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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 04 2014 23:39 GMT
#883
I'm really surprised you didn't let Jenny into the judge's chair, since I was read as scum by a number of people throughout the thread.

The inactivity sucked, it made the game much harder to read for me.

Completely agreed with the shout-out to the host. Thanks Amiko and co-hosts GlowingBear and Alakaslam! You guys were awesome. The flavor was awesome and I enjoyed the game! My first forum mafia game (and my second ever mafia game), and you guys made it awesome. Thanks again!
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 05 2014 00:22 GMT
#891
On September 05 2014 09:09 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 08:20 Superbia wrote:
Open for feedback on reads.


I can only give you feedback on your MYLO/LYLO play, since that's all I read of this game.

It feels like you got locked into a flawed scum-tell and let it influence the rest of your game too much.
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On September 05 2014 08:18 Superbia wrote:
...
The biggest scumread I had on Jenny was that she had to put a lot of content during d2 on why Gobbledydook was town n1, even though he was already confirmed. I had a couple of other things, but this is why I put my vote on Jenny in the end.


Like... this isn't a scumtell. Town or mafia can post this type of stuff. What would make this scummy is if someone posted a ton on Gobbeldydook to avoid making other contributions, but I didn't get that impression at all from Jenny's filter. Jenny contributed plenty of other stuff this game, and it feels like you locked into a post that you didn't like as opposed to a post that was actually scummy.


Thanks. I think this is exactly what I did not realize, and I think this is probably the mistake that cost me the game. Putting it in context (i.e. Jenny still contributed a lot during the same day) makes a lot of sense, and was something I did not do.

On September 05 2014 09:09 Hapahauli wrote:And you getting locked on Jenny's post made you overlook some of your other really good observations this game. For example:
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On September 01 2014 10:37 Superbia wrote:
Barakos' reluctance to push on lilwade last night, despite him promising to reads the most scummy right now. This is just something I remembered from last night though.

On August 31 2014 07:10 Superbia wrote:
What will you do if lilwade doesn't show up?



On August 31 2014 07:16 Barakos wrote:
go hard on him and mihzaaa. wade has been cut slack from everybody, especially jenny. This credit is used up, after tonight, i feel. Jenny is absolutely right. Going into mylo/lylo with blank-reads just wont work.
If we don't get consecutive mafia-lynches and it comes to a do-or-die, i want to be in it with people I have as many sources for reads as possible.
Also on daydreamarine... confirmed town or not. He has shown at some points, that he has the time to participate but just doesn't...
While marine still has to understand, that activity is key to bringing up thoughts about the game, the other two already should know better.



You had Barakos crucified with this post. This is a really good observation, and you should have been all aboard the "lynch Bakaros" train after posting this. But your confirmation bias with Jenny on N1/D2 made you not understand just how damning Barakos's behavior towards lilwade actually was.

I think some of this also has to do with you not understanding enough about mafia mentality. Mafia mentality is not going to manifest itself by posting about a confirmed town. Town or mafia can post about a confirmed town and be 100% honest about it.

Mafia mentality however will manifest itself when talking about something like a fellow scumbuddy. Knowing that they're suspicious and guilty deep down, yet it being against their objectives to lynch an ally (see Bakaros's attitude towards lilwade). Or fake-claiming knowing deep-down that their claim is false (see my post in the Obs QT about Barakos). That's the stuff that finds mafia, not stuff about confirmed townies.


Thanks for pointing this out as well. I guess I did not have my priorities straight when it comes to deciding what behaviour more scummy than others. The others' reluctance to push on lilwade at the same point in time made this seem a lot less scummy for some reason.


On another note, I would also like to thank iamperfection for guiding me through the dark and providing me with some excellent tips!
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 05 2014 00:30 GMT
#892
On September 05 2014 08:58 Breshke wrote:
GG everyone and unlucky superbia im glad it wasn't me who had to decide! I also want to thank the host and co-hosts i still had fun even with the mod kills.
Again sorry about all the sheeping!


Breshke I felt like you stepped up majorly during d2 compared to d1, you went from my top lynch for d2 to basically semi-confirmed town. I hope next time you're a bit more proactive during d1, but I would love to play with you again!
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 05 2014 00:48 GMT
#896
Can you guys explain that in detail? I felt that way at first but after Jenny posted about it I thought again and concluded that the worst case scenario is that we end up with a clash between 2 unconfirmeds and a 3rd confirmed town deciding. Best case scenario is that we get some more information from our roles.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 05 2014 02:37 GMT
#904
</3
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 05 2014 02:54 GMT
#906
I spent my entire afternoon reading through all of your, Barakos' and lilwade's posts a multitude of times. And I made a decision. It was wrong, I'm sorry. You did put a lot of effort and emotional into what you posted, but I had a gut-feeling that you were mafia. In retrospect I would've done thing differently. For what it's worth, Jenny, I would love to play with you again. Don't let my newbie-reads keep you from being awesome in mafia.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 05 2014 12:54 GMT
#913
I think that's a bit too easy to say, no? You're not going to improve by blaming a single person. Kinda disappointing, guys.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 05 2014 13:10 GMT
#916
On September 05 2014 22:04 Barakos wrote:
@superbia: I find your name pretty fitting and think you are pretty self-(over-)confident. Maybe, you should work on this a little bit... Had you been humble enough, to question your opinion on Jenny and me again, when we went into lylo, I think there is a high chance for you to win this game and become town-hero but you stuck to your opinion - in my opinion, because you were to proud to admit to yourself, that you might be wrong and because you didn't want to second-guess yourself. I could be totally wrong here, but that was my impression of you.
Nonetheless, I enjoyed playing vs. you. Chances are, I wouldn't like playing with you, but that's an other story.


Eh, I do put on a mask when playing mafia. I was never sure with my reads or anything, and especially the last decision I had to make was very hard. Even though it seemed very easy. I kept going back and forth between the two of you the entire time. There's a good reason I wanted the deadline to move forward. I second-guessed myself all the way, I just never show it. :p
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