conclusions I make from looking at mages' filter:

koc is probably town.

Batsnacks is probably town. Mages wanted to lynch batsnacks over haru really badly. I don't think you can conclude anything about Haru's alignment from that, but why would scum try to move a split vote onto another scum? I think If batsnacks was scum, he would want to lynch haru.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

August 14 2014 01:48 GMT

#1052

On August 14 2014 07:14 HaruRH wrote:

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Haru shoot 1v1*

But yeah I'm still curious, why 1v1? He had the biggest filter. Don't people like to say that whoever has the biggest filter d1 is auto-town?

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

August 14 2014 02:05 GMT

#1053

On August 14 2014 10:48 batsnacks wrote:

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But yeah I'm still curious, why 1v1? He had the biggest filter. Don't people like to say that whoever has the biggest filter d1 is auto-town?

Thats just a heuristic.
I had my worries abiut the damdred-mages interaction. However, I don't think it was a scum-scum interaction. So i wrote off damdred as town.
Kush is town.
Koshi maybe town.
Im town.
Rayn probably town.
Mm1 is town.

Therefore, I considered shooting in the pool of:
Bat/ve/kotc/sn0/onegu/1v1.

Out of these, bat/ve were lynchable. Not wasting bullets on them.
Kotc was townread by some.
So I was to shoot in sn0/onegu/1v1.

But I ranked it as 1v1 > sn0 > onegu in terms of who I wanna shoot more.
Onegu voted me at the end and didnt shift.
1v1/sn0 was the first 2 to jump on mages AFTER his concede. Could be a bus. So I had to decide who of these 2 to shoot, and I chose 1v1 because he feels the hardest to lynch of these 2.

That was my thought process.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

August 14 2014 02:30 GMT

#1054

On August 14 2014 11:05 HaruRH wrote:

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If you're town, everything you just said and can say about this game is a heuristic. Even after reading this post, I still don't feel like I understand why you picked 1v1. Did you realize you were targeting the person with the largest filter?

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

August 14 2014 02:40 GMT

#1055

On August 14 2014 11:30 batsnacks wrote:

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What does that even prove? Largest filter=town?

I can quote you many games where d1 most filter =/= town. Like my only scum loss.

batsnacks

United States4466 Posts

August 14 2014 02:42 GMT

#1056

On August 14 2014 11:40 HaruRH wrote:

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What does that even prove? Largest filter=town?

I can quote you many games where d1 most filter =/= town. Like my only scum loss.

Well, since you're offering, I will take a look at the many games you can quote where scum had the largest d1 filter.

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

August 14 2014 03:22 GMT

#1057

I cant really prove it since some people lose steam to post after d1, etc.
But my point still stands. I had the longest filter d1 for my scumgame and I am still scum.
It shows that scum could have done it too.
Btw go hunt for those games yourself

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 14 2014 04:14 GMT

#1058

batsnacks shut up aleady. Unless someone CC's Haru he shot 1v1 and is town. You're not helping atm.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

August 14 2014 04:14 GMT

#1059

I actually had Damdred as scummy based on how D1 went because he was early on the Mages wagon and then jumped off until LATE in the Mages wagon. So presumably mafia shot Damdred and Haru is claiming the shot on 1v1. I WAS town on 1v1, so his flip doesn't surprise me. The shot doesn't surprise me either honestly if it's town aligned. It wouldn't surprise me if it's mafia aligned either, I just think Haru claiming it makes it more townie. So if we think Haru is town then we assume mafia shot Damdred. That's pretty interesting to me because as I said I was scummy on Damdred. I think I'll start by looking at Damdred's filter and seeing what is there. It will be interesting to see who he finds suspicious and why, or why he might have been role-read.

I think rayn is town for now - he's doing that angry "I'm better than you and my opinions are the only ones that matter" thing and I associate that more with his townplay than his mafia play. For the record, that's not me paraphrasing any of his posts as I don't feel any of his posts even imply anything close - I'm just putting a phrase to the feeling I get from his play. I haven't filtered him, but I seem to recall agreeing with most of his posts? Anyway, he's I think he's town and he's still alive, so I think that's a good thing. He's a strong player.

I'm going to go on the record and say that I'm trash at reading Koshi - so that combined with the fact that he's been pushing a mafia read on me all game means that I'm seriously never going to be able to objectively read him. Barring like a cop check or something, I'm forever null on Koshi.

Everyone else I'm starting over on basically. That's where I'm at presently - filtering and deciding who the best lynch is today. My vote is on kushm4sta for claiming scum and conceding. Until he makes me think he's town, that's who I'm most interested in lynching today pending my rereads.