too much information. It looks like you put pressure on damdred because he defends an unflipped bats. Which doesn't make sense.

The word "protect" is so strange. It shows that you connect them.

Then that makes no sense why connect a scum and a town on day one if I have all the info? Also I dont see why the word "Protect" is strange. Its the same meaning as defend.

Onegu

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August 20 2014 08:34 GMT

#1702

On August 20 2014 17:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Onegu becomes active when he is under attack. He also busses.
He's also wrong, i am pretty bad at reading him. I have never ever found him scum on D1/D2. Or Onegu, do you mean the game where you endgamed me, yamato and Sn0? Did i find you scum there? Or the game where JAT shot you somewhere around D7? Did me and Koshi find you scum there? bullshit.

##vote: Onegu

Yes and yes. The game JaT shot me you had a scum read on me. And you were the person who had a scumread on me the game sn0 endgamed me. Jeez now I have to go back and pull out old games.

Onegu

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August 20 2014 08:39 GMT

#1704

Alright rayn I take it back you did have me as town in hogwarts.

Onegu

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August 20 2014 08:41 GMT

#1705

I could have swore there was a game you had me pegged as mafia like really early.

Onegu

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August 20 2014 09:45 GMT

#1722

On August 20 2014 17:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Onegu's case on me is "rayn did this then he did that - he is mafia". He does not even explain how does that make me mafia.

pure scumcase.

No my case on you is basicly PoE. With I gave reasons for voteing kush, you voted kush then asked what my reasons were.

Onegu

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August 20 2014 09:53 GMT

#1724

On August 18 2014 04:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Found mafia.
##vote: kushm4sta

He comes in with this.

I follow with a vote also on kush.

On August 18 2014 04:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Onegu why? From top of your head.

He follows with this. But if he had been reading I had already posted my reasons.

On August 18 2014 04:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah i don't also think anyone else can possibly be mafia this game.

Like there is maybe 0,1% possibility that i msis something but anyone else just doesn't make sense as scum.
ggnore, we win.

He then agrees with my reasons but adds nothing.

This and PoE are my reasons why Rayn is last scum.

Onegu

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August 20 2014 09:55 GMT

#1725

On August 20 2014 18:51 Koshi wrote:

Show nested quote +

So you are not planning to look at VE? You are not planning to do any work? Meta? Filters? Multiple quotes? Mafia mindset? Townmindset?

Kinda. Ill work on it. Like I will look into VE but I dont see how he can be lynched this day over rayn on chance he is medic.

Onegu

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August 20 2014 09:56 GMT

#1726

On August 19 2014 01:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If by some miracle kush flips town i will hammer myself tomorrow so that each and every one of you can feel so fucking bad.

Oh and this

Onegu

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August 20 2014 11:00 GMT

#1730

On August 20 2014 19:26 Koshi wrote:
rayn / Onegu show me why VE is not scum. Or is scum.
I need somebody to make something insanely pretty on VE.
I have another full day to think.
Proabably tomorrow I will use my time to reread VE games.

Ok I will look into VE tonight.

Onegu

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August 21 2014 06:18 GMT

#1950

Yeah Im not defending myself anymore, I bored what this game has turned into. Like yes VE thats me defending bats telling you there are more lurkers... Im not voteing for koshi. Its rayn or no one for me. Like yes I promised you Id look into VE koshi and I will, but he wont be the lynch today, it should be rayn as thats the only thing that makes sense to me at this point.

Onegu

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August 23 2014 02:01 GMT

#2074

On August 23 2014 07:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Haru it's really really simple. I'm the medic and the mafia tried to counterclaim me while he was on the block on D2. You're the vigilante and killed a townie on N1. Unfortunate, but fortunate for us NOW because you are confirmed town as a result. The mafia can ONLY be Onegu. It's the only thing that makes any sense in any world. Yes it's possible that I held a shot as mafia to try and confirm my fake medic claim, but then you have to ask..why would I fake medic claim after there's already one confirmed town alive and ANOTHER confirmed power role dead? The answer is: I wouldn't. I was under no threat of lynch, I claimed my REAL role in a fit of rage when Rayn wasn't listening to me. That was MY bad, but again, good for us now because it makes FAR more sense from a townie perspective than it does from a mafia perspective. If I'm mafia, why do I claim there? All it does is make me look EVEN MORE suspicious right? As a townie I don't give a shit about that kind of thing, but as a mafia that is ALL I care about, so I just don't do it man.

You HAVE to vote Onegu here. Do it for the good of the town.

Thats why your claim was safe. 2 PR had already been revealed. One extreamly powerful, in a vigi that becomes mod confirmed town after the shot, and a one shot cop isnt terrible. You decided the odds were good there would be no more PR and fakeclaimed. Then look at Bats counter claim timing. Its extreamly fishy looking back on it. He only did it after there was no saveing himself.

Then Koshi think about kills. He no shot the perfect night to set up his story, he was down 2 scummates in 2 days and had to make a play. The no shot makes him look really believeable and basicly gurentees he gets to lylo. Then Sn0 gets shot after screaming VE is scum, followed by Koshi who was 99% town on me. Why does scum onegu make those shots. He doesn't.

Then look how VE plays yesterday, first he finds a "scumslip" from me, but then sheeps rayn off of a "scumslipped" onegu? He then found a Koshi "scumslip" but sheeps rayn back on to me. Whats that tell you? He is scum and wanted lylo vs rayn. Nothing else makes sense.

##VOTE: VE

Onegu

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August 23 2014 11:36 GMT

#2084

On August 23 2014 15:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
BTW, this is what I consider to be soft confirmed, in case there's any kind of issue with my use of the term:

Thread Reasons
- I claimed medic on D2, mafia attempted to counterclaim me on the block
- N2, no night-kill occurred.
- Outside of confirmed mafia, no counterclaims

Setup Reasons
- 3 mafia, 1 unlimited roleblocker
- 1-shot cop, 1-shot vig

I'd expect the above setup to be played PROFESSIONALLY. As in, the above setup is REALLY HARD for town. First of all, the RB is allowed to hit EVERY NIGHT as compared with town's 1-shot powers. Second of all, in most normal games the power roles are ABOUT EQUAL to the mafia number. NOT Mafia power roles, MAFIA NUMBER. Because in essence, all mafia are a power role (because they have all the information), when balancing games the STANDARD is to keep town power roles and mafia number EQUAL. So you'd expect at least one more power role RIGHT OFF THE TOP, but then, you also would expect a power role that isn't as inhibited as the other confirmed power roles. A NON-RESTRICTED MEDIC, for instance.

For these reasons, I consider myself to be soft-confirmed town. And because Haru is hard-confirmed town, I absolutely don't fault you for taking a stab at disproving my claim Onegu. But the facts are right there.

1) after 2 PR had been seen.
2) after he was already dead. He was lynched like 1 hour before deadline when he CC the perfect time to wifom for you.
3) so what if there are no more CC.

Part 2
I would agree with you here except for the fact the vigi gets mod confirmed town after shot.

Onegu

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August 23 2014 11:36 GMT

#2085

Also why would I shoot Koshi?

Onegu

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August 23 2014 15:13 GMT

#2088

On August 23 2014 22:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
Obviously you can't kill Haru because I was rock-solid saving him last night.

This makes zero sense because If I was scum and you medic it wouldnt matter if I shot haru because its still mylo. But because you are scum you shot koshi.

Onegu

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August 24 2014 14:41 GMT

#2117

GG. I blame Mages, hope he guts permaban and never touches our site again. Somehow me and bats didnt believe VE's claim, and whats funny is if I was RB and bats goon and 2 goon flipped I think VE would have been much easier lynch. I shouldnt have shot last night or at least shot at haru, just didnt think haru would be so stubborn to just come in thread post "onegus scum see you at deadline"