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On August 12 2014 22:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 22:35 HaruRH wrote:On August 12 2014 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2014 01:48 Sn0_Man wrote:On August 12 2014 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sn0_Man could you also explain to me why you just said "it's more Koshi who is taking things out of proportion" but all of your post suggests otherwise. You don't like my points but Koshi has some sensible ideas.
How does that make sense? Koshi's push on the "avatar" bit see: On August 12 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 00:37 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 00:33 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 00:29 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 00:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am putting Mages to townpile aswell. By the way, it'd be more helpful if you also explained your reads while sharing them rather than just saying "X is town, Y is scum". I agree with rayn. It would be helpful if you could tell us why Mages his play is most likely coming from town. Why should rayn tell you the answers to the game? rayn is testing others if they pay attention. Why are you not paying attention? Spoilered because I am bored talking about this: + Show Spoiler +On August 12 2014 00:28 onevone wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 00:02 Damdred wrote:On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:2) MysteryMeat1 Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now. ##Vote MysteryMeat1On August 11 2014 11:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
His first post was all "Man I'm so bad and I can already tell you that you won't want to listen to anything I say"
Obviously I'm paraphrasing. But that's the feels I got reading his post. It made my ass twitch. Ok I think I might of played to many IML games and i'm putting to much on where votes are right now. However if you don't think its scummy why even put it in your post that lead up to a vote? Dunno, I had just finished writing about Mages and moved on to MM1. Both had downplayed themselves, but MM1 also talked about Avatar, so I guess I just put it in there. Yeah you are scum. There is no reason for you to bring up again that somebody talked about Avatar in the 5 first posts of the game when everybody at that time was talking about Avatar. It is completely null that when there are people talking about watching Avatar, there is another guy who chimes in and says "I also watch avatar". There is no fucking way that you can add him talking about Avatar to something else and come to the conclusion he is scum or scummy. It's you who isn't paying attention, since I explained my town lean on Mages in one of my first posts + I've repeatedly said that the sentence about Avatar wasn't a reason for him being scum. Stop lieing. Here are your reads: On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
So, here are my brief observations from the early posts (any topics I took the effort to write down):
1) Mages
Started the game by downplaying himself, which might be new/nervous town or scummy avoiding of attention. Continued to express his thoughts after that, which makes me lean town, especially since he wasn't just following the flow of the thread but rather tried to bring his own thoughts to the discussion. Especially as a new scum player it would be somewhat hard/risky to post like that.
2) MysteryMeat1
Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.
After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.
The bolded is for both people the same. They downplay their game. BUT, the green stuff makes Mages a townread for you. While the red stuff made MM1 a scumread for you. Clearly Avatar talk made MM1 more scummy to you. If you say that it never did, I am just calling scumhunting for this day and make sure you are lynched. Maybe you were an overzealous townie, maybe, but don't tell me you weren't scumreading MM1 partly because he talked about Avatar. Because you did. To me, its obvious here that what made MM1 1v1's vote candidate was his response to VE's pressure and the Kush/VE votes indicating that others agreed with him. Which really isn't a town mindset but is also not what Koshi was trying to push on him. Which is why I felt like you two weren't necessarily pushing on the right axis and it made it hard to read. Hence, On August 12 2014 00:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
I don't read that post the same way koshi I do think attacking same easy targets other people attack is scummy. I mean, townies do that aswell. But the whole construction of the post does not say anything - all it does is it gives onevone all sorts of outs to back off from his reads later on. I had a feeling you were referring to batsnacks when you said this btw, on how he is just repeatedly attacking kotc when everyone have already pointed that shit out. Okay Haru is mafia because this does not make any sense at all. Noone is stupid enough to not see i am talking about - and ONLY about - 1v1 here. No chance.
He just changed his story.
meh, I am not a fan of HaruRh but less a fan of batsnacks.
In some Universe I can see HaruRH being town and playing exactly like this.
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On August 12 2014 22:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 22:35 HaruRH wrote:On August 12 2014 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2014 01:48 Sn0_Man wrote:On August 12 2014 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sn0_Man could you also explain to me why you just said "it's more Koshi who is taking things out of proportion" but all of your post suggests otherwise. You don't like my points but Koshi has some sensible ideas.
How does that make sense? Koshi's push on the "avatar" bit see: On August 12 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 00:37 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 00:33 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 00:29 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 00:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am putting Mages to townpile aswell. By the way, it'd be more helpful if you also explained your reads while sharing them rather than just saying "X is town, Y is scum". I agree with rayn. It would be helpful if you could tell us why Mages his play is most likely coming from town. Why should rayn tell you the answers to the game? rayn is testing others if they pay attention. Why are you not paying attention? Spoilered because I am bored talking about this: + Show Spoiler +On August 12 2014 00:28 onevone wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 00:02 Damdred wrote:On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:2) MysteryMeat1 Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now. ##Vote MysteryMeat1On August 11 2014 11:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
His first post was all "Man I'm so bad and I can already tell you that you won't want to listen to anything I say"
Obviously I'm paraphrasing. But that's the feels I got reading his post. It made my ass twitch. Ok I think I might of played to many IML games and i'm putting to much on where votes are right now. However if you don't think its scummy why even put it in your post that lead up to a vote? Dunno, I had just finished writing about Mages and moved on to MM1. Both had downplayed themselves, but MM1 also talked about Avatar, so I guess I just put it in there. Yeah you are scum. There is no reason for you to bring up again that somebody talked about Avatar in the 5 first posts of the game when everybody at that time was talking about Avatar. It is completely null that when there are people talking about watching Avatar, there is another guy who chimes in and says "I also watch avatar". There is no fucking way that you can add him talking about Avatar to something else and come to the conclusion he is scum or scummy. It's you who isn't paying attention, since I explained my town lean on Mages in one of my first posts + I've repeatedly said that the sentence about Avatar wasn't a reason for him being scum. Stop lieing. Here are your reads: On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
So, here are my brief observations from the early posts (any topics I took the effort to write down):
1) Mages
Started the game by downplaying himself, which might be new/nervous town or scummy avoiding of attention. Continued to express his thoughts after that, which makes me lean town, especially since he wasn't just following the flow of the thread but rather tried to bring his own thoughts to the discussion. Especially as a new scum player it would be somewhat hard/risky to post like that.
2) MysteryMeat1
Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.
After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.
The bolded is for both people the same. They downplay their game. BUT, the green stuff makes Mages a townread for you. While the red stuff made MM1 a scumread for you. Clearly Avatar talk made MM1 more scummy to you. If you say that it never did, I am just calling scumhunting for this day and make sure you are lynched. Maybe you were an overzealous townie, maybe, but don't tell me you weren't scumreading MM1 partly because he talked about Avatar. Because you did. To me, its obvious here that what made MM1 1v1's vote candidate was his response to VE's pressure and the Kush/VE votes indicating that others agreed with him. Which really isn't a town mindset but is also not what Koshi was trying to push on him. Which is why I felt like you two weren't necessarily pushing on the right axis and it made it hard to read. Hence, On August 12 2014 00:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
I don't read that post the same way koshi I do think attacking same easy targets other people attack is scummy. I mean, townies do that aswell. But the whole construction of the post does not say anything - all it does is it gives onevone all sorts of outs to back off from his reads later on. I had a feeling you were referring to batsnacks when you said this btw, on how he is just repeatedly attacking kotc when everyone have already pointed that shit out. Okay Haru is mafia because this does not make any sense at all. Noone is stupid enough to not see i am talking about - and ONLY about - 1v1 here. No chance.
Read my new list post.
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Haru: I'm not quite sure how VE is being inconsistent? He's been pretty consistently pushing MM1.
And I think my reads have evolved quite a bit so I'd hardly call them "rehearsed".
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BRB give me 20 minutes to redo my drawing, I think I might have confused myself here.
On August 12 2014 22:45 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 22:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2014 22:35 HaruRH wrote:On August 12 2014 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2014 01:48 Sn0_Man wrote:On August 12 2014 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sn0_Man could you also explain to me why you just said "it's more Koshi who is taking things out of proportion" but all of your post suggests otherwise. You don't like my points but Koshi has some sensible ideas.
How does that make sense? Koshi's push on the "avatar" bit see: On August 12 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 00:37 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 00:33 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 00:29 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 00:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am putting Mages to townpile aswell. By the way, it'd be more helpful if you also explained your reads while sharing them rather than just saying "X is town, Y is scum". I agree with rayn. It would be helpful if you could tell us why Mages his play is most likely coming from town. Why should rayn tell you the answers to the game? rayn is testing others if they pay attention. Why are you not paying attention? Spoilered because I am bored talking about this: + Show Spoiler +On August 12 2014 00:28 onevone wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 00:02 Damdred wrote:On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:2) MysteryMeat1 Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now. ##Vote MysteryMeat1On August 11 2014 11:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
His first post was all "Man I'm so bad and I can already tell you that you won't want to listen to anything I say"
Obviously I'm paraphrasing. But that's the feels I got reading his post. It made my ass twitch. Ok I think I might of played to many IML games and i'm putting to much on where votes are right now. However if you don't think its scummy why even put it in your post that lead up to a vote? Dunno, I had just finished writing about Mages and moved on to MM1. Both had downplayed themselves, but MM1 also talked about Avatar, so I guess I just put it in there. Yeah you are scum. There is no reason for you to bring up again that somebody talked about Avatar in the 5 first posts of the game when everybody at that time was talking about Avatar. It is completely null that when there are people talking about watching Avatar, there is another guy who chimes in and says "I also watch avatar". There is no fucking way that you can add him talking about Avatar to something else and come to the conclusion he is scum or scummy. It's you who isn't paying attention, since I explained my town lean on Mages in one of my first posts + I've repeatedly said that the sentence about Avatar wasn't a reason for him being scum. Stop lieing. Here are your reads: On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
So, here are my brief observations from the early posts (any topics I took the effort to write down):
1) Mages
Started the game by downplaying himself, which might be new/nervous town or scummy avoiding of attention. Continued to express his thoughts after that, which makes me lean town, especially since he wasn't just following the flow of the thread but rather tried to bring his own thoughts to the discussion. Especially as a new scum player it would be somewhat hard/risky to post like that.
2) MysteryMeat1
Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.
After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.
The bolded is for both people the same. They downplay their game. BUT, the green stuff makes Mages a townread for you. While the red stuff made MM1 a scumread for you. Clearly Avatar talk made MM1 more scummy to you. If you say that it never did, I am just calling scumhunting for this day and make sure you are lynched. Maybe you were an overzealous townie, maybe, but don't tell me you weren't scumreading MM1 partly because he talked about Avatar. Because you did. To me, its obvious here that what made MM1 1v1's vote candidate was his response to VE's pressure and the Kush/VE votes indicating that others agreed with him. Which really isn't a town mindset but is also not what Koshi was trying to push on him. Which is why I felt like you two weren't necessarily pushing on the right axis and it made it hard to read. Hence, On August 12 2014 00:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
I don't read that post the same way koshi I do think attacking same easy targets other people attack is scummy. I mean, townies do that aswell. But the whole construction of the post does not say anything - all it does is it gives onevone all sorts of outs to back off from his reads later on. I had a feeling you were referring to batsnacks when you said this btw, on how he is just repeatedly attacking kotc when everyone have already pointed that shit out. Okay Haru is mafia because this does not make any sense at all. Noone is stupid enough to not see i am talking about - and ONLY about - 1v1 here. No chance. He just changed his story. meh, I am not a fan of HaruRh but less a fan of batsnacks. In some Universe I can see HaruRH being town and playing exactly like this.
In the universe where Haru actually wants to play d1 and not be a lynch target for ALL GAMES because he cant give reads d1
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On August 12 2014 22:48 HaruRH wrote:BRB give me 20 minutes to redo my drawing, I think I might have confused myself here. Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 22:45 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 22:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2014 22:35 HaruRH wrote:On August 12 2014 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2014 01:48 Sn0_Man wrote:On August 12 2014 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sn0_Man could you also explain to me why you just said "it's more Koshi who is taking things out of proportion" but all of your post suggests otherwise. You don't like my points but Koshi has some sensible ideas.
How does that make sense? Koshi's push on the "avatar" bit see: On August 12 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 00:37 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 00:33 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 00:29 onevone wrote:
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By the way, it'd be more helpful if you also explained your reads while sharing them rather than just saying "X is town, Y is scum". I agree with rayn. It would be helpful if you could tell us why Mages his play is most likely coming from town. Why should rayn tell you the answers to the game? rayn is testing others if they pay attention. Why are you not paying attention? Spoilered because I am bored talking about this: + Show Spoiler +On August 12 2014 00:28 onevone wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 00:02 Damdred wrote:On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:2) MysteryMeat1 Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now. ##Vote MysteryMeat1On August 11 2014 11:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
His first post was all "Man I'm so bad and I can already tell you that you won't want to listen to anything I say"
Obviously I'm paraphrasing. But that's the feels I got reading his post. It made my ass twitch. Ok I think I might of played to many IML games and i'm putting to much on where votes are right now. However if you don't think its scummy why even put it in your post that lead up to a vote? Dunno, I had just finished writing about Mages and moved on to MM1. Both had downplayed themselves, but MM1 also talked about Avatar, so I guess I just put it in there. Yeah you are scum. There is no reason for you to bring up again that somebody talked about Avatar in the 5 first posts of the game when everybody at that time was talking about Avatar. It is completely null that when there are people talking about watching Avatar, there is another guy who chimes in and says "I also watch avatar". There is no fucking way that you can add him talking about Avatar to something else and come to the conclusion he is scum or scummy. It's you who isn't paying attention, since I explained my town lean on Mages in one of my first posts + I've repeatedly said that the sentence about Avatar wasn't a reason for him being scum. Stop lieing. Here are your reads: On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
So, here are my brief observations from the early posts (any topics I took the effort to write down):
1) Mages
Started the game by downplaying himself, which might be new/nervous town or scummy avoiding of attention. Continued to express his thoughts after that, which makes me lean town, especially since he wasn't just following the flow of the thread but rather tried to bring his own thoughts to the discussion. Especially as a new scum player it would be somewhat hard/risky to post like that.
2) MysteryMeat1
Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.
After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.
The bolded is for both people the same. They downplay their game. BUT, the green stuff makes Mages a townread for you. While the red stuff made MM1 a scumread for you. Clearly Avatar talk made MM1 more scummy to you. If you say that it never did, I am just calling scumhunting for this day and make sure you are lynched. Maybe you were an overzealous townie, maybe, but don't tell me you weren't scumreading MM1 partly because he talked about Avatar. Because you did. To me, its obvious here that what made MM1 1v1's vote candidate was his response to VE's pressure and the Kush/VE votes indicating that others agreed with him. Which really isn't a town mindset but is also not what Koshi was trying to push on him. Which is why I felt like you two weren't necessarily pushing on the right axis and it made it hard to read. Hence, On August 12 2014 00:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
I don't read that post the same way koshi I do think attacking same easy targets other people attack is scummy. I mean, townies do that aswell. But the whole construction of the post does not say anything - all it does is it gives onevone all sorts of outs to back off from his reads later on. I had a feeling you were referring to batsnacks when you said this btw, on how he is just repeatedly attacking kotc when everyone have already pointed that shit out. Okay Haru is mafia because this does not make any sense at all. Noone is stupid enough to not see i am talking about - and ONLY about - 1v1 here. No chance. He just changed his story. meh, I am not a fan of HaruRh but less a fan of batsnacks. In some Universe I can see HaruRH being town and playing exactly like this. In the universe where Haru actually wants to play d1 and not be a lynch target for ALL GAMES because he cant give reads d1
hmm? Aren't you the guy saying that he is unlynchable after D1 because you always look insanely town?
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On August 12 2014 22:50 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 22:48 HaruRH wrote:BRB give me 20 minutes to redo my drawing, I think I might have confused myself here. On August 12 2014 22:45 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 22:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2014 22:35 HaruRH wrote:On August 12 2014 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2014 01:48 Sn0_Man wrote:On August 12 2014 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sn0_Man could you also explain to me why you just said "it's more Koshi who is taking things out of proportion" but all of your post suggests otherwise. You don't like my points but Koshi has some sensible ideas.
How does that make sense? Koshi's push on the "avatar" bit see: On August 12 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 00:37 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 00:33 Koshi wrote:[quote] I agree with rayn. It would be helpful if you could tell us why Mages his play is most likely coming from town. Why should rayn tell you the answers to the game? rayn is testing others if they pay attention. Why are you not paying attention? Spoilered because I am bored talking about this: + Show Spoiler +On August 12 2014 00:28 onevone wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 00:02 Damdred wrote:On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:2) MysteryMeat1 Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now. ##Vote MysteryMeat1On August 11 2014 11:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
His first post was all "Man I'm so bad and I can already tell you that you won't want to listen to anything I say"
Obviously I'm paraphrasing. But that's the feels I got reading his post. It made my ass twitch. Ok I think I might of played to many IML games and i'm putting to much on where votes are right now. However if you don't think its scummy why even put it in your post that lead up to a vote? Dunno, I had just finished writing about Mages and moved on to MM1. Both had downplayed themselves, but MM1 also talked about Avatar, so I guess I just put it in there. Yeah you are scum. There is no reason for you to bring up again that somebody talked about Avatar in the 5 first posts of the game when everybody at that time was talking about Avatar. It is completely null that when there are people talking about watching Avatar, there is another guy who chimes in and says "I also watch avatar". There is no fucking way that you can add him talking about Avatar to something else and come to the conclusion he is scum or scummy. It's you who isn't paying attention, since I explained my town lean on Mages in one of my first posts + I've repeatedly said that the sentence about Avatar wasn't a reason for him being scum. Stop lieing. Here are your reads: On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
So, here are my brief observations from the early posts (any topics I took the effort to write down):
1) Mages
Started the game by downplaying himself, which might be new/nervous town or scummy avoiding of attention. Continued to express his thoughts after that, which makes me lean town, especially since he wasn't just following the flow of the thread but rather tried to bring his own thoughts to the discussion. Especially as a new scum player it would be somewhat hard/risky to post like that.
2) MysteryMeat1
Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.
After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.
The bolded is for both people the same. They downplay their game. BUT, the green stuff makes Mages a townread for you. While the red stuff made MM1 a scumread for you. Clearly Avatar talk made MM1 more scummy to you. If you say that it never did, I am just calling scumhunting for this day and make sure you are lynched. Maybe you were an overzealous townie, maybe, but don't tell me you weren't scumreading MM1 partly because he talked about Avatar. Because you did. To me, its obvious here that what made MM1 1v1's vote candidate was his response to VE's pressure and the Kush/VE votes indicating that others agreed with him. Which really isn't a town mindset but is also not what Koshi was trying to push on him. Which is why I felt like you two weren't necessarily pushing on the right axis and it made it hard to read. Hence, On August 12 2014 00:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
I don't read that post the same way koshi I do think attacking same easy targets other people attack is scummy. I mean, townies do that aswell. But the whole construction of the post does not say anything - all it does is it gives onevone all sorts of outs to back off from his reads later on. I had a feeling you were referring to batsnacks when you said this btw, on how he is just repeatedly attacking kotc when everyone have already pointed that shit out. Okay Haru is mafia because this does not make any sense at all. Noone is stupid enough to not see i am talking about - and ONLY about - 1v1 here. No chance. He just changed his story. meh, I am not a fan of HaruRh but less a fan of batsnacks. In some Universe I can see HaruRH being town and playing exactly like this. In the universe where Haru actually wants to play d1 and not be a lynch target for ALL GAMES because he cant give reads d1 hmm? Aren't you the guy saying that he is unlynchable after D1 because you always look insanely town?
Who?
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On August 12 2014 22:50 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 22:50 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 22:48 HaruRH wrote:BRB give me 20 minutes to redo my drawing, I think I might have confused myself here. On August 12 2014 22:45 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 22:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2014 22:35 HaruRH wrote:On August 12 2014 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2014 01:48 Sn0_Man wrote:On August 12 2014 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sn0_Man could you also explain to me why you just said "it's more Koshi who is taking things out of proportion" but all of your post suggests otherwise. You don't like my points but Koshi has some sensible ideas.
How does that make sense? Koshi's push on the "avatar" bit see: On August 12 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 00:37 onevone wrote:
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It's you who isn't paying attention, since I explained my town lean on Mages in one of my first posts + I've repeatedly said that the sentence about Avatar wasn't a reason for him being scum. Stop lieing. Here are your reads: On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
So, here are my brief observations from the early posts (any topics I took the effort to write down):
1) Mages
Started the game by downplaying himself, which might be new/nervous town or scummy avoiding of attention. Continued to express his thoughts after that, which makes me lean town, especially since he wasn't just following the flow of the thread but rather tried to bring his own thoughts to the discussion. Especially as a new scum player it would be somewhat hard/risky to post like that.
2) MysteryMeat1
Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.
After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.
The bolded is for both people the same. They downplay their game. BUT, the green stuff makes Mages a townread for you. While the red stuff made MM1 a scumread for you. Clearly Avatar talk made MM1 more scummy to you. If you say that it never did, I am just calling scumhunting for this day and make sure you are lynched. Maybe you were an overzealous townie, maybe, but don't tell me you weren't scumreading MM1 partly because he talked about Avatar. Because you did. To me, its obvious here that what made MM1 1v1's vote candidate was his response to VE's pressure and the Kush/VE votes indicating that others agreed with him. Which really isn't a town mindset but is also not what Koshi was trying to push on him. Which is why I felt like you two weren't necessarily pushing on the right axis and it made it hard to read. Hence, On August 12 2014 00:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
I don't read that post the same way koshi I do think attacking same easy targets other people attack is scummy. I mean, townies do that aswell. But the whole construction of the post does not say anything - all it does is it gives onevone all sorts of outs to back off from his reads later on. I had a feeling you were referring to batsnacks when you said this btw, on how he is just repeatedly attacking kotc when everyone have already pointed that shit out. Okay Haru is mafia because this does not make any sense at all. Noone is stupid enough to not see i am talking about - and ONLY about - 1v1 here. No chance. He just changed his story. meh, I am not a fan of HaruRh but less a fan of batsnacks. In some Universe I can see HaruRH being town and playing exactly like this. In the universe where Haru actually wants to play d1 and not be a lynch target for ALL GAMES because he cant give reads d1 hmm? Aren't you the guy saying that he is unlynchable after D1 because you always look insanely town? Who?
On July 28 2014 02:02 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2014 02:00 justanothertownie wrote:On July 28 2014 01:56 HaruRH wrote:
BTW,:
"I kinda knew I was going to get shot when I accidentally end up in so many people's townlist. My d1 play usually revolves around me being in half of people's scumlist and half in town to secure my safety in n1.
Also, my 100% townread of teemu comes from the fact that when teemu and I were scum, he told me that he how he soft copclaims (working in a police office lul) so I would presume he is trying to tell me that he is the same alignment as me this game, as this crap won't work if he is scum and I am town last game. "
To answer vivax's question too. You should always aim to be townread. If you take a bullet that is great (ok, if you are blue not THAT great but still...). Don't act scummy on purpose as town. It's just how I choose to play  It's because I don't have limits when I try to gain towncreds, 99.999% of the time ill end up in everyone's town list and die n1 (like marv/plammar). So I chose to try and survive till d2 since my d2 is arguably my best part of the game.
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On August 12 2014 22:55 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 22:50 HaruRH wrote:On August 12 2014 22:50 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 22:48 HaruRH wrote:BRB give me 20 minutes to redo my drawing, I think I might have confused myself here. On August 12 2014 22:45 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 22:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2014 22:35 HaruRH wrote:On August 12 2014 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2014 01:48 Sn0_Man wrote:On August 12 2014 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sn0_Man could you also explain to me why you just said "it's more Koshi who is taking things out of proportion" but all of your post suggests otherwise. You don't like my points but Koshi has some sensible ideas.
How does that make sense? Koshi's push on the "avatar" bit see: On August 12 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote:
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Stop lieing.
Here are your reads:
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The bolded is for both people the same. They downplay their game.
BUT, the green stuff makes Mages a townread for you. While the red stuff made MM1 a scumread for you.
Clearly Avatar talk made MM1 more scummy to you. If you say that it never did, I am just calling scumhunting for this day and make sure you are lynched. Maybe you were an overzealous townie, maybe, but don't tell me you weren't scumreading MM1 partly because he talked about Avatar. Because you did. To me, its obvious here that what made MM1 1v1's vote candidate was his response to VE's pressure and the Kush/VE votes indicating that others agreed with him. Which really isn't a town mindset but is also not what Koshi was trying to push on him. Which is why I felt like you two weren't necessarily pushing on the right axis and it made it hard to read. Hence, On August 12 2014 00:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
I don't read that post the same way koshi I do think attacking same easy targets other people attack is scummy. I mean, townies do that aswell. But the whole construction of the post does not say anything - all it does is it gives onevone all sorts of outs to back off from his reads later on. I had a feeling you were referring to batsnacks when you said this btw, on how he is just repeatedly attacking kotc when everyone have already pointed that shit out. Okay Haru is mafia because this does not make any sense at all. Noone is stupid enough to not see i am talking about - and ONLY about - 1v1 here. No chance. He just changed his story. meh, I am not a fan of HaruRh but less a fan of batsnacks. In some Universe I can see HaruRH being town and playing exactly like this. In the universe where Haru actually wants to play d1 and not be a lynch target for ALL GAMES because he cant give reads d1 hmm? Aren't you the guy saying that he is unlynchable after D1 because you always look insanely town? Who? Show nested quote +On July 28 2014 02:02 HaruRH wrote:On July 28 2014 02:00 justanothertownie wrote:On July 28 2014 01:56 HaruRH wrote:
BTW,:
"I kinda knew I was going to get shot when I accidentally end up in so many people's townlist. My d1 play usually revolves around me being in half of people's scumlist and half in town to secure my safety in n1.
Also, my 100% townread of teemu comes from the fact that when teemu and I were scum, he told me that he how he soft copclaims (working in a police office lul) so I would presume he is trying to tell me that he is the same alignment as me this game, as this crap won't work if he is scum and I am town last game. "
To answer vivax's question too. You should always aim to be townread. If you take a bullet that is great (ok, if you are blue not THAT great but still...). Don't act scummy on purpose as town. It's just how I choose to play It's because I don't have limits when I try to gain towncreds, 99.999% of the time ill end up in everyone's town list and die n1 (like marv/plammar). So I chose to try and survive till d2 since my d2 is arguably my best part of the game.
Yea, and my name appears in all votelists in games I play for d1 btw.
I still stand by my view that my d2 is my favourite part of the game, where I start figuring things out
BUT NOT D1 GOD DAMMIT
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rayn i'm interested in why you think haru is scum, because i don't quite get your case and haru looking pretty town to me
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On August 12 2014 22:57 kushm4sta wrote:
rayn i'm interested in why you think haru is scum, because i don't quite get your case and haru looking pretty town to me
I'm interested to know why too. Is he going to point out some arguments that I already said I had written wrongly, or present something I can actually fight against?
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On August 12 2014 22:56 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 22:55 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 22:50 HaruRH wrote:On August 12 2014 22:50 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 22:48 HaruRH wrote:BRB give me 20 minutes to redo my drawing, I think I might have confused myself here. On August 12 2014 22:45 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 22:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2014 22:35 HaruRH wrote:On August 12 2014 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2014 01:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
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Koshi's push on the "avatar" bit see:
[quote] To me, its obvious here that what made MM1 1v1's vote candidate was his response to VE's pressure and the Kush/VE votes indicating that others agreed with him. Which really isn't a town mindset but is also not what Koshi was trying to push on him. Which is why I felt like you two weren't necessarily pushing on the right axis and it made it hard to read.
Hence,
[quote] I do think attacking same easy targets other people attack is scummy. I mean, townies do that aswell. But the whole construction of the post does not say anything - all it does is it gives onevone all sorts of outs to back off from his reads later on. I had a feeling you were referring to batsnacks when you said this btw, on how he is just repeatedly attacking kotc when everyone have already pointed that shit out. Okay Haru is mafia because this does not make any sense at all. Noone is stupid enough to not see i am talking about - and ONLY about - 1v1 here. No chance. He just changed his story. meh, I am not a fan of HaruRh but less a fan of batsnacks. In some Universe I can see HaruRH being town and playing exactly like this. In the universe where Haru actually wants to play d1 and not be a lynch target for ALL GAMES because he cant give reads d1 hmm? Aren't you the guy saying that he is unlynchable after D1 because you always look insanely town? Who? On July 28 2014 02:02 HaruRH wrote:On July 28 2014 02:00 justanothertownie wrote:On July 28 2014 01:56 HaruRH wrote:
BTW,:
"I kinda knew I was going to get shot when I accidentally end up in so many people's townlist. My d1 play usually revolves around me being in half of people's scumlist and half in town to secure my safety in n1.
Also, my 100% townread of teemu comes from the fact that when teemu and I were scum, he told me that he how he soft copclaims (working in a police office lul) so I would presume he is trying to tell me that he is the same alignment as me this game, as this crap won't work if he is scum and I am town last game. "
To answer vivax's question too. You should always aim to be townread. If you take a bullet that is great (ok, if you are blue not THAT great but still...). Don't act scummy on purpose as town. It's just how I choose to play It's because I don't have limits when I try to gain towncreds, 99.999% of the time ill end up in everyone's town list and die n1 (like marv/plammar). So I chose to try and survive till d2 since my d2 is arguably my best part of the game. Yea, and my name appears in all votelists in games I play for d1 btw. I still stand by my view that my d2 is my favourite part of the game, where I start figuring things out BUT NOT D1 GOD DAMMIT
No worries. You shall be spared D1.
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On August 12 2014 22:57 kushm4sta wrote:
rayn i'm interested in why you think haru is scum, because i don't quite get your case and haru looking pretty town to me
He doesn't make any sense. Trust me on this.
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Meanwhile, ill just throw my vote with 1v1.
##Unvote
##Vote: Onevone
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On August 12 2014 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 22:57 kushm4sta wrote:
rayn i'm interested in why you think haru is scum, because i don't quite get your case and haru looking pretty town to me He doesn't make any sense. Trust me on this.
Show me a game where I made sense d1 and youre allowed to lynch me right here right now.
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On August 12 2014 23:13 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2014 22:57 kushm4sta wrote:
rayn i'm interested in why you think haru is scum, because i don't quite get your case and haru looking pretty town to me He doesn't make any sense. Trust me on this. Show me a game where I made sense d1 and youre allowed to lynch me right here right now.
Wow this sentance is scummy as hell. Im always worthless so suck it. This is just terribad
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On August 12 2014 23:13 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2014 22:57 kushm4sta wrote:
rayn i'm interested in why you think haru is scum, because i don't quite get your case and haru looking pretty town to me He doesn't make any sense. Trust me on this. Show me a game where I made sense d1 and youre allowed to lynch me right here right now.
You made sense in the game where i was mafia. The game where bats shot me because he didn't like me.
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You are INCONSISTENT! Making sense to all people is another thing (i know because i never make sense to anyone) but you CANNOT POSSIBLY MAKE SENSE FROM TOWN PERSPECTIVE. It is impossible.
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Haru?
On August 12 2014 22:47 onevone wrote:
Haru: I'm not quite sure how VE is being inconsistent? He's been pretty consistently pushing MM1.
And I think my reads have evolved quite a bit so I'd hardly call them "rehearsed".
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You make sense to me rayn <3
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On August 12 2014 23:13 HaruRH wrote:
Meanwhile, ill just throw my vote with 1v1.
##Unvote
##Vote: Onevone
It's majority lynch. Are you planning to convince 6 other to vote with you?
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