[T] Cell (Mini?) Mafia III

On August 08 2014 23:20 Not Holyflare wrote:
/in

On August 11 2014 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Bad read. I don't smurf because i literally couldn't after my first post.

On August 28 2014 10:21 Holyflare wrote:
Well it's not in op so it's not :o

On August 28 2014 10:39 Holyflare wrote:
Or that variant where we vote for the next group each night. That would have been cool

On August 29 2014 00:23 Professor Apathy wrote:
how about we fulfill my lifelong dream of being a mayor and crushing you in an election? I'm only smurfing for the new guys and HF and WoS are Bros who aren't straight about it.

On August 29 2014 07:41 marvellosity wrote:
wave if you're not capable of distinguishing between what i'm saying now and what i said earlier, then i have literally nothing to say to you

On August 29 2014 07:47 marvellosity wrote:
BH/HF/your mum/Amiko/lilwade best guess so far.

just so people can quiz me in a really annoying fashion later if/when i change my mind.

On August 29 2014 07:41 marvellosity wrote:
wave if you're not capable of distinguishing between what i'm saying now and what i said earlier, then i have literally nothing to say to you

On August 29 2014 11:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Batsnacks is scum.
His initial campaign push felt extremely fake and forced and he spends pretty much 1 page talking about the same thing over and over.
He doesn't care about finding scum and instead, spends his time talking about whether it's marv or marv and other pointless things. Distracting people.
There is literally nothing that he says about actually winning the game.
Wrong ppriorities, fluff, wrong focus =scum.
##vote: batsnacks

On August 29 2014 12:54 Amiko wrote:


You seem mopey and not too engaged from your posts. Like, you seemed to feel the mayor phase was really tiresome and didn't seem to engage (ex: although you were asking people to vote for you I don't think you ever really discussed ordering even jokingly?) despite posting a couple times through the phase.
I didn't really intend to use your mood for a read though, I just felt like you wanted to play but didn't feel into it so I wanted to see what you thought on some of the D1 and you had already commented a little on BH/ritoky but nothing on snacks. Since I have no particular read on batsnacks yet I was curious.

On August 29 2014 13:18 Amiko wrote:
Oh that's simple-
Four people voted on BH - (1) batsnacks, (2) apathy, (3) marv, (4) you.

I don't feel I'll get too much from talking to (1) batsnacks (given that his rationale was VOTE BH GAME EZ).
I questioned (2) apathy & (3) marv because I don't feel their rationale makes sense (I don't see how they see batsnacks as misguided)
I asked (4) you about your rationale because you actually discussed ritoky and BH a little in your post, so I wanted to know your thoughts since you indicated you had decided between the three and hadn't given an explanation of a player I can't read yet (batsnacks).

On August 29 2014 13:25 Holyflare wrote:
Also i read mm1's games and marv saying it's ANYTHING like this game is super terrible and suspicious. They are incomparable.

On August 29 2014 13:36 Holyflare wrote:
Because it's wildly different from every town game???



For that to have any basis it means marv should have at least read mm1's games otherwise it's just a useless pile of poop. If you've read mm1's games you know it's not really the same at all

On August 29 2014 13:46 Holyflare wrote:
Also amiko i think my analogy sums up batsnacks quite well. He's misguided because he wants to do his awful rng thing and is being cryptic and "you don't know what I'm doing!" but appears townlike because it looks like he believes all thw useless things he is doing are correct

On August 29 2014 13:52 Holyflare wrote:
It's pretty annoying when you know that one of bs/bh is town but then they refuse to post any content

On August 29 2014 14:01 Oatsmaster wrote:

its so terrible you cant specify why its terrible or any reasons at all why BH should die. Typical wos.

On August 29 2014 14:08 Holyflare wrote:
Being mislynchable for his play in other games is fucking irrelevant. You asked for his games and then tell me you haven't read any of them???? You can literally look at the first 5 posts FROM EVERY SINGLE ONE of his town games and see actual content.

On August 29 2014 14:13 Holyflare wrote:
Also the fact you don't know what batsnacks is doing and his cell is first and he literally afk voted bh with no explanation but you still seem to think he's town isn't misguided? Do you think his plan was to look like a twat so people would town read him? If your answer is no then he is misguided.

On August 29 2014 14:17 Holyflare wrote:
It's not terrible. Regardless of if meta is terrible when a person goes from posting ACTUAL CONTENT every game as town to posting absolutely nothing relevant in the slightest in this game then alarm bells should be going off. I don't care if you want to lynch him for doing nothing and if that's your reason later then w/e but the fact is 2 people have used meta to DEFEND mm1 (amiko/marv) when the meta is NOTHING alike. Is that not intriguing?

On August 29 2014 14:22 Holyflare wrote:
I don't even know how you can say "i don't know what on earth my town read is doing but he's town" but then not say he's misguided that's just silly.

On August 29 2014 14:25 Holyflare wrote:
If you think my comment about you being mafia was anything but a joke earlier you crazy mofo. Amiko defending wasn't the same as marv's because he was just pointing it out as a devil's advocate kind of thing. Marv used it to drive suspicion onto me without seemingly reading the games (although later took it back).

On August 29 2014 14:29 Holyflare wrote:


"you have no idea what I'm doing! "

Super ultra secret batsnacks plan that only he knows about which will apparently help us win somehow if he's town which hasn't come into fruition at all. Seems like a naive action that is a misguided attempt to help the town to me.

On August 29 2014 14:32 Holyflare wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

If that doesn't look like jest to you i have no idea what does. Also you say that i call you mafia but earlier you say you didn't even properly read that bit at all?? Are you now saying you've reread the thread?

On August 28 2014 10:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
OH LOL NOW I SEE WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT
Plz HF
You're trying to trap me again?
Even when I was scum that shit didn't work.
Role PM says 'Town'

EVERYBODY WHEN HF TRIES TO TRAP YOU, JUST TELL HIM THE ROLE PM SAYS TOWN

On August 29 2014 14:33 Holyflare wrote:


And who uses bull shit.....?

Mafia and misguided townies

On August 29 2014 14:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Therefore he has fun with it and is nowhere serious about getting votes.
How can you even call that a push to be mayor Wave?

On August 29 2014 14:39 Holyflare wrote:
But if you read the thread you already know what i think wave??

On August 29 2014 14:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yes you did wave dont lie.

On August 29 2014 14:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wave, why is BH 'slipping' scummy?

Please enlighten me so I can have a good chuckle.

On August 29 2014 14:46 Holyflare wrote:
I pretty clearly state why i ordered the groups like i did and ritoky was first because i thought he was towny and the other 2 weren't??

On August 29 2014 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
1) i guessed you were toad and you said you weren't so honestly don't know if it is or isn't and if it is i have no idea how you play town because I've played 1? Game with you and you were mafia with me.

2) i cared about the order of the first 3 groups hence why i set them out with you second. I thought ritoky group would be easy because ritoky was asking questions in right places (in regards to you talking about marv) and bh did weird entrance/bs being more weird. Your group i thought you were pretty towny so the group would be between bunnies and wade and one of those is not playing this game while playing another. Group D was smurfs and tambo and they were all mysteries bar not me. What tambo said rings true to me that nrhf could appear town day 1 to get a win for his cell so leaving him 3rd was better than first or second because he is most likely to fall off whereas the other reads are based more on facts. That left me to choose between marvs group and mine and like i said, my group is 50/50 from my mayor pov and one of the other people in my group stated correctly that his pm was town. Apparently though mm1 can be this non useful as town so maybe wave got told pm's by artanis in which case it doesn't matter. I'm also not very good at reading oats and amiko looked ok to me for a while which made marv a question mark but he's started to look more towny soooo here we are

On August 29 2014 14:58 Holyflare wrote:


I think that it's pretty evident that the guy asking the right questions in a cell i put first because it should be easy would be my town read?? :s


I know Amiko is a very good player and i haven't seen him play mafia but his style so far has looked like I've seen him play previously (although i think i said when i was coaching him his style would be easy to replicate as mafia i think?) I'm not too bothered seeing as he's last cell and has ample time to show his alignment

On August 29 2014 15:09 Holyflare wrote:
I mean what i said was a good read anyway so i don't know why you aren't happy with just that. I don't know.

On August 29 2014 14:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wave, why is BH 'slipping' scummy?

Please enlighten me so I can have a good chuckle.

On August 30 2014 00:35 marvellosity wrote:
it doesn't nail him to the wall (although obviously it doesn't look good), and I could see that.

shrug. What you find weird about me Wave, I don't really care :>

On August 30 2014 01:58 Holyflare wrote:
Is this the famous oats with too much information? Looks like it is to me.

On August 30 2014 00:33 Amiko wrote:
@WaveofShadow:




I don't actually feel like I have said (or have much) to say on MM1 yet - basically, I just feel like he'd be the easiest target in your group because he doesn't scream town when he's town. Since there was sentiment that your cell was solved, I wanted to point out that it may not be so easy. I haven't actually reviewed MM's games though, so what Holyflare was saying regarding his posting style may be correct, I probably won't look at MM's history until later in the game though.

I mention this because I figure that among marv & oats, I'd think they'd be more likely to try to mislynch me than each other since I have less experience in the game. And, if they remember any experience with me, the only game we played together, Catastrophe, I did not appear towny at all (to be fair, it wasn't in my interest to appear towny).
That said, oats' post on me feels more scummy since he seems to be misconstruing my comments in a way to present me as mafia. If I had to pick right now, I'd say oats is the scum in our cell.

As for apathy, I'm really not sure but I had a pretty good feeling on him D1 despite some posts that I disagreed with (putting Cell E at the end, for example). For Cell E, I think I need to talk to bunnies more to get a good sense of her.

On August 30 2014 02:32 marvellosity wrote:

Here, drink this drink I'm giving you that I made without you watching. Nothing can go wrong, it'll be delicious. Cmon babe, all the way down.

On August 30 2014 02:39 marvellosity wrote:

btw i thought this too, but then i also thought of oats hard-defending scumbuddies in pyp:lol

On August 30 2014 02:44 marvellosity wrote:

yes, but the 2nd half of my statement also suggests the mafia-mafia possibility

On August 30 2014 03:34 batsnacks wrote:
Nevermind ritoky you don't need to answer those questions.

On August 30 2014 05:15 marvellosity wrote:
the thing is, BH, if somehow you're not mafia, i'll still happily lynch you if you refuse to play the game.

Was there a time as town you let yourself get lynched without trying to play the game a bit?

On August 30 2014 05:17 Holyflare wrote:
Post pictures of your dinner

On August 29 2014 15:21 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm tired of dealing with your literal feces. come on and vote me. I'll solv ethe damn game like I always do and catch all the scum like I always do, and you'll alll hate me for it like you always do cause i'm do damn right

boew down before your master

hgrit your teeth and pretend to hate me but in your heart you know I am right

On August 30 2014 06:22 marvellosity wrote:

n/a
no
no

On August 30 2014 06:27 marvellosity wrote:
Could vote batsnacks for daring to tell me that i don't know what goes on on 'gay forums'

the cheek of it.

On August 30 2014 06:50 Holyflare wrote:
I can't really take anyone that votes him seriously, and it helps that all my towny reads are voting bh too

On August 30 2014 07:00 Holyflare wrote:
Ksc?

On August 30 2014 07:55 Professor Apathy wrote:

the picture above

so after reading real quick: all in all ritoky got a little more on the scummy side for posting that picture that DOES NOTHING AT ALL and fixing it like it's important or anything like that while not actually using it for anything.

Did BH answer why he never mentioned that he'd move flats? Would have been real easy to just outright say "guys, I'm busy on Xth and X+1th day, please don't put my cell on that date"

and batsnacks... well he's still batsnacks. I'm trying to read his posts, I really am but every second I have this urge to just scroll along. I think nothing really changed about it.

On August 31 2014 01:37 marvellosity wrote:
because you're bad and difficult

toad is more cooperative.

On August 31 2014 01:51 Amiko wrote:
@marv
What do you think of the content batsnacks actually posted?
Have you considered it or are you just set on voting Blazinghand because of his non-activity?

If you can convince me batsnacks' last few posts are better than I thought I'm open to moving to Blazinghand.

On August 31 2014 01:55 Not really holyflare wrote:


Also, if someone can convince me that bat's listpost is far from scummy, I might be willing to switch to BH.

On August 31 2014 01:56 Professor Apathy wrote:

I kind of have this reputation to appear as the towniest townie that ever towned a town whenever I roll mafia. Except for two games in which I just derped:
One was with holyflare in which I was the towniest townie that ever towned a town until he suddenly bussed our GF, GF got lynched and I literally stopped playing being pissed.
Second and the important one being: one against Marv where he figured me out like 4 hours into d1 because of a slip I made. I apologized to my teammates and said there's no point in playing anymore as there's nothing I can do.

We know each other for some time now and he can read me really really good. The fact that he didn't actually burp out my name any earlier and didn't realize it's me is what's giving me some issues with him but that could just be me being self-centered. It's actually pretty close to that one move when I masoned Sandroba on d1 10 seconds into the day that made me confirmed town for him as well because he didn't think I'd dare to do that as mafia. So actually I think marv's point makes sense for him. I'm not entirely sure if he'd feel the need to say it though. He usually likes giving me a hard time.


It's not about BH not leading town, it's about BH not doing anything. I don't think anyone expected BH to be leading town.

The more I reread the more I want to vote BH again because in the end just like Marv said my vote on bats boils down to laziness and actually that's usually a major towntell in my book. Not the fact that he's lazy but the fact that he just outraight says so without thinking about it. Stupid group is stupid...

On August 31 2014 02:00 Professor Apathy wrote:
On the Marv giving me a hard time: scratch that part. I said I only have 75 minutes left (now 45) so there's no way he'd give me a hard time right now. So I take that back and it's actually the opposite, somewhat townish that he's straight right now.

On August 31 2014 02:05 batsnacks wrote:
Isn't it amazing how if I spew crazy nonsense everyone thinks I'm town but if I actually give out reads all of that goes away in an instant.

Part of me wants to just let everyone vote me because you all deserve it, part of me wants to revert back to crazy talk, and very little of me actually wants to try. I guess Ill take some time to decide what I want to do.

On August 31 2014 02:07 Amiko wrote:
Btw let's just point out the irony:
Marv is able to be a dick and not answer questions because it is his "meta" that he will ignore your questions.
Marv wants to vote Blazinghand because he doesn't want Blazinghand to be able to get away with not playing the game.

Btw this is not indicative to me of an alignment. More indicative of personality >:D

On August 31 2014 02:08 batsnacks wrote:


I don't know if I like the cut of your jib.

On August 31 2014 02:08 Amiko wrote:


Yeah I understand that, but if marv is going to try to lead town at the end of D1 I'd like to think he's actually read one of the few posts from batsnacks that has substance.

On August 31 2014 02:05 batsnacks wrote:
Isn't it amazing how if I spew crazy nonsense everyone thinks I'm town but if I actually give out reads all of that goes away in an instant.

Part of me wants to just let everyone vote me because you all deserve it, part of me wants to revert back to crazy talk, and very little of me actually wants to try. I guess Ill take some time to decide what I want to do.

On August 31 2014 02:27 marvellosity wrote:

I'd already seen that, but if people weren't willing to vote for BH anyway then meh. If he's not playing then he's not playing then he's not playing. Don't need proof that he's doing something else to show that :/

On August 31 2014 02:27 Professor Apathy wrote:

I once did pictures of me flipping a total of 25 coins in a 3 way tie to decide who to shoot as a vig. I think I only posted that postgame though.

And when I say picture of me flipping 25 coins I'm mean you saw the coin on my table, a pen and a drawn tally.

On August 31 2014 02:37 marvellosity wrote:
I hope you guys realise if you lynch batsnacks and he flips town, I am going to be completely unbearable.

On August 31 2014 02:48 Not really holyflare wrote:


yes.
I'm waiting for the 'NO YOU GUYS ARE FISH FOR THINKING BAT IS SCUM VOTE BH NOW' part, with 30 minutes left.
I might have exaggerated that part a slight bit.

On August 31 2014 03:09 Blazinghand wrote:


well, not NOW, obviously, but look at it this way. At the start of the day, like a million people vote me, including batsnacks, and he doesn't try to ask me questions, pressure me, or even mention ritoky. The first time he does this is about 24 hours ago (link). He makes a lot of posts, conversationally, and he's not afraid to step on toes, but they're all like this (link) or like this (link). I would consider batsnacks' early contributions during this day to be basically the same as mine: nonexistent. He certainly makes a lot of posts, but none with real meaning.

Then, only after he comes under some pressure, he coughts up this hairball: (link) while at the same time trying to downplay his earlier play and focus you guys on his most recent play, so you think he's active.

On August 31 2014 03:14 Blazinghand wrote:


Yeah, but in everyone's face with what? Not cases, not analysis, with NOTHING. Look, if he was literally not posting, that wouldn't be flying under the radar, people would notice that. In a game of mafia, to not attract attention, you have to make posts. And if you're batsnacks, who's generally a caustic player, you don't make a bunch of milquetoast posts. How else would batsnacks try to avoid attention than what he's doing now? There's no way batsnacks could contribute less without people saying "wtf batsnacks is being really weird"



I'm glad to do so, but I'm not gonna stop paying attention to the fact that i'm leading the votes dude, and you're voting me for reasons that still are not clear to me.

On August 31 2014 03:28 Blazinghand wrote:


walk me through your thought process then, cause right now I don't get it.

You unvote me(link) and explicitly state i'm not off the hook, after batsnacks' travest of a post and me noting i have bad internet. You interact with professor apathy, than you are bothered by batsnacks' posting (link), then you say you'd flip a coin between us because you're so on the fence, (link) then you (now jokingly) criticize the title of my book review (link) , then you vote me because... bats is here? (link)

from what I can tell, you didn't have any particular plan to vote me, and you just did it because bats... showed up? Even though you don't like bats.

I don't get it.

On August 31 2014 04:43 batsnacks wrote:


I am town reading bunnies because she is posting differently from the last cell game where she was mafia. It is hard to explain but last game pretty much all of her posts screamed scum to me, this game none of them do. Last game her posts were highly conversational, there wasn't anything like this. Page 2 of her filter reads highly town to me. Also, if she were mafia it would have been very easy for her to vote me when I insinuated she was a guy roleplaying as a girl. If I were bunnies as mafia, feigning offense at that and voting me would have been a logical course of action.

On August 31 2014 23:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:


If you mean by lists posts, then yes.
If you mean the quality, prob so.

Do I care? Nah.

MY goal here is to find the mafia. Whether or not you like my posts, doesn't matter to me.

On September 01 2014 01:54 Professor Apathy wrote:
I'm actually afraid of a situation like this:

1. Mafia knows they can't lynch me
   
2. wade was on my side / against bunny pretty early on
   
3. Bunnies was outspoken early on, partly because of me bringing attention to her as well
   
4. someone in mafia-QT or whatever they use told wade to just keep his head burried in the sand until lynch is over because that way nothing will change with the fronts being quite clear between bunnies / me
   
5. Bunnies keeps posting because duh, but with massive amounts of confirmation bias, because there's really nothing else to go with because wade isn't posting that only results in her digging her own grave deeper and deeper no matter what.

I really think her posts are horrible but I just can't see how you guys can be so confident that it's 5 vs 0 votes right now, especially since this pretty much a repetition of the first Cell, just not that extreme. If anything we should be pressuring wade to force him to do something. Bunnies is at least in here sometimes.

We really need wade to do STUFF.

On September 01 2014 00:10 Holyflare wrote:
And I'm just going to put it out there that marv could be mafia after berating me for not putting him before me because he's so good at looking towny but then doing absolutely nothing in this game whatsoever. Also the general lack of trying to do anything while being agreeable with what people are saying (aka jat last game).

On September 01 2014 00:18 Professor Apathy wrote:
give that WoS man a medal. I'm not lynching that guy ever. Just putting it out here to make sure you guys don't do anything stupid next cycle.

On September 01 2014 00:24 marvellosity wrote:
Of course it is.

I had zero interest in talking about anything other than lynching BH, because I strongly think/thought he was mafia.

I had no interest in discussing lynching batsnacks the townie because I thought he was townie.

It's very simple.

On September 01 2014 02:07 marvellosity wrote:

Why even mention it? You know it's entirely consistent with my character.

As for littlewade - I'm sure he was in the newbie game that I coached GlowingBear, and my hazy recollection of not really reading that game is that he actually put in a fair bit of effort, unlike this one.

On September 01 2014 02:13 marvellosity wrote:
the dude has like 8 posts.

so either he's town and a fucking asshole

or he's mafia

as, believe it or not, I don't like defaulting to someone being a fucking asshole, right now I'm gonna go with mafia.

On September 01 2014 02:21 marvellosity wrote:

? I was ruthlessly consistent in telling town that BH was the right lynch. I could have shouted more but it wasn't convenient.

tell me what you like about lilwade as town then?

There was this one game where bunnies was town where she had this weird as fuck read that Slam was town that she couldn't explain, and it's the kinda thing that usually stinks of TMI, except she was actually town and just had a really weird read. Dunno if i've been in a game she was mafia in.

On September 01 2014 02:34 marvellosity wrote:

as an aside, this is precisely why mafia lurk.

On September 01 2014 02:39 Professor Apathy wrote:

you didn't have to put it so bluntly

On September 01 2014 06:22 Professor Apathy wrote:
because I'm obviously the most moe/cute guy around and he's trying to hit on me

On September 01 2014 06:55 MysteryMeat1 wrote:


Like i already admitted to sheeping ritoky, and didn't vote bats who happened to be town. The reason i give apathy points is becasue if he was mafia, i think it would be easier for him to just vote for ojou-sama (bunnies) and make a case against her. I'll admit to not knowing how to read lilwade, as i don't recall ever playing with him and he hasnt posted stuff. not afraid to admit to sheeping someones reads on him. I think ojou-sama is scummy so i'm voting for her..

On September 01 2014 06:56 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Also reading back on bunnies filter it seemed like she was like oh, i know ritoky is mafia, im going to vote on him to get me some points later. Oh everyone thinks hes town? time to vote for someone else. Thats how i interpreted that response

On September 01 2014 13:00 Amiko wrote:
The point isn't that he voted in one place and not the other, it's that everyone in his cell is voting (or trying to vote) for bunnies, so obviously at least one mafia is voting or trying to vote for bunnies.
This doesn't give any indication that it's voting town or mafia but was considering it since when we were talking about d2 earlier it wasn't the case (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463542-cell-mini-mafia-iii?page=65#1281)

On September 01 2014 08:25 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I gave town points for Apathy voting on lilwade instead of bunnies, but do you think lilwade is an easier mislynch? In a sense there is still 24 hours to go, if he pushes on bunnies who will post for sure, or does he deflect onto lilwade, since he hasn't posted anything?

On September 02 2014 01:22 marvellosity wrote:

it does? how come babe?

On September 02 2014 02:12 Holyflare wrote:


because once you get modkilled from a game (and i know he was around and still got modkilled from newbie) you can focus on the other one. He's not posted any reason to afk, he just comes back in to settle the people against him with a vote and back to lurking again. I'd expect if he was town he'd just be like "sorry i was mafia in another game and more interested in winning there" and then post some kind of basic analysis or anything or say he's reading but the maintained lurk while present means he's literally just avoiding posting on purpose

On September 02 2014 02:14 Professor Apathy wrote:

the reasoning wasn't "I need more time to defend myself". The reason was "I tend to ragequit when I'm annoyed and can get away with it. If I'm in last Cell I can't get away with it".

group A: I still think BH was mafia (now that I know bats wasn't)
group B: I don't think Holy is mafia. Not as certain on his towniness as on WoS but I would have pushed Holy had I thought he's mafia to make sure noone listens to him
group C: I'm actually still not sure about for various reasons I don't feel like going into
group D: damdred looks somewhat okay. Yeah I'd probably still go for your mum
group E: I'm obviously voting lilwade right now

@Marv/WoS

On September 02 2014 02:24 Holyflare wrote:


i really don't think so...

let's say he's mafia in both games, in one game he puts all his effort into it but he lurks/posts some analysis because hes invested in that one but he clearly hasn't read this one at all so only comes back to appease people with nothingness and a vote to not get modkilled

he is quite literally (and I know this for a fact) present a lot of the time but not posting here at all and didn't post in the newbie despite being here. Who does that? Mafia does that because they want to hide and not do anything.

Now let's say he's town here and invested in one game as mafia but not the town one, why would he be present but still hiding? Why would he not just post anything about being busy or invested in the other game? Why hide everything and just return to stop yourself getting modkilled when your name is called out? He's dead in that game so at least he has no reason to hide here at all?

On September 02 2014 02:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Sure, I'll actually do that for the rest of the cells.

A- I think this cell was BH
E- Lilwade- he's not participating, leaves random comments. Idk. PA has a better tr and I'm town, so POE.
D- For this cell, IDK tbh. I don't really remember either YM or NRHF. I remember you though. Your first post was pretty godly.
B- HF questioning of me is super weird. But MM1 has been leaving ridiculous posts too. Late voting, ritoky sheeping, then his "I have a gut read on bunnies but screw it, let's vote off Lilwade" post was super super scummy. Then again, MM gets mislynched quite often, but he would be my number 1, followed by HF.
C- I already said I have a tr on Marv. People think he's been scummy by people I mean HF, but I guess I just have a different read than HF does. I really like Amiko, too. His questioning this game has been fantastic! So I'd go for Oats in this cell.

On September 02 2014 02:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:


You weren't mentioned cause I mentioned the other two in your cell whom I have better reads on.

You are pretty townie WOS, asking questions, trying to figure out the game. I actually remember you had an argument with someone, did you not?

I figured me leaving you out implied I thought you were town.

On September 02 2014 02:43 Holyflare wrote:
i dunno there's something about cell which kinda just makes playing it boring

On September 02 2014 02:43 27ninjabunnies wrote:


You are an idiot.
I mention Toad because he is in my cell. I was giving reads.
So I mention everyone else but you? Who cares? I have nothing against you and was just giving out reads on other cells.
The town read on you was implied in not mentioning you.

Personal touch? The only way I wouldn't mention you in a read is if we were mafia partners together, and I wanted to get suspiscion off of you, but that's not the case here because I am town, and I thought you were town. It's not like I consciously did it.

On September 02 2014 03:25 Holyflare wrote:


yes but he isn't being voted on today

On September 02 2014 03:29 27ninjabunnies wrote:


That honestly bugs me too. I pointed it out earlier.

It makes me wonder if he is trying to get a mislynch just on anyone?

On September 02 2014 07:10 Not really holyflare wrote:
Alright, I'm not going to switch my vote. Ever.

On September 03 2014 05:28 Holyflare wrote:
lack of effort/care lack of reads ez

On September 03 2014 08:39 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
im still lynching HF tomorrow

On September 03 2014 07:55 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
are you actually a dumbass HF? If all people from the cell vote for bunnies, or course one mafia is voting on their partner. The fact is bunnies was probably mafia, as no one voted for apathy. Either we just got rolled or bunnies was mafia. Same thing with ritoky. You also did the same thing iirc, you voted on your partner and then used some dumb excuse to switch your vote to a town

On September 03 2014 08:00 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I would also like to add the fact that bunnies making a post calling me scum, for switching my vote and not being confident. Which makes absolutely no sense. If bunnies is town, she should be happy that i believed her towness and switched my vote. I also switched my vote to someone she was voting for and scumreading at the time.

It's also in bunnies video mafia style to make a list and include her mafia partner not as a top scum read but as a side scum read.

On September 03 2014 08:47 Amiko wrote:
@WaveofShadow / Holyflare:
Marv was killed as town N2 in Heavyweight III.
Did you feel he was easy to read as town in that game?

@NRHF:
I do want Holyflare, and maybe WoS/marv to know who you are to read you so please reveal yourself by then or I'll just do it. I still think you are pretty town so it's not a huge deal but eh you should do it if only to see if it gives you any helpful responses.
Also lemme know what you think of Cell B :3

On September 03 2014 09:01 Amiko wrote:
@WoS:
I've only been in 3-player LYLO once and won, but I picked wrong in Dr. Who (I don't actually remember if we knew it was LYLO though) and probably would have picked wrong in Detention if I'd stayed alive.

Really, all town (myself included I guess) are really screwing up. For town to win it means we have to lynch right in all three remaining cells. So honestly, everyone alive should be looking at all the remaining cells now since we'll never have this many town players available to look at the game. I.e. it's almost as important that people talk about Cell B & C now as it is to talk about the current cells.

Since Holyflare & WoS are supposed to be good at reading marv and at least one is town, do you have any comments on him?

My view of Oats is that it feels like most of his memorable posts are tunnelling me, but in retrospect I guess he posted some on marv as well. I'll try to write something about it.

lol HF you just got fucking told
The only issue I have with HF scum right now is if he is, for him to have been fairly conclusively caught by MM1 and everyone else waffling all over the place is unlikely (no offense). HF is one of if not THE best scum on TL right now, and he's not Hapa to get caught by shitlogic/shitcases. His play is still wrong but I have no clue why.

As for you, MM1, how come the bolded logic doesn't apply to me or to the bunch of other people who started out voting bunnies/BH and then switched to the alternatives? Looks more like you've already decided HF is scum and are applying tidbits you find posthumously.

On September 03 2014 09:33 Holyflare wrote:
There's no possible way that town mysterymeat scum reads 27ninjabunnies but then when holyflare comes along and starts questioning ninjabunnies he says "oh you're pressuring my scum read a lot you are probably scum in my cell! that's super weird of you!"

On September 01 2014 07:06 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
The only thing im scared about atm, is that HF is also trying to bury you and i think he could be mafia in my group. Due to the fact that he's been saying that everything i've said is scummy since my intro post.

On September 03 2014 12:13 Amiko wrote:
I was trying to find a haruhi gif that wouldn't make it suuuuuper super obvious but still kinda obvious

On September 03 2014 10:00 Holyflare wrote:


he even acknowledges you have also been calling him scum in his slip post

On September 04 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
he posted that he was sheeping marv after he scum read him as if it was a useful comment, he's also been very sure of things like "NUUU it's a town tell" and "no bla bla is definitely mafia" while ignoring everyone else

i wouldn't honestly be surprised if wave was mafia with oats though

On September 04 2014 07:30 Amiko wrote:
@Holyflare
- Any particular reason why you asked WaveofShadow in particular if he was vt (the d1 trap thing)?
I'm wondering why you didn't ask me or Apathy or someone else who was also on at the time since Wave didn't answer at first

- Did you ever answer this one from Wave on Oats?
+ Show Spoiler +


@WaveofShadow
- When we were voting on lilwade you were pointing to NRHF as having really poor posting on D2.
+ Show Spoiler + and you still seemed interested him here + Show Spoiler +
There's some justification to not suspect NRHF in the second post (based on his vote timings - I'll take a look at that since I'm not sure) but is there a reason why you moved toward voting for your mom without continuing to suspect or questioning NRHF?
You did call NRHF town later (when it was revealed it was HaruRH) but you seemed to back off of him before that

On September 03 2014 15:33 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
@WaveofShadow

look at how many times HF, has called me scum, or tried to throw scum on me. I do admit to saying that both of you called me scum, but you can even see that i misread. If you look at your post, you never said i was actually scum. I'll apologize for misreading but it wasn't a slip.

Also look at bunnies response to me switching my vote off of her.


as a side note: i'm pretty happy with this groups lynch. The fact that everyone in our cell is actually playing probably means we are hitting scum today. I was gonna say (the fact that HF is posting a lot) but i'm trying to avoid the tunnel.

Apparently he's acknowledged that I've called him scum before but magically forgot when he needed to throw suspicion on you for the same reasons.

On September 04 2014 09:23 marvellosity wrote:
you go girl.

On September 04 2014 10:26 Amiko wrote:
@wave:

I'll be out for a little but I'll try to give you updated thoughts on Oats tonight. If C was up today I'd probably push on Oats as the lynch over marv; I don't really know Oats' meta but I feel like there's a fair case for him as scum based on his posts in this game, whereas for marv I think most of the scumfeels come from a sense of uneasiness that he hasn't been more proactive or tried to be persuasive.

One thing I wanted to look at but don't have time to right now is looking at whether Oats townreading marv early makes sense (since he was willing to "sheep" marv while at the same time suggesting he was seeing me as more town). And I dunno, I feel like most people voting for your mom weren't doing it to sheep marv (or at least didn't say so in that tone)

Anyway I'll take a look later and let you know but that's more or less how I'm thinking about it now

On September 04 2014 14:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
So in your opinion, looked = posted?
I can't have thought about it before posting my scumread? I have to post everything I think in thread? Stop trying to fit me into your narrative wos.

On September 05 2014 04:31 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
@Amiko i asked oats in particular cause he just mentioned the vote switching, but i'll ask everyone else besides HF since his answer is apparent.

I'd also like to remind everyone that HF has been lieing in his claim against me, and exaggerating "truths" to get me mislynched today. He also has recognized the possibility that



He has also failed to answer my question, on why he is townreading marv.

On September 05 2014 05:12 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I woke up that morning, read Apathy's post and thought to myself, my top town read in that cell is pretty convinced this wade is mafia. So i end up switching my vote.

i then start walking to work and reading the thread, and when i clock in for work,, i realize that bunnies is probably mafia. However at that point its too late. The only possible way to switch my vote is 5 minutes before deadline. Instead of 4 hours before deadline.

On September 05 2014 07:09 Holyflare wrote:
It was quite clearly a joke why the fuck would i scum read someone for being afk when i know he's afk??

On September 05 2014 07:28 Holyflare wrote:


You really aren't reading. He's saying i scum read you because of the trap. I said the scum reading thing was a joke.

On September 05 2014 07:30 Holyflare wrote:
My rationale for the you/oats thing is because mafia oats works with perfect info and makes it really in your face so him saying mm1's vote is a town tell when it really isn't makes me think he knows too much and could be mafia with you

On September 05 2014 07:30 Holyflare wrote:

Hard? You haven't pushed anything.

On September 05 2014 07:33 Holyflare wrote:


Yes wave gtfo

On September 05 2014 07:40 Holyflare wrote:


Don't really remember, i remember telling you vaguely but i could be wrong. It was something about analysis.

On September 05 2014 07:40 Holyflare wrote:


Don't really remember, i remember telling you vaguely but i could be wrong. It was something about analysis.

On September 05 2014 08:19 Holyflare wrote:
Don't you think wave should have SOME conclusions on our cell seeing as he's had 4 cycles to do it??

On September 05 2014 08:45 Holyflare wrote:
I gtg to bed now which is annoying because whichever one of you twat faces is mafia will start pushing me like crazy when i am asleep. Just know that I'm town and will always be town and couldn't have made the fucking trap in the first place unless i was town so whoever is town shape up and vote the other one.

On September 05 2014 08:48 Holyflare wrote:
Well the majority of this game has been spent in hospital with my gf's sister on my phone, I was at home for the past 3 days but now I'm out again. Hence why i did analysis when i could.