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On August 04 2014 08:54 WaveofShadow wrote: I hate playing on iPad. Oh well, eels for all. Lol as I read from my iPad. And I need to buy a new note book. | ||
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On August 07 2014 00:31 kushm4sta wrote: what is your gut telling you, and try to verbalize why your gut is telling you that. Holyflare is scum. Just the way he jumps on certain things gives me feelings he is scum then either drops it of if someelse talks about he keeps going. | ||
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On August 05 2014 11:57 WaveofShadow wrote: Is this really what you're going on? I have done this multiple times as town. Prome has done it as town. I can't give more examples because I can't remember past games anymore without searching. See like this just rubs me the wrong way. Also makes me lean townish on WoS. Anyway more read less post from me until catch up or day post. | ||
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On August 07 2014 00:58 Holyflare wrote: Please disregard everyone that scum reads me as terrible. It will work in your best interest. I'm not going to follow kush blindly into something because he also thinks I'm definitely mafia and that's wrong. Onegu has a history of reading me correctly once in a game and then never again and thinks he can then blindly read me forever. Onegu quotes a post where i say catching up post by post is scummy but then doesn't post the part where i say where theu catch up focusing on irrelevant parts straight away afterwards. He doesn't even acknowledge what poofter is doing like it's some conclusive proof I'm mafia. More like 2 times and both times I was correct. And there is more than just that quote I made. That was just on the page I was on. When I am caught up and its day, if I still have a scum read on you I will talk about it then. But as I am reading you made me gut tickle. | ||
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On August 07 2014 01:14 Holyflare wrote: That onegu is ACTUALLY doing some misrepresentation Like what? | ||
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On August 05 2014 15:17 Eden1892 wrote: Post count signal boost Also please for the love of god stop this. | ||
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On August 07 2014 01:32 Holyflare wrote: This. You say it rubs you the wrong way but don't explain why. You ignore why i said poofter was mafia completely and just go for me and selectively pick out 1 post in a chain of posts. Like i said, if it rubs you the wrong way that explicitly means you think what poofter did was TOWNY. If you think that that's ridiculous and scummy. Dude I'm not caught up, I feel you are nit picking things. I don't really have a strong read on poofter yet. I just pulled a quote that gave my gut a bad feeling when I saw it as I was reading. Besides how can a read on you mean I have a read on someone. First you a perfectly capable of soft bussing or even hard bussing as scum, so why are you trying to twist things to make it look like I am giving someone a town read when I am only pointing out something that made me feel scum you said. | ||
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On August 07 2014 01:52 Holyflare wrote: So you're going to off handedly call me mafia and then when i counter that with legitimate reasoning you say it's nit picking? Wtf? It's not a gut feeling to pull out a post and say it's bad that's just making shit up. Also that you can bus statement is wtf too. The bus statement is about no matter what my read on you is, doesn't mean I have a opposite read on someone else. Like you say if I find you scummy then I have to find poofter town. When I don't because you are capable of bussing and I know that. | ||
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On August 07 2014 01:57 Holyflare wrote: I can't comprehend why you'd use an unflipped players alignment (mine) to then give another player a town read (wave) Because of how wave called you out on it seemed townie. Is this hard for you? | ||
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On August 07 2014 02:38 Holyflare wrote: Such a generic buzz word nitpicking because calling out scummy bs is not nitpicking and certainly it involves poofter because if you thinj what poofter did was scummy then it can not categorically be nitpicking because I'm pointing out scummy shit No basically what you did there was say something was scummy when it wasn't, even saying 100% scummy. Then when I said you give me scum feelings for that you try and twist my words to give someone a town read because of a scum feel on you. Not point out scummy shit. How is the post I pointed out a scum tell it's not its a null tell at best, that you flip into 100% non town. | ||
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On August 07 2014 03:31 kushm4sta wrote: onegu I'm more interested in your other scumreads, since I think this back and forth is one long bus. I'll get there I'm 10 pages from being caught up. Then get some sleep. Will post reads and who I want to lynch when I am up. | ||
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@ WoS. I pointed out my gut felt he was scum, and quoted something you and him talked about to give me feels on both of you. Then he was like oh then why did you give poofter a town read. He twisted my words to make his own agenda and defense. It's on page like 94ish, my filter is small you should see it fast in there. If you guys are against a marv lynch I would want HF Back later with the rest of my reads. ##VOTE:Marv | ||
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On August 07 2014 01:32 Holyflare wrote: This. You say it rubs you the wrong way but don't explain why. You ignore why i said poofter was mafia completely and just go for me and selectively pick out 1 post in a chain of posts. Like i said, if it rubs you the wrong way that explicitly means you think what poofter did was TOWNY. If you think that that's ridiculous and scummy. | ||
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On August 07 2014 18:34 Holyflare wrote: Um yes? That's exactly what i just explained onegu. If you think what I said was scummy then it's wrong or pushing a scum agenda. If that is the case what i was commenting on (poofters catch up posts) should be toeny and if you think it's a bus woth some shitty association then my post isn't actually scummy No it is you are pointing out a null tell as it is 100% scum tell. That is really shady. It wasnt the first thing that got my spidy senses tingling on you anyway. I will work on a case of the things that made me feel scum on you in a bit. | ||
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On August 07 2014 18:35 Holyflare wrote: Please don't do this retarded shit again onegu where you don't comprehend logic the entire game But im normally right... | ||
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This is the most recent game I tunneled HF and was correct. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/434275-tl-mafia-lxiii-time-to-die | ||
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On August 07 2014 18:44 marvellosity wrote: You do realise in my last scumgame I posted literally 3 (three) times before giving up completely because i hate playing mafia so much and it was my 2nd time in a row, and this would be my 3rd scumgame in a row and I've posted 300 times? Nope havent follwed the play here in many months. And maybe you care a small bit more about this game since you are the champ somyou dont just quit... Idk Ill think about it. | ||
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On August 07 2014 18:52 Holyflare wrote: more importantly why are you using some "tell" that you think you have on me and are scum reading me and you're going to make a case on me but then after all that you vote marv because he didn't die over someone who was quite clearly towny!? Because I think marv is the better player, no offense. But again maybe you are better now. Im eating and thinking at same time. | ||
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On August 07 2014 21:51 Holyflare wrote: Where on earth did onegu go be must respond to stuff Ill be free in a few hours when my kids get to sleep and be up most the night. | ||
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About a poofter lynch Im not really into it so much. He has just been useless without doing much. Just think there are better targets then him. Im not so sure he is scum. I dont really have a good read on him one way or the other. I am going to filter Haru, Poofter, and Obi right now. Haru gave me some gut feelings also but I dont remember why. I need to buy a new paper folder for notes instead of keeping them in my head as I lose the specifics with my pain meds. | ||
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On August 08 2014 05:43 marvellosity wrote: Onegu what is your read on me, and precisely why? Its Basicly null. Like I expect more of you. And it really wierds me out you aren't dead. Like yes kush was looking really townie and many people were putting town r.eads on him. But still Its much easier for you to push a lynch though than kush. Like you are the champ if you get a good scum read on someone and say it in thread that person gets lynched very little questions asked. While Kush would have to like work much harder to push a lynch though. That means you are so much more dangerous. Second you were very active about vivax. I mean if you dont push it he doesnt get lynched I think. That is just your power in a game. Mafia should really fear that. Hence why arent you dead. I keep asking my self this. I just keep asking myself is that enough to lynch you for now? and atm I am thinking not quite enough. Thats also why I am really looking a haru now. Because he did give me some feelings when I quickly read the thread to catch up.. Not as much as HF but still. | ||
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On August 08 2014 06:04 marvellosity wrote: this is like the worst thing i've ever read I maybe a little bit messed up. I was pain much earlier today and maybe took a bit to much pain meds. <3 But still I think you should be dead if you are town. Like If I was mafia and you were town you would be dead. I dont care if anyone else looks really townie you are just to dangerous to scum if you are town. So Marv why are you alive? | ||
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On August 08 2014 06:08 justanothertownie wrote: Really? You are going for the too scummy to be scum argument? not really just thinking | ||
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On August 08 2014 06:09 marvellosity wrote: Onegu, have you replaced in to a game as town? I think you have but I can't remember which one. Help a brother out please My last newbie. The rest I think I all got scum. Im thinking about it. IIRC that newbie I tunneled HF and was wrong. | ||
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On August 08 2014 06:40 marvellosity wrote: I have a whole special Chrome open with 6 tabs, just for Onegu. I hope he feels special. <3. Im drifting in and out of metal ability. But my stuff this game isnt unsubstantiated. Like its really wierd, you should be dead in a game with no blues n1. | ||
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On August 08 2014 08:22 marvellosity wrote: the tldr of Onegu's play this game is: he is doing exactly what he did in the other game he replaced as mafia. He comes in and starts giving out weak scumreads on the fly, on prominent players (me, hf) compared to (koshi, marv) in the previous game as mafia. There's no joking about or lightheartedness at all, he only does scumreads and not townreads, which he always gives and explains as town. In short he's playing exactly to his mafia meta and nothing like his town meta. Marv really I am disapoint. Did anyone else go bother to read that game. I basicly made a huge case on koshi before I was caught up with the thread, and was caught that way. And really you are going to go meta on someone who hasnt played a mafia game in like 8 months? | ||
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On August 09 2014 02:55 Holyflare wrote: So why did you vote null read marv over me? Also never wrote a case on me? First at the time I wasnt null on marv, and like I said I felt he was the bigger threat. | ||
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On August 09 2014 03:03 Holyflare wrote: That's the worst reason I've ever heard. Not only was it evident that marv wasn't even doing anything substantial in comparison to kush (by reading the thread) but you "could read me np because I'm a worse player than marv and you read me successfully many times". Like i asked before, if it's so easy and you're so confident why did you base a vote on evidently wifom night kill over your tried and tested scum read??? Holyflare, scum reads on both of you. Which is more dangerous? Marv > HF. Ok vote Marv. | ||
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On August 09 2014 03:12 Holyflare wrote: Like i can't fathom how in anyone's mind they base their choice of lynch on nk wifom even though the person that was nk'd was doing great things over the person they scum read for actual reasons in the game and some meta read that doesn't exist anywhere but in his mind its not just my mind. Artanis even posted a diagram to find out if Marv is scum. Its what you go on with Marv because he is such a strong player. | ||
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On August 09 2014 03:25 justanothertownie wrote: Like if you want to convince ANYONE that marv is scum going for your mislynch then you will have to show us why what he has done so far is scummy. This nightkill wifom attack is the laziest attempt of a push I can imagine. Ok is this what you expect from a Marv town game? Go read ## Mafia that I replaced into. He didnt catch with BS meta case. He caught with actual scum hunting. He asked questions to me and when I answered he asked more until he cornered me. There is none of that here. Its here is a meta case on a guy who hasnt played in 8 months, go get em. I have never seen a town Marv play like this. He isnt acrively trying to solve the game. Hes trowning things out there and hopeing they stick and then jokeing around. Unless he has changed this much in the time I have been gone. | ||
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On August 09 2014 03:28 Eden1892 wrote: eh imma b hones id prolly follow it if i didnt feel like marv was obvtown Why do you think he is obv town? | ||
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On August 09 2014 03:35 justanothertownie wrote: You know what's the problem with this logic? You are basing your scumread on his attack against you. But when he started doing so you already scumread him. Im just adding on to my read though. He didnt do much day 1 either. Ill go into his filter and see how many posts of his are actual figure the game out posts. | ||
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On August 09 2014 03:43 Holyflare wrote: Unless I've played way too much as mafia that all my thoughts are mafia aligned then marv is not mafia. He's said everything i was thinking in regards to vivax at the time, not scum reading gd because of vivax association, vivax feeling mafiay, picking up on vivax when he did. Way too many similar thoughts. Must be the QT | ||
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On August 09 2014 03:51 Holyflare wrote: You didn't even comment or acknowledge the haru thing that marv laid out and you still said you had scummy feelings on haru despite every person in the game saying haru was scummy since the start. last night I was kinda messed up. and haru is just south of null for me. And what does it matter what everyone elses read on him was. | ||
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On August 09 2014 03:49 Holyflare wrote: You can't possibly expect that you aren't getting lynched today regardless of if you are town or not and instead of actively trying to think things through or rethink or point out things that happened in the game you are just explaining overarching meta based on nk wifom. You haven't even explained your mafia read on me which you should have been doing if you were town because you want everyone to have all the information possible if you got mislynched. Thats what im doing... | ||
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On August 09 2014 04:00 Holyflare wrote: Yes well anything you write about me being mafia is wrong so whatever you write is not only wasting your time exploring actual mafia candidates but doesn't leave town in a better spot whatsoever because people have talked about me to death. Also people's reads on haru matter a lot. Unless you think mafia have bussed solely haru for the entirety of the game. not sure about haru, why did you defend him about the +1/-1 thing though? | ||
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On August 09 2014 04:13 Holyflare wrote: Where did i defend haru??? You dont really defend him, you kinda pull people off of the +1/-1 thing and say dont look at that look at hos defense of Wave and his contentless filter. Im just asking why pull people off of the +1/-1 thing? | ||
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On August 09 2014 03:54 Onegu wrote: Eden why are you voteing me? Sorry I meant Haru here. | ||
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After HF jumps onto Haru he doesnt throw a vote down until this. On August 05 2014 04:26 Holyflare wrote: but anyway i'll stick to this ##vote obiwanshinobi But before this what does HF actually say about obi? On August 04 2014 20:32 Holyflare wrote: urghhh I want to town read wave but he's making it so difficult  obi being very mafiaish though Just this and asks what is obis vote on marv. Thats it. Tons and tons on Haru scum but his first vote goes on someone he has mentioned twice? On August 05 2014 04:29 Holyflare wrote: your only contribution has been to lynch marv because you can't explain the reasons so really you haven't done anything at all but say words and that marv is 100% confirmed mafia for reasons despite the fact that his activity is 1000x that of last game and he was talking about points that made sense your entrance was also far more subdued than normal and actually you appeared way too tactful than what you are (cocky/dickish) as town normally Now we get the Obi reason. Because of Marvs meta and activity makes marv town. But like I have said 24 hours ago this doesnt make marv town just because he hasnt quit. Maybe he cares more about this game so he plays it. So why whould you go from multiple posts and bullet notes on haru to a obi vote for meta reasons. This makes no sense from a town PoV. Then he goes back to haru is scum with his vote on obi until. On August 05 2014 11:39 Holyflare wrote: ##unvote ##vote poofter Sucks you rolled mafia this game Where the hell did this come from? Again almost no mention of poofter before this, into #1 target over haru. And whats the reason you vote him. Because of the thing I pointed out earlier that got me feeling scum in the first place. And what hF is talking about isnt a scum tell, its not. It doesnt matter how long it took even if it was 3 hours it doesnt matter. Its not a scum tell. And what else does HF have to say? On August 05 2014 12:00 Holyflare wrote: Also wave I'm too tunnelled on haru to really comment on it But never a vote on him. On August 05 2014 12:05 Holyflare wrote: Yes and when you do it as town you comment on useful stuff and draw conclusions from those posts and do it immediately when you are reading. Poofter waited 3 hours to then make his first comment on marv voting and I know from before when he was around that people say to read marv by seeing if he lynched mafia or not. He even references the game (order) where marv lynched mafia and it was said in that game. So reallt ghis 3 hours wait into commenting on something useless is what makes him mafia I have done this as town, the timeframe doesnt matter, and somerhing you find relevant and what poofter does maynot be the same thing. You are nit picking HF and that is scummy. And then HF jumps on Vivax. A confirmed townie. Thats his day one. A tunnel on someone he never votes. And votes on people he barely mentions for reasons that arent scum tells. And then HF twists my words to make me look bad. This isnt a town players day 1. Vivax and kush confirmed town both had HF as scum. Soon Onegu will be confirmwd town also and have HF as scum also. | ||
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On August 09 2014 05:13 Holyflare wrote: So practically your case states that i found ppl mafiaish and then decided they weren't mafiaish? No that you voted people you didnt find scummy as much as haru for nitpicky reasons or non scummy reasons. And then you twisted my words to say something I wasnt saying. | ||
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On August 09 2014 05:30 marvellosity wrote: Right I'm about to head out. I'm genuinely sorry if you're town, Onegu, but I just really don't think you are. If you are town then maybe you will learn to not make a meta case based off of 8+ month old info. But Im leaning scum on you also. | ||
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On August 08 2014 08:59 gobbledydook wrote: Thanks. I just wanted to be sure why the case on onegu is stronger than the case on poofter. It looks 100% legit to me, I can see the obvious similarities with his mafia play before. ##vote: onegu Did you even read those games or just the few quotes marv gave you? | ||
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On August 09 2014 05:38 Eden1892 wrote: this is actually the scummiest thing you've said all game fwiw i'm still not killing you tho Yeah and he wrote like the same thing when I caught im in time to die. | ||
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On August 09 2014 05:41 Holyflare wrote: Prove it Ok but you have like a 40 page filter that game. You said like get off me onegu I am so town this game its obvious. Ill find it moment. | ||
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On August 09 2014 05:44 justanothertownie wrote: What is your opinion on Obi, Haru and Poofter? Poofter I dont think is scum. Haru is possible is somehow HF isnt scum. And maybe they are bussing but not likely as haru did give me some scum vibes, but not likely bussing. Obi is null, but again not likely much to be scum. Eden and WoS are are my biggest town reads. | ||
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On August 09 2014 06:07 justanothertownie wrote: What about gobble? Null, he is someone you could switch with GK with future info. TBH I kinda put you in the same catagory. You have a largeish filter this game but much of it has been forgetable. | ||
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On August 09 2014 06:14 justanothertownie wrote: Why do people keep saying this bullshit?! Maybe you can forget in peace when you are lynched. I also don't like how many nullreads you present us since you claim to have read the whole thread. I gave you 3 scum reads and 2 strong town reads. And most of my nulls are sayiing most likely town. | ||
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On August 09 2014 06:16 justanothertownie wrote: I don't think this is a likely scenario. ok I flip town and anyone but Marv is shot N2. Thoughts? | ||
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On August 09 2014 06:18 Eden1892 wrote: the caveat "if there's a realistic chance he flips town" is important here The fact the case on me is based on 8+ month old meta, should give you guys a slightly bigger feeling of the chance of me flipping town. Broken record. | ||
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On August 09 2014 06:23 justanothertownie wrote: Why would your meta even change drastically? Im not talking drasticly, but some of the things like im not jokeing, or even about how I write my thoughts would change depending on a few things. Really the example marv gave on ## you should go read my filter from that game. I feel Marv isnt even telling my whole meta just bits and pieces he can use. | ||
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On August 09 2014 06:30 justanothertownie wrote: Well, you can't really expect him to post your whole filter, can you? The fact that he only posts examples also doesn't invalidade those. No but I do expect you to go check my filter from that game to confirm what he says if you are going to vote me based on a meta claim from that game. I said he was wrong I was caught by Marv that game from gameplay mistakes that Marv caught and should be able to catch again if I was scum, but he used a 100% meta case this game. Why? | ||
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On August 09 2014 06:43 Holyflare wrote: So why are you using a year old meta against me to begin with? Im not useing meta against you. I give examples of your play this game as scummy. | ||
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