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On August 06 2014 06:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:This. - Deflecting something Marv said, bringing up an awkward example where he asks how strong Marv's townreads are compared to me super townreading Wave (which I explained was a joke in the string of posts where he initially read it)
- List posts after saying he wouldn't bring up weak list posts on D1 as town because he doesn't view it as necessary.
- Hypocritical in how he accuses other people of unsubstantiated reads when he does the same himself.
- In the start, talking mostly about things outside of the game (HF has touched on this plenty)
look i even fixed your broken bbcode.
1. fail to see how that means he's scum
2. he did it begrudgingly because he was asked to
3. same as 2
4. who gives a fuck
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i wishyou were at a computer hf 
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hf you are townreading artanis and gobbles?
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On August 06 2014 07:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Are you finally townreading me Marv?
9 pages full of shit like this and a few select bad arguments.
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well marv is townreading you because you have 9 pages and it's terrible.
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he's seriously afk. that's all we know.
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This is gobbles scum meta: Misrepresenting townie actions to make them seem scummy.
Here's gobbles misrepresenting haru's mechanics discussion:+ Show Spoiler +On August 04 2014 21:21 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 20:57 Holyflare wrote:On August 04 2014 20:37 Holyflare wrote:Honestly though, Haru's filter is full of really really superficial stuff. "I think there's mafia in the people leading discussion" "i think this is how scum would be playing and this is how town should be playing" "poof/eden/hf came in with their words" On August 04 2014 19:35 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 19:30 marvellosity wrote:
Haru, why is Poofter in that random list of 3 when he just randomly came in, spouted some random stuff, and left again? What made you feel like he's the other 2? Why did Poofter make it in that list as opposed to anyone else? The 3 of them provided content for discussion. Pooft with his random reads, gk with his attacks and hf with his reads too. They steered the discussion into a serious one and like I said, I would not flinch if any of them 3 turned scum. it just seems really surface level and not like paying attention to the words people are saying back to this please went through haru's filter, not impressed. First there's quite a lot of defending wave from meta-scumread, where his argument is very awkward. Then there's his weird scumread on hf/gk/eden, which I still don't think makes sense, why would you suggest they are acting pro-town therefore are scum? By his logic we should lynch all the most vocal towns first to catch the 'hidden mafia', oh wait, nope they were all town, mafia is laughing to the bank. So what he has said is awkward, misleading, and hasn't actually said much of note. He's on my scumreads right now, but behind Artanis.
Here he misrepresents the reasons why Haru called someone scummy:
+ Show Spoiler +On August 05 2014 22:53 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 18:56 HaruRH wrote:
Artanis feels scummy for buddying with someone who had suspect entrance and suspect posts. Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 19:04 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 08:18 Eden1892 wrote:
I propose the following rule: If a majority of the members of the /towncircle agree to policy lynch someone, all members of the /towncircle must follow through on the policy lynch until the person who initially proposed it unvotes the target. ##Unvote
##Vote: Artanis Here he sheeps on Artanis. The post before the vote he says something really vague that isn't even necessarily correct. Then he votes Artanis without any reason other than basically other people voted too. No attempt to substantiate the vote. If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere.
Feel free to go through his filter and read the rest of his cases.
Here's a little preview:
Yep, not doing crap with reads, wishy washy and inconclusive, no promises given, throwing reads everywhere, 0 substantiation, not committing to any scumreads...guess who that is.
I know, it's the person flinging shit at seven people aka HaruRH.
yup generalized bullshit. and when he gets own to specifics, those specifics are lies.
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On August 06 2014 07:34 Holyflare wrote:
That quote entirely applies to haru though why is it "generalised bs"?
Well it applies to most anti town players. Anti town does not equal scum.
As scum, it's very easy to make generalized scumreads like that because you aren't pointing to specific evidence. All you have to do is say some buzzwords and gg u fooled marv.
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On August 06 2014 07:40 Holyflare wrote:
So what stops it being a towny who thinks all those things? Why is it only scummy to think someone being anti town is mafia?
Sometimes that stuff comes from townies. But GD has a total lack of what I consider townie indicative content. And when he does try to give specifics they are misrepresentations. And the generalize bullshit is easy for scum to do therefore it's scummy, even though it doesn't always 100% = scum.
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hf can you stfu about vivax right now, no offense, but it's really not the time for it. wait till night and try to consolidate your points against him IMO
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On August 05 2014 22:40 gobbledydook wrote:
To those who are saying im suspicious:
Every game I have played so far I was mafia.
Guess how much I know about playing town. I'm trying, but just that I'm not up to your standards doesn't mean I'm scum. You can also compare this game to my 2 scumgames to see the difference.
oh and then there is this lie, which he uses to excuse his scummy townplay
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he played town on other sites.
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you read his scumgame. he clearly knows what he is doing.
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marv you are missing the woods looking at a tree with vivax. is that how it goes? basically you are focusing on 1 little thing that isn't alignment indicative and missing the many demonstrations of townie thought process in his filter.
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On August 06 2014 08:09 Holyflare wrote:
So yeh i saw the gobbledy ninja vote on vivax after deadline so he's around and should probably explain himself
Also the obi hesitancy was really fucking strange
honk honk - sound a bus makes
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wanna update us on your artanis read real quick?
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On August 06 2014 11:01 iamperfection wrote:
Onegu replaces Artanis[Xp] effective right now
ah fuck
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marv are you familiar with hf's tryhard scumgames?
I think it's natural to townread him, because he's writing so much and he is giving reasoning. Except the quality of his reasoning is really poor which means he's scum.
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I often scum read hf incorrectly early game, but I always move to a town read as his reads mature. That hasn't happened this game.
Anyway I asked you if you are familiar with hfs try hard scum games. If you were, you could see that he is capable of this kind of activity and reasoning as scum
And I haven't mis read you in a long time. You arrogance is quite astounding that you ass hole lynch vivax to hide from yourself the fact that you were wrong and I was right.
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