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Eden1892
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On August 12 2014 12:47 goodkarma wrote: Like honestly who has done much this game at this point? What would you quantify as productive? We've collectively sheeped Marv days 1/2 and most of us have concluded that Poof/GD was a meaningless town/town bandwagon choice. The person we've sheeped is dead, and lynch three didn't tell much as far as I can see. Scum literally didn't have to do much of anything this game... So how does one find scum motivated behavior when scum didn't literally have to do anything? You don't. Trick question. You find people who aren't doing anything because they haven't had to the whole game and are caught like deer in headlights at LYLO now that the town is kicking it into extra gear. At the moment that's the three people - funny how that works out - who aren't doing casework to solve the game, aren't commenting on current happenings, aren't adding their own insights and don't really seem to care | ||
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The Obi "townread" thing is explained a couple pages back - read from p190 I think. If you don't find it by the time I return I'll dig it up. Tl;dr is I faked that to try to encourage him to fucking do something and he didn't do it so I retracted | ||
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Please say yes so I can go shamelessly apeshit with joy over solving this enigma of a game | ||
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Wave I get why you were hesitant on trusting people earlier, and sorry if I was pushin your buttons by continuing to bring it up, it's just that the townies DO have to find and trust each other since it's LYLO. Off the top of my head for Haru being scum: • Not playing the game at non-3p LYLO is a scum tell. In fact it's one of the few factors that distinguishes town from scum! At LYLO the game is drastically different due to a shift in town incentives: now the townies must be preoccupied with their own survival, as being mislynched = lose. The two major differences between town and scum is that scum can lynch anybody and win while town must hit specific people in sequence to win; and that scum have an extra day to play if they "lose" the first round of LYLO (or in this case two rounds). Both of these put all the pressure on town to figure it out and incentivize scum to wait and see where the winds blow. Therefore it is a scum tell and is a valid argument. • You can also basically PoE this game IMO. Wave you do believe Gobble is town right? If so then even just randomly Haru has 75% chance to be scum. In fact Wave as an aside what is your current scum team? • The unanimous vote on Haru isn't as scary as the one on Onegu d2 again because of incentives. Scum have strong incentive to bus a caught partner at LYLO because it doesn't directly hurt their position. With or without the partner they are equally close to winning: one ML away. Busing is the smartest move at LYLO when scum is caught. Of course this doesn't guarantee Haru is scum being bused but it does mean that the state of the wagon shouldn't be reason to reconsider. | ||
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• The mistrust. I don't feel like any of me/gobble/JAT are hard to trust as town reads right now. • The lack of reads. I don't know where your mind is at right now and it's alarming. • The (relative) absenteeism. Where you been brah? • The hesitance on Haru (although this mostly paranoia from the second bullet) | ||
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Argument is circular I know but I'm bringing it up to help show that the bus scenario is quite credible right now, just think about how those discussions would tend to go in scum QT and it makes total sense. | ||
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On August 13 2014 05:46 justanothertownie wrote: I don't think Waves paranoia is scummy btw. what is weird is how he just took a huge dump on my contributions today without showing what about them was "shitty". I do a little I just don't have the willpower to punish it when he's still at least trying. Not trying at LYLO is like #1 on my top 1024 list of pet peeves and super good heuristic IMO. But a combination of paranoia and indecisive questioning at LYLO is shady too imo. It's ok tho we have plenty of time to kill him later if my instinct on it being shady is right. Still killing Haru today as there's like no way this dude is town. It's as close to zero as I've ever seen in this game | ||
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On August 13 2014 05:50 justanothertownie wrote: Meh, maybe. I think that's a somewhat weak argument. More telling is that they both basically didn't comment on Haru before doing so. (Yes, I know gk said he would kill eden or Haru but that is basically it), Gk is the one I'm better with of the two (just not good enough to change course on probably). When did Obi decide Haru is scum? Like in a post somewhere ideally | ||
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Gobble please check in whenever you can as well so I can know whether we can yolo CFD if desired | ||
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On August 13 2014 05:54 justanothertownie wrote: I don't remember any post of him about that. He just voted in the voting thread. Fuuuuuuck I wish Gobble were here. Obi best lynch from this IMO. It makes sense for scum Obi to do this regardless of Haru's alignment and doesn't make sense for town Obi | ||
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I can't read through thread well on mobile. Forgot all about that | ||
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Please don't get mad Wave, just calmly reread the thread since LYLO started and please tell me that you objectively think that since LYLO you've been decidedly more active and open with your reads than gobble and JAT. From my standpoint you haven't been, which is where my worry comes from. Sorry that EODs are bad for you. | ||
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@Wave: You really gonna try to bluff? Lol. Pls dude I've been busting my fuckin ass all day - shit, all game, although I really dialed it up in the past 48 hrs - trying to figure this out. You can't seriously say that I'm in "pretend to have helped" territory right now. Save the ego BS and tell me what reads you have, IDC if they're not super solid I just want/need to know where your mind's at right now. You mentioned the reads by POE earlier, you got anything else? (if not that's actually totally ok POE is 100% valid at LYLO) @Haru no I gotta tell ya bro it's actually nothing like Melee Mini. For one you don't have a second head just shitting town all over the place, for another you were around more from what I recall and were more engaged in the thread. Where's the followthrough on any of the posts you made brah? @anybody did Obi really say he was sheeping his town reads? Lol missed that. Obi can you post those town reads for me as I am stupid | ||
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