yo cav we are not lynching jat tomorrow

do not do this please

stay focused and lynch someone more likely to be scum. you're getting mad and starting to tunnel on him and i'm almost positive he's town so please do not

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

August 11 2014 21:31 GMT

#3639

Obi I have 2 of JAT's 3 suspects and I think his case is good. Wrong on you (though I agree that the d1 vote was dodgy I don't think you're scum for it, shit happens), but generally good.

TBH right now you're doing what I've been on Holyflare's balls for doing the whole game which is overstating the strength of your objections beyond their actual value. You might not like JAT scumreading you and that's fine, I don't agree with it either, but you're being pretty ridiculous right now tbh. Can you not discuss the other aspects of his theory?

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

August 11 2014 21:34 GMT

#3641

IMO defensiveness per se isn't a scumtell, it's about the extent of that defensiveness. And I'm kinda with JAT here Obi, I don't understand the vociferousness of your objection. Obviously you don't agree that you're scum, no one expected you to agree with it.

What do you think about Haru and goodkarma being scum?

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

August 11 2014 21:36 GMT

#3642

Why did Holyflare disappear smh

I get that he doesn't want to argue with me about his alignment and that he wanted me to 'stop pushing my shitty case' so he 'can finish churning out his stuff with his remaining time.' Then he disappears for the rest of the night... after I stop pushing my case...

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

August 11 2014 21:37 GMT

#3645

^Confirmed town

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

August 11 2014 21:42 GMT

#3649

On August 12 2014 06:40 goodkarma wrote:

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Figure out how we're going to get UNANIMOUS town consensus each day, and then we'll talk.

Any effort on this game is wasted until you do.

If you're town, it starts with you doing something; I can't get a unanimous decision if I don't know wtf you want to do.

Come on, where's the passion, man? You had so much fun working with me before. What changed? It's not my alignment. Is it yours?

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

August 11 2014 21:52 GMT

#3654

We do that by getting people to post suspects lists and making cases and then discussing it from there. The same as we always would do... it's just a tighter requirement now than in Day 1.

I'm honestly not sure what more to tell you. I don't get your point at all. Sheeping a townie of potentially-dubious accuracy is just allowing the mafia to pick who to kill. Let's say for example that Holyflare IS town and I name him my primary suspect (as I have) and the mafia nightkills me. Everyone sheeps my dead wrong ass onto Holyflare and we lose. If the town is allowed to discuss the matter more thoroughly they might conclude I was wrong and pick the right target.

Even if we decided on "sheep dead townies" as a fallback option of last resort, what's the harm in discussing it out?

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

August 11 2014 21:54 GMT

#3657

On August 12 2014 06:50 goodkarma wrote:
As far as I'm concerned I'm the towniest one here. I'm literally trying to tell you your only chance of not losing this game 100%. But if you don't see it that way, lynch me first please. I want this game to be over.

You think it's a guaranteed loss if we do anything besides sheeping townies?

I can't believe that you believe that, goodkarma. Sorry dude. If you're town and we lose because we mislynch you then I'm sorry I brought the game to the point where you decided the best move was to roll over and get mislynched. But you're hitting all my "lynch me" buttons right now. Limited meta experience, incoherent argument, martyrdom, you're practically tying the noose around yourself.

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

August 11 2014 21:56 GMT

#3658

I just don't get why LYLO is so different. At LYLO-1 we needed to have (unanimous-1) consent to catch scum. You weren't worried about it then. The consequences weren't as dire, sure, but this drastic shift in policy is just utterly incoherent to me.