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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 21:17 GMT
#3628
He's gonna hate me like crazy for saying this JAT but I actually think this is more likely to come from town!Obi...

Reading something real quick
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 21:22 GMT
#3633
yo cav we are not lynching jat tomorrow

do not do this please

stay focused and lynch someone more likely to be scum. you're getting mad and starting to tunnel on him and i'm almost positive he's town so please do not
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 21:31 GMT
#3639
Obi I have 2 of JAT's 3 suspects and I think his case is good. Wrong on you (though I agree that the d1 vote was dodgy I don't think you're scum for it, shit happens), but generally good.

TBH right now you're doing what I've been on Holyflare's balls for doing the whole game which is overstating the strength of your objections beyond their actual value. You might not like JAT scumreading you and that's fine, I don't agree with it either, but you're being pretty ridiculous right now tbh. Can you not discuss the other aspects of his theory?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 21:34 GMT
#3641
IMO defensiveness per se isn't a scumtell, it's about the extent of that defensiveness. And I'm kinda with JAT here Obi, I don't understand the vociferousness of your objection. Obviously you don't agree that you're scum, no one expected you to agree with it.

What do you think about Haru and goodkarma being scum?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 21:36 GMT
#3642
Why did Holyflare disappear smh

I get that he doesn't want to argue with me about his alignment and that he wanted me to 'stop pushing my shitty case' so he 'can finish churning out his stuff with his remaining time.' Then he disappears for the rest of the night... after I stop pushing my case...
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 21:37 GMT
#3645
^Confirmed town
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 21:42 GMT
#3649
On August 12 2014 06:40 goodkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 06:01 Eden1892 wrote:
On August 12 2014 05:49 goodkarma wrote:
On August 12 2014 05:45 Eden1892 wrote:
Any strong reason why it has to be? Not really.

With specific respect to CaviwanShinobinho I guess I have the same reservations with him as you have with Holyflare, I see where he looks scummy but on a couple of occasions he's said exactly what I've been thinking at the same time as I've been thinking it

As far as the LYLO apathy goes... I can't really coherently argue against it, because if anyone is going to be relatively uninterested or not invested in the outcome at 7p LYLO it's scum, but at the same time it just... feels too easy I guess? Like it's weird that all 3 scum would all just happen to be the three people who seem not to give a fuck at LYLO. I would expect at least one of them to give a shit still.

Again there isn't a strong reason why this must be wrong, it just feels too easy and obvious for a game in which we've struggled so mightily. But that doesn't mean it's wrong, either.


That, or town that can't be bothered to tryhard in an almost certainly lost game, but I digress... Carry on.

Hey, that's enough of that from you, bro. You weren't all Debbie Downer like this in Melee Mini at ALL! Sure you chilled in the back while I did the talking but you had a bunch of good ideas and really helped me refine my thought process, and never ONCE were you half as pessimistic about our odds as you are now. What happened since then? You saw how quick we pulled that win out? In the span of 12 hours we went from almost lynching a parity cop to pinning a mafia and forcing the other one to concede. CONCEDE! Now we got twice as long to find one mafia and give us some more time and you just wanna quit?

Come on!


Figure out how we're going to get UNANIMOUS town consensus each day, and then we'll talk.

Any effort on this game is wasted until you do.

If you're town, it starts with you doing something; I can't get a unanimous decision if I don't know wtf you want to do.

Come on, where's the passion, man? You had so much fun working with me before. What changed? It's not my alignment. Is it yours?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 21:52 GMT
#3654
We do that by getting people to post suspects lists and making cases and then discussing it from there. The same as we always would do... it's just a tighter requirement now than in Day 1.

I'm honestly not sure what more to tell you. I don't get your point at all. Sheeping a townie of potentially-dubious accuracy is just allowing the mafia to pick who to kill. Let's say for example that Holyflare IS town and I name him my primary suspect (as I have) and the mafia nightkills me. Everyone sheeps my dead wrong ass onto Holyflare and we lose. If the town is allowed to discuss the matter more thoroughly they might conclude I was wrong and pick the right target.

Even if we decided on "sheep dead townies" as a fallback option of last resort, what's the harm in discussing it out?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 21:54 GMT
#3657
On August 12 2014 06:50 goodkarma wrote:
As far as I'm concerned I'm the towniest one here. I'm literally trying to tell you your only chance of not losing this game 100%. But if you don't see it that way, lynch me first please. I want this game to be over.

You think it's a guaranteed loss if we do anything besides sheeping townies?

I can't believe that you believe that, goodkarma. Sorry dude. If you're town and we lose because we mislynch you then I'm sorry I brought the game to the point where you decided the best move was to roll over and get mislynched. But you're hitting all my "lynch me" buttons right now. Limited meta experience, incoherent argument, martyrdom, you're practically tying the noose around yourself.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 21:56 GMT
#3658
I just don't get why LYLO is so different. At LYLO-1 we needed to have (unanimous-1) consent to catch scum. You weren't worried about it then. The consequences weren't as dire, sure, but this drastic shift in policy is just utterly incoherent to me.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 21:57 GMT
#3660
At LYLO though?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 21:57 GMT
#3661
I would agree with that in normal circumstances, but at (non-3p) LYLO only one party can get away with martyrdom.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 22:02 GMT
#3664
Eh I agree with Obi here, just not at non-3p LYLO
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 22:16 GMT
#3671
wave can you please get online before eod
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 22:16 GMT
#3672
holyflare too
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 22:19 GMT
#3673
Obi what are your reads
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 22:19 GMT
#3674
Haru where are you
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 22:20 GMT
#3675
same with gobble
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 22:26 GMT
#3677
sorry you rolled scum with Holyflare bro, it must be fucking annoying to be soft-pushed by your ride-or-die homie all game
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 22:26 GMT
#3678
600
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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