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Every single person has haru and obi in their scum list, haru afk's entire lylo after posting nothing but bad things and then switches to obi at which point EVERYONE FOLLOWS HIM. I hope people read how retarded this is when the game ends,
lulz
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it's not a fucking secret or trap and it wasn't retarded. I posted nothing at night because if i died then a high profile towny would be mafia (eden because he went balls to the wall attacking me for shit)
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On August 13 2014 08:04 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 08:03 Holyflare wrote:
it's not a fucking secret or trap and it wasn't retarded. I posted nothing at night because if i died then a high profile towny would be mafia (eden because he went balls to the wall attacking me for shit) It was absolutely impossible for eden to be scum.
yes but he was being a twat and i was mad but jat should have been equally implicated
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also nobody listened to obi and he was spot on, jat's night analysis was the worst thing i've ever seen :o!
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but wp to jat though deserves belt entirely
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lol no it wasn't really because all you had to do was point out how defensive i was this game and i was town
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On August 13 2014 08:07 WaveofShadow wrote:
There are definitely some lessons to learn from this game.
I dunno waht they are offhand though lol
wow obs qt was also spectacularly wrong. Did we actually play that well? 'Cause I honestly didn't think so.
i think it was very helpful that there were a lot of afk peripheral townies doing nothing 
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On August 13 2014 08:09 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 08:08 Holyflare wrote:On August 13 2014 08:07 WaveofShadow wrote:
There are definitely some lessons to learn from this game.
I dunno waht they are offhand though lol
wow obs qt was also spectacularly wrong. Did we actually play that well? 'Cause I honestly didn't think so. i think it was very helpful that there were a lot of afk peripheral townies doing nothing like seriously how was goodkarma town I don't even
i gave you meta evidence about 100 times that you should have listened to
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man my wave meta was on point!
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On August 13 2014 08:12 WaveofShadow wrote:No, marv's was on point. Yours was still sorta wrong, I did that shit ALL the time as town, it just so happen you have a very recent mafia game to look at. And again, I still absolutely love playing scum. I gotta find that marv post. Scared the shit out of me.
no i looked at the past 10 of your games and none of them said the same thing that you did here in the way that you said it
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nk'ing me was the best call 
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On August 13 2014 08:14 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 08:12 gobbledydook wrote:
To be fair, if every town was holyflare/eden/kush/marv level active town mafia wouldn't have a chance in hell. don't look at personality mafia
or shadow mafia
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next game hopefully i won't be on a phone the entire game!
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but yeh 24h days even though i knew about them ages ago but forgot really helped mafia a lot
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On August 13 2014 11:15 kushm4sta wrote:
fuck you for killing me n1 when all my reads were wrong
3 posts to go
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On August 13 2014 23:34 Eden1892 wrote:
So what did I need to do differently/better this game? I have my list but I want external feedback. My list:
• Post less. I'm always gonna be an active poster but there wasn't any need or use for that many. Diminishing returns are real, I lost/forgot/changed my mind a bunch without explaining my reasoning and it's because I posted too much and overloaded myself. Literally gave myself long-term memory loss this game lmao
• Push more. It's my town game bottom line. This stems from the previous point; I couldn't keep up with my own thought process and that made it impossible to push my reads. I sheeped way too much because I couldn't keep up with myself.
• Trust instincts more! They mostly failed me at LYLO but I feel like if I'd listened to myself more before then and pushed then we wouldn't be in LYLO.
I don't think you need to push more that's for sure  You pushed nothing but me over and over again and it made it hard to kind of get on track to do other things just to disprove every bit of confirmation bias, I mean the best way to look at it is to see who is pushing things that make sense and knows what's going on in the game and who is sitting back and posting things that make no sense whatsoever: i.e. Wave when he returned calling me out for sheeping (when i didn't) and haru pushing gobble with nothing scummy in his push etc.
I dunno, it just comes from experience I guess because at lylo the entire scum team suddenly had massive amounts of free time on a weekday when they've been "busy" the whole game and started pushing a massive agenda to get one player lynched instead of looking analytically at everyone.
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On August 14 2014 02:09 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2014 01:39 Holyflare wrote:On August 13 2014 23:34 Eden1892 wrote:
So what did I need to do differently/better this game? I have my list but I want external feedback. My list:
• Post less. I'm always gonna be an active poster but there wasn't any need or use for that many. Diminishing returns are real, I lost/forgot/changed my mind a bunch without explaining my reasoning and it's because I posted too much and overloaded myself. Literally gave myself long-term memory loss this game lmao
• Push more. It's my town game bottom line. This stems from the previous point; I couldn't keep up with my own thought process and that made it impossible to push my reads. I sheeped way too much because I couldn't keep up with myself.
• Trust instincts more! They mostly failed me at LYLO but I feel like if I'd listened to myself more before then and pushed then we wouldn't be in LYLO. I don't think you need to push more that's for sure You pushed nothing but me over and over again and it made it hard to kind of get on track to do other things just to disprove every bit of confirmation bias, I mean the best way to look at it is to see who is pushing things that make sense and knows what's going on in the game and who is sitting back and posting things that make no sense whatsoever: i.e. Wave when he returned calling me out for sheeping (when i didn't) and haru pushing gobble with nothing scummy in his push etc. I dunno, it just comes from experience I guess because at lylo the entire scum team suddenly had massive amounts of free time on a weekday when they've been "busy" the whole game and started pushing a massive agenda to get one player lynched instead of looking analytically at everyone. I was actually busy for the record, I just managed to get time off for LYLO Also my cases against you were SO BAD I didn't even read the friggin thread when I posted that first one about you sheeping, then I had to go back and try to make it make at least some sense....good lord marv I am disappoint. I think that's three times I've beaten you :D
i was way too lenient on you
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On August 14 2014 03:16 Eden1892 wrote:
@Hf I think if I push other leads more I escape the tunnel on you. "Push more" means "push more leads" not "push my one lead harder" lol. I agree that I pushed you way too hard and pushing you further would be worse.
@everyone: Is "kill people who don't try at LYLO" a good heuristic? Because I feel like rationally it is but empirically it may not be. I spelled out the logic in the thread and I think it holds, but obviously it was a flop this game and idk if it's a flop more generally
Well yeh that's what i was trying to do. Push everything that looks scummy then get them to explain. It's good if they don't make sense prob mafia.
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Just never focus on what anyone says in lylo and instead look at their agendas and play in the game
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Almost every lylo I've been in the mafia tries 10x harder and the town don't really
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