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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 07 2014 21:54 GMT
#2441
On August 08 2014 06:53 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2014 06:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 08 2014 06:40 Tehpoofter wrote:
For what Its worth I think the Obi lynch is dumpster tier.

Explain.


His ease of talking early on seemed townie to me. He didn't seem afraid to post day 1.

He also wouldn't give us as much information as someone like Haru or Goobly. Haru being a wagon switched off late yesterday adn Goobly being my biggest scum read (::cough:: I'm totally not impartial ::cough:

On August 08 2014 06:53 Tehpoofter wrote:
He also wouldn't give us as much information as someone like Haru or Goobly.

On August 08 2014 06:53 Tehpoofter wrote:
wouldn't give us as much information

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“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 07 2014 21:57 GMT
#2442
Fuck it, I'll entertain it anyway.

If Obi is scum, all three D1 wagons are town. He was obviously worried about looking sketchy for hopping on a town wagon late. If one of his teammates were up for a lynch he would already have been pushing to get the other wagon lynched.

How's that for information?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
August 07 2014 21:57 GMT
#2443
On August 08 2014 06:53 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2014 06:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 08 2014 06:40 Tehpoofter wrote:
For what Its worth I think the Obi lynch is dumpster tier.

Explain.


His ease of talking early on seemed townie to me. He didn't seem afraid to post day 1.

He also wouldn't give us as much information as someone like Haru or Goobly. Haru being a wagon switched off late yesterday adn Goobly being my biggest scum read (::cough:: I'm totally not impartial ::cough:

This hardly warrants you calling this lynch dumpster tier. Especially since you didn't even consider what Eden just said.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 21:58 GMT
#2444
On August 08 2014 06:53 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2014 06:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 08 2014 06:40 Tehpoofter wrote:
For what Its worth I think the Obi lynch is dumpster tier.

Explain.


His ease of talking early on seemed townie to me. He didn't seem afraid to post day 1.

He also wouldn't give us as much information as someone like Haru or Goobly. Haru being a wagon switched off late yesterday adn Goobly being my biggest scum read (::cough:: I'm totally not impartial ::cough:

this does not address in any way what eden brought up.

now explain what obi did that eden brought up.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 21:58 GMT
#2445
btw I think Haru might be town, based on something experimental i'm doing.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 07 2014 21:59 GMT
#2446
On August 08 2014 04:12 Eden1892 wrote:
marv when will i break into the power rankings

“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 07 2014 21:59 GMT
#2447
On August 08 2014 06:58 marvellosity wrote:
btw I think Haru might be town, based on something experimental i'm doing.

Merciful Based God Thank You
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 07 2014 22:00 GMT
#2448
will explain shortly, need to nip home and finish checking up.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 07 2014 22:01 GMT
#2449
On August 08 2014 06:44 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2014 06:40 Tehpoofter wrote:
On August 08 2014 06:22 Eden1892 wrote:
On August 08 2014 06:13 Tehpoofter wrote:
On August 08 2014 05:52 Eden1892 wrote:
Poofter, summarize your case on gooblegobblegooblegobble.

No peeking at the filter or the thread, as soon as you see this post it. I know you're online so if you don't answer in 5 minutes from this being posted then I'm going to assume you don't have one.

1) Shit accusation of me that was scummy for multiple reasons I immediately pointed out
2) Very pure wagon on him Me you Kush Vivax really close to EoD Maifa could have hoped on that ez pz
3) He was around at EoD but didn't talk and had time to vote though. Weird and shit.
4) His contributions haven't been anything to note imo

In order:

• I found the case you made. It's ok I guess, I find myself shrugging but at the same time I can't actually argue against it.
• Big question though. Why would they? Haru was the lead wagon at/around EOD. Unless Haru is also scum there's no incentive for the mafia to piledrive him at EOD. Plus even if they did, gobble flipping town would point the finger squarely at the people who sheeped onto him instead of the people that drove him.
• That wasn't my impression of the sequence of events though...
• Sure and it's a reason to kill him, but it's a reason to kill half the game right now, which is why I'm having trouble with this.


you think thats the case? I'd be pretty easy to toss scum on vivax got lynched so enough town thought he was mafia so like They could have easily jumped on. Mafia is always going to jump on a lynch and I agree on Haru. I'm okay with flipping him today if he flips scum that could be INSANELY good information if he flips town then not as much info but still info.

It wasn't a case btw it was a brief synopsis.

What was your impression cause thats what I got from being there.

The 4th is a reason to compound upon the first 3.

For what Its worth I think the Obi lynch is dumpster tier.

I assume this is the case: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463513-world-heavyweight-championship-mafia-iii?page=44#874
If it's something else my b pls link

Why would mafia "always jump on a lynch"? I actually don't even understand everything after your question "thats the case?" so... I don't know how to reply to this LOL Please restate everything from "I'd be" to "still info."

My impression was that he got online near EOD, quickly skimmed to see what was going on because Vivax was the lynch all of a sudden, and then moved vote to avoid an NL. I wasn't online and so normally I would defer, but no one(?) (I think) else has said that gobble was lurking at EOD just that he made a ninja vote at the last second. Idk someone else that was on at EOD (MARV) help me out on this, this just wasn't my impression and if Poof is right here that matters

And what's dumpster tier about obi lynch?



haha that sentence was a train wreck I was typing it between phone calls.I meant to say "It would be ease to throw scum on vivax for a goobly lynch if he was town. (Seeing as vivax already got lynched yesterday enough people thought he was scummy and or an asshole) Then myself who people find scummy thus 2 town mafia could have "framed" for a bad kill on goobly should he actually be town. (I should proof read more)

Obi is bad for what I said below. Maybe not dumpster tier but I don't like it.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 07 2014 22:02 GMT
#2450
Obi is bad for what I said below. Maybe not dumpster tier but I don't like it.

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“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 07 2014 22:03 GMT
#2451
On August 08 2014 06:49 Eden1892 wrote:
Seriously though I'm not even exaggerating, Obi says with 45 mins before EOD that "today is a miss" (i.e. both candidates are definitely town) but then at 5 minutes says he won't switch because Vivax is guaranteed to be town and that we should figure out which of the two people he just said are townies should be lynched.

If you're sure both Haru and gobble are town, you switch onto Vivax there every single time without hesitation IMO, worst case is he's also town and you get the same result (an ML), but you have to consolidate there to avoid forcing an NL. You certainly don't say "Well I think Vivax is definitely town so we should figure out which of the two people I just called town we're lynching instead." All that does is hinder consolidation and risk not getting a lynch at all.


I'll say that this isn't the worst read ever. I'll see if I can find the today is a miss thing when I'm done with marv.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
August 07 2014 22:03 GMT
#2452
On August 08 2014 07:00 marvellosity wrote:
will explain shortly, need to nip home and finish checking up.

I really want to know what it is that could make you townread Haru.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 07 2014 22:05 GMT
#2453
On August 08 2014 06:57 Eden1892 wrote:
Fuck it, I'll entertain it anyway.

If Obi is scum, all three D1 wagons are town. He was obviously worried about looking sketchy for hopping on a town wagon late. If one of his teammates were up for a lynch he would already have been pushing to get the other wagon lynched.

How's that for information?


That is pretty okay info. What do we learn if Obi flips town though? Aside from that he says weird as shit as town (spoilers he does that)
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 07 2014 22:05 GMT
#2454
On August 08 2014 07:01 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2014 06:44 Eden1892 wrote:
On August 08 2014 06:40 Tehpoofter wrote:
On August 08 2014 06:22 Eden1892 wrote:
On August 08 2014 06:13 Tehpoofter wrote:
On August 08 2014 05:52 Eden1892 wrote:
Poofter, summarize your case on gooblegobblegooblegobble.

No peeking at the filter or the thread, as soon as you see this post it. I know you're online so if you don't answer in 5 minutes from this being posted then I'm going to assume you don't have one.

1) Shit accusation of me that was scummy for multiple reasons I immediately pointed out
2) Very pure wagon on him Me you Kush Vivax really close to EoD Maifa could have hoped on that ez pz
3) He was around at EoD but didn't talk and had time to vote though. Weird and shit.
4) His contributions haven't been anything to note imo

In order:

• I found the case you made. It's ok I guess, I find myself shrugging but at the same time I can't actually argue against it.
• Big question though. Why would they? Haru was the lead wagon at/around EOD. Unless Haru is also scum there's no incentive for the mafia to piledrive him at EOD. Plus even if they did, gobble flipping town would point the finger squarely at the people who sheeped onto him instead of the people that drove him.
• That wasn't my impression of the sequence of events though...
• Sure and it's a reason to kill him, but it's a reason to kill half the game right now, which is why I'm having trouble with this.


you think thats the case? I'd be pretty easy to toss scum on vivax got lynched so enough town thought he was mafia so like They could have easily jumped on. Mafia is always going to jump on a lynch and I agree on Haru. I'm okay with flipping him today if he flips scum that could be INSANELY good information if he flips town then not as much info but still info.

It wasn't a case btw it was a brief synopsis.

What was your impression cause thats what I got from being there.

The 4th is a reason to compound upon the first 3.

For what Its worth I think the Obi lynch is dumpster tier.

I assume this is the case: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463513-world-heavyweight-championship-mafia-iii?page=44#874
If it's something else my b pls link

Why would mafia "always jump on a lynch"? I actually don't even understand everything after your question "thats the case?" so... I don't know how to reply to this LOL Please restate everything from "I'd be" to "still info."

My impression was that he got online near EOD, quickly skimmed to see what was going on because Vivax was the lynch all of a sudden, and then moved vote to avoid an NL. I wasn't online and so normally I would defer, but no one(?) (I think) else has said that gobble was lurking at EOD just that he made a ninja vote at the last second. Idk someone else that was on at EOD (MARV) help me out on this, this just wasn't my impression and if Poof is right here that matters

And what's dumpster tier about obi lynch?

haha that sentence was a train wreck I was typing it between phone calls.I meant to say "It would be ease to throw scum on vivax for a goobly lynch if he was town. (Seeing as vivax already got lynched yesterday enough people thought he was scummy and or an asshole) Then myself who people find scummy thus 2 town mafia could have "framed" for a bad kill on goobly should he actually be town. (I should proof read more)

OK maybe, but why couldn't they do that with the Vivax lynch? In fact if this would be so effective why aren't they now? (and if they are, where are they doing it?)

You're saying in effect "if gobble were town the mafia could have done X, and therefore since they didn't do X, gobble is definitely scum." You can't consider the original premise a conditional and then extrapolate a guaranteed contrapositive statement like that. This only holds if you're arguing that if gobble were town, the mafia definitely would have done what you're saying they could've done. And I see no reason to assume this.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 07 2014 22:07 GMT
#2455
On August 08 2014 07:05 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2014 06:57 Eden1892 wrote:
Fuck it, I'll entertain it anyway.

If Obi is scum, all three D1 wagons are town. He was obviously worried about looking sketchy for hopping on a town wagon late. If one of his teammates were up for a lynch he would already have been pushing to get the other wagon lynched.

How's that for information?


That is pretty okay info. What do we learn if Obi flips town though? Aside from that he says weird as shit as town (spoilers he does that)

Oh come on, you know my belief on that.

On July 13 2014 07:09 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 07:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Also, if Slamroot flips town, tell me, what information will we gain from it?

none

as with every town lynch ever
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 07 2014 22:08 GMT
#2456
On August 08 2014 07:03 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2014 06:49 Eden1892 wrote:
Seriously though I'm not even exaggerating, Obi says with 45 mins before EOD that "today is a miss" (i.e. both candidates are definitely town) but then at 5 minutes says he won't switch because Vivax is guaranteed to be town and that we should figure out which of the two people he just said are townies should be lynched.

If you're sure both Haru and gobble are town, you switch onto Vivax there every single time without hesitation IMO, worst case is he's also town and you get the same result (an ML), but you have to consolidate there to avoid forcing an NL. You certainly don't say "Well I think Vivax is definitely town so we should figure out which of the two people I just called town we're lynching instead." All that does is hinder consolidation and risk not getting a lynch at all.


I'll say that this isn't the worst read ever. I'll see if I can find the today is a miss thing when I'm done with marv.

omfg are you even listening?! i will beat your fingers with a roller

i just posted it ten minutes ago
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 07 2014 22:10 GMT
#2457
** rolling pin

i'm not evil just frustrated
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 07 2014 22:18 GMT
#2458
On August 08 2014 06:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2014 06:53 Tehpoofter wrote:
On August 08 2014 06:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 08 2014 06:40 Tehpoofter wrote:
For what Its worth I think the Obi lynch is dumpster tier.

Explain.


His ease of talking early on seemed townie to me. He didn't seem afraid to post day 1.

He also wouldn't give us as much information as someone like Haru or Goobly. Haru being a wagon switched off late yesterday adn Goobly being my biggest scum read (::cough:: I'm totally not impartial ::cough:

This hardly warrants you calling this lynch dumpster tier. Especially since you didn't even consider what Eden just said.


I admit his point about if he is scum it looks really good for haru/goobly. I just disagree. Dumpster tier I like the phrase so I used it. His point about if obi flips scum is pretty decent and obi would spew that hard as scum I think. I still think Goobly or Haru is better I'm interested in their reappearances to thread (all three tbh)
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 07 2014 22:18 GMT
#2459
Why do you motherfuckers all go Adkins whenever I get a good idea

Fuck

Can I just be given the power to vote for all 11 players in the game right now?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 07 2014 22:20 GMT
#2460
** to vote on behalf of all 11
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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