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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 03 2014 14:28 GMT
#1211
Time to reevaluate my reads...
I am town. I repeat; I am town!
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 03 2014 22:46 GMT
#1214
On August 04 2014 06:26 Tehpoofter wrote:
Rip MeatPu$$y.


This game is silly. I have an idea of who I think it is....

before I go into can people give where they stand? Especially GB Teemu Seeya? Like those 3 should really talk about who they think the next kill is and why.


I am completely lost. I could've bet my life on meatpudding being mafia. I'm glad I didn't.

Poof, I do know it I should take the day1 vote counts in consideration. I would bet mafia could be you, but that wouldn't make sense considering day1 votes. Agh.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 03 2014 23:07 GMT
#1216
On August 04 2014 07:52 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 07:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 04 2014 06:26 Tehpoofter wrote:
Rip MeatPu$$y.


This game is silly. I have an idea of who I think it is....

before I go into can people give where they stand? Especially GB Teemu Seeya? Like those 3 should really talk about who they think the next kill is and why.


I am completely lost. I could've bet my life on meatpudding being mafia. I'm glad I didn't.

Poof, I do know it I should take the day1 vote counts in consideration. I would bet mafia could be you, but that wouldn't make sense considering day1 votes. Agh.


Just breathe. I'm going to tell you whose mafia later.


Tell me what you think of people that could be mafia plz .


I'll have to filter dive everybody to update my reads. I'm keeping the ones I've brought previously about lil and cya. I have this scum tell on you because of your cases day2.

I have no idea what to tell of Teemu and Tolkien. But Teemu voted for meatpudding day1, which puts him on my list of suspects.

I think that whoever is mafia, he is probably playing very townie like for us to be so confused...
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 03 2014 23:10 GMT
#1217
Btw, this game is making me sad.. Activity level is so low...
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 04 2014 02:04 GMT
#1221
Poof I'm finally back home, now I can give all of myself to the hunt
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 04 2014 02:43 GMT
#1225
I'd love to understand what people have against me other than my silly posts on night one and the early case on day1
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 04 2014 15:06 GMT
#1243
LMAO
Thank god for killing Teemu, poof! You've made it easier
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 04 2014 15:32 GMT
#1244
People, don't jump on Seeyalater yet!!
It is really possible that mafia narrowed our paths on purpose so we mislynch Seeyalater. Why would be, as mafia, narrow our votes by killing Teemu and letting the last voter alive? The voter that poofter brought a huge case AT NIGHT?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 04 2014 16:22 GMT
#1245
Poof, I read through your case and I think you bring few fair arguments. There are some irrelevant posts in you case tbh. His posts makes more sense when you read him from a noob townie mindset than from a scum mindset.

Tolkien, I read your posts and we should dive lilwade, and he needs to speak more.
So, lilwade, I'll keep a vote on you until you tell me these: who is your top scum read and why, and hat do you think of the case poof brought?
##Vote: lilwade

Ok, from the way I see, night kill has got these scenarios:
1) killed at random while mafia was choosing for the most townie.
2) killed on purpose so we have no doubt in who to push considering vote counts day1 (Teemu and Seeyalater left their votes meatpudding fay1; mafia was probably there; Teemu is vt; therefore, Seeyalater is mafia). Poof is the key suspicious for his bit case on Seeyalater night1 but it could be anybody.
3) WIFOM - considering number 2, and considering people probably getting fast into that conclusion, Seeyalater is mafia and killed Teemu trying to shift attention from him

What do you think?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 04 2014 18:18 GMT
#1246
Are we really playing this game? Because it seems that poof is the only one playing. Can you people get to post already???
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 04 2014 20:28 GMT
#1250
Seeyalater, actually, the part where you make a list and let 666 in blank looks like a slip. Can you explain that to me?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 04 2014 21:05 GMT
#1252
I understand. I don't believe you but I understand.
Ok, I want your opinions on the scenarios I've brought. I want you people to tell me more before I filter dive the remaining players. I'm going to wreck mafia today.

Please, Seeyalater, poof, Tolkien, lilwade, give me opinions on those scenarios.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 04 2014 22:14 GMT
#1255
On August 05 2014 06:48 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 01:22 GlowingBear wrote:
Poof, I read through your case and I think you bring few fair arguments. There are some irrelevant posts in you case tbh. His posts makes more sense when you read him from a noob townie mindset than from a scum mindset.

Tolkien, I read your posts and we should dive lilwade, and he needs to speak more.
So, lilwade, I'll keep a vote on you until you tell me these: who is your top scum read and why, and hat do you think of the case poof brought?
##Vote: lilwade

It's rather frustrating for me since I want to read him more solidly, but his paucity of posts D2 onwards makes it nearly impossible for me to say anything. Was trying to see if I could coax more posts out of him D2 for a more solid D3 read, but nope.


Show nested quote +
Ok, from the way I see, night kill has got these scenarios:
1) killed at random while mafia was choosing for the most townie.
2) killed on purpose so we have no doubt in who to push considering vote counts day1 (Teemu and Seeyalater left their votes meatpudding fay1; mafia was probably there; Teemu is vt; therefore, Seeyalater is mafia). Poof is the key suspicious for his bit case on Seeyalater night1 but it could be anybody.
3) WIFOM - considering number 2, and considering people probably getting fast into that conclusion, Seeyalater is mafia and killed Teemu trying to shift attention from him

What do you think?

1) Mafia rarely kills at random. There's usually some logic behind it.

However, you should NOT let night kills influence your decisions regarding who is scum, because of aforementioned wifom. It could be for any reason from Teemu starting to look town in everyone's eyes, they thought he was blue, "let's confuse town", to let's make town think XXX is town/scum.

Again, evaluate a case on it's merits, not on unknown speculation for now.


I continue to disagree about where the vote for mafia was D1 (hence why I was looking at lilwade as probably scum D2), but I'm kinda reluctantly going to have to agree that cya is the "best" case right now, though I really do not want us to have just one bandwagon.


Sure. But you think that considering those scenarios is WIFOMing? I'm not asking if I should let it influence my reads, I'm asking if you don't believe that mafia could've used that logic.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 05 2014 00:07 GMT
#1257
On August 05 2014 08:51 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 07:14 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 05 2014 06:48 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On August 05 2014 01:22 GlowingBear wrote:
Poof, I read through your case and I think you bring few fair arguments. There are some irrelevant posts in you case tbh. His posts makes more sense when you read him from a noob townie mindset than from a scum mindset.

Tolkien, I read your posts and we should dive lilwade, and he needs to speak more.
So, lilwade, I'll keep a vote on you until you tell me these: who is your top scum read and why, and hat do you think of the case poof brought?
##Vote: lilwade

It's rather frustrating for me since I want to read him more solidly, but his paucity of posts D2 onwards makes it nearly impossible for me to say anything. Was trying to see if I could coax more posts out of him D2 for a more solid D3 read, but nope.


Ok, from the way I see, night kill has got these scenarios:
1) killed at random while mafia was choosing for the most townie.
2) killed on purpose so we have no doubt in who to push considering vote counts day1 (Teemu and Seeyalater left their votes meatpudding fay1; mafia was probably there; Teemu is vt; therefore, Seeyalater is mafia). Poof is the key suspicious for his bit case on Seeyalater night1 but it could be anybody.
3) WIFOM - considering number 2, and considering people probably getting fast into that conclusion, Seeyalater is mafia and killed Teemu trying to shift attention from him

What do you think?

1) Mafia rarely kills at random. There's usually some logic behind it.

However, you should NOT let night kills influence your decisions regarding who is scum, because of aforementioned wifom. It could be for any reason from Teemu starting to look town in everyone's eyes, they thought he was blue, "let's confuse town", to let's make town think XXX is town/scum.

Again, evaluate a case on it's merits, not on unknown speculation for now.


I continue to disagree about where the vote for mafia was D1 (hence why I was looking at lilwade as probably scum D2), but I'm kinda reluctantly going to have to agree that cya is the "best" case right now, though I really do not want us to have just one bandwagon.


Sure. But you think that considering those scenarios is WIFOMing? I'm not asking if I should let it influence my reads, I'm asking if you don't believe that mafia could've used that logic.

Fair enough.

1) plausible
2) plausible
3) plausible

The issue is it doesn't help us actually make any major reads so...


It helps when we get mafia talking about it without avoiding analysing in-depth. We could get information from everybody's answer.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 05 2014 02:30 GMT
#1261
On August 05 2014 11:16 Seeyalater wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 01:22 GlowingBear wrote:
Poof, I read through your case and I think you bring few fair arguments. There are some irrelevant posts in you case tbh. His posts makes more sense when you read him from a noob townie mindset than from a scum mindset.

Tolkien, I read your posts and we should dive lilwade, and he needs to speak more.
So, lilwade, I'll keep a vote on you until you tell me these: who is your top scum read and why, and hat do you think of the case poof brought?
##Vote: lilwade

Ok, from the way I see, night kill has got these scenarios:
1) killed at random while mafia was choosing for the most townie.
2) killed on purpose so we have no doubt in who to push considering vote counts day1 (Teemu and Seeyalater left their votes meatpudding fay1; mafia was probably there; Teemu is vt; therefore, Seeyalater is mafia). Poof is the key suspicious for his bit case on Seeyalater night1 but it could be anybody.
3) WIFOM - considering number 2, and considering people probably getting fast into that conclusion, Seeyalater is mafia and killed Teemu trying to shift attention from him

What do you think?

1) After what Jenny said(and was right on MP), I'm not sure it was a random kill.

2) From what I understand you're trying to say, killing teemu would be a terrible idea by me, as people have been saying there's a mafia between one of us a couple times since MP was mislynched.

3) I think this is the most obvious choice here. Still not 100% sure what the WIFOM thing means, but it does seem like Jenny and teemu shared some similar thoughts(on me, tolkien, poof at least).




Second is the most obvious choice and you were right on what I said. Third scenario is you being mafia, though. So, if you prefer the third scenario, I have bad news for you.

To be honest, I feel you more as a newbie townie than mafia. You have been really active and putting a lot of effort. It's possible to scum read you but I'm doubting, right now, that you are mafia.

I want wade to talk. I feel poof can be our mafia, I was wondering why killing Teemu and not poof. It really doesn't make sense. I also don't like the way Tolkien answered my scenarios but that's another case.
Mostly, we need wade to be more active. He looks just like he is waiting for us to kill ourselves, and that is looking bad for him. I suggest you join my wagon.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 05 2014 03:01 GMT
#1264
On August 05 2014 11:49 lilwade wrote:
What is the likely-hood that there is 3 town left and 2 mafia, this puts us in a LYLO situation. What are we thinkin boys.


Low, and it actually doesn't matter, we have to find scum. I need you to give thoughts on people. What do you think of lunching poof? What are your top scum reads?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 05 2014 11:01 GMT
#1275
On August 05 2014 19:27 Lord Tolkien wrote:
OK NOW, THIS is interesting and probably puts us on the path to winning. Unless cya is godfather and we're all screwed because of this; I wouldn't put it past Haru.


Right, so this actually explains why I felt so very uncomfortable with lilwade's posts and reading him in general. GIVEN THE TIMING, he's pretty much confirmed town. The only reason mafia would make such a cop claim is that it's either LYLO, or they're about to get lynched. I highly doubt we're at LYLO since that requires 3-6 town split, which means 2 mislynches=gg for town, and that's abit too little room for error in a newbie game I would think. And he'd have to be worried about a counterclaim.

I'm going to reach here and say there's 4 town 1 mafia left. What does this mean? lilwade is almost certainly not scum if that's the game setup. If he was TOWN fake-claiming cop then we may have just lost the game, but he's not an idiot from the way his posts have read, which indicates he's town. If he were mafia, the fact he doesn't die tonight after a mislynch would basically mean he's mafia and thus seal the game for town. WAYYYY too big a risk for mafia to take would think. And Mafia would basically never let him live into LYLO, because at this stage, he would basically have a 66% chance of checking a LYLO member and thus basically win it for town, vs 33% chance he checks someone who dies, and thus gets a shitton of suspicion on him. 2:1 odds...that's pretty long.

So yeah, he's most likely what he says he is, and in any event, we'll know after night if we lynch incorrectly if he was just really desperate mafia (doesn't seem like it).

Unless there was a godfather in the game, that's the "wrench", but a town read on cya is invaluable to solving the game..

So the question for me is: Poofter or GB. Hmm...after I wake up from a quick nap.



If we have any other blues (unlikely), claim now I think. I'll say it now, I'm VT.


I'd say it's very likely that poofter is mafia and it's very likely that mafia have a godfather. A setup with two goons and a cop would be slightly unbalanced.

I'll take this claim as true, though. It matches your caution while posting.

I'd say that we should kill Seeyalater and if he isn't mafia, then kill poof, or vice-versa. That is, considering Tolkien is town (I think so, he seems to be contributing in his few posts and he is playing alike our first newbie game)

I was re reading day one and I must say that cya looks suspicious, although I'm still not sure if still donkey town or mafia. The signals are too much, actually.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 05 2014 12:09 GMT
#1276
On August 05 2014 17:13 lilwade wrote:
Operation Town Victory

Ok guys, let us get this game on the right track for town win.

We have 5 players left and potentially 1-2 mafias members alive.

Plan

I am town cop.

N1: I investigated teemu, sadly he just passed away last night.

N2: I investigated Seeyalater and guess what Green check good to go (hopefully you will team up with me here)

Basically me and seeya have to decide on which one of you remaining 3 players tolkien, poof, GB is actually town so we can lynch the remaining mafia.

If there is only 1 mafia member left we have a huge change at the outright victory.

Here are my current townie rankings

1) Lord Tolkien, I think you are very much town, and your recent filter is outstanding.

2) Poofter, I think there is a good possibility you bused DC day 1 to pocket the remaining town, but chances are that would be more unlikely. Your recent posts are good as well and I would like to see what you have to say to me now.

3) GB I was never able to get a good read on you throughout the day 1 and night 1 phases, As of late I am still undecided that is why you are #3

Ride or die,

Any questions ladies?


No, wait. You checked TEEMU instead of MEATPUDDING? Why????
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 05 2014 13:56 GMT
#1277
On July 31 2014 17:39 lilwade wrote:
I got excited to see a bunch of posts when I got back, I am sincerely disappointed that the game had to go this direction, Meatpudding. What are your goals right now, you look like the kid in kindergarten pointing the finger and the other kid spitting gibberish because he took your toy. We are almost at the point where it would be better for you to role claim than anything else, not saying you have a role. Please put up a solid defense backed by what you think is solid leads and maybe we can get somewhere. For a bit you were leaning town but did not follow up on just about anything you have said. I am not sure if you just can not handle the pressure but if you are town hang in there and throw a few more punches.


Re-reading day1 and I hate this post like I hate eating a salad of rocks with fried salamanders.
This looks so scum driven...
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 05 2014 14:23 GMT
#1278
Teemu, can you get back to life? It seems our townies aren't caring for figuring the game out.
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