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On August 03 2014 07:38 meatpudding wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2014 07:35 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 03 2014 07:23 meatpudding wrote:On August 03 2014 07:19 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 03 2014 07:10 meatpudding wrote:
Do you think, if there is only a second mafia, that much can be said about a vote analysis? I think one vote isn't really a bus. Which voting analysis is this MeatProtractor? And why would one vote not be a bus? There is most likely only 2 mafia so one voting on another would 100% define the word "busing" So let's say one of my town reads is mafia. Then the case is that numbers was bussed and seeya and teemu are town that think I'm mafia. Do you think that could be possible or even likely? MeatProphecy this was a confusing statement but I think you're asking me if I think that someone who voted on RandomNumeralGuy is mafia and I think that could definitely be the case. I guess that is kind of what I was trying to say. That it could be considered that mafia voted anywhere so no vote analysis can really have meaning.
So vote analysis tells us things even if its only one because some busing can be a decent play but other busing is just unnatural and not smart most of the time. Like LordOfTheRings vote to push it off you and onto RNG is pretty damn townie. He doesn't need to do that as mafia too look town and if hes mafia it hurts him more than helps. So that kind of analysis is good. People like you MeatPong who didn't even consider it look worse because he was mafia. As well as those who didn't end up on the wagon.
Saying its worthless is just wrong. Redirect your logic train it may not be on the tracks.
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On August 03 2014 07:49 meatpudding wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2014 07:16 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 03 2014 07:09 meatpudding wrote:On August 03 2014 07:05 Seeyalater wrote:On August 03 2014 06:51 meatpudding wrote:On August 03 2014 06:19 Seeyalater wrote:On August 03 2014 05:52 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 02 2014 15:31 Seeyalater wrote:Alright after rereading everything that's happened so far since the successful day 1 lynch this is currently where I currently stand. Bang- Poofter- Alright I give up. If you really are mafia this game, then you can have my babies, because even I just can't see you being mafia when you've been very consice about everything and have looked at everything objectively. Plus with Jenny-chan dead, I really don't think you would kill someone who would probably defend you to the death when someone tried to push scum on you. Don't think if anyone's brought that up, but since most of the players here know you, its also a very anti-Poofter kill as well. Not only that, but all your cases are awesome and basically bring up the status quo of where we are right now. Now you might think this is only me trying to get you to stop your push on me, but on the contrary, I like the fair and equal pushing you are doing on everyone. Tolkien- Still high in my town list for always being objective. Also one of the few people to see me for what I am, a donkey town. Some bonus points for being the hammer vote at the end of the day 1. your post On August 01 2014 22:47 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Random collection of thoughts:
I'm fairly certain DC was bussed. Given he had literally no defense of himself, either he gave up when the jig was up, so to speak, or was deliberately dying to advance mafia interests. Or perhaps abit of both, idk. But literally posting nothing but a vote change is about as white flag and suspicious as all hell, and leads me to conclude he was bussed.
Two possibilities: Either it's to deflect from meatpudding, who was a mafia power role and thus preferential to keep alive if both are up for lynch (but that assumes we lucked out on two mafia bandwagons D1: something I feel isn't very likely, and that mafia has a power role, which isnt confirmed and is thus speculation), or to cover for someone who is now currently on the DC train. I'm scrutinizing GB, but there seems little incentive to swap so late after the silence from DC was seriously deafening, or to be the "decisive vote" (how he was painted that I have no idea).
Assuming he was bussed then, either this was a pre-meditated part of mafia strategy (and mafia could've even started the wagon) since as a D1 mafia kill, this was too "easy", or spur of the moment. It significantly impacts who's under the microscope on the vote list, I think.
Or perhaps its super WIFOM and the mafia stayed on meat, but given how there was no defense of DC, it makes little/no sense.
I'm actually looking at TehPoofter again given the possibility of bussing here. But given a votelist analysis under the assumption of bussing, without ANY prior reads I'd say the following.
People who should be a D2 wagon:
Meatpudding (unless things change drastically, step it up)
People who are suspicious as all hell:
GB
Me (even tho confirmed town)
People who should be reviewed carefully:
Banks
Jenny
lilwade
People who are most likely stupid town (like srs, DC put up no defense whatsoever):
Teemu
Seeya
If you're mafia, fuck you. Everything's locked in. :D Is probably the most concise d2 post I've seen looking at objectively. Yes others have said basically nearly the same thing, but you put it in the best terms, and bonus points for not calling anyone "town" Lilwade- not much has changed here since N1 where I had you high on my town list for being the first to hammer Clockwork, but have much like me, your involvement d2 has been very sporadic so I'll leave you here for now. Bang Teemu- Still have you leaning town. I feel like, our relationship this game started off as bitter rivals, and has now transformed as two lovers joined together by the power of the donkey. This is going to sound like sheeping, but although you are very active and propose good questions, you seem about as confused as I am to this whole thing. Basically after my push on you in day 1, and realizing how bad it was, I've basically turned lethargic and went from long posts trying to find scum in you, to sheeping a good amount of thoughts, which is what I feel you have done as well(though not as badly as me). Kill- These are basically the two scenarios I have left when it comes to these two. The first is the very obvious MP- not much to be said here. If he is the last mafia, he got really unlucky and rolled mafia with another lurker and basically tried during his few active moments to first appear town by trying to make consise reads(which he never delivered). When that failed due probably to lack of information, his strategy moved to pushing on Teemu, since the only other push availible other than his partner was himself, which left him between a rock and a hard place. Again since he wasn't around much, he probably just remembered the push that was going on Teemu d1, and tried to go back in time when that was a very hot topic to push on Teemu. However sadly for him, our time travel devices had a short fuse and did not go back in time with him, so his desperate push has lead nowhere. Another thing I've noticed about him in the past couple days. These guy has basically no town circle. I've gone through his filter and there are no real posts where he either tries to match his opinions on others, or talk about who he thinks are town. He's playing like he's the last man left alive in town, when in reality there's a high chance he's the last man alright, but the last mafia man. Then we have Glowingbear- I've usually had GB on my neutral to scum list- mainly because as others have stated, his posting style changes quite a bit from time to time. My theory on this is basically he's trying to play two different personalities this game. There's his blending into town personality, where he posts in a friendly demeanor, such as at the start of day, or at the beginning of the game. But then every now and then, it shifts into the other, scum slinging, hyper defensive personality. For example, just after day 1 we've had a few examples of this. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=39#776 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=41#816 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=42#827 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=51#1016. What do these posts have in common? Paranoia. And not paranoia about someone else being mafia, its paranoia about others seeing HIM as mafia. That could be him as town being shocked that his "super" townie play is being questioned, but these reactions have been awful. Also, while I may post a lot of fluff as some people say, if you go through GB's filter, he really doesn't bring much to the table either. His biggest "case" against someone was his very flawed case about me and Jenny. At first I thought of this as just being a donkey town case, but I don't think I can anymore. He also seemed extremely proud to have been the one to hammer Clockwork, and seemed paranoid being getting n1'd for it, but when others brought to light that it wasn't him that brought the hammer, it also makes that reaction bad. My guess if he is the last mafia? He realized very early D1 that it was going to be a very hard game since clockwork had basically done nothing to their side in almost all of day 1, and caught a chance to ride the bus on him with Poof and Jenny to appear supper town, and bussed his teammate hoping to fool everyone and coast to victory having fooled town. That also explains his super confused posts above about him being considered for lynch, since what he thought was a great plan, was not as flawless as he thought. Plus he never showed his sixpack to me. I'm still on the MP safer train barring anything major happening in the next few hours, but if he is not mafia, at this point I'm almost convinced it has to be GB, unless he can prove he isn't. This is a Texas caliber post. Big, useful, seems pretty good natured. I think you need to stick around and convince me why MeatPolice is more mafia than GlowingBeard The reasoning is pretty straight forward still. Huge lurker, disinterest in the game. I mean, look at his demeanor when he checks in once maybe every 24 hours. They seem so... soulless. Its almost like he is being forced by someone to actually check in and make a couple of posts. Not to mention, more than half his posts just repeat the same point over and over. At this point he sounds like a broken cd player. Even if you don't have much time to check in on the game(like Tolkien), you should still be able to have a clear case of where town in as a whole, instead of tunneling on 1-2 people like he has. If you really think GB is a better lynch for today, then I'd like to hear your reasoning on it to possibly switch the wagon with you. GB almost seems to have given up as well.... GlowingBear is my best guess for mafia right now. One mafia tactic is to appear overly logical and I feel like this is what gb has been trying to do all game. He backs up all hist posts with some reasoning, but I find his logic to be a bit contrived. I am wary that he might be scum and trying to cover over anything that could look inconsistent. On the other hand, he was giving pressure on 666. On the third hand, he switched votes from me only at the last minute, and I think he needs to step out of tunnel vision for a few hours. What about the rest of the people alive? If we do lynch and GB and he's not mafia, where do we go from there? I'm still having a hard time giving a read on lilwade. I would say, there is likely mafia between you and GB. If nothing changes I would hammer you second. Teemu, Banks, LT, they all seem like town to me. I agree MeatPounder We need to hear more from lilwayne. What makes you think seeyalater could be mafia as well? Can you make a case? This is just a random collection of thoughts on cya. I would have voted him but right now I think we are getting somewhere. Let's see. Cya's first list post did not contain anything for 666. This could be a clue but I'm not going to read into it. His response to GB's post reflects what I was thinking at the time. He also pushes on teemu d1 so I was considering him very town at this point. He wants to policy lynch lurkers d1, but gives LT a free town pass. Saying he is too indecisive when it comes to voting on numbers guy. After the hammer he is saying how obvious it was to town that numbers was scum. I think to me it wasn't obvious, just lucky, if there was such a solid argument for the lynch you should have voted with it but you didn't. I like that he is posting lots but I don't see his argument going anywhere. He is more than happy to tunnel and take an easy lynch d2. I think he is giving town reads a little to quickly and if he were really scum hunting he could have posted more of a case by now (instead of lynch all lurkers lol).
This bolded part is by far the most interesting point in the whole thing to me MeatPlug pointing this out is good care to explain what that was Seeya?
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On August 03 2014 07:58 meatpudding wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2014 07:55 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 03 2014 07:38 meatpudding wrote:On August 03 2014 07:35 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 03 2014 07:23 meatpudding wrote:On August 03 2014 07:19 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 03 2014 07:10 meatpudding wrote:
Do you think, if there is only a second mafia, that much can be said about a vote analysis? I think one vote isn't really a bus. Which voting analysis is this MeatProtractor? And why would one vote not be a bus? There is most likely only 2 mafia so one voting on another would 100% define the word "busing" So let's say one of my town reads is mafia. Then the case is that numbers was bussed and seeya and teemu are town that think I'm mafia. Do you think that could be possible or even likely? MeatProphecy this was a confusing statement but I think you're asking me if I think that someone who voted on RandomNumeralGuy is mafia and I think that could definitely be the case. I guess that is kind of what I was trying to say. That it could be considered that mafia voted anywhere so no vote analysis can really have meaning. So vote analysis tells us things even if its only one because some busing can be a decent play but other busing is just unnatural and not smart most of the time. Like LordOfTheRings vote to push it off you and onto RNG is pretty damn townie. He doesn't need to do that as mafia too look town and if hes mafia it hurts him more than helps. So that kind of analysis is good. People like you MeatPong who didn't even consider it look worse because he was mafia. As well as those who didn't end up on the wagon. Saying its worthless is just wrong. Redirect your logic train it may not be on the tracks. In Tolkien's case I can agree with that, but what other conclusions can you draw?
Those not on the wagon are likely partners. Myself/Jenny/Lilwayne likely town for being on the wagon early and not getting off it when we all could have.
Teemu/seeya staying on you is bad because as amfai they would be hoping that you get lynched (assuming MeatPasta is town here) over their partner.
GlowingBoard Moving off MeatPine at the end when the vote was pretty much decided, the 4 on the wagon were locked in on him and he got to 4 first. So this extra vote might have been a chance to steal some town cred knowing what RNG would flip.
^^Those are all reasonable conclusions from the vote counts.
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On August 03 2014 08:00 GlowingBear wrote:
I've never said I gave up. I'm always here to answer questions. I'm doing my best to show you I'm not mafia and that I think meatpudding is. But there's nothing I can do. My alignment, at least, will show you that you were wrong and make you reevaluate your reads in case I flip.
I hope you re-read the game in case I die and understand what you did wrong if I die.
You realize my number 2 is MeatPond so like I see his scumminess I just want to win today cause I may not be here tomorrow.
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On August 03 2014 08:15 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2014 08:02 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 03 2014 07:58 meatpudding wrote:On August 03 2014 07:55 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 03 2014 07:38 meatpudding wrote:On August 03 2014 07:35 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 03 2014 07:23 meatpudding wrote:On August 03 2014 07:19 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 03 2014 07:10 meatpudding wrote:
Do you think, if there is only a second mafia, that much can be said about a vote analysis? I think one vote isn't really a bus. Which voting analysis is this MeatProtractor? And why would one vote not be a bus? There is most likely only 2 mafia so one voting on another would 100% define the word "busing" So let's say one of my town reads is mafia. Then the case is that numbers was bussed and seeya and teemu are town that think I'm mafia. Do you think that could be possible or even likely? MeatProphecy this was a confusing statement but I think you're asking me if I think that someone who voted on RandomNumeralGuy is mafia and I think that could definitely be the case. I guess that is kind of what I was trying to say. That it could be considered that mafia voted anywhere so no vote analysis can really have meaning. So vote analysis tells us things even if its only one because some busing can be a decent play but other busing is just unnatural and not smart most of the time. Like LordOfTheRings vote to push it off you and onto RNG is pretty damn townie. He doesn't need to do that as mafia too look town and if hes mafia it hurts him more than helps. So that kind of analysis is good. People like you MeatPong who didn't even consider it look worse because he was mafia. As well as those who didn't end up on the wagon. Saying its worthless is just wrong. Redirect your logic train it may not be on the tracks. In Tolkien's case I can agree with that, but what other conclusions can you draw? Those not on the wagon are likely partners. Myself/Jenny/Lilwayne likely town for being on the wagon early and not getting off it when we all could have. Teemu/seeya staying on you is bad because as amfai they would be hoping that you get lynched (assuming MeatPasta is town here) over their partner. GlowingBoard Moving off MeatPine at the end when the vote was pretty much decided, the 4 on the wagon were locked in on him and he got to 4 first. So this extra vote might have been a chance to steal some town cred knowing what RNG would flip. ^^Those are all reasonable conclusions from the vote counts. Vote count was confusing. I thought I hammered. You thought I hammered. Why is it okay to be confused about it but not me? I realise he is second, but the fact that I'm first means you're not reading me well. Killing me will delay the game. I've already exposed my motivations so is up to you if you believed in it or not. Hint: I'm speaking the truth.
The facts are what matter so if you did it. I might not have noticed but that doesn't mean it didnt happen.
You might be telling the truth you might not i don't know. I'm going to toss out my full Bang Marry Kill here in a moment.
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Teh Bang Teh Marry and Teh Kills
Marry - I've decided not to remarry no one is really oozing town like Jenny was (and who could replace her anyways?) so I think I'm fine alone.
Bang - Lord Tolkien, Lilwayne, Teemu
Kill - GlowingBarn, MeatPansy, SeeYa, + Show Spoiler +anyone who claims medic and didn't save Jenny
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On August 03 2014 08:00 GlowingBear wrote:
I've never said I gave up. I'm always here to answer questions. I'm doing my best to show you I'm not mafia and that I think meatpudding is. But there's nothing I can do. My alignment, at least, will show you that you were wrong and make you reevaluate your reads in case I flip.
I hope you re-read the game in case I die and understand what you did wrong if I die.
On August 01 2014 08:23 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2014 08:00 Tehpoofter wrote:OPERATION: SeeyaMeat! Step 1: Lynch Seeya Step 2: Lynch Meat Step 3: Win game. If that doesn't work reevaluate. I'm going to pretend like I'm all the roles. So As medic I'm saving jenny. As Cop I'm checking between Teemu/Seeya/Meat and outting with a red check of any kind. As Vigi I'm shooting GB for trying to make roles claim when they don't need to. I'm going to give a hard bang, marry kill soon. Enjoy! ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Do you all read me as mafia??? Really??? Wtf I give up
On August 01 2014 08:40 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2014 08:32 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 01 2014 08:23 GlowingBear wrote:On August 01 2014 08:00 Tehpoofter wrote:OPERATION: SeeyaMeat! Step 1: Lynch Seeya Step 2: Lynch Meat Step 3: Win game. If that doesn't work reevaluate. I'm going to pretend like I'm all the roles. So As medic I'm saving jenny. As Cop I'm checking between Teemu/Seeya/Meat and outting with a red check of any kind. As Vigi I'm shooting GB for trying to make roles claim when they don't need to. I'm going to give a hard bang, marry kill soon. Enjoy! ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Do you all read me as mafia??? Really??? Wtf I give up Are you drunk? Unless you're secretly Seeya/Meat I think you're in the clear. Suggesting vigi killing me? How's that clear? God that's awful. Donkey? Really? I don't even... Nah, I give up.
::awkward::
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On August 03 2014 08:23 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2014 08:19 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 03 2014 08:15 GlowingBear wrote:On August 03 2014 08:02 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 03 2014 07:58 meatpudding wrote:On August 03 2014 07:55 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 03 2014 07:38 meatpudding wrote:On August 03 2014 07:35 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 03 2014 07:23 meatpudding wrote:On August 03 2014 07:19 Tehpoofter wrote:
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Which voting analysis is this MeatProtractor? And why would one vote not be a bus? There is most likely only 2 mafia so one voting on another would 100% define the word "busing" So let's say one of my town reads is mafia. Then the case is that numbers was bussed and seeya and teemu are town that think I'm mafia. Do you think that could be possible or even likely? MeatProphecy this was a confusing statement but I think you're asking me if I think that someone who voted on RandomNumeralGuy is mafia and I think that could definitely be the case. I guess that is kind of what I was trying to say. That it could be considered that mafia voted anywhere so no vote analysis can really have meaning. So vote analysis tells us things even if its only one because some busing can be a decent play but other busing is just unnatural and not smart most of the time. Like LordOfTheRings vote to push it off you and onto RNG is pretty damn townie. He doesn't need to do that as mafia too look town and if hes mafia it hurts him more than helps. So that kind of analysis is good. People like you MeatPong who didn't even consider it look worse because he was mafia. As well as those who didn't end up on the wagon. Saying its worthless is just wrong. Redirect your logic train it may not be on the tracks. In Tolkien's case I can agree with that, but what other conclusions can you draw? Those not on the wagon are likely partners. Myself/Jenny/Lilwayne likely town for being on the wagon early and not getting off it when we all could have. Teemu/seeya staying on you is bad because as amfai they would be hoping that you get lynched (assuming MeatPasta is town here) over their partner. GlowingBoard Moving off MeatPine at the end when the vote was pretty much decided, the 4 on the wagon were locked in on him and he got to 4 first. So this extra vote might have been a chance to steal some town cred knowing what RNG would flip. ^^Those are all reasonable conclusions from the vote counts. Vote count was confusing. I thought I hammered. You thought I hammered. Why is it okay to be confused about it but not me? I realise he is second, but the fact that I'm first means you're not reading me well. Killing me will delay the game. I've already exposed my motivations so is up to you if you believed in it or not. Hint: I'm speaking the truth. The facts are what matter so if you did it. I might not have noticed but that doesn't mean it didnt happen. You might be telling the truth you might not i don't know. I'm going to toss out my full Bang Marry Kill here in a moment. Your list doesn't matter. You're still killing a townie and making it easier to mafia to win the game. Just re read my filter day one and meatpudding's filter day2 and see who you find more scum. See who was pushing people to them it and who was doing almost nothing to win the game. The posts are there and you're betting on the wrong guy.
MeatPython lurked hard all day 1 you made a really bad case on Jenny/seeya and gave like 100 excuses for what your RL was doing. Like I will read it over again but honestly you're not even the one leading the votes and you're freaking out about it. I may switch to MeatPig later in the day but as of now I'm okay seeing what things brings.
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On August 03 2014 08:36 meatpudding wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2014 08:29 Tehpoofter wrote:Teh Bang Teh Marry and Teh Kills Marry - I've decided not to remarry no one is really oozing town like Jenny was (and who could replace her anyways?) so I think I'm fine alone. Bang - Lord Tolkien, Lilwayne, TeemuKill - GlowingBarn, MeatPansy, SeeYa, + Show Spoiler +anyone who claims medic and didn't save Jenny Tehpoofter you seem depressed. Be brave there are plenty more seals in the ocean. What's you reason for Teemu green? And is lilwade more green than Teemu? Are you saying seeya is your number 3 red? I am thinking second to GB now.
Teemu has done nothing today and he is the last green for that but I saw flares of his towniness yesterday. He rounds out my bangs cause I only have 3 lynches to work with.
Lilwade has been voting with me and should be reevaluated later if we dont win today but hes seemed townie when he pops in to talk.
Sometimes only one ![[image loading]](http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/templates/763348.jpg) will do.
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On August 03 2014 08:43 meatpudding wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2014 08:37 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 03 2014 08:23 GlowingBear wrote:On August 03 2014 08:19 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 03 2014 08:15 GlowingBear wrote:On August 03 2014 08:02 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 03 2014 07:58 meatpudding wrote:On August 03 2014 07:55 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 03 2014 07:38 meatpudding wrote:On August 03 2014 07:35 Tehpoofter wrote:
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MeatProphecy this was a confusing statement but I think you're asking me if I think that someone who voted on RandomNumeralGuy is mafia and I think that could definitely be the case. I guess that is kind of what I was trying to say. That it could be considered that mafia voted anywhere so no vote analysis can really have meaning. So vote analysis tells us things even if its only one because some busing can be a decent play but other busing is just unnatural and not smart most of the time. Like LordOfTheRings vote to push it off you and onto RNG is pretty damn townie. He doesn't need to do that as mafia too look town and if hes mafia it hurts him more than helps. So that kind of analysis is good. People like you MeatPong who didn't even consider it look worse because he was mafia. As well as those who didn't end up on the wagon. Saying its worthless is just wrong. Redirect your logic train it may not be on the tracks. In Tolkien's case I can agree with that, but what other conclusions can you draw? Those not on the wagon are likely partners. Myself/Jenny/Lilwayne likely town for being on the wagon early and not getting off it when we all could have. Teemu/seeya staying on you is bad because as amfai they would be hoping that you get lynched (assuming MeatPasta is town here) over their partner. GlowingBoard Moving off MeatPine at the end when the vote was pretty much decided, the 4 on the wagon were locked in on him and he got to 4 first. So this extra vote might have been a chance to steal some town cred knowing what RNG would flip. ^^Those are all reasonable conclusions from the vote counts. Vote count was confusing. I thought I hammered. You thought I hammered. Why is it okay to be confused about it but not me? I realise he is second, but the fact that I'm first means you're not reading me well. Killing me will delay the game. I've already exposed my motivations so is up to you if you believed in it or not. Hint: I'm speaking the truth. The facts are what matter so if you did it. I might not have noticed but that doesn't mean it didnt happen. You might be telling the truth you might not i don't know. I'm going to toss out my full Bang Marry Kill here in a moment. Your list doesn't matter. You're still killing a townie and making it easier to mafia to win the game. Just re read my filter day one and meatpudding's filter day2 and see who you find more scum. See who was pushing people to them it and who was doing almost nothing to win the game. The posts are there and you're betting on the wrong guy. MeatPython lurked hard all day 1 you made a really bad case on Jenny/seeya and gave like 100 excuses for what your RL was doing. Like I will read it over again but honestly you're not even the one leading the votes and you're freaking out about it. I may switch to MeatPig later in the day but as of now I'm okay seeing what things brings. That's my favourite one yet.
Do I get a MeatPoint? for a good name?
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On August 03 2014 08:51 meatpudding wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2014 08:49 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 03 2014 08:43 meatpudding wrote:On August 03 2014 08:37 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 03 2014 08:23 GlowingBear wrote:On August 03 2014 08:19 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 03 2014 08:15 GlowingBear wrote:On August 03 2014 08:02 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 03 2014 07:58 meatpudding wrote:On August 03 2014 07:55 Tehpoofter wrote:
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So vote analysis tells us things even if its only one because some busing can be a decent play but other busing is just unnatural and not smart most of the time. Like LordOfTheRings vote to push it off you and onto RNG is pretty damn townie. He doesn't need to do that as mafia too look town and if hes mafia it hurts him more than helps. So that kind of analysis is good. People like you MeatPong who didn't even consider it look worse because he was mafia. As well as those who didn't end up on the wagon.
Saying its worthless is just wrong. Redirect your logic train it may not be on the tracks. In Tolkien's case I can agree with that, but what other conclusions can you draw? Those not on the wagon are likely partners. Myself/Jenny/Lilwayne likely town for being on the wagon early and not getting off it when we all could have. Teemu/seeya staying on you is bad because as amfai they would be hoping that you get lynched (assuming MeatPasta is town here) over their partner. GlowingBoard Moving off MeatPine at the end when the vote was pretty much decided, the 4 on the wagon were locked in on him and he got to 4 first. So this extra vote might have been a chance to steal some town cred knowing what RNG would flip. ^^Those are all reasonable conclusions from the vote counts. Vote count was confusing. I thought I hammered. You thought I hammered. Why is it okay to be confused about it but not me? I realise he is second, but the fact that I'm first means you're not reading me well. Killing me will delay the game. I've already exposed my motivations so is up to you if you believed in it or not. Hint: I'm speaking the truth. The facts are what matter so if you did it. I might not have noticed but that doesn't mean it didnt happen. You might be telling the truth you might not i don't know. I'm going to toss out my full Bang Marry Kill here in a moment. Your list doesn't matter. You're still killing a townie and making it easier to mafia to win the game. Just re read my filter day one and meatpudding's filter day2 and see who you find more scum. See who was pushing people to them it and who was doing almost nothing to win the game. The posts are there and you're betting on the wrong guy. MeatPython lurked hard all day 1 you made a really bad case on Jenny/seeya and gave like 100 excuses for what your RL was doing. Like I will read it over again but honestly you're not even the one leading the votes and you're freaking out about it. I may switch to MeatPig later in the day but as of now I'm okay seeing what things brings. That's my favourite one yet. Do I get a MeatPoint? for a good name? You can have a MeatPat on the Back too.
MeatParade seems in order.
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On August 03 2014 08:53 Seeyalater wrote:
Make it a threesome?
I've already committed to my bangs.
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That vote makes the count MeatPoster 4 GlowingBurt 3.
MeatProperty(4): GlowingBear, Lord Tolkien, Seeyalater, Lilwayne
GlowingBear(3): TehPoofterTexanHero, Teemu, MeatPhone
I believe is the current vote counts with everyone voting... GONNA BE A NAIL BITER!!!
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On August 03 2014 10:21 Lord Tolkien wrote:Alright, time for me to get active. Free time inc. 1) I'm starting to see posts from MP that are comforting me with my assumption he's townie. #unvote MeatpuddingContinue this trend, plox. Additionally, what are your thoughts on Banks, and give me a detailed explanation why. Why do you think he is the most espoused town exactly? Also, where is your push onto lilwade? I see your case on GB and cya, but not on lilwade, and to continue to say you're eyeing him. Can I hear your suspicions? 2) GB: This is bad, very bad as you very well note. Show nested quote +On August 02 2014 17:13 GlowingBear wrote:
Teemu, poof asked for my top3 scum read when I have only one. It's okay if you disagree, as I see no other option right now Show nested quote +On August 03 2014 00:31 GlowingBear wrote:On August 03 2014 00:28 Seeyalater wrote:
If that's so, then mind explaining to us where you are currently in the game? Lets say MP gets lynched and he's not mafia, what is your plan after that happens? I'd definitely push lilwade because he is not contributing much. Tbh Teemu I'm so sure meatpudding is mafia that in hardly considering other options. I know it's bad but I can't explain. If he flips town, everyone will start being mafia to me FINE LETS MAKE A HYPOTHETICAL. Meatpudding gets lynched today and flips green. Who do you think is potential scum now? LET'S REMOVE MP FROM THE EQUATION HERE. I'll be honest, I think meatpudding is more useful town than you are atm. I think you're both (stupid) town (you mostly because I don't think mafia would be stupid enough not to closely check the votelist before claiming to have brought the hammer down on his partner) btw, but if I had to choose, I'd much rather you die than meatpudding here since meatpudding is at least considering other options and thus strikes me as more town. IF YOU'RE TOWN, CONVINCE ME. 3) Seeya: why do you think Teemu is donkey town exactly? 4) lilwade: I understand RL issues, it's what's been keeping me all week. Now then, I want to hear much more from you right now. Why do you think meatpudding is more likely to be scum, when GB has been even more unhelpful D2 than MP (who has been entertaining alternate mafia possibilities, versus MP tunnelvision)? I also really want to hear much more from you starting now (and you should all expect the same from me). 5) Teemu: what are your thoughts on lilwade and Banks. 6) TehPoofter wants to club baby seals. confirmed canuck, canadian mole, better lynch now I'll be on the rest of the night if you guys want to establish a rapport, but these are some major questions I want answered now. I'll give my vote and mafia case later.
That is like a slap to the face good sir!!! A gentleman doesn't take to kindly to being called Canadian!!!
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On August 03 2014 10:22 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2014 10:13 GlowingBear wrote:On August 03 2014 08:32 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 03 2014 08:00 GlowingBear wrote:
I've never said I gave up. I'm always here to answer questions. I'm doing my best to show you I'm not mafia and that I think meatpudding is. But there's nothing I can do. My alignment, at least, will show you that you were wrong and make you reevaluate your reads in case I flip.
I hope you re-read the game in case I die and understand what you did wrong if I die. On August 01 2014 08:23 GlowingBear wrote:On August 01 2014 08:00 Tehpoofter wrote:OPERATION: SeeyaMeat! Step 1: Lynch Seeya Step 2: Lynch Meat Step 3: Win game. If that doesn't work reevaluate. I'm going to pretend like I'm all the roles. So As medic I'm saving jenny. As Cop I'm checking between Teemu/Seeya/Meat and outting with a red check of any kind. As Vigi I'm shooting GB for trying to make roles claim when they don't need to. I'm going to give a hard bang, marry kill soon. Enjoy! ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Do you all read me as mafia??? Really??? Wtf I give up On August 01 2014 08:40 GlowingBear wrote:On August 01 2014 08:32 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 01 2014 08:23 GlowingBear wrote:On August 01 2014 08:00 Tehpoofter wrote:OPERATION: SeeyaMeat! Step 1: Lynch Seeya Step 2: Lynch Meat Step 3: Win game. If that doesn't work reevaluate. I'm going to pretend like I'm all the roles. So As medic I'm saving jenny. As Cop I'm checking between Teemu/Seeya/Meat and outting with a red check of any kind. As Vigi I'm shooting GB for trying to make roles claim when they don't need to. I'm going to give a hard bang, marry kill soon. Enjoy! ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Do you all read me as mafia??? Really??? Wtf I give up Are you drunk? Unless you're secretly Seeya/Meat I think you're in the clear. Suggesting vigi killing me? How's that clear? God that's awful. Donkey? Really? I don't even... Nah, I give up. ::awkward:: How many times I'll have to fucking say it I was faking? How many times I'll have to fucking show you all reasons to kill meatpudding? Whoever you guys kill, me or meatpudding, and kill after, if not LYLO, kill poof. Jesus. So you support the "pacification" of Canadian baby seal clubbers? instant town points for me
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On August 03 2014 08:29 Tehpoofter wrote:Teh Bang Teh Marry and Teh Kills Marry - I've decided not to remarry no one is really oozing town like Jenny was (and who could replace her anyways?) so I think I'm fine alone. Bang - , Lilwayne, TeemuKill - GlowingBarn, MeatPansy, SeeYa, + Show Spoiler +anyone who claims medic and didn't save Jenny
EBWOP
[pink]People calling me Canadian: Lord Tolkendonkey [/pink]
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On August 03 2014 10:38 meatpudding wrote:
Tolkien, what I thought about Banks initially was that he was ok. He was posting in his typical style and giving a waterfall of town posts. So far so good. He pushed a bit on Teemu d1 before switching to me and 666. His rationale on 666 didn't seem particularly strong to me even after he explicitly spelled it out. Now, I didn't follow his reasoning behind the switch but I was willing to take a good chance that he was paying more attention to the game than me so I gave him credit for it. However, we know that numbers guy wasn't particularly active. I am making room for the idea that there is a world where banks was staring down at an empty qt and decided the best strategy was to eliminate his own partner and is now running around free with 6 vt in pocket.
Banks is clearly the most espoused, I think he is on almost everyone's marry list. I haven't seem him as less than a bang.
Sorry boys you can't all have me 
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On August 03 2014 10:50 lilwade wrote:
Current MBK
Marry- surprisingly Teemu made my marry list this time around. I think he has been more solid, although he needs to wake up again from yesterday
Bang, Poof, still very town to me I like the way he has been playing to this current post.
Bang, Tolkien, posts from being back were definitely solid and I like where he is going.
Glowing bear- I dont know whether you belong on bang or kill. Maybe if you can give me a thought process of where you are at this time I can get a better read on you.
Seeya - You were also leaning kill list for me but I doubt the wagon would switch to you on short notice, I will most definitely read you up and down through the next phase
Meat - Right now I feel like you are getting out of your old self and looking better, sadly I still have you on the bottom of this list. You are more likely than not tied with GB and Seeya so if you want me to get off teh nuts then give me a raisin why.
Wouldn't he want you to get on the nuts to be a bang?
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On August 03 2014 10:42 meatpudding wrote:
And on lilwade, I'm not sure. I don't have a case. I was letting him go under the rader while the focus was on others earlier. Now I don't have a good town read on him either. So I don't know what to think about it.
I'm going to wait until Teemu is around tonight to make a final decision. I am not sold on anyone being mafia. I only really think about 2 people are town.
Tolkien has really stepped up today and lilwayne just seems to mind meld with me a lot.
MeatPoultry dying could end the game When I play though if I think about who would be the toughest mafia to lynch and go for that one. I think GB fits that bill. He has some townie point but some strong mafia ones. I really want to just win the game tonight and make this a town perfect game so I'm stressing over this like its lylo (which wouldnt be for 2 more days  )
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On August 03 2014 11:00 meatpudding wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2014 10:50 lilwade wrote:
Current MBK
Marry- surprisingly Teemu made my marry list this time around. I think he has been more solid, although he needs to wake up again from yesterday
Bang, Poof, still very town to me I like the way he has been playing to this current post.
Bang, Tolkien, posts from being back were definitely solid and I like where he is going.
Glowing bear- I dont know whether you belong on bang or kill. Maybe if you can give me a thought process of where you are at this time I can get a better read on you.
Seeya - You were also leaning kill list for me but I doubt the wagon would switch to you on short notice, I will most definitely read you up and down through the next phase
Meat - Right now I feel like you are getting out of your old self and looking better, sadly I still have you on the bottom of this list. You are more likely than not tied with GB and Seeya so if you want me to get off teh nuts then give me a raisin why. This is a very typical marriage list to what we have seen so far, with me, cya, gb all hovering around the kill zone. I'm more interested in why you have doubts on seeya. And it's hard to say anything about your reads when the last 3 are tied, you should be more determined if you actually want to rat scum out!
I kinda agree with this.
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