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ObiWanShinobi
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Rayn supported me. Rayn supported the Duelmaster. | ||
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kushm4sta
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Palmar is looking townie cause 1. lots of townreads, which are easy to do as scum but not smart to do because it narrows your mislynch options. I don't expect him to townread people like that as scum. 2. active, responsive early game 3. no nervousness in his tone 4. instaduel might be anti town but it shows fearlessness | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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Do you honestly believe they can't? Besides, I seriously doubt scum!Palmar can't just up and go, "I don't remember why I townread all these people." | ||
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kushm4sta
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On July 30 2014 11:52 Holyflare wrote: I think yamato is mafia On July 30 2014 13:35 yamato77 wrote: lolhf Yamato responds to a one liner less than two hours later. Clearly he is reading the thread, but he claims to have no time to play. How can someone with no time to play read the thread? On July 31 2014 00:50 yamato77 wrote: still don't really have time to play until tomorrow unfortunate for you folks | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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ObiWanShinobi
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That doesn't make any sense. | ||
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slOosh
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I dunno, I liked his general attitude about it. And it forces marv to participate as either alignment, which is good for us, and it seems like if he finds marv town then he is ok with being lynched. I think at least Palmar is town. | ||
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kushm4sta
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On July 31 2014 13:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Actually, why is it that Palmar pretended to give a shit about the thread atmosphere when Holyflare was posting, but then all of a sudden #yolo duels Marv? That doesn't make any sense. He cared about not spamming. that's not exactly the same as caring about pro town atmosphere. | ||
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kushm4sta
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ObiWanShinobi
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On July 31 2014 13:32 slOosh wrote: Well he did it cause he found it funny I suppose. I dunno, I liked his general attitude about it. And it forces marv to participate as either alignment, which is good for us, and it seems like if he finds marv town then he is ok with being lynched. I think at least Palmar is town. Which I can understand. But I don't understand how you can give so much of a shit about town atmosphere...Enough to write a giant post about a high-volume player telling him not to be so high-volume like he always is, just so he could turn around and #yolo duel. He's commenting on something that's so unbelievably obvious acting like he cares, and all of a sudden he doesn't care. You don't think that's a problem? | ||
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kushm4sta
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yamato77 sinani206 fuba damdred goodkarma ~~~ Let me expand on goodkarma. 1. NK analysis Rayn put the most pressure on goodkarma. He also scumread him. 2. Post 3 On July 31 2014 04:01 goodkarma wrote: I'd bomb batsnacks or Damdred. Batsnack's scummy and is a clear liability if he's going to continue playing like this. He's done literally nothing useful all game. Damdred hasn't contributed much of anything, and is super-wishy washy with what reads he does give. Most of the lurkers at this point have become or promised to be more active, so I'd be inclined to give them a chance. Fuba doesn't count as he's looking like he's getting modkilled. As town he would have more thoughts on the game if he were following it as closely as he is. We know he is following it closely because he knows fuba is probably going to get modkilled. "Batsnacks is scummy and is a clear liability if he's going to continue playing like this." - I see a contradiction here. Liability is what you call someone you think is town but is playing bad in some way. Someone can't really be scummy AND be a liability. Goodkarma, why is he scummy? 3. Post 5 + Show Spoiler + On July 31 2014 04:50 goodkarma wrote: Look at any of my prior games and you should know my day 1 usually involves removing people that are most likely to be D1 liabilities. You should also know that I don't spam like crazy in games. Every post I make has a purpose, or I don't post it. I don't talk about jagers or any other random crap. I only post when I feel it'll be helpful. On top of that I don't have a scum read on any of the active players right now. So heaven forbid, that leaves who I've listed as the most likely scum candidates. Sinani specifically has been brought up. If he behaves this way all game, he's a huge liability and a good bomb target. But from what he's posted it looks like he'll only behave like this day one, and this is why I excluded him. Here he is very focused on defending himself using meta. Except I did look at his meta, and in every town game he gave thoughts on people other than lurkers and usually asked questions. This game: On top of that I don't have a scum read on any of the active players right now. His last scum game: As far as who Hapa should "vigi" with his mayor powers, I haven't seen anyone so far that looks very scummy 4. Post 6 + Show Spoiler + On July 31 2014 05:10 goodkarma wrote: @Vivax: This is literally the only thing resembling a read I've seen in Damdred's filter. Hence why I said wishy-washy. It's the way I play mafia on day 1. Vote histories and how people push players makes subsequent days much easier. Mafia is lynched about as often as you'd get from RNG day 1, and there's a reason for that. If you're mislynching town most of the time, I'd prefer to mislynch a liability. Besides that, I've found active players tend to be town more often than mafia. Unfortunately, this is all the time I can put into this game before night ends so if you're going to bomb me you're going to bomb me. But I'd encourage you to look at some of my prior games. My day 1's are historically a bit dicey. Probably because of my approach (even though it's a good one). I'm here and talking to you, and I'll be here for you to get a better read on (if I live) as the game progresses. Leave me alive, and I'm confident you'll find I'm a cheese that gets better with age, as I've shown in many of my prior games. But if I die I would highly encourage you to set up a duel between the two people I've listed. Especially Damdred if he continues to post the way he has. Ehh I'm kind of unscumreading goodkarma at this point. Don't you hate it when you write a long post and in the middle of you it you change your mind. whatever im posting everything anyway cause yolo spamin it up. fuck | ||
yamato77
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ObiWanShinobi
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On July 31 2014 13:34 kushm4sta wrote: He cared about not spamming. that's not exactly the same as caring about pro town atmosphere. I understand I'm sort of enabling you by responding. But if you are town, you should know that most people don't actually read 300 pages of game content. I know you do, but I also know not nearly everyone does. When I am mafia, I want nothing more than the thread ending up at least 100 pages on day 1. It ensures town isn't actively looking into specific things, just sort of goes along with some hive-mind mentality. It is far better if townies agree to consolidate posts and only point out important things that need pointing out. So, yes, I understand you enjoy spamming as much as you can. But I'm asking you to try not to. Spamming is far less effective than it used to be anyway, due to people actually picking up on the fact that for a while we just assumed everyone who spammed was town. Do you honestly believe the purpose of this post was to not give a shit about town atmosphere? Because that looks like the entire purpose of it. | ||
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slOosh
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Can we talk about ritoky bombs? Do people disagree with yamato / goodkarma? Is there someone else who is a better target? | ||
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kushm4sta
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ObiWanShinobi
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On July 31 2014 13:52 kushm4sta wrote: obi, there is a huge difference between being protown and being anti spam. anti spam can come from being lazy and not wanting to read a lot of shit. I don't see palmar's anti spam as a contradiction to his yolo instaduel at all. Okay. I think this conversation is going to stagnate until Marv actually gets around to playing and Palmar fullclaims. | ||
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slOosh
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I would like it if ritoky bombed him. Summary being: goodkarma is guilty of being apathetic. He doesn't really seem to care about the big issues of the thread and sounds very unconvinced by his own arguments. Check out Normal Mini IV, a relatively recent game. Despite having only 2 pages of filter, he was very involved in D1, and consequently shot N1. I don't think the meta picture he paints himself of being totally reserved D1 fits here. | ||
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goodkarma
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On July 31 2014 06:26 batsnacks wrote: You're going to have to be really, really fast on the draw to beat me to it. Like I said, my challenge is going out 5 minutes tops. Why didn't this happen? | ||
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kushm4sta
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On July 31 2014 14:14 slOosh wrote: Check out Normal Mini IV, a relatively recent game. Despite having only 2 pages of filter, he was very involved in D1, and consequently shot N1. I don't think the meta picture he paints himself of being totally reserved D1 fits here. um... worst metaing ever. "he was active d1 in this other game, therefore if he's not active d1 he is scum" no. He said he didn't have time and I believe him. | ||
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