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IV Titanic Mafia: It Has Been a Privilege

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 19:57:37
July 19 2014 19:54 GMT
#42
On March 07 2014 13:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Ain't a titanic game without you

you're right /in


Favourite composer obviously Sentinel. ^^
Or Beethoven, just because of Steve Vai:
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 19 2014 20:19 GMT
#45
On July 20 2014 05:17 Navillus wrote:
composer: John Williams

song: Jurassic Park Theme

Oh fuck that song is awesome!
I have almost forgotten it even exists.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 20 2014 14:23 GMT
#68
I've found two scum already. They lied.
ninjabunnies and navillus.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 20 2014 16:24 GMT
#70
I am not able to roll scum in Titanic games. But feel free to try.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 21 2014 17:45 GMT
#90
I wanna play with Bill Murray. BM can you join this game?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 21 2014 18:14 GMT
#93
let's go and sink this ship!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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Last Edited: 2014-07-21 18:16:08
July 21 2014 18:15 GMT
#96
Koshi too slow.
no.. Koshi just enough fast! \o/
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 21 2014 19:31 GMT
#105
so you don't have to sitout bans?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 21 2014 19:34 GMT
#107
cheater
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raynpelikoneet
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July 22 2014 21:01 GMT
#218
/confirm

Xatalos why did you write "sigh" after your vote?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 22 2014 21:08 GMT
#222
I am not sure i believe you.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
July 22 2014 21:08 GMT
#223
And what does that have to do with the vote?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 22 2014 21:18 GMT
#229
Well that's not true Xatalos.
Anyways the thread is kinda dumb atm and i am sleepy so sleepy time.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 14:41 GMT
#554
never seen kushmasta this town.

Damdred makes a terrible post on Xatalos (because the post lacks any conclusion and/or follow up). Cava calls the post good (apparently because he has a townread on damdred he "guesses"). Haru says Xatalos is buddying and apparently that's scummy? Well it's not. Then Cava says he doesn't want to pick a side regarding Xatalos. But in fact he kinda has (see townread on damdred).

CR has the best approach to Xatalos situation. It makes sense although i don't know if it makres Xatalos mafia but regardless it makes sense. All other shit on Xatalos is crap and idk why anyone thinks it's any good..

Navillus post badbad.
##vote: Navillus

Teemursu why are you leaning scum on Xatalos?

Palmar town. Shopping List is right. Teemursu gave a strange weak defence on Xatalos after calling him probably scum. Koshi what the fuck are you doing - except for the Vivax stuff?
---
Cava could also be mafia, and damdred, and Haru. ugh.. that's too stupid.

but Koshi for reals what the fuck?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 14:42 GMT
#555
Palmar's case was after stuff started happening. You don't make wishy-washy posts like that any more at that point.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 14:47 GMT
#560
Xatalos what about vivax' posting is reasonably constructive?
can you gimme some posts that fall into the category you are describing?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 14:47 GMT
#561
On July 23 2014 23:46 Vivax wrote:
Hi rayn! Heading for the biggest filter I hope.

Hi Vivax! not gonna happen, muchos work.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 14:53 GMT
#563
yes, not decided. the case's those three other people i mention look way worse because there is absolutely nothing behind their words. now can you answer me about vivax?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 14:54 GMT
#564
like there are four people who read xatalos scum for non-existent or shit reasons. If even one of those ppl is scum Xatalos is town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 14:58 GMT
#566
So why is your vote not on Navillus Xata?
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raynpelikoneet
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July 23 2014 15:00 GMT
#567
Instead it's on the guy who made all those good posts.. even about Navillus.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:00 GMT
#568
unvote
vote: Xatalos

ezgame
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raynpelikoneet
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July 23 2014 15:00 GMT
#569
##unvote
##vote: Xatalos
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:02 GMT
#572
You literally defend the due you are voting for - for reasons like him calling another player (who you seem to think is mafa as per your posts) scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:03 GMT
#573
eeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..... xatalos xatalos xatalos.....
why did you vote for vivax in the first place?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:08 GMT
#575
Okay so after those good posts Vivax made you have been here in thread. Why didn't you unvote then and only after i call you out on your contradiction..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:09 GMT
#577
Do you seriously have that sorta heuristics as town Xatalos? It's like you are not willing to scumhunt at all.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:10 GMT
#579
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:12 GMT
#580
Shoppinglist is that Holyflare?
What do you make of this portion of my post before:
Damdred makes a terrible post on Xatalos (because the post lacks any conclusion and/or follow up). Cava calls the post good (apparently because he has a townread on damdred he "guesses"). Haru says Xatalos is buddying and apparently that's scummy? Well it's not. Then Cava says he doesn't want to pick a side regarding Xatalos. But in fact he kinda has (see townread on damdred).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:24 GMT
#583
On July 24 2014 00:15 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit.


I think I did mention that it's stupid to call me "infinitely scummy" for a single listpost, but overall I don't feel like it's inherently scummy to make bad cases. It's D1 after all, good cases are rare.

no it's not scummy to make bad cases. that's not what i am suggesting. did you even read my post and what it was referring to? i am not calling anyone mafia for making bad cases.

damdred made a posts that really said nothing. he didn't follow that up in any way - even when there were questions which you didn't even answer.

Cava called damdred town for that post, then he called you not necessarily scum. first of all that post was not good, second, he cannot give damdred a town read if he does not think you are scummy. because he didn't call the case bad. you either agree with a case or not, he didn't do either but STILL the post was somehow good. like, he semi-agreed with it without saying so. wishy-washy as fuck.

Haru called you out for buddying after those two guys. Buddying is not scummy unless you explain why. Stupid as fuck.

Teemu called you scummy for who knows why.

Now why didn't YOU call these people out for those things? Like do you want people just attack you for dumb shit and do nothing about it? Or scared of saying something that is ACTUALLY scummy? idk.. i just can't see why you would like to have bad cases on you running around without cutting them out straight up.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:35 GMT
#587
On July 24 2014 00:34 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you seriously have that sorta heuristics as town Xatalos? It's like you are not willing to scumhunt at all.

I'm glad you spotted this as well.

You made your post when there was nothing going on in thread. You can't compare those two... srsly.
why is buddying scummy?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:37 GMT
#591
Also Haru what's your read on Cava?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:38 GMT
#592
On July 23 2014 09:51 HaruRH wrote:
I feel that xatalos is making a towncircle with koshi and all his 'gut townreads/don't want to lynch d1'. I don't like his interaction with koshi either. It is just straight up buddying.
Xatalos also immediately came out to present himself as town town town. Still weird.


So is this scummy or not? Why can't you give a direct answer?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:44 GMT
#597
I think you misquoted something Haru..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:46 GMT
#599
On July 24 2014 00:44 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 23 2014 09:51 HaruRH wrote:
I feel that xatalos is making a towncircle with koshi and all his 'gut townreads/don't want to lynch d1'. I don't like his interaction with koshi either. It is just straight up buddying.
Xatalos also immediately came out to present himself as town town town. Still weird.


So is this scummy or not? Why can't you give a direct answer?

Its suspicious.
Not a scumtell at all. Just that people who are attempting to buddy up so early aren't up to any good.
They're going to nk all of us

I really don't know what's suspicious in buddying, so could you explain?
I do it all the time as town when there are players who i work with in a best way like that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:47 GMT
#602
On July 24 2014 00:46 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think you misquoted something Haru..

Where

On July 24 2014 00:43 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 16:43 Teemursu wrote:
On July 23 2014 16:12 Navillus wrote:
Teemursu unrelated to the content could you just try to consolidate your posts a bit more, it just makes things more readable.

On other notes, I hadn't noticed that post by Palmar which is definitely a problem post, I also would really like for vayne to explain the Haru vote.

Obi and temmursu what do you think of xatalos, damdred and kush?


Sure, sorry, I guess the style comes from more fsat phased video mafia.

Xatalos leaning scum, damdred had kind of a bad entrance to the thread and his posting since hasn't been so good that I'd put him higher. kush I have leaning town. He's posting some reads and pressuring people.

Anyway, what's your read on Obi?

The whole sheeping kush thing I did to apply som pressure, and imo he's reacting badly to it. I still stand by what I've said about him doing jack shit about providing any content, though, and him callin me a moron, retard and an idiot instead of giving reads or askng any relevant questions looks really bad for him.

I want to see if he actually commits to calling me a moron for the rest of thr game, though.

His response to teemu reeks of anger, which is bad. It screams scum to me. But I don't have anything else to back the feeling up, so I can only wait and see his responses to other pressure and his general posting.
I certainly don't agree (as a town) with what obiwan is doing to react to teemu.

In this post, or then i don't get what you are saying.
I thought i asked you about Cava and then you quote some post that has nothing to do with him unless i am mistaken?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:48 GMT
#603
On July 24 2014 00:47 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2014 00:15 Xatalos wrote:
On July 24 2014 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit.


I think I did mention that it's stupid to call me "infinitely scummy" for a single listpost, but overall I don't feel like it's inherently scummy to make bad cases. It's D1 after all, good cases are rare.

no it's not scummy to make bad cases. that's not what i am suggesting. did you even read my post and what it was referring to? i am not calling anyone mafia for making bad cases.

damdred made a posts that really said nothing. he didn't follow that up in any way - even when there were questions which you didn't even answer.

Cava called damdred town for that post, then he called you not necessarily scum. first of all that post was not good, second, he cannot give damdred a town read if he does not think you are scummy. because he didn't call the case bad. you either agree with a case or not, he didn't do either but STILL the post was somehow good. like, he semi-agreed with it without saying so. wishy-washy as fuck.

Haru called you out for buddying after those two guys. Buddying is not scummy unless you explain why. Stupid as fuck.

Teemu called you scummy for who knows why.

Now why didn't YOU call these people out for those things? Like do you want people just attack you for dumb shit and do nothing about it? Or scared of saying something that is ACTUALLY scummy? idk.. i just can't see why you would like to have bad cases on you running around without cutting them out straight up.


I'm not really worried about being lynched and I know my own alignment, so it's kind of nice to have initial suspicions on me to see how they develop / how other players react. At least it's better than everyone sheeping to some lurker. Plus there isn't really much to say about those posts you mentioned. They're either weak suspicions or not even real suspicions at all.

Damdred's post has probably been the most useless one, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if there's scum among this group.

Exactly who and why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:52 GMT
#608
but why is it suspicious?
you just keep saying it's suspicious. do you think he "was scared of being lynched" with.... i think zero votes on him 3h (or so) into the game?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:54 GMT
#609
On July 24 2014 00:52 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2014 00:46 HaruRH wrote:
On July 24 2014 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think you misquoted something Haru..

Where

On July 24 2014 00:43 HaruRH wrote:
On July 23 2014 16:43 Teemursu wrote:
On July 23 2014 16:12 Navillus wrote:
Teemursu unrelated to the content could you just try to consolidate your posts a bit more, it just makes things more readable.

On other notes, I hadn't noticed that post by Palmar which is definitely a problem post, I also would really like for vayne to explain the Haru vote.

Obi and temmursu what do you think of xatalos, damdred and kush?


Sure, sorry, I guess the style comes from more fsat phased video mafia.

Xatalos leaning scum, damdred had kind of a bad entrance to the thread and his posting since hasn't been so good that I'd put him higher. kush I have leaning town. He's posting some reads and pressuring people.

Anyway, what's your read on Obi?

The whole sheeping kush thing I did to apply som pressure, and imo he's reacting badly to it. I still stand by what I've said about him doing jack shit about providing any content, though, and him callin me a moron, retard and an idiot instead of giving reads or askng any relevant questions looks really bad for him.

I want to see if he actually commits to calling me a moron for the rest of thr game, though.

His response to teemu reeks of anger, which is bad. It screams scum to me. But I don't have anything else to back the feeling up, so I can only wait and see his responses to other pressure and his general posting.
I certainly don't agree (as a town) with what obiwan is doing to react to teemu.

In this post, or then i don't get what you are saying.
I thought i asked you about Cava and then you quote some post that has nothing to do with him unless i am mistaken?


Oh. I meant to say at the start that I feel the same as teemu, where cava/obi is overreacting to a small pressure with tons of aggression.

yes i agree with that too. Cava has however a "history" of getting dumblynched on D1 as town so i don't see this something that's really scummy, it's just weird.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:59 GMT
#615
On July 24 2014 00:56 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
but why is it suspicious?
you just keep saying it's suspicious. do you think he "was scared of being lynched" with.... i think zero votes on him 3h (or so) into the game?


???
How did you get the interpretation that I thought xata begged for town reads because he was scared of being lynched?

It is very, very, very fine to do if you're just buddying with someone, or even wirh a group. But doing it WHILE trying to explain how he is in his town meta now, posting useless reads that seem to blend into town and trying to buddy up isn't really what towns do.

Do you do that?

because you said:
I don't care about buddying. I do it when I'm scared of being lynched too. However, it is how he is doing so much suspicious things at once. Jumping in by buddying with koshi and all his neutral reads, feeling like he is making a towncircle and combined with his unnecessary need to explain to everyone this is his town meta and almost begging for towm reads on him.

Buddying with Koshi (which is not suspicious normally (?) but you DID call it suspicious - because mafia buddies when being scared of being lynched).

What am i missing?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 16:00 GMT
#616
On July 24 2014 00:59 HaruRH wrote:
Let me explain in a more simple way since you seem to not understand

Buddying = ok

Buddying + trying to convince people you're on your town meta + posting useless list posts + forming town circles WHEN THE GAME JUST STARTED = not ok, suspicious as fuck

no it's not. If you can't explain why buddying in this particular situation is scummy you should exclude it from your "scummy things" list. Basic stuff...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 16:01 GMT
#617
it's like you are reading someone scum, and including reasons "what townies do".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 16:02 GMT
#618
hey Xatalos quick question - are you using mafia tools this game?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 16:07 GMT
#621
Who did Xatalos say were his scumreads at the time of listpost?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 16:11 GMT
#625
On July 24 2014 01:09 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 01:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who did Xatalos say were his scumreads at the time of listpost?

Myself and vayne I believe then he voted me before i came back then he dissapeared

funny how bad you remember your scumread's posts--
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 16:11 GMT
#627
On July 24 2014 01:10 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 01:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hey Xatalos quick question - are you using mafia tools this game?


Nope. Actually it's been my goal to finish work on it this summer, but somehow I've been delaying it and it's still under construction. It might still be good to use it to keep track of all these unknown players in its current state. Have you been using it btw?

I haven't played mafia for ~3months until a week or so ago so no.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 16:12 GMT
#629
On July 24 2014 01:11 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2014 01:09 Damdred wrote:
On July 24 2014 01:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who did Xatalos say were his scumreads at the time of listpost?

Myself and vayne I believe then he voted me before i came back then he dissapeared

funny how bad you remember your scumread's posts--

no he is correct.

no he is not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 16:14 GMT
#631
Okay so "i hope Vayne is not gonna be a policy lynch this game" apparently is a scumread for about half of the thread.
I kinda don't wanna play with idiots so... cya later.-
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 16:17 GMT
#636
If anyone thinks that's a scumread you should be 1600% sure Xatalos is mafia and vote for him immediately.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 16:18 GMT
#637
Koshi you're a fucking idiot or mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 16:19 GMT
#641
also for the record scum, vayne - if town - is gonna be a perfect mislynch after you shoot me.
true story.
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July 23 2014 16:20 GMT
#642
On July 24 2014 01:19 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 01:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If anyone thinks that's a scumread you should be 1600% sure Xatalos is mafia and vote for him immediately.


Sorry I'm an idiot. Could you explain why?

where does he say vayneauthority is mafia?
here, i quote it to you:
VayneAuthority - I have some bad memories of him literally claiming scum as town, so he might be a policy lynch again, but hopefully not
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 16:21 GMT
#643
I am actually more interested in Koshi's response to my last post.
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July 23 2014 16:23 GMT
#645
so not paying attention.
[x] check
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raynpelikoneet
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July 23 2014 16:27 GMT
#648
because there would be no way he could possibly scumread vayne at that point of the gmae.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 16:27 GMT
#649
now can you explain where xatalos says vayne is scum?
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raynpelikoneet
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July 23 2014 16:32 GMT
#651
Koshi why can i be mafia?
explain
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July 23 2014 16:32 GMT
#652
On July 24 2014 01:28 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 01:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
now can you explain where xatalos says vayne is scum?


Can you explain where he said I was town?

i asked you first. and i don't think he has said so anywhere nor have i.
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July 23 2014 17:15 GMT
#687
On July 24 2014 01:57 kushm4sta wrote:
rayn how are you reading obiwan currently? i seem to remember you saying something about him but i cant find it in your filter.

koshi, your reason for townreading him is terribad btw.

leaning scum. it's in my filter.
things i find contradicting in his read on Xatalos/damdred.
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July 23 2014 17:27 GMT
#694
On July 24 2014 02:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
leaning scum. it's in my filter.
things i find contradicting in his read on Xatalos/damdred.


wat

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 02:15 kushm4sta wrote:
obi, what happened to your haru read?
So according to you I am mafia because I am reading you wrong, and there's no way I could read you wrong as town?


No, it's because you're scumreading me for no reason, or at the very least, you refuse to elaborate.

Explain and maybe I'll reconsider.

It's in my filter. did you read the thread?
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raynpelikoneet
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July 23 2014 17:32 GMT
#697
On July 24 2014 02:30 Xatalos wrote:
GB's confidence in me being scum is actually pretty shocking. It's like he initially decided that I would be his vote target and proceeded to search for justification to keep his vote on me. There is literally no consideration for me possibly being town in his filter. In his latest post he confidently states that "mafia changed the attention away from Xatalos". This is some really stupid confirmation bias or a hopeless scum mislynch push. I think it's actually more likely coming from scum since it feels... forced. Especially his great confidence in his read right after the game had just started.

I don't like this post for multiple reasons.
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raynpelikoneet
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July 23 2014 17:34 GMT
#701
On July 24 2014 02:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Pfft, no. I had to reread your filter to find it.

I don't have to agree with a case to think someone is town or not.

no you don't. but did you read the other post of mine?
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July 23 2014 17:43 GMT
#709
On July 24 2014 02:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2014 02:30 Xatalos wrote:
GB's confidence in me being scum is actually pretty shocking. It's like he initially decided that I would be his vote target and proceeded to search for justification to keep his vote on me. There is literally no consideration for me possibly being town in his filter. In his latest post he confidently states that "mafia changed the attention away from Xatalos". This is some really stupid confirmation bias or a hopeless scum mislynch push. I think it's actually more likely coming from scum since it feels... forced. Especially his great confidence in his read right after the game had just started.

I don't like this post for multiple reasons.


I hate when you post like this. Explain?

First two sentences are totally wrong and if Xatalos thinks so he needs to justify it which he has not done.
Why can't mafia change atttention out of mafia? I mean obviously, regardless of Xatalos' alignment he "reads himself" as town and says so, but that's not any proof of what ACTUALLY happened.
Where is the conf bias?
Confidence is not a scumtell unless he explains why.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 17:43 GMT
#710
that was xatalos' post...
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raynpelikoneet
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July 23 2014 17:44 GMT
#712
On July 24 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:15 Xatalos wrote:
On July 24 2014 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit.


I think I did mention that it's stupid to call me "infinitely scummy" for a single listpost, but overall I don't feel like it's inherently scummy to make bad cases. It's D1 after all, good cases are rare.

no it's not scummy to make bad cases. that's not what i am suggesting. did you even read my post and what it was referring to? i am not calling anyone mafia for making bad cases.

damdred made a posts that really said nothing. he didn't follow that up in any way - even when there were questions which you didn't even answer.

Cava called damdred town for that post, then he called you not necessarily scum. first of all that post was not good, second, he cannot give damdred a town read if he does not think you are scummy. because he didn't call the case bad. you either agree with a case or not, he didn't do either but STILL the post was somehow good. like, he semi-agreed with it without saying so. wishy-washy as fuck.

Haru called you out for buddying after those two guys. Buddying is not scummy unless you explain why. Stupid as fuck.

Teemu called you scummy for who knows why.

Now why didn't YOU call these people out for those things? Like do you want people just attack you for dumb shit and do nothing about it? Or scared of saying something that is ACTUALLY scummy? idk.. i just can't see why you would like to have bad cases on you running around without cutting them out straight up.

Cava, this post. If i have to quote my own posts again for you i am gonna lynch you.
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raynpelikoneet
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July 23 2014 17:45 GMT
#713
On July 24 2014 02:43 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 02:37 Vivax wrote:
I found GB's big post pretty townie cause he tries really hard to get a point across he seems to find tough to bring across, and in the process of reading it you kinda get that aha-feeling for all he found scummy about Xata, and can understand it and realize that it's probably what he really thinks

This is directed at you, Xata.


I just found it weird how he could be so confident based on such weak reasoning.

am i scum too? i am always confident, one would say (correctly ) over-confindent.
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raynpelikoneet
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July 23 2014 17:53 GMT
#717
Like Xatalos, why is any of that scummy?
This is like people telling me VA was your scumread but then none of them could tell me where you said he is mafia...
ugh.. fucking shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 17:54 GMT
#718
let's lynch all the people who said VA is Xatalos' scumread?
jjust because that was so bad.

Palmar you in?
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raynpelikoneet
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July 23 2014 18:02 GMT
#722
On July 24 2014 02:59 Vivax wrote:
Rayn can you go a bit into detail about the "wtf Koshi, wtf are you doing" and why you don't want to scumread him, if I'm not mistaken.

I don't know what to read him. I agree with him to some extent on you, other stuff he has posted is just.... mehhhhhhhhhhh.......
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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July 23 2014 18:06 GMT
#725
i didn't read that post. it wasn' really interesting. i don't know what's it about and i doubt it's important as noone has pushed anything based on that post.
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July 23 2014 18:07 GMT
#730
Vivax that's not why i think Koshi voted for you. If i am wrong please correct me.
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July 23 2014 18:15 GMT
#732
On July 24 2014 03:11 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 03:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax that's not why i think Koshi voted for you. If i am wrong please correct me.


I correct you. Go with my blessing, amen.
What of Koshi now?

what do you mean? i just said idk...
do you even know why Koshi voted for you?
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raynpelikoneet
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July 23 2014 18:18 GMT
#733
oh i misread one of your posts. yeah that's why he voted for you. i can see why.
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July 23 2014 18:19 GMT
#735
what you say is not right or wrong, it's just not scummy by any means.
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raynpelikoneet
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July 23 2014 18:22 GMT
#737
Isn't it already an issue that you can't be sure why after we had that long fight in the thread?

I know exactly why you had the fight. I just thought about 2min ago YOU DIDN'T. Then i realized i missed the quote from you you quoted in your post.
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July 23 2014 18:24 GMT
#738
On July 24 2014 03:21 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
what you say is not right or wrong, it's just not scummy by any means.


Why did you feel the need to get so worked up over his posts then.

what the fuck vivax?
I said "everything Koshi has said EXCEPT FOR WHAT HE HAS SAID ABOUT VIVAX is meh....
what the fuck`?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 18:27 GMT
#740
yes i didn't like your post and i liked Koshi's response -> which was to vote for you, as i have clearly said.
What's so hard to understand?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 18:29 GMT
#742
like, i don't know if you are mafia, i don't know if Koshi is mafia. Maybe you are fucking both mafia, who knows.
Other than his posts on you, they are bad. That's what i have said. I don't know why you are curious for.
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July 23 2014 18:29 GMT
#743
On July 24 2014 03:28 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
let's lynch all the people who said VA is Xatalos' scumread?
jjust because that was so bad.

Palmar you in?


rayn please look at this post:

Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 09:45 batsnacks wrote:
On July 23 2014 06:29 Xatalos wrote:
On July 23 2014 06:18 Chopin Liszt wrote:
On July 23 2014 06:16 Xatalos wrote:
On July 23 2014 06:10 Chopin Liszt wrote:
On July 23 2014 06:09 Xatalos wrote:
On July 23 2014 06:06 Chairman Ray wrote:
The exchange between Xatalos and Koshi is the most awkward and forced conversation I have ever seen, especially this:

On July 23 2014 05:41 Xatalos wrote:
On July 23 2014 03:04 Koshi wrote:
Xatalos it has been a while. I am town this game. You must be so happy.


Hmm. I think I want you to live longer than D1 just for the "Mafia totes alive guis" mass PM. That, and my history of reading you is horrible. I have the vague idea that someone explained your meta to me in a recent game so I'll search for that.


If we had two lynches, I'd lynch them both.

##Vote: Xatalos


I don't think it's a good idea to lynch either of us for D1. Generally speaking.

What does this mean?


Koshi can look scummy during D1 as town so it's not usually a good time to lynch him. I'm generally active regardless of my alignment, and I become a (somewhat) valuable asset throughout the game as town and I tend to reveal myself more easily later on as scum (+leaving material to work with). Neither of us are ideal D1 lynches.

Interesting.

Why don't you give us a list of acceptable day 1 lynches then, friend?


HaruRH - don't remember him, not really for or against lynching him D1

Koshi - against lynching him D1

teemursu - see HaruRH

Chopin Liszt - see HaruRH

VayneAuthority - I have some bad memories of him literally claiming scum as town, so he might be a policy lynch again, but hopefully not

raynpelikoneet - definitely not a D1 lynch unless he somehow is really scummy (doubtful regardless of his alignment)

ObiWanShinobi - see HaruRH

Navillus - see HaruRH

GlowingBear - see HaruRH

kushm4sta - hmmm.... I think he's quite a good scum player so I'd rather see until later to judge him

Chairman Ray - see HaruRH

Vivax - no special feelings towards him although I do remember that he was pretty obviously scummy in one game, we'll see

batsnacks - see HaruRH

Damdred - could be scum based on my initial gut feeling

Palmar - see raynpelikoneet


Here I colored your post for you because I wanted to see what it would look like with slightly more effort.


I really want you to understand without having to explain it to you.

yeah you made VA's name red! <3
now explain why?
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raynpelikoneet
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July 23 2014 18:33 GMT
#745
On July 24 2014 03:31 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yes i didn't like your post and i liked Koshi's response -> which was to vote for you, as i have clearly said.
What's so hard to understand?


That I fail to understand how you don't like my point I made en passant about Koshi posting his convoluted reasons for navi being town without having a scumread he would be able to support with that.

Like, he talked about all that stuff before, the only thing I saw close to a scumread was his vote on CR, then came mechanics talk, mass claim talk, he skips over the palmar case until I ask him about it, claims that navi is town, and in all this, where exactly was he scumhunting until the point where he dropped the vote on me more out of omgus than anything else?

okay this makes more sense on paper.
lemme re-read a bit.
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raynpelikoneet
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July 23 2014 18:37 GMT
#748
On July 24 2014 03:31 Vivax wrote:
...he skips over the palmar case until I ask him about it, claims that navi is town...

vivax can you show me how exactly this happened, because i don't see it this way.
gimme your perspective plz.
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July 23 2014 18:38 GMT
#749
On July 24 2014 03:35 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2014 03:28 batsnacks wrote:
On July 24 2014 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
let's lynch all the people who said VA is Xatalos' scumread?
jjust because that was so bad.

Palmar you in?


rayn please look at this post:

On July 23 2014 09:45 batsnacks wrote:
On July 23 2014 06:29 Xatalos wrote:
On July 23 2014 06:18 Chopin Liszt wrote:
On July 23 2014 06:16 Xatalos wrote:
On July 23 2014 06:10 Chopin Liszt wrote:
On July 23 2014 06:09 Xatalos wrote:
On July 23 2014 06:06 Chairman Ray wrote:
The exchange between Xatalos and Koshi is the most awkward and forced conversation I have ever seen, especially this:

[quote]

If we had two lynches, I'd lynch them both.

##Vote: Xatalos


I don't think it's a good idea to lynch either of us for D1. Generally speaking.

What does this mean?


Koshi can look scummy during D1 as town so it's not usually a good time to lynch him. I'm generally active regardless of my alignment, and I become a (somewhat) valuable asset throughout the game as town and I tend to reveal myself more easily later on as scum (+leaving material to work with). Neither of us are ideal D1 lynches.

Interesting.

Why don't you give us a list of acceptable day 1 lynches then, friend?


HaruRH - don't remember him, not really for or against lynching him D1

Koshi - against lynching him D1

teemursu - see HaruRH

Chopin Liszt - see HaruRH

VayneAuthority - I have some bad memories of him literally claiming scum as town, so he might be a policy lynch again, but hopefully not

raynpelikoneet - definitely not a D1 lynch unless he somehow is really scummy (doubtful regardless of his alignment)

ObiWanShinobi - see HaruRH

Navillus - see HaruRH

GlowingBear - see HaruRH

kushm4sta - hmmm.... I think he's quite a good scum player so I'd rather see until later to judge him

Chairman Ray - see HaruRH

Vivax - no special feelings towards him although I do remember that he was pretty obviously scummy in one game, we'll see

batsnacks - see HaruRH

Damdred - could be scum based on my initial gut feeling

Palmar - see raynpelikoneet


Here I colored your post for you because I wanted to see what it would look like with slightly more effort.


I really want you to understand without having to explain it to you.

yeah you made VA's name red! <3
now explain why?


The only real read xatalos gave in that post was on damdred. Now look what I did again.

yes. and that means i am right, right? and you are scum or an idiot no?
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raynpelikoneet
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July 23 2014 18:40 GMT
#752
On July 24 2014 03:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On July 24 2014 03:38 kushm4sta wrote:
##unvote
##vote obiwanshinobi


I still need an explanation as to why you're scumreading/voting me.

and i need an explanation why you seem to pop in only just when someone calls you mafia lately?
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raynpelikoneet
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July 23 2014 20:25 GMT
#836
On July 24 2014 04:40 Teemursu wrote:
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On July 24 2014 04:36 Palmar wrote:
Koshi|3576
Vivax|3230
Navillus|2906
Teemursu|2837
Xatalos|2132
raynpelikoneet|2017

These are the players that have written more than 2000 words in this game. I think we should just not lynch them.

I disagree,

high word count + a lot of fluff, null, lack of scum hunting/forming town circles properly = generally mafia.

Mafia can be active too, y'know?

elaborate. who?
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raynpelikoneet
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July 23 2014 20:29 GMT
#838
Shopping your case and what you called Teemursu out just a while ago;
How do these two things go together?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 20:33 GMT
#844
you said:
batsnacks is mafia because:
1. No-one has mentioned him really (except Koshi calling him town for colors)
2. He's not done anything but has a reasonable number of posts
3. Just staring at the playerlist my eye kept getting drawn here. This makes him very likely mafia.

then you called out Teemursu for:
"Yet nowhere in your explanation do you allow for the fact that he could just be a terrible townie. You don't need meta (other than having played the game of mafia before) to know that there exist terrible townies. But there's no consideration for this here."

How does the stuff you call batsnacks out for make him scum over the stuff you call out Teemu for?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 20:33 GMT
#845
like, you have one semi-valid point on bats. you have a better point on Teemu. w00t?
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July 23 2014 20:36 GMT
#848
On July 24 2014 05:34 Chopin Liszt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
you said:
batsnacks is mafia because:
1. No-one has mentioned him really (except Koshi calling him town for colors)
2. He's not done anything but has a reasonable number of posts
3. Just staring at the playerlist my eye kept getting drawn here. This makes him very likely mafia.

then you called out Teemursu for:
"Yet nowhere in your explanation do you allow for the fact that he could just be a terrible townie. You don't need meta (other than having played the game of mafia before) to know that there exist terrible townies. But there's no consideration for this here."

How does the stuff you call batsnacks out for make him scum over the stuff you call out Teemu for?

The two are unrelated? I still don't know what you're asking.

yes i get that. what i don't get is why your vote is where it is.
i also think your points 1 and 3 on bats are crap if not jokes.
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July 23 2014 20:38 GMT
#851
alright that sounds fucking dumb.
lemme try again.
i think your case on teemu is much stronger than your case on bats, so i can't understand why your vote is where it is atm. and i can't understand why YOU think your vote is better placed on bats than on teemu.
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July 23 2014 20:44 GMT
#854
meta? ugh...
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July 23 2014 20:48 GMT
#857
On July 24 2014 05:46 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alright that sounds fucking dumb.
lemme try again.
i think your case on teemu is much stronger than your case on bats, so i can't understand why your vote is where it is atm. and i can't understand why YOU think your vote is better placed on bats than on teemu.

What does this matter?

I don't believe you are asking this...
People vote for their top scumread, at least until EOD (consolidation).
I feel like Shoppinglist is having you as more scummy as he does have batsnacks.
therefore he should be pushing you and not him right?
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July 23 2014 20:54 GMT
#859
On July 24 2014 05:50 Chopin Liszt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2014 05:46 Teemursu wrote:
On July 24 2014 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alright that sounds fucking dumb.
lemme try again.
i think your case on teemu is much stronger than your case on bats, so i can't understand why your vote is where it is atm. and i can't understand why YOU think your vote is better placed on bats than on teemu.

What does this matter?

I don't believe you are asking this...
People vote for their top scumread, at least until EOD (consolidation).
I feel like Shoppinglist is having you as more scummy as he does have batsnacks.
therefore he should be pushing you and not him right?

I genuinely don't understand what part of "he is active" you don't understand in relation to this.

Teermersu is far more involved than batsnacks is, even if there are things I don't like about his play.

For example, I am not considering lynching you right now even though you seem to be pushing me on something that should be extremely obvious to you. Because you actually seem to care what is going on, at least.

Chopin

I will not argue about that, because you are right. The way you presented your arguments however suggests TO ME that you think teemu is more scummy than bats (as in my opinion you have way more valid arguments against him). So, obviously you disagree as if you did not, you'd claim mafia.

that's why i am not asking you but other people about what they do think.
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July 23 2014 20:59 GMT
#863
On July 24 2014 05:54 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2014 05:46 Teemursu wrote:
On July 24 2014 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alright that sounds fucking dumb.
lemme try again.
i think your case on teemu is much stronger than your case on bats, so i can't understand why your vote is where it is atm. and i can't understand why YOU think your vote is better placed on bats than on teemu.

What does this matter?

I don't believe you are asking this...
People vote for their top scumread, at least until EOD (consolidation).
I feel like Shoppinglist is having you as more scummy as he does have batsnacks.
therefore he should be pushing you and not him right?

I'm not telling him who he should be pushing on, that's his own choice. Liszt's case on me earlier was bad. Chopin's case on me is meh, I don't really see either one of them being stronger than the other.

Kush, did you say you think Rayn is mafia? Could you explain why?

Like what the fuck man?
Can you answer me? I asked you a question and you give me a "could be maybe not" answer.
Answer the question; do you think it's scummy or not he is not pushing you as per what i said?
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July 23 2014 21:02 GMT
#865
that's not an answer to what i asked.
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raynpelikoneet
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July 23 2014 21:03 GMT
#866
hint: correct answer is yes/no
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raynpelikoneet
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July 23 2014 21:11 GMT
#868
so you do not actually try to figure out why people post what they do?
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raynpelikoneet
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July 23 2014 21:13 GMT
#870
like if someone says:
"this guy is scum. idk why really, but i feel like it. gut read mostly, so kill him. [vote]

but also there is this other guy, here is X Y Z reasons why he is mafia and i definitely fell like he'll flip scum [no action]"

you just go, "awww.. makes sense yobro" ???
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July 23 2014 22:16 GMT
#876
On July 24 2014 07:00 Xatalos wrote:
rayn, so you think ObiWan is scum? Have you played with him before?

I dunno about his meta, but he doesn't feel like he's afraid of getting attention at all. He's also posted quite a bit so far. It's more indicative of town to me.

He's showed reluctance to take stances, but it could just be genuinely not having many strong opinions.

Is there something else on him besides the wishy-washiness?

yes i think he might be scum for what i said. You know i say stuff when i have something to say.
there is nothing else i have said and yes, i have played with him before. i have also coached him as you might realize if you read the thread.
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July 23 2014 22:33 GMT
#879
navillus you posted "I definitely don't think Koshi should be the D1 lynch right now but I don't have a strong town read on him." and then you posted a couple of more scumreads that were more scummy at the same minute.... you even voted for someone else.

why?
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July 23 2014 22:33 GMT
#881
nvm i misread. carry on.
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July 23 2014 22:35 GMT
#884
i can give you a hint. palmar is town, so is VA.
damdred and batsnacks look like mafia.
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Profile Joined April 2007
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July 23 2014 22:39 GMT
#885
no fuck i am not sure about bats. i gotta take my words back on him.
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July 23 2014 22:46 GMT
#891
i don't actually think batsnacks is mafia, his posts are just too fucking insane for scum.
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July 23 2014 22:47 GMT
#892
i gotta look into the other ppl who said VA is scum. that read was so fkn terrible.
literally the terriblest thing in this game.
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Profile Joined April 2007
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July 23 2014 22:56 GMT
#898
On July 24 2014 07:51 Palmar wrote:
Oh I know, I'll do a game.

ok. Does anyone here think that his contributions are so good that everyone should be townreading him. If anyone can say "yes, what I have posted is definitely so townie no one should have any doubts", then please explain why your stuff is so town.


yes. no.
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July 23 2014 23:02 GMT
#902
On July 24 2014 08:00 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 07:59 Xatalos wrote:
kush, what makes you so confident in your scumread on ObiWan? I just can't think of anything that would make him particularly scummy.


What makes you think that obi has nothing particularly scummy outside of the possibility that you are defending your scumpartner and you're waiting for the moment to bus him?

omg.
hahahaha. so bad but stilol..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 23:03 GMT
#903
Haru do you play video mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
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July 23 2014 23:05 GMT
#905
because that way you could be on townpile.
you genuinely new on forum mafia?
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July 23 2014 23:08 GMT
#908
okay don't defend ppl or call people mafia because of connection cases ok?
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July 23 2014 23:08 GMT
#909
especially on D1..
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July 23 2014 23:09 GMT
#910
anyways townpile.
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July 23 2014 23:10 GMT
#912
double townpile
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July 23 2014 23:14 GMT
#913
xatalos go?
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raynpelikoneet
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July 23 2014 23:17 GMT
#916
......................................... you just got a case against you????
just because someone tells it's bad it does not make you immortal.
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July 23 2014 23:18 GMT
#918
CR i read 5 first lines of your case and then i laughed and stopped.
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July 23 2014 23:19 GMT
#919
tldr plz?
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July 23 2014 23:27 GMT
#926
On July 24 2014 08:25 Palmar wrote:
##unvote
##vote VayneAuthority

reasoning. one word ok?
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July 23 2014 23:34 GMT
#931
sleepy time sleeps <3
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July 24 2014 16:07 GMT
#1579
when is the lynch?
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July 24 2014 16:08 GMT
#1584
wait what the fuck?
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raynpelikoneet
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July 24 2014 16:09 GMT
#1589
On July 25 2014 01:09 Palmar wrote:
wow, deadline is in the middle of the day, what is this? Australia?

apparently yes..
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 16:12 GMT
#1601
On July 25 2014 01:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 01:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
when is the lynch?


What?

Guys, I think we need to lynch rayn.

I didn't have any fucking idea when the deadline is because i got my role PM at 20:00 my time. The clock is 19:11 atm. I have been at work and started reading for like 20 pages and then someone said the deadline is at 19:00 my time. It does even read in the OP the deadline is at 20:00 but fucking daylight savings time and i have to switch timezones and i always forget to do it.
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July 24 2014 16:12 GMT
#1602
I think you are a fucking asshole cava if you make a case like that on me.
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raynpelikoneet
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July 24 2014 16:13 GMT
#1603
Koshi is an asshole too.
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raynpelikoneet
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July 24 2014 16:13 GMT
#1605
On July 25 2014 01:10 Koshi wrote:
I am not playing this game anymore.

yeah modkill yourself.
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July 24 2014 16:14 GMT
#1607
On July 25 2014 01:13 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 01:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 01:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 25 2014 01:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
when is the lynch?


What?

Guys, I think we need to lynch rayn.

I didn't have any fucking idea when the deadline is because i got my role PM at 20:00 my time. The clock is 19:11 atm. I have been at work and started reading for like 20 pages and then someone said the deadline is at 19:00 my time. It does even read in the OP the deadline is at 20:00 but fucking daylight savings time and i have to switch timezones and i always forget to do it.


Ehm, talking about the meta information of your role PM is considered cheating I fear.

well that's not the point. the point is the deadline is different from game start and my TL time is one hour ahead of my current time.
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July 24 2014 16:15 GMT
#1609
On July 25 2014 01:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't know your work schedule, all I saw was you not being around at lynch time.

Cripes.

I was. I was reading the thread for like 30 minutes. I just assumed the deadline is in an hour.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 16:16 GMT
#1610
On July 25 2014 01:14 Xatalos wrote:
rayn, why was your vote on me all day even if you never really pursued lynching me and barely even talked about me for the latter half of your filter?

I wasn't gonna vote for you.
As far as i got i would have voted for GlowingBear, damdred or Navillus.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 16:20 GMT
#1616
GlowingBear why did you soft-called me scum for lurking somewhere around p45 or smth.
People have to sleep and have fucking jobs. I stayed up until 2:30am JUST for this game and went to work @ 7:00am. I kinda wanna kill you with fire JSUT for that comment because it's so retarded.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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July 24 2014 16:31 GMT
#1628
On July 25 2014 01:28 Chopin Liszt wrote:
I think Teemursu might be rayn's brother

that would be a no.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 16:34 GMT
#1631
On July 25 2014 01:30 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 01:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 01:14 Xatalos wrote:
rayn, why was your vote on me all day even if you never really pursued lynching me and barely even talked about me for the latter half of your filter?

I wasn't gonna vote for you.
As far as i got i would have voted for GlowingBear, damdred or Navillus.


If your vote had been the decisive vote to lynch me, I'd be pretty angry at you right now. Why leave the vote on me earlier and go AFK?

Oh well, I was saved in the end anyway.

And I doubt you're scum either.

I got tired. I still work around 60-70h/week. I stayed up 'til 2:30 and i didn't know who is mafia. I don't even fucking remember what i said in the end so i guess i have to read my own filter. At that time i was not sure if you are mafia or not and i STILL am not sure. But from where i got (around p50 or so) you were definitely not the scummiest person in the game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 16:35 GMT
#1636
Never ever move the deadline Sentinel. Please. Delay the fucking day/night post for 12hours or whatever if you have to. I got screwed by moved deadline in Titanic II as an SK (i most likely would have had the cop to claim which would have basically won me the game).

Please never ever this again.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 16:53 GMT
#1649
Also for the record i have my 30th birthday this Sunday sodon't expect me to be quite active during tomorrow, Saturday and Sunday. If it's a problem you might just aswell vig me because i will get mad at people who call me mafia "for lurking". I'll read & post whenever i can but this game is not going to be my priority at that time.

That being said Teemu / Xatalos. Are you guys (living?) in Helsinki during weekend? Let's meetup, i'll bring the champagne.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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July 24 2014 16:59 GMT
#1656
i have started to like vivax.
what's the current case on him?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 19:41 GMT
#1706
On July 25 2014 02:03 Chopin Liszt wrote:
haru/cav/rayn appearing when they did totally scummy btw

fuck you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 19:46 GMT
#1707
On July 25 2014 02:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I thought the key issue was Koshi's stance on Damdred.

He criticizes Vivax for scumreading Damdred for having a shitty day 1, as he did in Storm. The issue is that Damdred goes in active again and Koshi threatens to lynch him for being shitty on day 1 while criticizing Vivax for doing the same.

Though now that I say it out loud, I'm not entirely certain. Rayn did the same thing to me earlier so idk.

tell me more about this.
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raynpelikoneet
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July 24 2014 19:51 GMT
#1708
On July 25 2014 02:03 Chopin Liszt wrote:
haru/cav/rayn appearing when they did totally scummy btw

Like you literally believe me or not.
Which is it? One answer makes me 100% mafia, another one does not.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 20:05 GMT
#1712
Why should you have stayed on Xatalos?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 20:11 GMT
#1713
Koshi is obviously tunneling you at this point and to be frank i don't dee you as scum at this point from how your playing now and how you've played as scum before.

also who are you talking to here?
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Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 20:31 GMT
#1719
no you said he was probably scum or bad town and blabla.
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raynpelikoneet
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July 24 2014 20:32 GMT
#1720
On July 25 2014 05:31 Chopin Liszt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 02:03 Chopin Liszt wrote:
haru/cav/rayn appearing when they did totally scummy btw

Like you literally believe me or not.
Which is it? One answer makes me 100% mafia, another one does not.


What kind of silly question is this? If you want me to throw a coin to answer just tell me.

are you marv?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 20:41 GMT
#1721
why does everyone fuck off when i post?
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July 24 2014 20:43 GMT
#1724
On July 25 2014 05:42 Chopin Liszt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 05:31 Chopin Liszt wrote:
On July 25 2014 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 02:03 Chopin Liszt wrote:
haru/cav/rayn appearing when they did totally scummy btw

Like you literally believe me or not.
Which is it? One answer makes me 100% mafia, another one does not.


What kind of silly question is this? If you want me to throw a coin to answer just tell me.

are you marv?


No hf.

I do not believe you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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July 24 2014 20:46 GMT
#1730
On July 25 2014 05:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 05:42 Chopin Liszt wrote:
On July 25 2014 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 05:31 Chopin Liszt wrote:
On July 25 2014 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 02:03 Chopin Liszt wrote:
haru/cav/rayn appearing when they did totally scummy btw

Like you literally believe me or not.
Which is it? One answer makes me 100% mafia, another one does not.


What kind of silly question is this? If you want me to throw a coin to answer just tell me.

are you marv?


No hf.

I do not believe you.

It is a smurf. One is HF the other is unknown but likes to suck assholes. Like literally assholes.

i know the other half is HF. Like i read the thread.
I think the other half is marv and their posts sounded like marv's a while ago. I don't kinda spend time on smurfhunting but if marv has been calling me scum on N1 he is scum, totally.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 20:49 GMT
#1732
you have been saying shit for like 8 pages of those 10 Koshi.
there is a reason people read you scum, marv or not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 21:09 GMT
#1736
vivax. i'll be honest with you. i've been bothered with phonecalls all night long so i have really no fkn idea what happened after p50 -> lynch. who do you think is scum? Koshi and Teemu? who else?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 21:24 GMT
#1739
On July 25 2014 06:18 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
vivax. i'll be honest with you. i've been bothered with phonecalls all night long so i have really no fkn idea what happened after p50 -> lynch. who do you think is scum? Koshi and Teemu? who else?


Just take your time with catching up I don't want to really repeat stuff that is fairly visible in my filter.
We aren't in a hurry now.

I have read your filter. Who else?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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July 24 2014 21:33 GMT
#1742
On July 25 2014 06:29 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
vivax. i'll be honest with you. i've been bothered with phonecalls all night long so i have really no fkn idea what happened after p50 -> lynch. who do you think is scum? Koshi and Teemu? who else?

You should read that stuff, it's pretty interesting.

ehh.. why? what i see is Navillus got lynched and then people bitched about him getting lynched and yelled "this X dude is 100% scum". Those ppl are probably scum (based on heuristics which is bad).

What do i gain in reading those pages and why have you not convinced me (with posts that actually could make me read) those pages are important? You can't just say THERE WAS A LOT OF COOL STUFF! If noone talks about it it was probably bad.
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 21:34 GMT
#1743
On July 25 2014 06:30 Damdred wrote:
Ray will you read Xat filter and look at gis town claim tell me what you think?

Do you think he is scum for it?
No i won't, unless someone makes a case on it.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 21:35 GMT
#1745
okay totes marv.
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raynpelikoneet
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July 24 2014 21:37 GMT
#1748
it doesn't matter you wanting to beat someone with like you said it's marv.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 21:40 GMT
#1751
On July 25 2014 06:36 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 06:29 Teemursu wrote:
On July 25 2014 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
vivax. i'll be honest with you. i've been bothered with phonecalls all night long so i have really no fkn idea what happened after p50 -> lynch. who do you think is scum? Koshi and Teemu? who else?

You should read that stuff, it's pretty interesting.

ehh.. why? what i see is Navillus got lynched and then people bitched about him getting lynched and yelled "this X dude is 100% scum". Those ppl are probably scum (based on heuristics which is bad).

What do i gain in reading those pages and why have you not convinced me (with posts that actually could make me read) those pages are important? You can't just say THERE WAS A LOT OF COOL STUFF! If noone talks about it it was probably bad.

I'm talking about before Nav got lynched. There was a lot of vote switching and people going apeshit. Shit got real for once and you can probably read people's alignment really well from that.

okay so let me rephrase;

as i was afk (so by not having read all the thread), i think if noone says anything about those things that happened it's not important. there are 12 townies left, if none of those 11 find stuff important should i trust them or not? like obviously i think i am better than anyone else in this game but still... if EVERYONE is ignorant about something, why should i care?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 21:40 GMT
#1753
On July 25 2014 06:37 kushm4sta wrote:
chopin isn't marv. probably robik or bh.

If that's robik i'll suicide myself (joke - but still).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 21:49 GMT
#1758
okay i'll read it tomorrow before i leave.
i just don't see anything POST deadline worth discussing. It's not like "you pushed that and that was bad" - usual stuff. It was just badddddddddd... ffs at first i could not even realize the deadline had passed (when i jumped onto the last page), only after half of a page. everyone who is town just fucking step up your game ok?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 21:51 GMT
#1760
lol shoppinglist is town.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 22:00 GMT
#1765
ehhhh.. If you read Koshi town why do you read him as scum?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 22:06 GMT
#1770
On July 25 2014 07:02 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ehhhh.. If you read Koshi town why do you read him as scum?

I'm reading him as town, I'm not reading him as scum. I worded it poorly and clarified my thoughts. Where am I not making myself clear?

in the post you said "one of these people are scum", then list Koshi as one of them and then call him town....
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Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 22:18 GMT
#1780
koshi are you scum?
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Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 22:25 GMT
#1783
On July 25 2014 07:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
koshi are you scum?

No. Now tell me why you ask this again.

because you call me scum. and don't rescind the read.
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Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 22:30 GMT
#1786
On July 25 2014 07:27 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 03:00 Vivax wrote:
On July 25 2014 02:51 Chopin Liszt wrote:
what is that supposed to show vivax? although i like how koshi wants to sheep me/chopin but then doesn't actually vote for the same target


- He called you scum quite confidently earlier on and then entirely stopped caring about you close to deadline. Even said something about sheeping you by voting me when that was nowhere your intention, also he tries to glorify his former scumread.

- First he says something about your vote on Damdred being useless, later says Damdred had to step up like promised after I explained why Damdred was scum, he even said what he was doing was worse than in Storm.
Later, when he has to push me, he totally says that what Damdred is doing isn't scummy when compared to Storm, says he doesn't see the difference. Change of opinion is obviously of practical value so he can use it to paint me scummy at the same time by claiming that there's nothing scummy about Damdred I'm pushing.

- Then goes again with threatening Damdred and acting as if he was scummy.

- When asked about lynch option the only option is me.No compromises, he had multiple options from earlier, but it had to be me, the drill sergeant, his former scumread chopin becomes the guy we all should sheep.

- When he gets mad at you for not scumreading me, then it's like something he should be expecting anyway since he claims to have read both of us as scum. He'd only get mad if he didn't manage to convince you thinking you're a townie.

My 20000 ¢


How is this one of the better cases you've seen for a while? There is no evidence. I'm not doubting that some of these things have happened, but things can be taken out of context so easily as well. Like, I'm not interested in going back and trying to find everything that Viv is talking about. How can someone like Rayn read this and accept it as a good case, when he already admitted that he hasn't read most of EOD?

what the fuck? where have i said that's agood case?
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 22:31 GMT
#1787
On July 25 2014 07:27 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 07:20 Koshi wrote:
On July 25 2014 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
koshi are you scum?

No. Now tell me why you ask this again.

because you call me scum. and don't rescind the read.

You done fucking nothing towards the lynch and then you come back with some retarded "oh lynch is over". So I get mad.

And there is no reason to call you town.


But humor me and tell me why I should call you town.

I ma not saying you should call me town. I am saying you shouldn't call me scum, which you have done.
so why? what you just said does not make me mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 22:32 GMT
#1788
seriously teemu i am so fucking interested in this shit you are pulling off right now!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 22:35 GMT
#1791
w00t?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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July 24 2014 22:36 GMT
#1795
stfu Koshi. I don't even really think you are mafia so work with me okay?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 22:39 GMT
#1798
On July 25 2014 07:38 Koshi wrote:
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On July 25 2014 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
stfu Koshi. I don't even really think you are mafia so work with me okay?

WHY WOULD I WORK WITH YOU, YOU DUMB RETARD? YOU CALL ME MAFIA OR SHIT EVERY 3 POSTS YOU MAKE.


I call you shit when you call me mafia. Where have i called you mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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July 24 2014 22:41 GMT
#1801
On July 25 2014 07:37 Teemursu wrote:
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On July 25 2014 07:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 07:27 Teemursu wrote:
On July 25 2014 03:00 Vivax wrote:
On July 25 2014 02:51 Chopin Liszt wrote:
what is that supposed to show vivax? although i like how koshi wants to sheep me/chopin but then doesn't actually vote for the same target


- He called you scum quite confidently earlier on and then entirely stopped caring about you close to deadline. Even said something about sheeping you by voting me when that was nowhere your intention, also he tries to glorify his former scumread.

- First he says something about your vote on Damdred being useless, later says Damdred had to step up like promised after I explained why Damdred was scum, he even said what he was doing was worse than in Storm.
Later, when he has to push me, he totally says that what Damdred is doing isn't scummy when compared to Storm, says he doesn't see the difference. Change of opinion is obviously of practical value so he can use it to paint me scummy at the same time by claiming that there's nothing scummy about Damdred I'm pushing.

- Then goes again with threatening Damdred and acting as if he was scummy.

- When asked about lynch option the only option is me.No compromises, he had multiple options from earlier, but it had to be me, the drill sergeant, his former scumread chopin becomes the guy we all should sheep.

- When he gets mad at you for not scumreading me, then it's like something he should be expecting anyway since he claims to have read both of us as scum. He'd only get mad if he didn't manage to convince you thinking you're a townie.

My 20000 ¢


How is this one of the better cases you've seen for a while? There is no evidence. I'm not doubting that some of these things have happened, but things can be taken out of context so easily as well. Like, I'm not interested in going back and trying to find everything that Viv is talking about. How can someone like Rayn read this and accept it as a good case, when he already admitted that he hasn't read most of EOD?

what the fuck? where have i said that's agood case?

Sorry, I keep expressing myself really poorly. Remove the word "How" from that sentence, and it might make more sense. I'm not saying that you did, I'm saying that the way case is made, someone like you can't know it's a good case since you don't know the context/don't see the evidence.

ehh.. i don't get you would feel the need to say "rayn would / wouldn't accept this" as you directly appeal to me in your post right? why? i just don't get it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 22:42 GMT
#1802
Koshi that does not mean i read you as scum. You should know me better.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 22:45 GMT
#1804
On July 25 2014 07:43 Teemursu wrote:
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On July 25 2014 07:38 Koshi wrote:
On July 25 2014 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
stfu Koshi. I don't even really think you are mafia so work with me okay?

WHY WOULD I WORK WITH YOU, YOU DUMB RETARD? YOU CALL ME MAFIA OR SHIT EVERY 3 POSTS YOU MAKE.


Meh, Koshi, I wouldn't give up yet. Give it some time to cool off and come back later. We can still win this. Not -everyone- is going to instalynch you or me tomorrow just because CL and VIv have talked tonight.

Not sure about the OGI, though.

well this is a bad post.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 23:02 GMT
#1815
On July 25 2014 07:45 Teemursu wrote:
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On July 25 2014 07:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 07:37 Teemursu wrote:
On July 25 2014 07:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 07:27 Teemursu wrote:
On July 25 2014 03:00 Vivax wrote:
On July 25 2014 02:51 Chopin Liszt wrote:
what is that supposed to show vivax? although i like how koshi wants to sheep me/chopin but then doesn't actually vote for the same target


- He called you scum quite confidently earlier on and then entirely stopped caring about you close to deadline. Even said something about sheeping you by voting me when that was nowhere your intention, also he tries to glorify his former scumread.

- First he says something about your vote on Damdred being useless, later says Damdred had to step up like promised after I explained why Damdred was scum, he even said what he was doing was worse than in Storm.
Later, when he has to push me, he totally says that what Damdred is doing isn't scummy when compared to Storm, says he doesn't see the difference. Change of opinion is obviously of practical value so he can use it to paint me scummy at the same time by claiming that there's nothing scummy about Damdred I'm pushing.

- Then goes again with threatening Damdred and acting as if he was scummy.

- When asked about lynch option the only option is me.No compromises, he had multiple options from earlier, but it had to be me, the drill sergeant, his former scumread chopin becomes the guy we all should sheep.

- When he gets mad at you for not scumreading me, then it's like something he should be expecting anyway since he claims to have read both of us as scum. He'd only get mad if he didn't manage to convince you thinking you're a townie.

My 20000 ¢


How is this one of the better cases you've seen for a while? There is no evidence. I'm not doubting that some of these things have happened, but things can be taken out of context so easily as well. Like, I'm not interested in going back and trying to find everything that Viv is talking about. How can someone like Rayn read this and accept it as a good case, when he already admitted that he hasn't read most of EOD?

what the fuck? where have i said that's agood case?

Sorry, I keep expressing myself really poorly. Remove the word "How" from that sentence, and it might make more sense. I'm not saying that you did, I'm saying that the way case is made, someone like you can't know it's a good case since you don't know the context/don't see the evidence.

ehh.. i don't get you would feel the need to say "rayn would / wouldn't accept this" as you directly appeal to me in your post right? why? i just don't get it.

You and what you know was just the first/a good example that came to my mind when I was trying to express my thoughts on the case.

how do you know what i know about any of the ppl in this game?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 23:09 GMT
#1823
On July 25 2014 08:00 HaruRH wrote:
Can someone convince me why chopinlist isnt scum?

I can. not scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 23:10 GMT
#1824
On July 25 2014 08:04 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 07:45 Teemursu wrote:
On July 25 2014 07:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 07:37 Teemursu wrote:
On July 25 2014 07:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 07:27 Teemursu wrote:
On July 25 2014 03:00 Vivax wrote:
On July 25 2014 02:51 Chopin Liszt wrote:
what is that supposed to show vivax? although i like how koshi wants to sheep me/chopin but then doesn't actually vote for the same target


- He called you scum quite confidently earlier on and then entirely stopped caring about you close to deadline. Even said something about sheeping you by voting me when that was nowhere your intention, also he tries to glorify his former scumread.

- First he says something about your vote on Damdred being useless, later says Damdred had to step up like promised after I explained why Damdred was scum, he even said what he was doing was worse than in Storm.
Later, when he has to push me, he totally says that what Damdred is doing isn't scummy when compared to Storm, says he doesn't see the difference. Change of opinion is obviously of practical value so he can use it to paint me scummy at the same time by claiming that there's nothing scummy about Damdred I'm pushing.

- Then goes again with threatening Damdred and acting as if he was scummy.

- When asked about lynch option the only option is me.No compromises, he had multiple options from earlier, but it had to be me, the drill sergeant, his former scumread chopin becomes the guy we all should sheep.

- When he gets mad at you for not scumreading me, then it's like something he should be expecting anyway since he claims to have read both of us as scum. He'd only get mad if he didn't manage to convince you thinking you're a townie.

My 20000 ¢


How is this one of the better cases you've seen for a while? There is no evidence. I'm not doubting that some of these things have happened, but things can be taken out of context so easily as well. Like, I'm not interested in going back and trying to find everything that Viv is talking about. How can someone like Rayn read this and accept it as a good case, when he already admitted that he hasn't read most of EOD?

what the fuck? where have i said that's agood case?

Sorry, I keep expressing myself really poorly. Remove the word "How" from that sentence, and it might make more sense. I'm not saying that you did, I'm saying that the way case is made, someone like you can't know it's a good case since you don't know the context/don't see the evidence.

ehh.. i don't get you would feel the need to say "rayn would / wouldn't accept this" as you directly appeal to me in your post right? why? i just don't get it.

You and what you know was just the first/a good example that came to my mind when I was trying to express my thoughts on the case.

how do you know what i know about any of the ppl in this game?


You said you haven't read the EOD where most of the shit the case is based on happened. That is the context you're missing.

I thought you were talking about meta because that's what the line of quotes is concluded into?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 23:12 GMT
#1825
On July 25 2014 08:05 Koshi wrote:
And how is nobody taking any responsibility or even analyzing this incredible shitty Navillus lynch?

There wasn't a case on Navillus except the one from Palmar that I fucking destroyed. Like how the fuck can Navillus get lynched out of fucking nowhere? I am traveling home and suddenly Navillus gets marv, Xatalos and Vivax on him. With fucking Kush & VA already on him. And then the fucking hosts decides that is the perfect time to give a 10 minute warning the game is over and 3 more retards vote Navillus without thinking twice. Like... There hasn't been a single case on Navillus since the one from Palmar that I destroyed but w.e let's lynch this guy. Even though he made a couple big posts since then that looked extremely town. Yeah wait, I already said he was 100% town. No need to repeat this shit for the shitters.

But the funny part is. I AM THE ONE GETTING THE MOST FLAK FROM SHITTERS LIKE VIVAX BECAUSE NAVILLUS FLIPPED TOWN. BECAUSE I DEFENDED NAVILLUS AND WAS RIGHT.


HOW THE LIVING FUCK?? HOW????


DID I MISS ALL THE FUCKING CASES ON NAVILLUS OR SOMETHING?


WHERE ARE THEY?

hey you were travelling, not around. SCUM!
i just fucking wanted to do this because fuck you Koshi.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 23:17 GMT
#1830
On July 25 2014 08:15 HaruRH wrote:
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On July 25 2014 08:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 08:00 HaruRH wrote:
Can someone convince me why chopinlist isnt scum?

I can. not scum.

Thanks, now I know who else to lynch if chopin flips red

that's a good case dude!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 23:18 GMT
#1833
On July 25 2014 08:18 Koshi wrote:
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On July 25 2014 08:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 08:05 Koshi wrote:
And how is nobody taking any responsibility or even analyzing this incredible shitty Navillus lynch?

There wasn't a case on Navillus except the one from Palmar that I fucking destroyed. Like how the fuck can Navillus get lynched out of fucking nowhere? I am traveling home and suddenly Navillus gets marv, Xatalos and Vivax on him. With fucking Kush & VA already on him. And then the fucking hosts decides that is the perfect time to give a 10 minute warning the game is over and 3 more retards vote Navillus without thinking twice. Like... There hasn't been a single case on Navillus since the one from Palmar that I destroyed but w.e let's lynch this guy. Even though he made a couple big posts since then that looked extremely town. Yeah wait, I already said he was 100% town. No need to repeat this shit for the shitters.

But the funny part is. I AM THE ONE GETTING THE MOST FLAK FROM SHITTERS LIKE VIVAX BECAUSE NAVILLUS FLIPPED TOWN. BECAUSE I DEFENDED NAVILLUS AND WAS RIGHT.


HOW THE LIVING FUCK?? HOW????


DID I MISS ALL THE FUCKING CASES ON NAVILLUS OR SOMETHING?


WHERE ARE THEY?

hey you were travelling, not around. SCUM!
i just fucking wanted to do this because fuck you Koshi.

what is the point of this rayn?
explain.

you did the same thing. and it was as bad as my post.
i just wanted to fuck with you so you could see how fucking awful you are.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 23:21 GMT
#1837
On July 25 2014 08:19 Teemursu wrote:
Rayn can you explain why you think CL is town?

Who is CL? If you mean CR ick. He seemed town on D1 when i was around. I can't remember a single post of his after deadline. He could be mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 23:22 GMT
#1839
On July 25 2014 08:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 08:18 Koshi wrote:
On July 25 2014 08:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 08:05 Koshi wrote:
And how is nobody taking any responsibility or even analyzing this incredible shitty Navillus lynch?

There wasn't a case on Navillus except the one from Palmar that I fucking destroyed. Like how the fuck can Navillus get lynched out of fucking nowhere? I am traveling home and suddenly Navillus gets marv, Xatalos and Vivax on him. With fucking Kush & VA already on him. And then the fucking hosts decides that is the perfect time to give a 10 minute warning the game is over and 3 more retards vote Navillus without thinking twice. Like... There hasn't been a single case on Navillus since the one from Palmar that I destroyed but w.e let's lynch this guy. Even though he made a couple big posts since then that looked extremely town. Yeah wait, I already said he was 100% town. No need to repeat this shit for the shitters.

But the funny part is. I AM THE ONE GETTING THE MOST FLAK FROM SHITTERS LIKE VIVAX BECAUSE NAVILLUS FLIPPED TOWN. BECAUSE I DEFENDED NAVILLUS AND WAS RIGHT.


HOW THE LIVING FUCK?? HOW????


DID I MISS ALL THE FUCKING CASES ON NAVILLUS OR SOMETHING?


WHERE ARE THEY?

hey you were travelling, not around. SCUM!
i just fucking wanted to do this because fuck you Koshi.

what is the point of this rayn?
explain.

you did the same thing. and it was as bad as my post.
i just wanted to fuck with you so you could see how fucking awful you are.

How did I do the same thing?

whatever, go read your filter. or whatevs.
go away, you are too dumb to do anything reasonable atm.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 23:24 GMT
#1840
the red posts koshi. go read the fucking red posts in your filter.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 23:25 GMT
#1843
On July 25 2014 08:24 HaruRH wrote:
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On July 25 2014 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 08:15 HaruRH wrote:
On July 25 2014 08:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 08:00 HaruRH wrote:
Can someone convince me why chopinlist isnt scum?

I can. not scum.

Thanks, now I know who else to lynch if chopin flips red

that's a good case dude!

I put in the same amount of effort as you did in your read
So feel glad I posted 7 more words than your good read.

well you got 2 mafia! good job!
who is the third?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 23:33 GMT
#1847
On July 25 2014 08:26 Koshi wrote:
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On July 25 2014 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
the red posts koshi. go read the fucking red posts in your filter.

You were afk for 15 hours before the lynch and then right after the lynch came in with "oh lynch is over" and I can't get mad.

Since then you called me shit & scum or the 2 combined 3 times now.

And you still have no grisp on this game even though you have 11 pages of filter.



Like I am not kidding I will probably not speak to you anymore if you are scum this game. Because this isn't a game anymore. Not after the hosts (read Sentinel each time) decided to shit on everything and everybody and just change the deadline because why the fuck not.

call me scum if you are gonna call me scum. Don't call me scum for shit ok?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 23:38 GMT
#1850
I have not called you scum Koshi. If you read "are you scum?" as "you called me scum AMAGAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDD!" then you are overreacting.

Go reread.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 23:43 GMT
#1853
On July 25 2014 08:41 Teemursu wrote:
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On July 25 2014 08:37 Koshi wrote:
On July 24 2014 21:05 Koshi wrote:
On July 24 2014 21:05 Xatalos wrote:
On July 24 2014 21:02 Koshi wrote:
On July 24 2014 00:57 Koshi wrote:
Yeah, I could really lynch Cav as well. Damn. I fucking told him to be more friendly and buddy me in a previous game.

He is out of my sacred townlist.
On July 23 2014 23:16 Koshi wrote:
On July 23 2014 18:45 Koshi wrote:
On July 23 2014 18:36 HaruRH wrote:
On July 23 2014 18:32 Chairman Ray wrote:
[quote]

I don't think the list thing is alignment indicative. What gives you the impression that it's town?


Because koshi makes these listposts too and he dont want to be seen as a hypocrite for criticising it since he will do it too

All these people are already bad lynches for D1:
HaruRH
teemursu
ObiWanShinobi
Navillus
GlowingBear
kushm4sta
batsnacks
Damdred

I need to keep this updated for endgame gloating.
Bad lynches for D1:
HaruRH
teemursu
Navillus
Xatalos
kushm4sta
batsnacks
Damdred

Really good lynches for D1:
Vivax
ObiWanShinobi

I apologize to all my fans that I have to put somebody from the townlist straight into the can lynch list. These are grave mistakes.

Bad lynches for D1:
HaruRH
teemursu
Navillus
kushm4sta
batsnacks
Damdred
Palmar
VayneAuthority
raynpelikoneet
GlowingBear

Probably town but what can I do:
Xatalos

Special mention:
Chairman Ray

Really good lynches for D1:
Vivax
ObiWanShinobi
Chopin Liszt

------


Town MVP after game = thx.
I have a bad feeling Kush also has this list. Hmm. Crazy.


You can stop repeating that Vivax is scum when he's not getting lynched anyway.

Bad lynches for D1:
HaruRH
teemursu
Navillus
kushm4sta
batsnacks
Damdred
Palmar
VayneAuthority
raynpelikoneet
GlowingBear

Special mention:
Chairman Ray

Really good lynches for D1:
Vivax
ObiWanShinobi
Chopin Liszt
Xatalos

Like this list is so fucking gold it is scary.

And I had to work with the shitters D1 like Palmar/rayn/VA. GB also dumped some retardation in the thread endgame but what can I do?

Vivax has lied this game so many times. It is scary. And he says so much dumb shit.
Obiwan is his cocky self and refuses to solve this game. Somewhere he changed his play and became this new thing. Out of all people he is probably the best plynch and that means a lot if you have the D1 shitters like Palmar/rayn/VA.
Xatalos has done nothing this game, had most of the votes on him the entire game and then 3h before the lynch. (less because hosts decided to fuck us in the ass) to start softclaiming blue and do nothing else. Then 2 hours before the lynch he claims veteran because he wants to get shot by scum. And then a bit later he claims he was actually just a VT. And in the 3 hours before the lynch he did absolutely nothing except vote Navillus because WHO THE FUCK KNOWS.
Chopin Liszt Isn't off this list till he solves the game. Which is how we always approach marv. Which is why we can talk to him as if he is town. Because he most likely is. Unless he doesn't solve the game. This time he has a retardation handicap. Which will make it really hard for him to be taken serious if he survives the night.


But who do we lynch?

NAVILLUS. WHO COULDN'T be more town if he tried.

LIKE WHERE ARE THE CASES ON NAVILLUS? READ HIS FUCKING FILTER. SO FUCKING TOWN EXCEPT ONE POST. WHICH IS THE ONLY POST ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY TALKED ABOUT.


So, fucking, much, town.

even before that yes.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 23:48 GMT
#1856
i wanna play mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 23:51 GMT
#1858
GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 23:51 GMT
#1859
*martyrs
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 23:53 GMT
#1864
haha are chopin and koshi mafia?
GB can you get ly logic in my post?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2014 23:58 GMT
#1871
chopin & koshi call me scum or whatever.
you need to follow up. both of you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 25 2014 00:01 GMT
#1876
On July 25 2014 08:58 Koshi wrote:
Which one is it?

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On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are scum.



Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are town.


town
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 25 2014 00:02 GMT
#1877
On July 25 2014 08:59 Koshi wrote:
and why. Cuz I don't get it.

l2p or roll town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 25 2014 00:03 GMT
#1880
On July 25 2014 09:02 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 09:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 08:58 Koshi wrote:
Which one is it?

On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are scum.



On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are town.


town

So the second one is right? you do realize you posted the first version?

i didn't read your quotes.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 25 2014 00:06 GMT
#1884
On July 25 2014 09:03 Koshi wrote:
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On July 25 2014 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 08:59 Koshi wrote:
and why. Cuz I don't get it.

l2p or roll town.

5th time you call me trash and scum.

i am not calling you scum you fuckface. i am calling you an idiot because after i started playing again in every game i have been in you have been.. a fuckface. so go on and be like that. i don't care because i am not your babysitter. i can read you but if you are not helping don't tell me i am scum for some whiny shit.

play the game like Koshi plays, or dealwithme.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 25 2014 00:09 GMT
#1888
If i had ever called you mafia i would have voted for you.
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July 25 2014 00:14 GMT
#1892
On July 25 2014 09:11 Koshi wrote:
rayn

Which one is it? This is the one you posted:

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On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are scum.



This is why I said "you meant town" because this makes more sense to me. And you called me scum for.
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On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are town.


I DONT KNPOW WHAT YOU ARE ASKING?!"""""""
FUCKING MAKE IT CLEAR YOU FUCKING IDIOT!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 25 2014 00:14 GMT
#1894
TOWN* MAFIA ORONBEA MAFIA RTOWN MAFIA"""""""""""!?"?!"!

WH/?=?== you so scum1
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 25 2014 00:14 GMT
#1895
f7uck you koshi
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raynpelikoneet
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July 25 2014 00:16 GMT
#1897
yeah. i am off. koshi is town but i hate koshi and he'll never get my respect anymore.
gn.

idiot
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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July 25 2014 00:20 GMT
#1900
On July 25 2014 09:16 Koshi wrote:
rayn, what sentence did you mean?

Which one is it? This is the one you posted:

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On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are scum.



This is why I said "you meant town" because this makes more sense to me. And you called me scum for.
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On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are town.



no i didn't you fuckface unless you can prove it.
go ahead. go quote a post where i called you scum for that.

FUCKING IDIOT! you just wanted about 1h of your time. <3<3<33<3<3
i am serious, i don't like you any more koshi.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 25 2014 00:25 GMT
#1904
i have never read a post where koshi makes mafia -> town.
I fhis case on me is that, he can go fuck himself.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 25 2014 00:26 GMT
#1906
and no, i won't cut it out because because....
Koshi is being a dick towards me, so i can - and imo am allowed to return the favor.
He is town but i want him to feel how fucking wrong he is in this game. Like so fucking wrong!

go try to lynch me Koshi!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 25 2014 00:30 GMT
#1911
On July 25 2014 09:26 Chopin Liszt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 09:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 08:58 Koshi wrote:
Which one is it?

On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are scum.



On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are town.


town


I assumed he asked me if i think GB is town or scum. I might be bad at reading posts but FUCKING TELL ME WHAT I HAVE RESPONDED TO and not say "you said he is town and you said he is mfia blablanandnbsolfdå,ö"

fuck.- sio hard.
gn.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 25 2014 00:32 GMT
#1913
yeah i concede i have not read the thread pretty well. nor the posts. don't have enough time.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 25 2014 00:34 GMT
#1916
you did it yourself Koshi. i am sad.
gn.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 25 2014 00:35 GMT
#1917
On July 25 2014 09:34 Chopin Liszt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 09:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 09:26 Chopin Liszt wrote:
On July 25 2014 09:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 08:58 Koshi wrote:
Which one is it?

On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are scum.



On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are town.


town


I assumed he asked me if i think GB is town or scum. I might be bad at reading posts but FUCKING TELL ME WHAT I HAVE RESPONDED TO and not say "you said he is town and you said he is mfia blablanandnbsolfdå,ö"

fuck.- sio hard.
gn.


No you said unless all martyrs are scum. Koshi said should it be all martyrs are town. I don't know why he said that because that would flip around the start of your sentence too but he asked it nonetheless. Your replied that it should be town making it look like you typod the first one but then yelled at koshi for some reason that i don't understand either.

i don't even know what i said and idgaf. lynch me for it.
tomorrow.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 25 2014 00:56 GMT
#1921
i am not scumreding you. idiot.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 25 2014 01:10 GMT
#1925
i don't have the patience to look over what koshi says. i just don't.
make a case koshi if you think i am mafia. don't just quote some shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 25 2014 01:29 GMT
#1930
thank fucking you. now i can go sleep.
still not will smith, koshi you need to find me mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 27 2014 08:56 GMT
#2967
What's going on?
Who are we lynching?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 27 2014 08:59 GMT
#2969
oh nvm, i just read the daypost. gg and sorry for posting.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 27 2014 19:46 GMT
#3257
Sorry for posting after death, i didn't receive the obs QT and i thought i was alive.
I dunno where i was being a dick, i was being a dick to people who were being dick to me.
If someone has a problem with it please PM me about it. I don't want andyone to feel bad about it, i just can't see what i did was "dickish".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-29 14:45:41
July 29 2014 14:41 GMT
#3287
I call shit conclusions shit. As scum and as town. You started it Koshi.
I still have no idea what i have said to Cava so could you tell me Koshi sa you seem to know?

nvm: i can see it now. dumb case because it's not alignment indicative in any way. I can't make myself have more time as either alignment. Probably should have used a different wording so sorry for that Cava.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 29 2014 15:09 GMT
#3291
whatever. still love you Koshi <3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 29 2014 15:20 GMT
#3293
btw i have now been vigged twice on N1 as scum. Reasoning: "i don't like you".
mafia affiliation sure does hate me for some reason.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-29 15:29:41
July 29 2014 15:29 GMT
#3295
On July 30 2014 00:21 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
btw i have now been vigged twice on N1 as scum. Reasoning: "i don't like you".
mafia affiliation sure does hate me for some reason.

You come across as more of a dick when you're mafia. Pretty simple :p

I could understand it if you or someone who knows my play vigged me. But that's not the case.
EDIT: no, not really anyone else than you. There is ~2ppl who can actually read me - as scum, when i am scum (maybe missing someone).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 29 2014 18:43 GMT
#3303
On July 30 2014 02:10 Holyflare wrote:
It's not even entirely related to just me. Lots of day 1 was just people throwing out useless insults and accusations with no evidence or any sense of logic. We need some more gmarshal games because people aren't playing this game abd are honestly making it a chore to wade through shit instead of fun to play.

Yeah this is true. I personally have nothing against this because it's a perfectly valid mafia strategy (or a perfectly valid strategy to lynch town as scum). It's a problem when people do not realize this is shit. Or idk, maybe i am just bad and new people are better and have better ways of finding scum. Who knows.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-29 18:52:11
July 29 2014 18:46 GMT
#3304
On July 30 2014 02:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 30 2014 00:21 marvellosity wrote:
On July 30 2014 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
btw i have now been vigged twice on N1 as scum. Reasoning: "i don't like you".
mafia affiliation sure does hate me for some reason.

You come across as more of a dick when you're mafia. Pretty simple :p

I could understand it if you or someone who knows my play vigged me. But that's not the case.
EDIT: no, not really anyone else than you. There is ~2ppl who can actually read me - as scum, when i am scum (maybe missing someone).

I think you're overestimating your scum play

I know cases against me and i actually try to learn from them. There is nothing to learn from "you're an ass" or "you didn't post for x amount of time". It's not my fault i have better things to do when playing mafia when people decide to roll me scum (lately). I srsly have not seen anyone make a real case on me, except for marv and one another dude on another forum.

Edit: I really don't even care how good/bad i am as scum because this game with people playing at the decent level is fucking insane to play as mafia. Town's are so good nowadays. I don't care if i lose as mafia, i care if i lose to some stuopid shit (or not really, i would just want to make people know this stupid shit should not happen when i am town - because then i WOULd call ppl bad for it). A couple of days ago i also got lynched (as town) in another game where i called out all mafia (and then it was my bday and i couldn't do shit) - because of people just DIDN'T READ THE THREAD closely enough!

Overall I don't think i have played bad as mafia if people have me as scum by PoE. it's just... nocando. When people say shit like "you posted one hour after deadline - lynch that motherfucker!!!!" it's terrible.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 29 2014 19:21 GMT
#3308
On July 30 2014 04:17 Damdred wrote:
I don't think you played badly as mafia this game ray at all, there was one time when you refused to catch up to what happened at eod night one where I suspected something was off about you but I wouldn't of randomly shot you for it at that point either.

If you have read the scum QT i really didn't have the time to play. I think i would have been acting pretty closely as i did as town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 29 2014 19:23 GMT
#3310
On July 30 2014 04:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote: At one point, people were voting him and he just said "stop that I'm town," and people unvoted.

yes and this is stupid.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 29 2014 19:27 GMT
#3312
On July 30 2014 04:22 slOosh wrote:
General Day 1 atmosphere felt terrible, even way before lynch.

People were just voting whoever they wanted to and doing whatever they felt like, and there was no centralized discussion, just a giant pile of mess. It's really easy for scum to deflect lynches on themselves onto someone else since there are so many suspicions and finger pointing, and at the end of the day it's really difficult to sift through the day to see what was scum motivated and what wasn't since everyone was doing it.

Source: I did the vote counts. They were hard.

I think i posted in the scum QT something like "okay now we are all town and this is so fucking bad for the town" - when i shuffled things up. I really didn't think someone would actually SHOOT me for being an ass haha. :D

Then Sentinel (and you) forgot(?) to send me the obs QT link. I really had like 5min on D2 and i just wanted to sheep someone, the first guy who said anything. I didn't know who was dead, i didn't know anything about anything because.. party. I just got on and saw "oh no notifications, no obs QT, i am alive" and decided to post. ^_^

gj batsnacks but i would also advice you to not do that again, it does not work 100%, not even 50%, even on me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 29 2014 20:16 GMT
#3315
haha marv <3
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