IV Titanic Mafia: It Has Been a Privilege

On July 23 2014 03:03 Xatalos wrote:
##Vote raynpelikoneet

Sigh

On July 23 2014 11:15 kushm4sta wrote:

huh?
There's no reason to plynch him. Judge him by his reads.

On July 23 2014 11:16 GlowingBear wrote:


You can start reading what people are talking about Xatalos and pick a side XD

On July 23 2014 15:08 kushm4sta wrote:
obi u scum?

On July 23 2014 15:10 Teemursu wrote:

I feel like this is mafia trying to insert themselves into conversation while not knowing how.

On July 23 2014 15:26 Teemursu wrote:

Then why don't you start one? Who do you think is mafia and why?

On July 23 2014 15:45 Teemursu wrote:

Not really, you're asking others what we should do/talk about/who to lynch instead of providing any of your own original content. I don't really count that as contributing to making conversation because you're more so only spectating/directing the traffic, which is anti-town.

Besides, you voted on Haru, I asked you why. So, how about you answer me?

On July 23 2014 16:03 Teemursu wrote:

Not for sheeping. Because you can't substantiate yourself. If you can, why aren't you doing it already instead of getting mad?

On July 23 2014 16:56 HaruRH wrote:
Its alright cava im here to whisper all kinds of sweet nothingness into your tender ear

*sugar*

On July 23 2014 17:05 Palmar wrote:
he says 4 things in that post, all of it is timid, indecisive and doesn't really show any kind of a real stance he looks like he's pushing. It's all over the place which makes it less likely that any of the 4 points made in the post actually get responded to or followed up on. If someone is truly interested in something, they tend to focus on that, and that alone. Navillus is pretending to be interested in a bunch of things.

The request of Teemursu is pointless, and a tone read tells me that such a request would be put last in a post by a townie, because if he has an actual point, it'd be the first thing in the post.

He sort of calls my post a "problem post" without taking any stance on it. Contrast it with ObiWan's decisive "If Palmar doesn't do anything, we lynch him". He then immediately stops talking about it and goes for some random request of a vote explanation, without providing any kind of expectation for that explanation or reasoning why he needs it.

Then he asks two random players about three other random players without saying anything about it himself.

On July 24 2014 01:09 Koshi wrote:
ahhhhh I remember why i had Obiwan as town.

Because he was so happy to get a townread if he posted quickly. I do'nt know if I can go back on that.

hmm

On July 24 2014 01:57 kushm4sta wrote:
rayn how are you reading obiwan currently? i seem to remember you saying something about him but i cant find it in your filter.

koshi, your reason for townreading him is terribad btw.

On July 24 2014 01:58 kushm4sta wrote:


no he doesn't. what game(s) are you referring to?

On July 24 2014 02:02 Vivax wrote:
Obi, Palmar whispered in your ear. He said: Vote navillus.

On July 24 2014 02:10 kushm4sta wrote:
that is a kickass name

leaning scum. it's in my filter.
things i find contradicting in his read on Xatalos/damdred.

On July 24 2014 02:15 kushm4sta wrote:
obi, what happened to your haru read?
So according to you I am mafia because I am reading you wrong, and there's no way I could read you wrong as town?

On July 24 2014 02:19 Vivax wrote:




This was before he explicated the reasons. Do you find yourself only agreeing with the case after he did so or is there something of your own you wanna say about navi.

On July 24 2014 02:28 Vivax wrote:


The purpose is to know when and why you started considering voting navi since you asked Palmar what was scummy about that, and now I want to know if it's that very same post that makes you consider lynching him.

On July 24 2014 02:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:

no you don't. but did you read the other post of mine?

On July 24 2014 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:

and i need an explanation why you seem to pop in only just when someone calls you mafia lately?

On July 24 2014 03:46 Vivax wrote:


You can also genuinely try to find mafia.

What is this defeatism.

im not going to say exactly why i think you're mafia yet.

On July 24 2014 03:49 GlowingBear wrote:


Thread is 40 pages long. If you have not even a slight scumread you're not reading the topic / you don't want to draw attention

On July 24 2014 04:01 Vivax wrote:
Obi, you aren't scum again right?
It would be a pity to get lynched as scum D1 three times in a row I would probably jump off a bridge.

On July 24 2014 04:38 kushm4sta wrote:
obi I find it fake how you are like flabbergasted that people think you're scum.
you gave one read about haru being scum because he thought it was a good idea to plynch. that is not a townie indicative read.

On July 24 2014 04:50 kushm4sta wrote:


u gave current scumreads but not reasons behind those reads.

On July 24 2014 16:20 Teemursu wrote:

Who's telling you if you should or shouldn't?

##unvote
##vote: ObiwanShinobi

Too much attitude. Vivax still scum.

As mafia you're more likely to complain about things that may or may not be true while not doing anything about it. Good to know though that you're already helping yourself getting lynched by saying I'm making sense. Guilty conscience much?

Not really, you're asking others what we should do/talk about/who to lynch instead of providing any of your own original content. I don't really count that as contributing to making conversation because you're more so only spectating/directing the traffic, which is anti-town.

Besides, you voted on Haru, I asked you why. So, how about you answer me?

Also, trying to discredit me because I've played only one game of forum mafia is pretty funny, considering I've played a bunch of video mafia and generally have pretty good d1 reads.

There have been reasons for me to "gun" you and you're not helping yourself.

On July 25 2014 00:36 kushm4sta wrote:


vote navillus please

On July 25 2014 00:53 Vivax wrote:
Obi and Dam might have been better, but in retrospect it's always easy to say that.

On July 25 2014 01:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
when is the lynch?

On July 25 2014 01:29 Teemursu wrote:

I point out how fucking wrong you are, and all you can say is "STFU"?

You're obviously an amazing player yourself. Lynching all dat scum, etc.

For the sake of your intelligence's reputation, I hope you're mafia.

On July 25 2014 01:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:

that would be a no.

On July 25 2014 01:49 Vivax wrote:
Kick me bite me give me an animal name.

On July 25 2014 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i have started to like vivax.
what's the current case on him?

On July 25 2014 01:45 Teemursu wrote:


Holy shit, I'll just spell it out for you. Palmar thing was partly a joke, it was a reference to what he's said earlier. Partly it's true. Mafia like to joke about themselves being mafia, in a sense. It's kind of related to guilty conscience.

I never actually called you mafia for sheeping anyone. I did it to apply pressure. I later said that and you're obviously not paying attention. I didn't call you mafia because you've been rude as fuck.

To see you act like this is so frustrating. Not doing shit and getting BM about people calling you mafia for reasons that they aren't actually calling you mafia, and then saying those reasons are bad or w/e probably shouldn't get you a town pass.

On July 25 2014 11:19 Damdred wrote:


Obi who do you thinks scummy right now?

On July 25 2014 14:38 kushm4sta wrote:
what's wrong with killing someone for sheeping?

On July 26 2014 01:16 Vivax wrote:
Obi did you shoot rayn?

On July 26 2014 00:58 Koshi wrote:

please help town solve the game tomorrow. No bullshit. No arrogance.

Just solid scumhunting.


Thank you.

On July 26 2014 01:37 Koshi wrote:

So about this scumhunting...

On July 26 2014 16:10 Teemursu wrote:

Didn't someone rescind their claim?

On July 26 2014 16:16 batsnacks wrote:
Please say you believe. It will make my day 3 so much easier.

On July 26 2014 16:34 Xatalos wrote:
Although I'm a bit skeptical that VA would notice the breadcrumb when he barely plays the game anyway.

On July 26 2014 16:37 batsnacks wrote:
ObiWanShinobi

I'm trying to be really clear here:



Do you believe VayneWuthority knew I was the real vig at the time of this posting?

On July 26 2014 20:50 Koshi wrote:
Obiwan. Evertything you said is not happening. I am townreading you and damdred. VA is an entirely other story. CR explains it really good.

On July 27 2014 04:22 Koshi wrote:

Can we get some sort of "Obiwan total view of the game" post from you?

Something that proves you are following this game, thinking about this game and contains your solution to winning this game.

On July 27 2014 04:51 Xatalos wrote:


Oh, and to this (forgot to post earlier):

I had a similar problem in Golden Sun where I just couldn't find great (or even decent) lynches. Although in that game it was made worse by the conversion mechanics. Here that problem doesn't exist, but I guess all the scum are pretty good at avoiding errors / blending in.

I don't think I can make a good case atm. There are various slightly suspicious posts by several people but nothing really truly stands out. At least in my opinion, at the moment. That's kind of why I'd want to the safe route and lynch someone like VA (okay chance of being scum, nothing lost if town).

On July 27 2014 05:04 Xatalos wrote:
Hm. I guess VA+ObiWan could work as a potential team?

On July 27 2014 06:20 batsnacks wrote:


It's Obiwan and Xatalos.

On July 27 2014 16:25 Vivax wrote:
Good morning.

Bats, you realize that you are the counterclaim and vayne just is some claimer. Not that it matters much but just to get things right.

However I like the idea that it was a scum strategy to lure out the real vig.
Could also have been the town agenda to play like an idiot and laugh at us, either way he should probably be lynched.

##Unvote
##Vote VA

On July 27 2014 16:50 Vivax wrote:
Xata just lay back and watch the pros at work. You don't need to doubt me, it's still my good ol' townie self.

The only sad thing is that when it's morning for me Obi goes to bed, so I can't really do the work the pro way cause he can leave and I can't stop him.

On July 27 2014 16:53 Xatalos wrote:
This is scum Vivax: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/423047-got-mafia-lords-and-liars?user=Vivax

Now compare his activity and overall interest in what happens in the thread to this game.

Granted it looks like Vivax stopped caring at some point around the start of D2 :/

On July 27 2014 16:58 Vivax wrote:
It's like whenever he posts Cav is scared shitless of getting murdered and saying anything, and the worst part is that I don't dare saying it's his town or scum play cause I'm afraid that's simply how he really is, or is it just his scum self?

On July 27 2014 17:03 Xatalos wrote:
Actually I meant that his activity and interest in the game has been pretty different from his scumgame. It's just that I don't really like how he's been D2. Or early D1 for that matter.

On July 27 2014 17:11 Vivax wrote:
Maybe Xata is scum after all.

Obi bites at me and Xata starts delivering information casually that can be interpreted either way without really having a strong stance on me himself.

Obi, imagine for a moment that we're both town, how do you see Xata's behaviour fitting into our fight? Do you feel like he's been trying to indicate into a particular direction with his latest posts?

On July 27 2014 17:18 Vivax wrote:
Wake up 3 h before deadline and report in or I'll be pushing for your lynch.

When you're not here to fight it.

Bwahahahahaha

On July 27 2014 17:20 Vivax wrote:
I want you to unvote now.

If I find out your vote is on me at deadline and you didn't post until then you're confirmed scum.

On July 27 2014 16:25 Vivax wrote:
Good morning.

Bats, you realize that you are the counterclaim and vayne just is some claimer. Not that it matters much but just to get things right.

However I like the idea that it was a scum strategy to lure out the real vig.
Could also have been the town agenda to play like an idiot and laugh at us, either way he should probably be lynched.

##Unvote
##Vote VA

On July 27 2014 21:50 Vivax wrote:
Screw that actually I retract the dangly townread, still possible mafia.

He agreed with mine and HF's cases during the night, didn't see him act up on it.

I honestly have no idea wtf this guy is doing, but he still has more filter than CR.

On July 28 2014 00:26 Vivax wrote:
Whatever, Obi, I'm not sure about you but I think today it's either CR or Vayne dying.

Tell me who you think is more likely scum between Vayne and CR, you won't take long to read three pages of filter.

On July 28 2014 01:30 Vivax wrote:


Told you I'm a drill sergeant.
You won't have to scrub toilets now, good job!

On July 28 2014 01:46 Koshi wrote:
Palmar gets shot every day 1.
It's kinda insane.

On July 28 2014 03:14 Holyflare wrote:


Yes, sorry to all those people too.

Mass claiming day 1 would break this game btw

On July 28 2014 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sorry for posting after death, i didn't receive the obs QT and i thought i was alive.
I dunno where i was being a dick, i was being a dick to people who were being dick to me.
If someone has a problem with it please PM me about it. I don't want andyone to feel bad about it, i just can't see what i did was "dickish".