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On July 25 2014 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 05:31 Chopin Liszt wrote:On July 25 2014 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2014 02:03 Chopin Liszt wrote:
haru/cav/rayn appearing when they did totally scummy btw Like you literally believe me or not. Which is it? One answer makes me 100% mafia, another one does not. What kind of silly question is this? If you want me to throw a coin to answer just tell me. are you marv?
No hf.
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Unless you think i have the scum team as haru/obi/rayn then your argument is dumb, i also have no reason to lie about who is posting.
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On July 25 2014 05:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 05:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2014 05:44 Koshi wrote:On July 25 2014 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2014 05:42 Chopin Liszt wrote:On July 25 2014 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2014 05:31 Chopin Liszt wrote:On July 25 2014 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2014 02:03 Chopin Liszt wrote:
haru/cav/rayn appearing when they did totally scummy btw Like you literally believe me or not. Which is it? One answer makes me 100% mafia, another one does not. What kind of silly question is this? If you want me to throw a coin to answer just tell me. are you marv? No hf. I do not believe you. It is a smurf. One is HF the other is unknown but likes to suck assholes. Like literally assholes. i know the other half is HF. Like i read the thread. I think the other half is marv and their posts sounded like marv's a while ago. I don't kinda spend time on smurfhunting but if marv has been calling me scum on N1 he is scum, totally. marv called me scum and I have a 10 page filter. I know he is scum.
Chopin said no such thing.
Please refer to my pretty coloured list for what my last read on you was.
Holyflare will be given beatings until morale improves.
Chopin
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For the record, I haven't posted since Holyflare said "I am back  " or whatever the exact post was.
Chopin
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No, I think rayn is town. I got over my deadline jitters about how he showed up.
Chopin
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On July 25 2014 06:40 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 06:35 Chopin Liszt wrote:For the record, I haven't posted since Holyflare said "I am back " or whatever the exact post was. Chopin Wait, this is interesting. Are you agreeing with Viv about me being mafia now, or was it Holyflare/Liszt?
Jesus christ. If he hasn't been back since I've been posting and i posted all the stuff about your then it's clearly me.
Also rayn I've posted stuff about people bitching at deadline you should read it.
-hf
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On July 25 2014 06:43 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 06:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2014 06:36 Teemursu wrote:On July 25 2014 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2014 06:29 Teemursu wrote:On July 25 2014 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
vivax. i'll be honest with you. i've been bothered with phonecalls all night long so i have really no fkn idea what happened after p50 -> lynch. who do you think is scum? Koshi and Teemu? who else? You should read that stuff, it's pretty interesting. ehh.. why? what i see is Navillus got lynched and then people bitched about him getting lynched and yelled "this X dude is 100% scum". Those ppl are probably scum (based on heuristics which is bad). What do i gain in reading those pages and why have you not convinced me (with posts that actually could make me read) those pages are important? You can't just say THERE WAS A LOT OF COOL STUFF! If noone talks about it it was probably bad. I'm talking about before Nav got lynched. There was a lot of vote switching and people going apeshit. Shit got real for once and you can probably read people's alignment really well from that. okay so let me rephrase; as i was afk (so by not having read all the thread), i think if noone says anything about those things that happened it's not important. there are 12 townies left, if none of those 11 find stuff important should i trust them or not? like obviously i think i am better than anyone else in this game but still... if EVERYONE is ignorant about something, why should i care? Not true. I think it's highly likely that there are mafia in Chopin, Viv, Koshi and others would say me, but I know I am town. Viv and Chopin's hydra have been going pretty hard against me and hydra now based off of those interactions. Some people kinda pushed others to vote on Nav, who was a miss, and I want to look into that more d2, off to sleep soon and I don't really have the energy for that.
It was HF who was scumreading you. But unlike with the Koshi thing, there are no beatings for that one from me. Primarily because you're pushing so hard/repeatedly about the people on Navillus being suspicious for doing so, when that only makes sense if the alternative(s) are mafia, which I don't think they are. Pushing the idea is ridiculous until you've resolved the alignments of the alternative wagons.
Chopin
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On July 25 2014 06:43 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 06:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2014 06:36 Teemursu wrote:On July 25 2014 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2014 06:29 Teemursu wrote:On July 25 2014 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
vivax. i'll be honest with you. i've been bothered with phonecalls all night long so i have really no fkn idea what happened after p50 -> lynch. who do you think is scum? Koshi and Teemu? who else? You should read that stuff, it's pretty interesting. ehh.. why? what i see is Navillus got lynched and then people bitched about him getting lynched and yelled "this X dude is 100% scum". Those ppl are probably scum (based on heuristics which is bad). What do i gain in reading those pages and why have you not convinced me (with posts that actually could make me read) those pages are important? You can't just say THERE WAS A LOT OF COOL STUFF! If noone talks about it it was probably bad. I'm talking about before Nav got lynched. There was a lot of vote switching and people going apeshit. Shit got real for once and you can probably read people's alignment really well from that. okay so let me rephrase; as i was afk (so by not having read all the thread), i think if noone says anything about those things that happened it's not important. there are 12 townies left, if none of those 11 find stuff important should i trust them or not? like obviously i think i am better than anyone else in this game but still... if EVERYONE is ignorant about something, why should i care? Not true. I think it's highly likely that there are mafia in Chopin, Viv, Koshi and others would say me, but I know I am town. Viv and Chopin's hydra have been going pretty hard against me and hydra now based off of those interactions. Some people kinda pushed others to vote on Nav, who was a miss, and I want to look into that more d2, off to sleep soon and I don't really have the energy for that.
If this is the case why are you blindly throwing out blanket statements regarding people being mafia instead of refuting the cases made on you? Why is koshi now in your mafia containing list after you said he was your super town person?
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The baseless discrediting is not helping your case.
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On July 25 2014 06:52 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 06:48 Chopin Liszt wrote:On July 25 2014 06:43 Teemursu wrote:On July 25 2014 06:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2014 06:36 Teemursu wrote:On July 25 2014 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2014 06:29 Teemursu wrote:On July 25 2014 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
vivax. i'll be honest with you. i've been bothered with phonecalls all night long so i have really no fkn idea what happened after p50 -> lynch. who do you think is scum? Koshi and Teemu? who else? You should read that stuff, it's pretty interesting. ehh.. why? what i see is Navillus got lynched and then people bitched about him getting lynched and yelled "this X dude is 100% scum". Those ppl are probably scum (based on heuristics which is bad). What do i gain in reading those pages and why have you not convinced me (with posts that actually could make me read) those pages are important? You can't just say THERE WAS A LOT OF COOL STUFF! If noone talks about it it was probably bad. I'm talking about before Nav got lynched. There was a lot of vote switching and people going apeshit. Shit got real for once and you can probably read people's alignment really well from that. okay so let me rephrase; as i was afk (so by not having read all the thread), i think if noone says anything about those things that happened it's not important. there are 12 townies left, if none of those 11 find stuff important should i trust them or not? like obviously i think i am better than anyone else in this game but still... if EVERYONE is ignorant about something, why should i care? Not true. I think it's highly likely that there are mafia in Chopin, Viv, Koshi and others would say me, but I know I am town. Viv and Chopin's hydra have been going pretty hard against me and hydra now based off of those interactions. Some people kinda pushed others to vote on Nav, who was a miss, and I want to look into that more d2, off to sleep soon and I don't really have the energy for that. It was HF who was scumreading you. But unlike with the Koshi thing, there are no beatings for that one from me. Primarily because you're pushing so hard/repeatedly about the people on Navillus being suspicious for doing so, when that only makes sense if the alternative(s) are mafia, which I don't think they are. Pushing the idea is ridiculous until you've resolved the alignments of the alternative wagons. Chopin You seem to make much more sense than HolyFlare. Could you just cut his head off and continue playing this as solo?` Thing is, I'm not calling out everyone who voted on Navi yet, I just think it wasn't a good lynch at all. Even if you don't think that Viv is mafia, we probably should've lynched either Damdred or Obi (in hindsight, which isn't really a great way to look at things). You don' t think any of the alternative wagons are mafia? Regardless of Navi getting ML'd and the people wagoning on him?
Liszt was always a more capricious composer than Chopin, whose melodies were sweeter than strawberries.
Navillus was a good lynch compared to Xatalos and Vivax I think. Compared to Obi or Damdred - perhaps not. Unfortunately townies aren't blessed with perfect information and foresight...
I voted Nav purely because no-one was getting on Obiwan and Nav wasn't a bad lynch compared to xata or Vivax.
Chopin
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On July 25 2014 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ehhhh.. If you read Koshi town why do you read him as scum?
Exactly the point
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What kind of terrible logic is it to say that you town read yourself and koshi but then say there's probably scum in your town read and the only 2 people in the thread making cases? It doesn't even make sense from any perspective.
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If you think vivax is mafia then the case he made on koshi is fabricated and scum motivated. It's actually one of the better cases I've seen in a long time and you haven't even so much as said a word about it and still stick to koshi being a town read.
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/facepalm
Please just start posting seals
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You're sitting here giving out reads on people like it's information you've gathered and it's concrete and you haven't actually read the rest of the thread.
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Let's just get this out of the way with a little exercise:
A) i am reading vivax as mafia because:
B) i am reading koshi as town because:
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There's literally a post above the vivax case that contains all the quotes. How can you dismiss it as "little evidence". That just means YOU can't be bothered to read it in context. I honestly can't believe the attitude of some of the newer players om this site that think it's good to be sarcastic and twatish instead of actually talking things through. Utterly disgraceful.
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On July 25 2014 07:48 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 07:46 Chopin Liszt wrote:
There's literally a post above the vivax case that contains all the quotes. How can you dismiss it as "little evidence". That just means YOU can't be bothered to read it in context. I honestly can't believe the attitude of some of the newer players om this site that think it's good to be sarcastic and twatish instead of actually talking things through. Utterly disgraceful. Are you this fucking terrible?
Can you stop being a selfish dick for 5 seconds and explain things without using the words terrible, quitting or vivax? All you've talked about is how teemu is so town and don't acknowledge anything that's said about him whatsoever and instead say we're all shit for mafia reading him instead. Grow up this game doesn't revolve around your asinine baseless rants.
If you want people to listen talk things through and convince people because as it stands you're looking terrible for not doing that.
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Well i didn't know your sheeping thing was a joke when i read through because i assumed it was related to you sheeping chopin on his reasoning for xata being probably town so to me it looked like you were sheeping your scum reads reasoning for a person being town.
It also implies that you are switching your reads to opportunistically bolster your attack on vivax and that when you've done that you later renege on this switch to leave your options open a la damd scum read.
Finally you berate chopin for not scum reading vivax but you had us as your scum read too which implied you knew we were town.
All 3 of those things are mafia things. (well 2 if you imply your sheep thing was a joke)
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