|
On July 24 2014 16:37 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 16:20 Teemursu wrote:On July 24 2014 15:20 Vivax wrote:
Besides I'm not sure yet whether I should scumread you but that one gave me a bad impression. Who's telling you if you should or shouldn't? Myself.
Point is, there shouldn't be any should or shouldn't. you either do or you don't.
|
On July 24 2014 00:47 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 24 2014 00:15 Xatalos wrote:On July 24 2014 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit. I think I did mention that it's stupid to call me "infinitely scummy" for a single listpost, but overall I don't feel like it's inherently scummy to make bad cases. It's D1 after all, good cases are rare. no it's not scummy to make bad cases. that's not what i am suggesting. did you even read my post and what it was referring to? i am not calling anyone mafia for making bad cases. damdred made a posts that really said nothing. he didn't follow that up in any way - even when there were questions which you didn't even answer. Cava called damdred town for that post, then he called you not necessarily scum. first of all that post was not good, second, he cannot give damdred a town read if he does not think you are scummy. because he didn't call the case bad. you either agree with a case or not, he didn't do either but STILL the post was somehow good. like, he semi-agreed with it without saying so. wishy-washy as fuck. Haru called you out for buddying after those two guys. Buddying is not scummy unless you explain why. Stupid as fuck. Teemu called you scummy for who knows why. Now why didn't YOU call these people out for those things? Like do you want people just attack you for dumb shit and do nothing about it? Or scared of saying something that is ACTUALLY scummy? idk.. i just can't see why you would like to have bad cases on you running around without cutting them out straight up. I'm not really worried about being lynched and I know my own alignment, so it's kind of nice to have initial suspicions on me to see how they develop / how other players react. At least it's better than everyone sheeping to some lurker. Plus there isn't really much to say about those posts you mentioned. They're either weak suspicions or not even real suspicions at all. Damdred's post has probably been the most useless one, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if there's scum among this group.
On July 24 2014 02:40 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 02:35 GlowingBear wrote:Oof. Caught up with a little bit of skimming On July 24 2014 02:13 Xatalos wrote:
Oh yeah, GlowingBear was also voting me.
GB: Don't you think basing your scumread on a single listpost (that most people seem to consider as null) is a bit weak? And when you say that "mafia changed the focus" which players are you suggesting did that -> are scum? I do believe that basing my scumread in a single list post is weak. But I think that your follow up was also scum because, as people said before, you don't seem like to scum hunt at any point of the game. This, summed up with the problems I noticed on your post, makes my scumread at you. I don't have a good idea of which players, as town could've brought another case and scum tried to hop on the wagon to disrupt attention, or mafia could've started it and townies jumped on. But if I had to guess, I'd guess shinobi is mafia for saying "god, no discussion" when I added a case on your list post (which could be read as a good case or bad case, whatever - it was at least a discussion starter). Even after that, he tried to change the focus to discuss a policy lynch on Chopin. Lol. Let's discuss policies lynch but ignore a case? Nope. Don't you think I've been scumhunting by, for example, trying to discover Vivax's alignment? Oh well. It's true that I've been a bit lazy so far.
If you're town, could you stop being lazy and fight this lynch? Who do you think is mafia and why?
You haven't given a clear scumread so far. I already accused of you being hypocritical for leaving your "options open" while accusing Navi for the same thing. Now that I read through your filter properly, I haven't seen you push ANYONE.
|
On July 24 2014 17:45 Vivax wrote:
Aaaand I'm still open to the idea of lynching Koshi, be my guest if you feel like joining me in my efforts and do some analysis on him for yourself. Most people I talked to about him seemed to see the him vs me thingy as a secondary issue (Rayn and Teemu).
On July 24 2014 17:45 Vivax wrote:
Aaaand I'm still open to the idea of lynching Koshi, be my guest if you feel like joining me in my efforts and do some analysis on him for yourself. Most people I talked to about him seemed to see the him vs me thingy as a secondary issue (Rayn and Teemu).
At the time when you were fighting, I was reading both of you as town. I still need to go through both of your filters after the fight, but I wouldn't want to lynch either one of you today anyway.
Do you actually think Xata is scum? I agree with you that Xata's playing really passively, not pushing anyone etc, but I'm still not like convinced convinced that he's mafia.
|
I need to do some work, brb in some hours.
|
On July 24 2014 19:56 Koshi wrote:
VIVAX IS 100% SCUM?
100%
SCUM
Do you have a cop check on him? If not, again, you're not convincing anyone by just mostly making posts like this.
|
On July 24 2014 20:10 GlowingBear wrote:
I don't like koshi's post at all. They are all rubbish.
CR's case on Xatalos is full of fluff. Who was the guy that just said "oh what a good case!"? Remember reading it somewhere but don't remember who.
Haru that's not a scum slip and you know that <3
Teemu, your posts were ok when skimming through your filter. I'm just cautious with you because they were also okay when you were mafia.
If Xatalos isn't mafia I'd totally focus koshi and CR
What do you think of Haru, then?
|
I'll give my opinion on Damdred once I'm not swarmed with work.
|
Koshi, can you make a case on Chopin? I have a bad gutfeel about him but that's mostly it. If you don't want to and instead keep repeating his name like you're doing with Vivax, I'll filter dive him later today but I'm probably not going to be convinced to vote on him.
I'm agreeing a lot with your list a lot but some of your posting has been kind of shit. I kind of wish you could just explain some of your mafia reads better.
|
Like, I'm not sure about Vivax and Chopin yet. Xata looks like an okay lynch, all down for Obi lynch. Wouldn't have Damdred bat that high (mostly because I haven't read those people yet) and I would want to lynch VA.
I'm also a little paranoid if both GB and Haru are actually town.
|
On July 24 2014 21:20 Vivax wrote:
Enough of the smurfhunting, I know who it is cause of one particular post but I won't spoil his fun cause I can't stop chuckling at the turn the thread took.
So instead of saying who you think it is and make him easier to read, you're keeping it as a secret for your and his amusement?
|
On July 24 2014 17:36 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 00:47 Xatalos wrote:On July 24 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 24 2014 00:15 Xatalos wrote:On July 24 2014 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit. I think I did mention that it's stupid to call me "infinitely scummy" for a single listpost, but overall I don't feel like it's inherently scummy to make bad cases. It's D1 after all, good cases are rare. no it's not scummy to make bad cases. that's not what i am suggesting. did you even read my post and what it was referring to? i am not calling anyone mafia for making bad cases. damdred made a posts that really said nothing. he didn't follow that up in any way - even when there were questions which you didn't even answer. Cava called damdred town for that post, then he called you not necessarily scum. first of all that post was not good, second, he cannot give damdred a town read if he does not think you are scummy. because he didn't call the case bad. you either agree with a case or not, he didn't do either but STILL the post was somehow good. like, he semi-agreed with it without saying so. wishy-washy as fuck. Haru called you out for buddying after those two guys. Buddying is not scummy unless you explain why. Stupid as fuck. Teemu called you scummy for who knows why. Now why didn't YOU call these people out for those things? Like do you want people just attack you for dumb shit and do nothing about it? Or scared of saying something that is ACTUALLY scummy? idk.. i just can't see why you would like to have bad cases on you running around without cutting them out straight up. I'm not really worried about being lynched and I know my own alignment, so it's kind of nice to have initial suspicions on me to see how they develop / how other players react. At least it's better than everyone sheeping to some lurker. Plus there isn't really much to say about those posts you mentioned. They're either weak suspicions or not even real suspicions at all. Damdred's post has probably been the most useless one, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if there's scum among this group. Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 02:40 Xatalos wrote:On July 24 2014 02:35 GlowingBear wrote:Oof. Caught up with a little bit of skimming On July 24 2014 02:13 Xatalos wrote:
Oh yeah, GlowingBear was also voting me.
GB: Don't you think basing your scumread on a single listpost (that most people seem to consider as null) is a bit weak? And when you say that "mafia changed the focus" which players are you suggesting did that -> are scum? I do believe that basing my scumread in a single list post is weak. But I think that your follow up was also scum because, as people said before, you don't seem like to scum hunt at any point of the game. This, summed up with the problems I noticed on your post, makes my scumread at you. I don't have a good idea of which players, as town could've brought another case and scum tried to hop on the wagon to disrupt attention, or mafia could've started it and townies jumped on. But if I had to guess, I'd guess shinobi is mafia for saying "god, no discussion" when I added a case on your list post (which could be read as a good case or bad case, whatever - it was at least a discussion starter). Even after that, he tried to change the focus to discuss a policy lynch on Chopin. Lol. Let's discuss policies lynch but ignore a case? Nope. Don't you think I've been scumhunting by, for example, trying to discover Vivax's alignment? Oh well. It's true that I've been a bit lazy so far. If you're town, could you stop being lazy and fight this lynch? Who do you think is mafia and why? You haven't given a clear scumread so far. I already accused of you being hypocritical for leaving your "options open" while accusing Navi for the same thing. Now that I read through your filter properly, I haven't seen you push ANYONE.
Could you, please? I feel like you're given all the chance to prove you're town and fight the lynch, but instead you're going down like you've accepted it already. Your whole filter is just random fluff with no direction. It's such a bore to try to read it.
|
On July 24 2014 21:38 Chopin Liszt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 21:36 Teemursu wrote:On July 24 2014 17:36 Teemursu wrote:On July 24 2014 00:47 Xatalos wrote:On July 24 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 24 2014 00:15 Xatalos wrote:On July 24 2014 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit. I think I did mention that it's stupid to call me "infinitely scummy" for a single listpost, but overall I don't feel like it's inherently scummy to make bad cases. It's D1 after all, good cases are rare. no it's not scummy to make bad cases. that's not what i am suggesting. did you even read my post and what it was referring to? i am not calling anyone mafia for making bad cases. damdred made a posts that really said nothing. he didn't follow that up in any way - even when there were questions which you didn't even answer. Cava called damdred town for that post, then he called you not necessarily scum. first of all that post was not good, second, he cannot give damdred a town read if he does not think you are scummy. because he didn't call the case bad. you either agree with a case or not, he didn't do either but STILL the post was somehow good. like, he semi-agreed with it without saying so. wishy-washy as fuck. Haru called you out for buddying after those two guys. Buddying is not scummy unless you explain why. Stupid as fuck. Teemu called you scummy for who knows why. Now why didn't YOU call these people out for those things? Like do you want people just attack you for dumb shit and do nothing about it? Or scared of saying something that is ACTUALLY scummy? idk.. i just can't see why you would like to have bad cases on you running around without cutting them out straight up. I'm not really worried about being lynched and I know my own alignment, so it's kind of nice to have initial suspicions on me to see how they develop / how other players react. At least it's better than everyone sheeping to some lurker. Plus there isn't really much to say about those posts you mentioned. They're either weak suspicions or not even real suspicions at all. Damdred's post has probably been the most useless one, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if there's scum among this group. On July 24 2014 02:40 Xatalos wrote:On July 24 2014 02:35 GlowingBear wrote:Oof. Caught up with a little bit of skimming On July 24 2014 02:13 Xatalos wrote:
Oh yeah, GlowingBear was also voting me.
GB: Don't you think basing your scumread on a single listpost (that most people seem to consider as null) is a bit weak? And when you say that "mafia changed the focus" which players are you suggesting did that -> are scum? I do believe that basing my scumread in a single list post is weak. But I think that your follow up was also scum because, as people said before, you don't seem like to scum hunt at any point of the game. This, summed up with the problems I noticed on your post, makes my scumread at you. I don't have a good idea of which players, as town could've brought another case and scum tried to hop on the wagon to disrupt attention, or mafia could've started it and townies jumped on. But if I had to guess, I'd guess shinobi is mafia for saying "god, no discussion" when I added a case on your list post (which could be read as a good case or bad case, whatever - it was at least a discussion starter). Even after that, he tried to change the focus to discuss a policy lynch on Chopin. Lol. Let's discuss policies lynch but ignore a case? Nope. Don't you think I've been scumhunting by, for example, trying to discover Vivax's alignment? Oh well. It's true that I've been a bit lazy so far. If you're town, could you stop being lazy and fight this lynch? Who do you think is mafia and why? You haven't given a clear scumread so far. I already accused of you being hypocritical for leaving your "options open" while accusing Navi for the same thing. Now that I read through your filter properly, I haven't seen you push ANYONE. Could you, please? I feel like you're given all the chance to prove you're town and fight the lynch, but instead you're going down like you've accepted it already. Your whole filter is just random fluff with no direction. It's such a bore to try to read it. Honestly this is the best reason I've seen so far for Xatalos being mafia.
Me too, and the fact that it's close to being the only (good) reason is bothering me.
|
Nvm, didn't notice the bolded part. I was talking about the fact that he's just going down accepting it.
|
On July 24 2014 21:42 Xatalos wrote:
Oh, there's only 3 hours left. What's the vote count?
All you need to know is that you're about to get lynched.
|
On July 24 2014 21:52 Chopin Liszt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 16:38 slOosh wrote:Day 1 Votecount Xatalos (6) - Chairman Ray, GlowingBear, HaruRH, raynpelikoneet, Navillus, batsnacks Damdred (3) - Chopin Liszt, Vivax, Xatalos VayneAuthority (2) - Teemursu, PalmarVivax (1) - ObiWanShinobiChopin Liszt (2) - Damdred, KoshiHaruRH (1) - VayneAuthority Assuming this is correct, all the votes in red are effectively useless right now. That's 2/5 of the votes being cast on people who aren't getting lynched. Can we fix this please. Damdred has a good chance of being mafia. Better than Xatalos. Haru is not mafia. Votes on Vayne and me are silly for differing reasons. Just looking at this, Obiwan might be mafia. He's practically let this day slide by completely. I would support a lynch on Obiwan.
##Unvote
##Vote ObiWanShinobi
Let's do it then.
|
inb4 hipster mafia, but if Xata flips town, I'm going to be so fucking frustrated.
|
On July 24 2014 21:43 Koshi wrote:
How the fuck is Xatalos being lynched while all big filters are not on him? Yet there is almost no resistance. Which doesn't make Xatalos town in this 13 vs 3 setup ofc.
It just makes all the big filters scum.
Explain it to me like I'm an idiot.
|
Reading through Damdred's filter now. Could people who have made cases against him link them to me, please?
|
On July 24 2014 22:10 Chopin Liszt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 22:09 Teemursu wrote:
Reading through Damdred's filter now. Could people who have made cases against him link them to me, please? Better question: you tell me why he might be town
I'm better at scumhunting. I'm pretty bad at forming towncircles/finding town. Just because someone isn't the towniest town doesn't warrant a lynch to me.
I'm not switching to Damdred if I'm not convinced he's scum.
|
Damdred, if you're here. I want to hear what you got out of the questions that you asked me. I addressed everything you wanted me to address and then just started lurking.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
