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On July 27 2014 04:24 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2014 04:14 Koshi wrote:On July 27 2014 02:27 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2014 02:13 Koshi wrote:
Nha. afk 18 hours.
marv/VA You are tunnelling. Really, you are. Look, all we've got from those two are WIFOM scenarios. I find marv suspicious because he is not the aggressive marv I saw on vets vs juniors, but I don't know, I still believe he could be town. If you believe marv is hard defending Vayne, you also da believe that regarding Xatalos and if marv is scum, you have to admit that one of the. Is certainly town. You can use this argument against me because I said that Xatalos was being hard defended by possible scum, but this is only one of FIVE arguments not based on WIFOM. Vayne's reason to lynch is WIFOM. Look, it all starts with "he fake claimed, so he is mafia". Then it goes to "but it is a bad move as mafia, so he is probably town". Then, "but marv and him probably made this so we think that they are both town when they are actually mafia". When you reach this level of thinking, you know it's WIFOM and that it's better to gather more information/search for actual facts than using this as the basis of a lynch. I want to lynch into 3 people only: Marv/VA/Xatalos Both VA and Xatalos don't want to kill marv. Both VA and Xatalos want(ed) to kill each other. The answer: Kill marv. I think you should remove me and marv from today's lynch-list and look at other possibilities. I've already explained why it's very risky to lynch marv today (huge loss if he's town, maybe even blue) and besides he's most likely absorbing a bullet tonight anyway. If not, then he has more time to use his analysis / role OR he'll be lynched for being alive / not really achieving much for that long. It's just better to postpone judgment on him. As for me, well, I'm VT and I haven't really achieved that much yet. But it should be pretty evident from my play that this is not how I play scum. You only need to take a look at any of my scumgames. I never post freely in the thread whatever I'm thinking as scum.
This post has convinced me of a few things
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On July 27 2014 04:48 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2014 04:29 Damdred wrote:On July 27 2014 04:24 Xatalos wrote:On July 27 2014 04:14 Koshi wrote:On July 27 2014 02:27 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2014 02:13 Koshi wrote:
Nha. afk 18 hours.
marv/VA You are tunnelling. Really, you are. Look, all we've got from those two are WIFOM scenarios. I find marv suspicious because he is not the aggressive marv I saw on vets vs juniors, but I don't know, I still believe he could be town. If you believe marv is hard defending Vayne, you also da believe that regarding Xatalos and if marv is scum, you have to admit that one of the. Is certainly town. You can use this argument against me because I said that Xatalos was being hard defended by possible scum, but this is only one of FIVE arguments not based on WIFOM. Vayne's reason to lynch is WIFOM. Look, it all starts with "he fake claimed, so he is mafia". Then it goes to "but it is a bad move as mafia, so he is probably town". Then, "but marv and him probably made this so we think that they are both town when they are actually mafia". When you reach this level of thinking, you know it's WIFOM and that it's better to gather more information/search for actual facts than using this as the basis of a lynch. I want to lynch into 3 people only: Marv/VA/Xatalos Both VA and Xatalos don't want to kill marv. Both VA and Xatalos want(ed) to kill each other. The answer: Kill marv. I think you should remove me and marv from today's lynch-list and look at other possibilities. I've already explained why it's very risky to lynch marv today (huge loss if he's town, maybe even blue) and besides he's most likely absorbing a bullet tonight anyway. If not, then he has more time to use his analysis / role OR he'll be lynched for being alive / not really achieving much for that long. It's just better to postpone judgment on him. As for me, well, I'm VT and I haven't really achieved that much yet. But it should be pretty evident from my play that this is not how I play scum. You only need to take a look at any of my scumgames. I never post freely in the thread whatever I'm thinking as scum. This post has convinced me of a few things ##unvote
##Vote Chopin Liszt What things?
Yea my phone cut me of while I was trying to write more I guess, but I really dislike Xat and his gentle prodding towards another target even though he doesn't provide one. I really hate how most of Xatalos posts are like this gently prodding towards a much weaker target at that point in the thread (granted its me or VA at that point in the thread).
Chopin pushed off ofXatalos earlier in the game so he wasn't lynched now Xat is pushing off of him, its really possible hes just repaying the favor i'm just convinced one is scum at the moment. If not both. However i'm convincing myself to unvote Chopin now....I am going to filter dive him where he says and look elsewhere I want to see what I can find before i put my vote back on him..
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i am honestly having a hard time right now trying to figure this out going to go read more, I still really read Xatalos as scummy though
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On July 27 2014 07:08 Xatalos wrote:
Also you might note that my activity drops significantly as scum after D1.
Its really hard for me not to vote for you right now Xatalos. All your posts that say why you can't be scum and talk of your townyness just makes me feel every time you are more scum.
Ok Xatalos, I really need you to work with me here if you are town, I trust Koshi and hes reading you as town even though I think you are scum.
You have soft pushed people your filter doesn't have any hard reads or evidence and only a couple of soft cases. Mostly against me, help me out here Xatalos.
Who do you really want to lynch today and why? If its me you pick thats fine
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On July 27 2014 22:44 GlowingBear wrote:
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How do you read Xatalos, Vivax?
We need a vote count
What put you on vivax all a sudden? He trolled obi but i still see hI'm as town
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I think i answered that with vi questions night one but ill answer again i didn't know who to vote at that point and i had to vote i was torn between xat vi up until that point. I didn't think vivax was scum and i felt kush was town so i folloqed him with the sudden deadline shift.
I'm going to read cr filter really fast and see the case
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Take xat out of your question if not him who is the other partner to you
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On July 27 2014 23:22 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2014 23:14 Damdred wrote:
I think i answered that with vi questions night one but ill answer again i didn't know who to vote at that point and i had to vote i was torn between xat vi up until that point. I didn't think vivax was scum and i felt kush was town so i folloqed him with the sudden deadline shift.
I'm going to read cr filter really fast and see the case Funny that I looked your filter and you made the same question to me knowing that it was out of pressure too.
at that point i wasn't ecactly onto a hard scum read like you had on koshi honestly. Xats moves were so random that i dwas hesitant
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I believe GB ray did vote xat when he was switching between vi and nav....
i don't think xat is getting lynched in the next 40 minutes why push him instead of the other cases or do you think both re bad?
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Vivax you have me convinced honestly
chairman ray
Also the more i read GB post the more i hate it honestly.
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If we lynch vayne we should lynch chopin as well for the same thing its just policy at this point and if bat would of read the game idk if he would of claimed.
something seems off on lynching vayne so I'm keeping my vote on cr
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Xat what is your read on gb atm
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On July 28 2014 01:10 Koshi wrote:
hmmmmmmmmmmmm..............................................
I always read CR town. meh.
I give up this game.
gg
Stop that koshi. we gotta figure the last out
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Would rather you not waste a check on me obviously. i would get chopins first
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And since nobody ccd. teem i would suggest not doing what gb says to be safe
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I tunneled you so hard up unto day 2 xat but i did change my mind glad i did....
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On July 28 2014 01:22 Vivax wrote:
Hi, I'm the cop and checked Damdred, my good townie buddy last night.
Vivax probably would of pushed me if he wasn't a cop glad he was i played pretty bad again
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On July 28 2014 01:29 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2014 01:27 Damdred wrote:
I tunneled you so hard up unto day 2 xat but i did change my mind glad i did.... Don't worry I tunneled you too all the way to the end 
I decided you were town when i pressed you for reads and you responded about how difficult it was for you.
i felt the way you were playing if you were scum you would of soft pushed or nonreason pushed someone.
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On July 28 2014 01:31 Vivax wrote:
Almost checked Chopin N1. Went Damdred-> Chopin -> Damdred :/
Mostly cause it didn't sit right with me how marv jumped in to defend Koshi at the end of the night.
Happy end I guess.
Trust your panda bro more next time
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