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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 23 2014 15:00 GMT
#567
Instead it's on the guy who made all those good posts.. even about Navillus.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 23 2014 15:00 GMT
#568
unvote
vote: Xatalos

ezgame
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 23 2014 15:00 GMT
#569
##unvote
##vote: Xatalos
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 23 2014 15:02 GMT
#572
You literally defend the due you are voting for - for reasons like him calling another player (who you seem to think is mafa as per your posts) scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 23 2014 15:03 GMT
#573
eeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..... xatalos xatalos xatalos.....
why did you vote for vivax in the first place?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 23 2014 15:08 GMT
#575
Okay so after those good posts Vivax made you have been here in thread. Why didn't you unvote then and only after i call you out on your contradiction..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 23 2014 15:09 GMT
#577
Do you seriously have that sorta heuristics as town Xatalos? It's like you are not willing to scumhunt at all.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 23 2014 15:10 GMT
#579
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 23 2014 15:12 GMT
#580
Shoppinglist is that Holyflare?
What do you make of this portion of my post before:
Damdred makes a terrible post on Xatalos (because the post lacks any conclusion and/or follow up). Cava calls the post good (apparently because he has a townread on damdred he "guesses"). Haru says Xatalos is buddying and apparently that's scummy? Well it's not. Then Cava says he doesn't want to pick a side regarding Xatalos. But in fact he kinda has (see townread on damdred).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 23 2014 15:24 GMT
#583
On July 24 2014 00:15 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit.


I think I did mention that it's stupid to call me "infinitely scummy" for a single listpost, but overall I don't feel like it's inherently scummy to make bad cases. It's D1 after all, good cases are rare.

no it's not scummy to make bad cases. that's not what i am suggesting. did you even read my post and what it was referring to? i am not calling anyone mafia for making bad cases.

damdred made a posts that really said nothing. he didn't follow that up in any way - even when there were questions which you didn't even answer.

Cava called damdred town for that post, then he called you not necessarily scum. first of all that post was not good, second, he cannot give damdred a town read if he does not think you are scummy. because he didn't call the case bad. you either agree with a case or not, he didn't do either but STILL the post was somehow good. like, he semi-agreed with it without saying so. wishy-washy as fuck.

Haru called you out for buddying after those two guys. Buddying is not scummy unless you explain why. Stupid as fuck.

Teemu called you scummy for who knows why.

Now why didn't YOU call these people out for those things? Like do you want people just attack you for dumb shit and do nothing about it? Or scared of saying something that is ACTUALLY scummy? idk.. i just can't see why you would like to have bad cases on you running around without cutting them out straight up.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 23 2014 15:35 GMT
#587
On July 24 2014 00:34 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you seriously have that sorta heuristics as town Xatalos? It's like you are not willing to scumhunt at all.

I'm glad you spotted this as well.

You made your post when there was nothing going on in thread. You can't compare those two... srsly.
why is buddying scummy?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 23 2014 15:37 GMT
#591
Also Haru what's your read on Cava?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 23 2014 15:38 GMT
#592
On July 23 2014 09:51 HaruRH wrote:
I feel that xatalos is making a towncircle with koshi and all his 'gut townreads/don't want to lynch d1'. I don't like his interaction with koshi either. It is just straight up buddying.
Xatalos also immediately came out to present himself as town town town. Still weird.


So is this scummy or not? Why can't you give a direct answer?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 23 2014 15:44 GMT
#597
I think you misquoted something Haru..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 23 2014 15:46 GMT
#599
On July 24 2014 00:44 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 23 2014 09:51 HaruRH wrote:
I feel that xatalos is making a towncircle with koshi and all his 'gut townreads/don't want to lynch d1'. I don't like his interaction with koshi either. It is just straight up buddying.
Xatalos also immediately came out to present himself as town town town. Still weird.


So is this scummy or not? Why can't you give a direct answer?

Its suspicious.
Not a scumtell at all. Just that people who are attempting to buddy up so early aren't up to any good.
They're going to nk all of us

I really don't know what's suspicious in buddying, so could you explain?
I do it all the time as town when there are players who i work with in a best way like that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 23 2014 15:47 GMT
#602
On July 24 2014 00:46 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think you misquoted something Haru..

Where

On July 24 2014 00:43 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 16:43 Teemursu wrote:
On July 23 2014 16:12 Navillus wrote:
Teemursu unrelated to the content could you just try to consolidate your posts a bit more, it just makes things more readable.

On other notes, I hadn't noticed that post by Palmar which is definitely a problem post, I also would really like for vayne to explain the Haru vote.

Obi and temmursu what do you think of xatalos, damdred and kush?


Sure, sorry, I guess the style comes from more fsat phased video mafia.

Xatalos leaning scum, damdred had kind of a bad entrance to the thread and his posting since hasn't been so good that I'd put him higher. kush I have leaning town. He's posting some reads and pressuring people.

Anyway, what's your read on Obi?

The whole sheeping kush thing I did to apply som pressure, and imo he's reacting badly to it. I still stand by what I've said about him doing jack shit about providing any content, though, and him callin me a moron, retard and an idiot instead of giving reads or askng any relevant questions looks really bad for him.

I want to see if he actually commits to calling me a moron for the rest of thr game, though.

His response to teemu reeks of anger, which is bad. It screams scum to me. But I don't have anything else to back the feeling up, so I can only wait and see his responses to other pressure and his general posting.
I certainly don't agree (as a town) with what obiwan is doing to react to teemu.

In this post, or then i don't get what you are saying.
I thought i asked you about Cava and then you quote some post that has nothing to do with him unless i am mistaken?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 23 2014 15:48 GMT
#603
On July 24 2014 00:47 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2014 00:15 Xatalos wrote:
On July 24 2014 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit.


I think I did mention that it's stupid to call me "infinitely scummy" for a single listpost, but overall I don't feel like it's inherently scummy to make bad cases. It's D1 after all, good cases are rare.

no it's not scummy to make bad cases. that's not what i am suggesting. did you even read my post and what it was referring to? i am not calling anyone mafia for making bad cases.

damdred made a posts that really said nothing. he didn't follow that up in any way - even when there were questions which you didn't even answer.

Cava called damdred town for that post, then he called you not necessarily scum. first of all that post was not good, second, he cannot give damdred a town read if he does not think you are scummy. because he didn't call the case bad. you either agree with a case or not, he didn't do either but STILL the post was somehow good. like, he semi-agreed with it without saying so. wishy-washy as fuck.

Haru called you out for buddying after those two guys. Buddying is not scummy unless you explain why. Stupid as fuck.

Teemu called you scummy for who knows why.

Now why didn't YOU call these people out for those things? Like do you want people just attack you for dumb shit and do nothing about it? Or scared of saying something that is ACTUALLY scummy? idk.. i just can't see why you would like to have bad cases on you running around without cutting them out straight up.


I'm not really worried about being lynched and I know my own alignment, so it's kind of nice to have initial suspicions on me to see how they develop / how other players react. At least it's better than everyone sheeping to some lurker. Plus there isn't really much to say about those posts you mentioned. They're either weak suspicions or not even real suspicions at all.

Damdred's post has probably been the most useless one, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if there's scum among this group.

Exactly who and why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 23 2014 15:52 GMT
#608
but why is it suspicious?
you just keep saying it's suspicious. do you think he "was scared of being lynched" with.... i think zero votes on him 3h (or so) into the game?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 23 2014 15:54 GMT
#609
On July 24 2014 00:52 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2014 00:46 HaruRH wrote:
On July 24 2014 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think you misquoted something Haru..

Where

On July 24 2014 00:43 HaruRH wrote:
On July 23 2014 16:43 Teemursu wrote:
On July 23 2014 16:12 Navillus wrote:
Teemursu unrelated to the content could you just try to consolidate your posts a bit more, it just makes things more readable.

On other notes, I hadn't noticed that post by Palmar which is definitely a problem post, I also would really like for vayne to explain the Haru vote.

Obi and temmursu what do you think of xatalos, damdred and kush?


Sure, sorry, I guess the style comes from more fsat phased video mafia.

Xatalos leaning scum, damdred had kind of a bad entrance to the thread and his posting since hasn't been so good that I'd put him higher. kush I have leaning town. He's posting some reads and pressuring people.

Anyway, what's your read on Obi?

The whole sheeping kush thing I did to apply som pressure, and imo he's reacting badly to it. I still stand by what I've said about him doing jack shit about providing any content, though, and him callin me a moron, retard and an idiot instead of giving reads or askng any relevant questions looks really bad for him.

I want to see if he actually commits to calling me a moron for the rest of thr game, though.

His response to teemu reeks of anger, which is bad. It screams scum to me. But I don't have anything else to back the feeling up, so I can only wait and see his responses to other pressure and his general posting.
I certainly don't agree (as a town) with what obiwan is doing to react to teemu.

In this post, or then i don't get what you are saying.
I thought i asked you about Cava and then you quote some post that has nothing to do with him unless i am mistaken?


Oh. I meant to say at the start that I feel the same as teemu, where cava/obi is overreacting to a small pressure with tons of aggression.

yes i agree with that too. Cava has however a "history" of getting dumblynched on D1 as town so i don't see this something that's really scummy, it's just weird.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 23 2014 15:59 GMT
#615
On July 24 2014 00:56 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
but why is it suspicious?
you just keep saying it's suspicious. do you think he "was scared of being lynched" with.... i think zero votes on him 3h (or so) into the game?


???
How did you get the interpretation that I thought xata begged for town reads because he was scared of being lynched?

It is very, very, very fine to do if you're just buddying with someone, or even wirh a group. But doing it WHILE trying to explain how he is in his town meta now, posting useless reads that seem to blend into town and trying to buddy up isn't really what towns do.

Do you do that?

because you said:
I don't care about buddying. I do it when I'm scared of being lynched too. However, it is how he is doing so much suspicious things at once. Jumping in by buddying with koshi and all his neutral reads, feeling like he is making a towncircle and combined with his unnecessary need to explain to everyone this is his town meta and almost begging for towm reads on him.

Buddying with Koshi (which is not suspicious normally (?) but you DID call it suspicious - because mafia buddies when being scared of being lynched).

What am i missing?
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