• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:56
CEST 19:56
KST 02:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task28[ASL19] Ro4 Recap : The Peak15DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Info & Preview19herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2025)17Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, GuMiho, Classic, Cure6
Community News
[BSL20] RO20 Group Stage2EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers (May 28-June 1)9Weekly Cups (May 12-18): Clem sweeps WardiTV May3Code S Season 2 (2025) - Qualifier Results212025 GSL Season 2 (Qualifiers)14
StarCraft 2
General
Aligulac.com changelog and feedback thread Interview with oPZesty on Cheeseadelphia/Coaching herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2025) DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Info & Preview Power Rank: October 2018
Tourneys
DreamHack Dallas 2025 EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers (May 28-June 1) Last Chance Qualifiers for OlimoLeague 2024 Winter $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void Mutation # 472 Dead Heat Mutation # 471 Delivery Guaranteed
Brood War
General
BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task ASL 19 Tickets for foreigners [ASL19] Ro4 Recap : The Peak BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL19] Grand Finals [ASL19] Ro8 Day 4 [BSL20] RO20 Group Stage
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread NHL Playoffs 2024 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL.net Ten Commandments
Blogs
Yes Sir! How Commanding Impr…
TrAiDoS
Poker
Nebuchad
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
SECOND COMMING
XenOsky
WombaT’s Old BW Terran Theme …
WombaT
BW PvZ Balance hypothetic…
Vasoline73
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 13152 users

IV Titanic Mafia: It Has Been a Privilege - Page 2

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 9 10 11 Next All
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:00 GMT
#567
Instead it's on the guy who made all those good posts.. even about Navillus.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:00 GMT
#568
unvote
vote: Xatalos

ezgame
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:00 GMT
#569
##unvote
##vote: Xatalos
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:02 GMT
#572
You literally defend the due you are voting for - for reasons like him calling another player (who you seem to think is mafa as per your posts) scum.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:03 GMT
#573
eeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..... xatalos xatalos xatalos.....
why did you vote for vivax in the first place?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:08 GMT
#575
Okay so after those good posts Vivax made you have been here in thread. Why didn't you unvote then and only after i call you out on your contradiction..
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:09 GMT
#577
Do you seriously have that sorta heuristics as town Xatalos? It's like you are not willing to scumhunt at all.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:10 GMT
#579
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:12 GMT
#580
Shoppinglist is that Holyflare?
What do you make of this portion of my post before:
Damdred makes a terrible post on Xatalos (because the post lacks any conclusion and/or follow up). Cava calls the post good (apparently because he has a townread on damdred he "guesses"). Haru says Xatalos is buddying and apparently that's scummy? Well it's not. Then Cava says he doesn't want to pick a side regarding Xatalos. But in fact he kinda has (see townread on damdred).
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:24 GMT
#583
On July 24 2014 00:15 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit.


I think I did mention that it's stupid to call me "infinitely scummy" for a single listpost, but overall I don't feel like it's inherently scummy to make bad cases. It's D1 after all, good cases are rare.

no it's not scummy to make bad cases. that's not what i am suggesting. did you even read my post and what it was referring to? i am not calling anyone mafia for making bad cases.

damdred made a posts that really said nothing. he didn't follow that up in any way - even when there were questions which you didn't even answer.

Cava called damdred town for that post, then he called you not necessarily scum. first of all that post was not good, second, he cannot give damdred a town read if he does not think you are scummy. because he didn't call the case bad. you either agree with a case or not, he didn't do either but STILL the post was somehow good. like, he semi-agreed with it without saying so. wishy-washy as fuck.

Haru called you out for buddying after those two guys. Buddying is not scummy unless you explain why. Stupid as fuck.

Teemu called you scummy for who knows why.

Now why didn't YOU call these people out for those things? Like do you want people just attack you for dumb shit and do nothing about it? Or scared of saying something that is ACTUALLY scummy? idk.. i just can't see why you would like to have bad cases on you running around without cutting them out straight up.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:35 GMT
#587
On July 24 2014 00:34 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you seriously have that sorta heuristics as town Xatalos? It's like you are not willing to scumhunt at all.

I'm glad you spotted this as well.

You made your post when there was nothing going on in thread. You can't compare those two... srsly.
why is buddying scummy?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:37 GMT
#591
Also Haru what's your read on Cava?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:38 GMT
#592
On July 23 2014 09:51 HaruRH wrote:
I feel that xatalos is making a towncircle with koshi and all his 'gut townreads/don't want to lynch d1'. I don't like his interaction with koshi either. It is just straight up buddying.
Xatalos also immediately came out to present himself as town town town. Still weird.


So is this scummy or not? Why can't you give a direct answer?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:44 GMT
#597
I think you misquoted something Haru..
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:46 GMT
#599
On July 24 2014 00:44 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 23 2014 09:51 HaruRH wrote:
I feel that xatalos is making a towncircle with koshi and all his 'gut townreads/don't want to lynch d1'. I don't like his interaction with koshi either. It is just straight up buddying.
Xatalos also immediately came out to present himself as town town town. Still weird.


So is this scummy or not? Why can't you give a direct answer?

Its suspicious.
Not a scumtell at all. Just that people who are attempting to buddy up so early aren't up to any good.
They're going to nk all of us

I really don't know what's suspicious in buddying, so could you explain?
I do it all the time as town when there are players who i work with in a best way like that.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:47 GMT
#602
On July 24 2014 00:46 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think you misquoted something Haru..

Where

On July 24 2014 00:43 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 16:43 Teemursu wrote:
On July 23 2014 16:12 Navillus wrote:
Teemursu unrelated to the content could you just try to consolidate your posts a bit more, it just makes things more readable.

On other notes, I hadn't noticed that post by Palmar which is definitely a problem post, I also would really like for vayne to explain the Haru vote.

Obi and temmursu what do you think of xatalos, damdred and kush?


Sure, sorry, I guess the style comes from more fsat phased video mafia.

Xatalos leaning scum, damdred had kind of a bad entrance to the thread and his posting since hasn't been so good that I'd put him higher. kush I have leaning town. He's posting some reads and pressuring people.

Anyway, what's your read on Obi?

The whole sheeping kush thing I did to apply som pressure, and imo he's reacting badly to it. I still stand by what I've said about him doing jack shit about providing any content, though, and him callin me a moron, retard and an idiot instead of giving reads or askng any relevant questions looks really bad for him.

I want to see if he actually commits to calling me a moron for the rest of thr game, though.

His response to teemu reeks of anger, which is bad. It screams scum to me. But I don't have anything else to back the feeling up, so I can only wait and see his responses to other pressure and his general posting.
I certainly don't agree (as a town) with what obiwan is doing to react to teemu.

In this post, or then i don't get what you are saying.
I thought i asked you about Cava and then you quote some post that has nothing to do with him unless i am mistaken?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:48 GMT
#603
On July 24 2014 00:47 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2014 00:15 Xatalos wrote:
On July 24 2014 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit.


I think I did mention that it's stupid to call me "infinitely scummy" for a single listpost, but overall I don't feel like it's inherently scummy to make bad cases. It's D1 after all, good cases are rare.

no it's not scummy to make bad cases. that's not what i am suggesting. did you even read my post and what it was referring to? i am not calling anyone mafia for making bad cases.

damdred made a posts that really said nothing. he didn't follow that up in any way - even when there were questions which you didn't even answer.

Cava called damdred town for that post, then he called you not necessarily scum. first of all that post was not good, second, he cannot give damdred a town read if he does not think you are scummy. because he didn't call the case bad. you either agree with a case or not, he didn't do either but STILL the post was somehow good. like, he semi-agreed with it without saying so. wishy-washy as fuck.

Haru called you out for buddying after those two guys. Buddying is not scummy unless you explain why. Stupid as fuck.

Teemu called you scummy for who knows why.

Now why didn't YOU call these people out for those things? Like do you want people just attack you for dumb shit and do nothing about it? Or scared of saying something that is ACTUALLY scummy? idk.. i just can't see why you would like to have bad cases on you running around without cutting them out straight up.


I'm not really worried about being lynched and I know my own alignment, so it's kind of nice to have initial suspicions on me to see how they develop / how other players react. At least it's better than everyone sheeping to some lurker. Plus there isn't really much to say about those posts you mentioned. They're either weak suspicions or not even real suspicions at all.

Damdred's post has probably been the most useless one, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if there's scum among this group.

Exactly who and why?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:52 GMT
#608
but why is it suspicious?
you just keep saying it's suspicious. do you think he "was scared of being lynched" with.... i think zero votes on him 3h (or so) into the game?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:54 GMT
#609
On July 24 2014 00:52 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2014 00:46 HaruRH wrote:
On July 24 2014 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think you misquoted something Haru..

Where

On July 24 2014 00:43 HaruRH wrote:
On July 23 2014 16:43 Teemursu wrote:
On July 23 2014 16:12 Navillus wrote:
Teemursu unrelated to the content could you just try to consolidate your posts a bit more, it just makes things more readable.

On other notes, I hadn't noticed that post by Palmar which is definitely a problem post, I also would really like for vayne to explain the Haru vote.

Obi and temmursu what do you think of xatalos, damdred and kush?


Sure, sorry, I guess the style comes from more fsat phased video mafia.

Xatalos leaning scum, damdred had kind of a bad entrance to the thread and his posting since hasn't been so good that I'd put him higher. kush I have leaning town. He's posting some reads and pressuring people.

Anyway, what's your read on Obi?

The whole sheeping kush thing I did to apply som pressure, and imo he's reacting badly to it. I still stand by what I've said about him doing jack shit about providing any content, though, and him callin me a moron, retard and an idiot instead of giving reads or askng any relevant questions looks really bad for him.

I want to see if he actually commits to calling me a moron for the rest of thr game, though.

His response to teemu reeks of anger, which is bad. It screams scum to me. But I don't have anything else to back the feeling up, so I can only wait and see his responses to other pressure and his general posting.
I certainly don't agree (as a town) with what obiwan is doing to react to teemu.

In this post, or then i don't get what you are saying.
I thought i asked you about Cava and then you quote some post that has nothing to do with him unless i am mistaken?


Oh. I meant to say at the start that I feel the same as teemu, where cava/obi is overreacting to a small pressure with tons of aggression.

yes i agree with that too. Cava has however a "history" of getting dumblynched on D1 as town so i don't see this something that's really scummy, it's just weird.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 23 2014 15:59 GMT
#615
On July 24 2014 00:56 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
but why is it suspicious?
you just keep saying it's suspicious. do you think he "was scared of being lynched" with.... i think zero votes on him 3h (or so) into the game?


???
How did you get the interpretation that I thought xata begged for town reads because he was scared of being lynched?

It is very, very, very fine to do if you're just buddying with someone, or even wirh a group. But doing it WHILE trying to explain how he is in his town meta now, posting useless reads that seem to blend into town and trying to buddy up isn't really what towns do.

Do you do that?

because you said:
I don't care about buddying. I do it when I'm scared of being lynched too. However, it is how he is doing so much suspicious things at once. Jumping in by buddying with koshi and all his neutral reads, feeling like he is making a towncircle and combined with his unnecessary need to explain to everyone this is his town meta and almost begging for towm reads on him.

Buddying with Koshi (which is not suspicious normally (?) but you DID call it suspicious - because mafia buddies when being scared of being lynched).

What am i missing?
table for two on a tv tray
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 9 10 11 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Road to EWC
14:55
DreamHack Dallas Final Playoffs
ewc_black5631
ComeBackTV 2502
RotterdaM794
SteadfastSC473
Fuzer 336
Rex303
CosmosSc2 268
CranKy Ducklings222
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 794
SteadfastSC 473
Fuzer 336
Rex 303
CosmosSc2 268
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 30964
EffOrt 1331
Mini 894
firebathero 280
ggaemo 209
Mind 76
HiyA 31
zelot 20
yabsab 16
soO 12
[ Show more ]
Sacsri 7
Dota 2
Gorgc10423
qojqva2609
Dendi1865
420jenkins105
BabyKnight71
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 404
Counter-Strike
byalli402
flusha31
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1441
Mew2King95
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor698
Liquid`Hasu496
Other Games
FrodaN2780
Mlord718
B2W.Neo688
ToD243
KnowMe225
Hui .185
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick808
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH335
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix15
• Azhi_Dahaki8
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV574
League of Legends
• Jankos1975
Other Games
• imaqtpie938
• Shiphtur297
Upcoming Events
BSL: ProLeague
4m
Cross vs TT1
spx vs Hawk
JDConan vs TBD
Wardi Open
17h 4m
SOOP
1d 14h
NightMare vs Wayne
Replay Cast
1d 16h
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL Code S
2 days
Cure vs Zoun
Solar vs Creator
The PondCast
2 days
Online Event
2 days
Clem vs ShoWTimE
herO vs MaxPax
HupCup
2 days
GSL Code S
3 days
GuMiho vs Bunny
ByuN vs SHIN
[ Show More ]
Online Event
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 2v2 Season 3
2025 GSL S1
Calamity Stars S2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
YSL S1
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
DreamHack Dallas 2025
Heroes 10 EU
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025
ESL Pro League S21

Upcoming

CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
2025 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.