• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:09
CET 14:09
KST 22:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview11Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)38
StarCraft 2
General
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview StarCraft 2 Not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 28 KSL Week 85 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open!
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Can someone share very abbreviated BW cliffnotes? BW General Discussion [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Bleak Future After Failed ProGaming Career
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Let's Get Creative–Video Gam…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1479 users

IV Titanic Mafia: It Has Been a Privilege - Page 2

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 21 22 23 Next All
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22160 Posts
July 23 2014 10:47 GMT
#446
On July 23 2014 19:31 Chopin Liszt wrote:
so why are we lynching navillus?


On July 23 2014 18:33 Chopin Liszt wrote:
##Vote: Navillus

Palmar stole my thunder. Don't really need to explain further beyond what Palmar already said about him.

Chopin


Ask your partner. Who is it, marv?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22160 Posts
July 23 2014 10:54 GMT
#451
Koshi do you dislike Palmar's case.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22160 Posts
July 23 2014 10:56 GMT
#453
On July 23 2014 19:53 Chopin Liszt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 19:47 Vivax wrote:
On July 23 2014 19:31 Chopin Liszt wrote:
so why are we lynching navillus?


On July 23 2014 18:33 Chopin Liszt wrote:
##Vote: Navillus

Palmar stole my thunder. Don't really need to explain further beyond what Palmar already said about him.

Chopin


Ask your partner. Who is it, marv?


are you trying to find out if we're worth shooting at night?


[image loading]
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22160 Posts
July 23 2014 11:17 GMT
#463
On July 23 2014 19:59 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 19:54 Vivax wrote:
Koshi do you dislike Palmar's case.

I like Kush his case better. Palmar's case made me look at Navillus but I saw only town.


Nope, it's a spot on case about a guy trying to look tryhard but showing an inherent lack of interests into topics he should have a focus on, and I get the same feeling, especially from that post.
It's more like he talks about anything that is potentially worth talking about, not just what matters.

I have yet to see him fight back against the bullshit reads I gave about his alleged people of interest.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22160 Posts
July 23 2014 11:23 GMT
#467
On July 23 2014 20:22 Navillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 20:17 Vivax wrote:
On July 23 2014 19:59 Koshi wrote:
On July 23 2014 19:54 Vivax wrote:
Koshi do you dislike Palmar's case.

I like Kush his case better. Palmar's case made me look at Navillus but I saw only town.


Nope, it's a spot on case about a guy trying to look tryhard but showing an inherent lack of interests into topics he should have a focus on, and I get the same feeling, especially from that post.
It's more like he talks about anything that is potentially worth talking about, not just what matters.

I have yet to see him fight back against the bullshit reads I gave about his alleged people of interest.

Seriously? Because what? I was supposed to actually argue about whether someone posting first or fourth was a townread? I read your posts, categorized you as useless, and put down that if you continued like this you would be an excellent lynch target, it's asinine to think that I didn't care about those questions because I didn't respond to your ridiculous non-answers. Now are you going to actually start talking about your reads?


What if I don't.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22160 Posts
July 23 2014 11:27 GMT
#471
On July 23 2014 12:41 Navillus wrote:
Re: Damdred I don't see anything particularly odd. His long post on Xatalos is the only thing that I would see as maybe indicative, I think often scum make long posts picking out a lot of pretty small stuff so they can look like they're contributing, but right now there's not much substantial to go on and xatalos has felt off to me with his pretty early defensiveness of other players. I don't see any reason to think Damdred is scum at the moment.


On July 23 2014 16:12 Navillus wrote:
Teemursu unrelated to the content could you just try to consolidate your posts a bit more, it just makes things more readable.

On other notes, I hadn't noticed that post by Palmar which is definitely a problem post, I also would really like for vayne to explain the Haru vote.

Obi and temmursu what do you think of xatalos, damdred and kush?

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22160 Posts
July 23 2014 11:29 GMT
#475
On July 23 2014 20:28 Xatalos wrote:
Huh. Apparently Vivax is about 5x more active and involved in the game as town compared to his scum play.

Right now he seems to be leaning scum.


Does it make you want to lynch navi less.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22160 Posts
July 23 2014 11:32 GMT
#477
On July 23 2014 20:31 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 20:29 Vivax wrote:
On July 23 2014 20:28 Xatalos wrote:
Huh. Apparently Vivax is about 5x more active and involved in the game as town compared to his scum play.

Right now he seems to be leaning scum.


Does it make you want to lynch navi less.


Somewhat


So you don't feel the reasons Palmar gave are strong enough to warrant a lynch on their own regardless of who's agreeing with them to head for that lynch?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22160 Posts
July 23 2014 11:39 GMT
#482
It's cool that your opinion differs Koshi but I don't see why you spend so much talking about townreads and mechanics and the terrible idea of vets claiming when you don't have an own scumread to push behind it that warrants you taking the wind out of other peoples sails to push your own preference.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22160 Posts
July 23 2014 11:43 GMT
#484
On July 23 2014 20:38 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 20:32 Vivax wrote:
On July 23 2014 20:31 Xatalos wrote:
On July 23 2014 20:29 Vivax wrote:
On July 23 2014 20:28 Xatalos wrote:
Huh. Apparently Vivax is about 5x more active and involved in the game as town compared to his scum play.

Right now he seems to be leaning scum.


Does it make you want to lynch navi less.


Somewhat


So you don't feel the reasons Palmar gave are strong enough to warrant a lynch on their own regardless of who's agreeing with them to head for that lynch?


I feel like Palmar made a reasonable early case, but it's far from conclusive. It's hard to have a conclusive case on D1 really. And you playing more to your scum meta + wanting to lynch Navillus isn't very encouraging.


On July 23 2014 18:48 Xatalos wrote:
Navillus could be scum. Reasonably likely is. His posts are pretty inconclusive and weak despite having a lot of text. Leaving a lot of options open for future actions.


Looks to me like you felt it's conclusive enough so that you would add your own reasons on top of it before throwing it away cause one guy on it plays to his scum meta in your unverified opinion.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22160 Posts
July 23 2014 11:51 GMT
#490
On July 23 2014 20:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 20:44 Xatalos wrote:
Koshi: Navillus has posted a ton of opinions, but don't you think they're pretty inconclusive and weak? Granted it's D1, but some of his posts feel like... "It could be X, but it could be Y" leaving his options as open as possible.

What the fuck do you expect that early? At least he is doing something.

In how many games is scum giving their opinion on literally everybody and anything that happens in the game as only one in the thread?


Palmar / Vivax are probably scum this game.


This is a very hyperbole statement about navi and displays you're not critically reading his posts, I am sure you can back up that he's doing exactly that with quotes if you are indeed right.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22160 Posts
July 23 2014 11:55 GMT
#493
I'm saying that what you say isn't correct. He talks about post formatting and Xatalos, and replies to a guy asking him about someone else in the first posts you quoted as being townie and giving his thoughts freely.

tl;dr: The reasons you use for reading him seem fake, and what you said in the last post I quoted is a gross exaggeration of what he's supposedly doing.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22160 Posts
July 23 2014 11:58 GMT
#494
You are hereby added to the people eligible for lynch. Fend yourself as you see fit.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22160 Posts
July 23 2014 12:01 GMT
#498
This game will be easy.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22160 Posts
July 23 2014 12:05 GMT
#501
On July 23 2014 21:01 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 20:55 Vivax wrote:
I'm saying that what you say isn't correct. He talks about post formatting and Xatalos, and replies to a guy asking him about someone else in the first posts you quoted as being townie and giving his thoughts freely.

tl;dr: The reasons you use for reading him seem fake, and what you said in the last post I quoted is a gross exaggeration of what he's supposedly doing.

When he was doing that. You were doing completely nothing.

what he was doing > what you were doing.

lynching him < lynching you


It's math.


Scum agenda equals simulating town agenda while opting for mislynches.

It's logic.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22160 Posts
July 23 2014 12:08 GMT
#504
On July 23 2014 21:07 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 21:05 Vivax wrote:
On July 23 2014 21:01 Koshi wrote:
On July 23 2014 20:55 Vivax wrote:
I'm saying that what you say isn't correct. He talks about post formatting and Xatalos, and replies to a guy asking him about someone else in the first posts you quoted as being townie and giving his thoughts freely.

tl;dr: The reasons you use for reading him seem fake, and what you said in the last post I quoted is a gross exaggeration of what he's supposedly doing.

When he was doing that. You were doing completely nothing.

what he was doing > what you were doing.

lynching him < lynching you


It's math.


Scum agenda equals simulating town agenda while opting for mislynches.

It's logic.

I like how you think that Koshi is harddefending his scumpartner here. Which you are implying in the last 2 posts you made.

And when I say like. I mean hahahaha, You scum.


I'm not implying that. I will judge you both independently.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22160 Posts
July 23 2014 12:14 GMT
#505
I'm well aware that he could be town and you're scum defending him, but the reason is not that I think he's town, it's cause I get the feeling that you're defending him for unwarranted reasons. Independently of his alignment, the reasons you use for townreading him are invalid from my town perspective.

I didn't say you're defending him cause he has to be your scumbuddy. He can be either, and I won't decide what it is based on your actions, but on his.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22160 Posts
July 23 2014 12:20 GMT
#507
On July 23 2014 21:19 Koshi wrote:
Yes, as scum I really like going hard against Vivax/Palmar to gain cred by Navillus.

Good thinking.


When did you decide to scumread me?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22160 Posts
July 23 2014 12:27 GMT
#509
On July 23 2014 21:22 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 21:20 Vivax wrote:
On July 23 2014 21:19 Koshi wrote:
Yes, as scum I really like going hard against Vivax/Palmar to gain cred by Navillus.

Good thinking.


When did you decide to scumread me?

When I voted you.


And the reason is that I'm not doing anything while navi is doing something?
In that case, why not vote me earlier?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22160 Posts
July 23 2014 12:41 GMT
#512
Koshi runs away with the tail between his legs.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 21 22 23 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
13:00
King of the Hill #236
Liquipedia
HomeStory Cup
12:00
Day 3
Serral vs ReynorLIVE!
Zoun vs HeRoMaRinE
Clem vs Lambo
TBD vs ShoWTimE
TaKeTV4002
ComeBackTV 1413
IndyStarCraft 499
TaKeSeN 316
Rex156
3DClanTV 119
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 499
Rex 156
MindelVK 63
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 9328
Calm 5302
Rain 2924
Bisu 2281
Shuttle 1476
Horang2 1374
Hyuk 733
Larva 719
EffOrt 671
Stork 569
[ Show more ]
Mini 405
Soma 399
BeSt 367
actioN 328
ggaemo 314
firebathero 307
Last 227
Sharp 127
Hyun 117
Zeus 113
Mind 100
Pusan 100
PianO 72
yabsab 46
Free 41
hero 41
Killer 36
ToSsGirL 36
sorry 35
JYJ 32
Shinee 31
910 30
Backho 28
Barracks 25
Hm[arnc] 24
HiyA 23
Terrorterran 16
GoRush 16
Sacsri 14
soO 13
SilentControl 11
zelot 11
Noble 10
Icarus 8
Dota 2
Gorgc2661
qojqva1870
Dendi1138
XcaliburYe375
Fuzer 242
NeuroSwarm114
Counter-Strike
zeus1400
fl0m453
allub257
edward94
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King99
Westballz35
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor359
Other Games
B2W.Neo1887
singsing1873
Liquid`RaSZi605
DeMusliM183
crisheroes173
ToD19
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• iHatsuTV 6
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix21
• Michael_bg 15
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota297
League of Legends
• Jankos2875
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
10h 51m
Replay Cast
1d 10h
Wardi Open
1d 22h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-31
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W7
Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.