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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
July 23 2014 10:47 GMT
#446
On July 23 2014 19:31 Chopin Liszt wrote:
so why are we lynching navillus?


On July 23 2014 18:33 Chopin Liszt wrote:
##Vote: Navillus

Palmar stole my thunder. Don't really need to explain further beyond what Palmar already said about him.

Chopin


Ask your partner. Who is it, marv?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
July 23 2014 10:54 GMT
#451
Koshi do you dislike Palmar's case.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
July 23 2014 10:56 GMT
#453
On July 23 2014 19:53 Chopin Liszt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 19:47 Vivax wrote:
On July 23 2014 19:31 Chopin Liszt wrote:
so why are we lynching navillus?


On July 23 2014 18:33 Chopin Liszt wrote:
##Vote: Navillus

Palmar stole my thunder. Don't really need to explain further beyond what Palmar already said about him.

Chopin


Ask your partner. Who is it, marv?


are you trying to find out if we're worth shooting at night?


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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
July 23 2014 11:17 GMT
#463
On July 23 2014 19:59 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 19:54 Vivax wrote:
Koshi do you dislike Palmar's case.

I like Kush his case better. Palmar's case made me look at Navillus but I saw only town.


Nope, it's a spot on case about a guy trying to look tryhard but showing an inherent lack of interests into topics he should have a focus on, and I get the same feeling, especially from that post.
It's more like he talks about anything that is potentially worth talking about, not just what matters.

I have yet to see him fight back against the bullshit reads I gave about his alleged people of interest.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
July 23 2014 11:23 GMT
#467
On July 23 2014 20:22 Navillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 20:17 Vivax wrote:
On July 23 2014 19:59 Koshi wrote:
On July 23 2014 19:54 Vivax wrote:
Koshi do you dislike Palmar's case.

I like Kush his case better. Palmar's case made me look at Navillus but I saw only town.


Nope, it's a spot on case about a guy trying to look tryhard but showing an inherent lack of interests into topics he should have a focus on, and I get the same feeling, especially from that post.
It's more like he talks about anything that is potentially worth talking about, not just what matters.

I have yet to see him fight back against the bullshit reads I gave about his alleged people of interest.

Seriously? Because what? I was supposed to actually argue about whether someone posting first or fourth was a townread? I read your posts, categorized you as useless, and put down that if you continued like this you would be an excellent lynch target, it's asinine to think that I didn't care about those questions because I didn't respond to your ridiculous non-answers. Now are you going to actually start talking about your reads?


What if I don't.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
July 23 2014 11:27 GMT
#471
On July 23 2014 12:41 Navillus wrote:
Re: Damdred I don't see anything particularly odd. His long post on Xatalos is the only thing that I would see as maybe indicative, I think often scum make long posts picking out a lot of pretty small stuff so they can look like they're contributing, but right now there's not much substantial to go on and xatalos has felt off to me with his pretty early defensiveness of other players. I don't see any reason to think Damdred is scum at the moment.


On July 23 2014 16:12 Navillus wrote:
Teemursu unrelated to the content could you just try to consolidate your posts a bit more, it just makes things more readable.

On other notes, I hadn't noticed that post by Palmar which is definitely a problem post, I also would really like for vayne to explain the Haru vote.

Obi and temmursu what do you think of xatalos, damdred and kush?

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
July 23 2014 11:29 GMT
#475
On July 23 2014 20:28 Xatalos wrote:
Huh. Apparently Vivax is about 5x more active and involved in the game as town compared to his scum play.

Right now he seems to be leaning scum.


Does it make you want to lynch navi less.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
July 23 2014 11:32 GMT
#477
On July 23 2014 20:31 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 20:29 Vivax wrote:
On July 23 2014 20:28 Xatalos wrote:
Huh. Apparently Vivax is about 5x more active and involved in the game as town compared to his scum play.

Right now he seems to be leaning scum.


Does it make you want to lynch navi less.


Somewhat


So you don't feel the reasons Palmar gave are strong enough to warrant a lynch on their own regardless of who's agreeing with them to head for that lynch?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
July 23 2014 11:39 GMT
#482
It's cool that your opinion differs Koshi but I don't see why you spend so much talking about townreads and mechanics and the terrible idea of vets claiming when you don't have an own scumread to push behind it that warrants you taking the wind out of other peoples sails to push your own preference.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
July 23 2014 11:43 GMT
#484
On July 23 2014 20:38 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 20:32 Vivax wrote:
On July 23 2014 20:31 Xatalos wrote:
On July 23 2014 20:29 Vivax wrote:
On July 23 2014 20:28 Xatalos wrote:
Huh. Apparently Vivax is about 5x more active and involved in the game as town compared to his scum play.

Right now he seems to be leaning scum.


Does it make you want to lynch navi less.


Somewhat


So you don't feel the reasons Palmar gave are strong enough to warrant a lynch on their own regardless of who's agreeing with them to head for that lynch?


I feel like Palmar made a reasonable early case, but it's far from conclusive. It's hard to have a conclusive case on D1 really. And you playing more to your scum meta + wanting to lynch Navillus isn't very encouraging.


On July 23 2014 18:48 Xatalos wrote:
Navillus could be scum. Reasonably likely is. His posts are pretty inconclusive and weak despite having a lot of text. Leaving a lot of options open for future actions.


Looks to me like you felt it's conclusive enough so that you would add your own reasons on top of it before throwing it away cause one guy on it plays to his scum meta in your unverified opinion.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
July 23 2014 11:51 GMT
#490
On July 23 2014 20:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 20:44 Xatalos wrote:
Koshi: Navillus has posted a ton of opinions, but don't you think they're pretty inconclusive and weak? Granted it's D1, but some of his posts feel like... "It could be X, but it could be Y" leaving his options as open as possible.

What the fuck do you expect that early? At least he is doing something.

In how many games is scum giving their opinion on literally everybody and anything that happens in the game as only one in the thread?


Palmar / Vivax are probably scum this game.


This is a very hyperbole statement about navi and displays you're not critically reading his posts, I am sure you can back up that he's doing exactly that with quotes if you are indeed right.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
July 23 2014 11:55 GMT
#493
I'm saying that what you say isn't correct. He talks about post formatting and Xatalos, and replies to a guy asking him about someone else in the first posts you quoted as being townie and giving his thoughts freely.

tl;dr: The reasons you use for reading him seem fake, and what you said in the last post I quoted is a gross exaggeration of what he's supposedly doing.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
July 23 2014 11:58 GMT
#494
You are hereby added to the people eligible for lynch. Fend yourself as you see fit.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
July 23 2014 12:01 GMT
#498
This game will be easy.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
July 23 2014 12:05 GMT
#501
On July 23 2014 21:01 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 20:55 Vivax wrote:
I'm saying that what you say isn't correct. He talks about post formatting and Xatalos, and replies to a guy asking him about someone else in the first posts you quoted as being townie and giving his thoughts freely.

tl;dr: The reasons you use for reading him seem fake, and what you said in the last post I quoted is a gross exaggeration of what he's supposedly doing.

When he was doing that. You were doing completely nothing.

what he was doing > what you were doing.

lynching him < lynching you


It's math.


Scum agenda equals simulating town agenda while opting for mislynches.

It's logic.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
July 23 2014 12:08 GMT
#504
On July 23 2014 21:07 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 21:05 Vivax wrote:
On July 23 2014 21:01 Koshi wrote:
On July 23 2014 20:55 Vivax wrote:
I'm saying that what you say isn't correct. He talks about post formatting and Xatalos, and replies to a guy asking him about someone else in the first posts you quoted as being townie and giving his thoughts freely.

tl;dr: The reasons you use for reading him seem fake, and what you said in the last post I quoted is a gross exaggeration of what he's supposedly doing.

When he was doing that. You were doing completely nothing.

what he was doing > what you were doing.

lynching him < lynching you


It's math.


Scum agenda equals simulating town agenda while opting for mislynches.

It's logic.

I like how you think that Koshi is harddefending his scumpartner here. Which you are implying in the last 2 posts you made.

And when I say like. I mean hahahaha, You scum.


I'm not implying that. I will judge you both independently.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
July 23 2014 12:14 GMT
#505
I'm well aware that he could be town and you're scum defending him, but the reason is not that I think he's town, it's cause I get the feeling that you're defending him for unwarranted reasons. Independently of his alignment, the reasons you use for townreading him are invalid from my town perspective.

I didn't say you're defending him cause he has to be your scumbuddy. He can be either, and I won't decide what it is based on your actions, but on his.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
July 23 2014 12:20 GMT
#507
On July 23 2014 21:19 Koshi wrote:
Yes, as scum I really like going hard against Vivax/Palmar to gain cred by Navillus.

Good thinking.


When did you decide to scumread me?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
July 23 2014 12:27 GMT
#509
On July 23 2014 21:22 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 21:20 Vivax wrote:
On July 23 2014 21:19 Koshi wrote:
Yes, as scum I really like going hard against Vivax/Palmar to gain cred by Navillus.

Good thinking.


When did you decide to scumread me?

When I voted you.


And the reason is that I'm not doing anything while navi is doing something?
In that case, why not vote me earlier?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
July 23 2014 12:41 GMT
#512
Koshi runs away with the tail between his legs.
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