EPTIf you still have doubts about my alignment then I want you to confront me now.
I didn't like how you were pouring gasoline into a fight without taking part in it.
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Vivax
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If you still have doubts about my alignment then I want you to confront me now. I didn't like how you were pouring gasoline into a fight without taking part in it. | ||
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Xatalos
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On July 27 2014 17:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Dude, a simple look at my meta reveals that I've survived past day 1 less than 50% of the time, and it's always because town decides to shove its head up its ass and kill me right off the bat. I don't see it, I think he's been acting scummy and I don't get his angle at all. Do you disagree? Just saying that I'm having difficulty imagining scum Vivax playing like he's played late D1 -> N1. Activity + participation in the discussion etc. I disagree that he's played like his last scumgame I remember at least. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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Well-played indeed. ##unvote ##vote VA If I can make lynch, I will. But don't expect me to stay up like this again. | ||
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Xatalos
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On July 27 2014 17:08 Vivax wrote: Yea but you also have to realize that if I'm able to look perfectly town whenever the fuck I want, then I have no reason to endanger an otherwise perfectly scumgame with the stuff I've been doing early D1, or now that I'm claiming scum for lulz. This can be wifom if you look at it, but if you look at it rationally you will also have to realize that I could easily keep the appereance you find townie up when most are content with a vayne lynch anyway. And yet as scum I decide to pop in and start trolling people cause...reasons? Rationalize me this. I think someone mentioned that you often start to lose interest in the game and start lurking at some point as scum though? That's why I'm a bit concerned atm. Not really enough to vote for you though. | ||
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Vivax
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You'd usually expect them to spam the thread at the same time and being completely undistinguishable in their efforts to drive town where they want to at any cost. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Who are we lynching? | ||
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Vivax
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What do you think about shopping list, Xata? Did you already get to decide what he is or do you really want to delay any analysis til D2? On July 27 2014 01:40 Xatalos wrote: And yeah, if you think I'm scum, then you pretty much have to scumread marv as well. I don't think I could fool marv well enough as scum that he would 100% believe I'm town... Maybe next time if I focus all my effort into it. But I didn't even know Chopin was marv until later on this time. You know this post sounds kinda...weird? | ||
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Xatalos
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I don't really know HF that well. He hasn't done anything especially good/noticeable though and been kind of "hiding" as was said. Dunno, I don't feel that good about him. I'm still grateful to marv for being the biggest factor in saving me D1, and I don't think he's a good choice for today's lynch for various reasons that I already expressed. And I'd still lean on town marv for a couple of reasons. 1) As scum marv generally feels responsible to his team and focuses a lot on directing the flow of the game. He hasn't really been a driving force in this game. 2) Scum marv is pretty aggressive and eagerly goes for mislynches from what I've seen. This marv, on the other hand, has felt pretty indecisive and unsure, which I think is more in line with town marv. And I somehow don't feel like he would have put effort into saving me as scum when I could have been easily lynched with his support (and he wouldn't really have gotten flak for it when everyone else wanted to lynch me as well). | ||
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Vivax
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I saved Cav when I was scum in one of my previous games and he was all happy and I was supertown for saving him, even though it ended with a mislynch nonetheless. You have to realize that in town vs town situation scum can do whatever they want and the more effort they put into such a situation, the better they look afterwards and good scum players like chopin know that. | ||
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Vivax
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I can see you being scum together, but I don't really feel like pushing for their lynch today cause HF apparently is healthy and back and if he stops hiding I'll reconsider based on the way he will try to solve the game. I usually manage to scumread HF when he's scum, though he will argue about that, and since he's been mostly complaining now I don't feel confident using that to read him. Anyway, I don't want this day ending with a settled wagon on Vayne and nobody discussing other options so we end up talking at night when scum decides who of town they should shoot. | ||
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Vivax
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Obi is probably right in saying it's just a plynch, and a one sided one on top of that. Better resort to filters than LAL. | ||
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Vivax
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##Vote ChairmanRay EZ On July 26 2014 15:33 Chairman Ray wrote: I'll explain to you why Vayne is mafia. Vayne rescinded his claim right when batsnacks claimed. Vayne's intention was never to square off in a 1v1. It was to force the vig to come out and then rescind the claim. His mafia partner will try to argue that this is not a scum move, so that Vayne gets off scot-free. The end result is that vig is forced to claim, and Vayne doesn't look any worse for it, which is exactly what is happening right now. The reason why mafia need to make this play is because if they shoot VTs at night, they lose. We have 4 roles alive and a vested VT. That's 5 potentially confirmed town. There are 4 VTs left. The only mislynch that can happen today is on a VT because a role would simply claim. With 3 VTs left, if mafia shoot 2 of them, we mass claim and then the game ends in a town victory. So the only thing mafia can do to survive until the next day is to reliably kill a role. That's why Vayne fakeclaimed and then rescinded. If Vayne was town, there would be no point to fakeclaiming. The only outcome of fakeclaiming is that the real role will counter claim you. We're not talking about a new player here; we're talking about Vayne, who is an expert in this field, fakeclaimed many times before, and knows exactly what was going to happen. This post is terrible cause he tries hard to find scum motives in Vayne's play without having read the whole situation in context. He states that Vayne's intention was to find out who the vig was without taking into account that bats claimed without even knowing that Vayne fakeclaimed. You wouldn't make such a statement beforehand without realizing that, unless you simply wanted to find some bullshit reason to get somebody lynched. | ||
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Teemursu
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On July 27 2014 16:46 Vivax wrote: Yay Obi. I was just looking for somebody to argue with. That's obviously a scummy post and makes me scum, push me pls. Ok ##Unvote ##Vote Vivax | ||
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