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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 27 2014 07:30 GMT
#2921
Actually...I am a miller, I would have returned as mafia. He couldn't have known I was the vig even if he was the cop.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22427 Posts
July 27 2014 07:40 GMT
#2922
I have to admit Miller-vig just sounds insane as a role.
But since you're the only vig apparently, I have to accept the craziness.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 27 2014 07:44 GMT
#2923
I think VA is scum or VT. If he was a blue, he wouldn't be so resigned to die and he probably wouldn't do these odd plays anyways.

batsnacks, did you look at my earlier games?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2014 07:44 GMT
#2924
On July 27 2014 16:25 Vivax wrote:
Good morning.

Bats, you realize that you are the counterclaim and vayne just is some claimer. Not that it matters much but just to get things right.

However I like the idea that it was a scum strategy to lure out the real vig.
Could also have been the town agenda to play like an idiot and laugh at us, either way he should probably be lynched.

##Unvote
##Vote VA


What in the actual fuck is this?

How is it that you have no idea what to make of VA's agenda but you end up voting him anyway?
Retired.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22427 Posts
July 27 2014 07:46 GMT
#2925
Yay Obi.
I was just looking for somebody to argue with.

That's obviously a scummy post and makes me scum, push me pls.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2014 07:48 GMT
#2926
I don't get it. Was the purpose to be as scummy as possible so someone would call you out on it?

##unvote
##vote vivax
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2014 07:48 GMT
#2927
Also, I'd really love if you didn't log on when I start going to bed at 4 am.
Retired.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 27 2014 07:49 GMT
#2928
Vivax, where did you towny earlier self disappear to?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22427 Posts
July 27 2014 07:50 GMT
#2929
Xata just lay back and watch the pros at work. You don't need to doubt me, it's still my good ol' townie self.

The only sad thing is that when it's morning for me Obi goes to bed, so I can't really do the work the pro way cause he can leave and I can't stop him.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2014 07:50 GMT
#2930
Why did people think he was town in the first place? I thought he was scummy on day 1 but people kept pushing some meta townread that I have yet to see posted in the thread.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2014 07:52 GMT
#2931
On July 27 2014 16:50 Vivax wrote:
Xata just lay back and watch the pros at work. You don't need to doubt me, it's still my good ol' townie self.

The only sad thing is that when it's morning for me Obi goes to bed, so I can't really do the work the pro way cause he can leave and I can't stop him.


What are you implying?
Retired.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 27 2014 07:53 GMT
#2932
This is scum Vivax: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/423047-got-mafia-lords-and-liars?user=Vivax

Now compare his activity and overall interest in what happens in the thread to this game.

Granted it looks like Vivax stopped caring at some point around the start of D2 :/
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22427 Posts
July 27 2014 07:54 GMT
#2933
On July 27 2014 05:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2014 04:22 Koshi wrote:
On July 27 2014 04:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 26 2014 20:50 Koshi wrote:
Obiwan. Evertything you said is not happening. I am townreading you and damdred. VA is an entirely other story. CR explains it really good.


At this point, anyway.

Also, I'm not entirely sure why Vivax's posts pacified me so much on day 1, because they were both filled with lots of useless fluff like "push your lynch target" and stupid shit like that.

Can we get some sort of "Obiwan total view of the game" post from you?

Something that proves you are following this game, thinking about this game and contains your solution to winning this game.


I don't have a solution to winning this game right now and I'm not going to pretend to. If I see something that makes me gun really hard for someone, you bet your ass I will. But I don't see anything superscum as of right now.

I don't understand why you put so much effort into trying to kill me/pressure me every single time you roll town. If I have a really good read and I want to be heard, you'll hear it.

Though, for the sake of contributing, I will say that lynching VA at this point should be considered nothing more than a policy lynch for doing nothing. If we're actually lynching him for fakeclaiming and rescinding, that's like epicmafia levels of derp. People do it all the time there and I don't see any difference between then and now.

I really need someone to walk me through it and I don't feel like CR's explanation was good enough to warrant my vote. If we can find scummy shit besides the supposed fakeclaim, then yeah, I might be able to get behind it. I just don't see it as alignment indicative and this lynch feels kinda lazy.

Vivax's scumread on me earlier in day 1 felt really contrived, and in hindsight, I have no idea why I let him talk me out of pushing him when he started posting a bunch of generic advice like "do this to be read as town, or don't and be scum," or, "push your lynch target," etc etc. A bunch of people are townreading him because of meta, and I'd like that explained to me at some point.

Though I will admit that my vote on Marv is nothing more than an OMGUS because his lists/reasonings are really lazy and I'd prefer to not die. I guess that makes me kinda selfish. He looks nothing like the domineering, impactful player that he was in Order, either.

I actually intended to give you next to nothing but I guess I kind of rambled about some stuff.


Man this post.
Especially the part about VA: "FOR THE SAKE OF CONTRIBUTING I WILL SAY".
Da fuck. Just say it. Stop hiding your opinion.

And to get more to the point, Koshi pointed out how VA did such wonky claims in a bunch of his latest scum games, let that flow into your reasoning as well please.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22427 Posts
July 27 2014 07:58 GMT
#2934
It's like whenever he posts Cav is scared shitless of getting murdered and saying anything, and the worst part is that I don't dare saying it's his town or scum play cause I'm afraid that's simply how he really is, or is it just his scum self?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 27 2014 07:58 GMT
#2935
This is what iamperfection said about Vivax in that game:

"Vivax- so i reread what he posted after i told him i think he is scum. Fucker still has not had a single strong push the entire game. vivax should be leading the town or fighting me if im wrong about sompething he simply does not care what is going on and isnt trying to catch scum. He does this because he is scum"
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2014 08:00 GMT
#2936
Vivax that post is ass and you should feel like ass for posting it.

On July 27 2014 16:53 Xatalos wrote:
This is scum Vivax: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/423047-got-mafia-lords-and-liars?user=Vivax

Now compare his activity and overall interest in what happens in the thread to this game.

Granted it looks like Vivax stopped caring at some point around the start of D2 :/


So we have several strikes against him as of right now:

1) Useless generic advice during day 1.
2) Awful, wishy-washy reads that are paired with votes.
3) Gameplay that resembles his scum meta.

His play reeks of red, and even though he (for some reason) was classified as towny for most of the game, I think I have some decent evidence that points to the contrary.

I'm not unvoting and one of us is going to die eventually.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2014 08:01 GMT
#2937
On July 27 2014 16:58 Vivax wrote:
It's like whenever he posts Cav is scared shitless of getting murdered and saying anything, and the worst part is that I don't dare saying it's his town or scum play cause I'm afraid that's simply how he really is, or is it just his scum self?


Maybe because you stupid fucks try to lynch me for nonreasons every single time I try to play. I am perfectly content sitting on my hands until I get a strong read.

Which I now have.
Retired.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 27 2014 08:03 GMT
#2938
Actually I meant that his activity and interest in the game has been pretty different from his scumgame. It's just that I don't really like how he's been D2. Or early D1 for that matter.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22427 Posts
July 27 2014 08:03 GMT
#2939
On July 27 2014 17:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2014 16:58 Vivax wrote:
It's like whenever he posts Cav is scared shitless of getting murdered and saying anything, and the worst part is that I don't dare saying it's his town or scum play cause I'm afraid that's simply how he really is, or is it just his scum self?


Maybe because you stupid fucks try to lynch me for nonreasons every single time I try to play. I am perfectly content sitting on my hands until I get a strong read.

Which I now have.


So you are also afraid of getting killed all the time even when you roll town?
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2014 08:07 GMT
#2940
Dude, a simple look at my meta reveals that I've survived past day 1 less than 50% of the time, and it's always because town decides to shove its head up its ass and kill me right off the bat.

On July 27 2014 17:03 Xatalos wrote:
Actually I meant that his activity and interest in the game has been pretty different from his scumgame. It's just that I don't really like how he's been D2. Or early D1 for that matter.


I don't see it, I think he's been acting scummy and I don't get his angle at all. Do you disagree?
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