• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:08
CEST 02:08
KST 09:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202534Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder9EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced50BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Serral wins EWC 2025 Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ" Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup Weeklies and Monthlies Info Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Scmdraft 2 - 0.9.0 Preview [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers?
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 561 users

IV Titanic Mafia: It Has Been a Privilege - Page 147

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 145 146 147 148 149 166 Next
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 27 2014 07:30 GMT
#2921
Actually...I am a miller, I would have returned as mafia. He couldn't have known I was the vig even if he was the cop.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
July 27 2014 07:40 GMT
#2922
I have to admit Miller-vig just sounds insane as a role.
But since you're the only vig apparently, I have to accept the craziness.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 27 2014 07:44 GMT
#2923
I think VA is scum or VT. If he was a blue, he wouldn't be so resigned to die and he probably wouldn't do these odd plays anyways.

batsnacks, did you look at my earlier games?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2014 07:44 GMT
#2924
On July 27 2014 16:25 Vivax wrote:
Good morning.

Bats, you realize that you are the counterclaim and vayne just is some claimer. Not that it matters much but just to get things right.

However I like the idea that it was a scum strategy to lure out the real vig.
Could also have been the town agenda to play like an idiot and laugh at us, either way he should probably be lynched.

##Unvote
##Vote VA


What in the actual fuck is this?

How is it that you have no idea what to make of VA's agenda but you end up voting him anyway?
Retired.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
July 27 2014 07:46 GMT
#2925
Yay Obi.
I was just looking for somebody to argue with.

That's obviously a scummy post and makes me scum, push me pls.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2014 07:48 GMT
#2926
I don't get it. Was the purpose to be as scummy as possible so someone would call you out on it?

##unvote
##vote vivax
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2014 07:48 GMT
#2927
Also, I'd really love if you didn't log on when I start going to bed at 4 am.
Retired.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 27 2014 07:49 GMT
#2928
Vivax, where did you towny earlier self disappear to?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
July 27 2014 07:50 GMT
#2929
Xata just lay back and watch the pros at work. You don't need to doubt me, it's still my good ol' townie self.

The only sad thing is that when it's morning for me Obi goes to bed, so I can't really do the work the pro way cause he can leave and I can't stop him.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2014 07:50 GMT
#2930
Why did people think he was town in the first place? I thought he was scummy on day 1 but people kept pushing some meta townread that I have yet to see posted in the thread.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2014 07:52 GMT
#2931
On July 27 2014 16:50 Vivax wrote:
Xata just lay back and watch the pros at work. You don't need to doubt me, it's still my good ol' townie self.

The only sad thing is that when it's morning for me Obi goes to bed, so I can't really do the work the pro way cause he can leave and I can't stop him.


What are you implying?
Retired.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 27 2014 07:53 GMT
#2932
This is scum Vivax: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/423047-got-mafia-lords-and-liars?user=Vivax

Now compare his activity and overall interest in what happens in the thread to this game.

Granted it looks like Vivax stopped caring at some point around the start of D2 :/
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
July 27 2014 07:54 GMT
#2933
On July 27 2014 05:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2014 04:22 Koshi wrote:
On July 27 2014 04:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 26 2014 20:50 Koshi wrote:
Obiwan. Evertything you said is not happening. I am townreading you and damdred. VA is an entirely other story. CR explains it really good.


At this point, anyway.

Also, I'm not entirely sure why Vivax's posts pacified me so much on day 1, because they were both filled with lots of useless fluff like "push your lynch target" and stupid shit like that.

Can we get some sort of "Obiwan total view of the game" post from you?

Something that proves you are following this game, thinking about this game and contains your solution to winning this game.


I don't have a solution to winning this game right now and I'm not going to pretend to. If I see something that makes me gun really hard for someone, you bet your ass I will. But I don't see anything superscum as of right now.

I don't understand why you put so much effort into trying to kill me/pressure me every single time you roll town. If I have a really good read and I want to be heard, you'll hear it.

Though, for the sake of contributing, I will say that lynching VA at this point should be considered nothing more than a policy lynch for doing nothing. If we're actually lynching him for fakeclaiming and rescinding, that's like epicmafia levels of derp. People do it all the time there and I don't see any difference between then and now.

I really need someone to walk me through it and I don't feel like CR's explanation was good enough to warrant my vote. If we can find scummy shit besides the supposed fakeclaim, then yeah, I might be able to get behind it. I just don't see it as alignment indicative and this lynch feels kinda lazy.

Vivax's scumread on me earlier in day 1 felt really contrived, and in hindsight, I have no idea why I let him talk me out of pushing him when he started posting a bunch of generic advice like "do this to be read as town, or don't and be scum," or, "push your lynch target," etc etc. A bunch of people are townreading him because of meta, and I'd like that explained to me at some point.

Though I will admit that my vote on Marv is nothing more than an OMGUS because his lists/reasonings are really lazy and I'd prefer to not die. I guess that makes me kinda selfish. He looks nothing like the domineering, impactful player that he was in Order, either.

I actually intended to give you next to nothing but I guess I kind of rambled about some stuff.


Man this post.
Especially the part about VA: "FOR THE SAKE OF CONTRIBUTING I WILL SAY".
Da fuck. Just say it. Stop hiding your opinion.

And to get more to the point, Koshi pointed out how VA did such wonky claims in a bunch of his latest scum games, let that flow into your reasoning as well please.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
July 27 2014 07:58 GMT
#2934
It's like whenever he posts Cav is scared shitless of getting murdered and saying anything, and the worst part is that I don't dare saying it's his town or scum play cause I'm afraid that's simply how he really is, or is it just his scum self?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 27 2014 07:58 GMT
#2935
This is what iamperfection said about Vivax in that game:

"Vivax- so i reread what he posted after i told him i think he is scum. Fucker still has not had a single strong push the entire game. vivax should be leading the town or fighting me if im wrong about sompething he simply does not care what is going on and isnt trying to catch scum. He does this because he is scum"
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2014 08:00 GMT
#2936
Vivax that post is ass and you should feel like ass for posting it.

On July 27 2014 16:53 Xatalos wrote:
This is scum Vivax: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/423047-got-mafia-lords-and-liars?user=Vivax

Now compare his activity and overall interest in what happens in the thread to this game.

Granted it looks like Vivax stopped caring at some point around the start of D2 :/


So we have several strikes against him as of right now:

1) Useless generic advice during day 1.
2) Awful, wishy-washy reads that are paired with votes.
3) Gameplay that resembles his scum meta.

His play reeks of red, and even though he (for some reason) was classified as towny for most of the game, I think I have some decent evidence that points to the contrary.

I'm not unvoting and one of us is going to die eventually.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2014 08:01 GMT
#2937
On July 27 2014 16:58 Vivax wrote:
It's like whenever he posts Cav is scared shitless of getting murdered and saying anything, and the worst part is that I don't dare saying it's his town or scum play cause I'm afraid that's simply how he really is, or is it just his scum self?


Maybe because you stupid fucks try to lynch me for nonreasons every single time I try to play. I am perfectly content sitting on my hands until I get a strong read.

Which I now have.
Retired.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 27 2014 08:03 GMT
#2938
Actually I meant that his activity and interest in the game has been pretty different from his scumgame. It's just that I don't really like how he's been D2. Or early D1 for that matter.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
July 27 2014 08:03 GMT
#2939
On July 27 2014 17:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2014 16:58 Vivax wrote:
It's like whenever he posts Cav is scared shitless of getting murdered and saying anything, and the worst part is that I don't dare saying it's his town or scum play cause I'm afraid that's simply how he really is, or is it just his scum self?


Maybe because you stupid fucks try to lynch me for nonreasons every single time I try to play. I am perfectly content sitting on my hands until I get a strong read.

Which I now have.


So you are also afraid of getting killed all the time even when you roll town?
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2014 08:07 GMT
#2940
Dude, a simple look at my meta reveals that I've survived past day 1 less than 50% of the time, and it's always because town decides to shove its head up its ass and kill me right off the bat.

On July 27 2014 17:03 Xatalos wrote:
Actually I meant that his activity and interest in the game has been pretty different from his scumgame. It's just that I don't really like how he's been D2. Or early D1 for that matter.


I don't see it, I think he's been acting scummy and I don't get his angle at all. Do you disagree?
Retired.
Prev 1 145 146 147 148 149 166 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9h 52m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 273
RuFF_SC2 34
Nina 14
StarCraft: Brood War
ggaemo 440
Aegong 81
firebathero 57
Sexy 56
NaDa 24
Barracks 15
Dota 2
monkeys_forever708
League of Legends
JimRising 584
febbydoto4
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox797
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor214
Other Games
tarik_tv23140
summit1g13162
gofns11528
Grubby3335
shahzam454
ViBE95
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1054
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH195
• RyuSc2 72
• davetesta12
• gosughost_ 5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21842
Other Games
• imaqtpie1168
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
9h 52m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
13h 52m
Bonyth vs TBD
WardiTV European League
15h 52m
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
HeRoMaRinE vs MaxPax
Wardi Open
1d 10h
OSC
1d 23h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
HCC Europe
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.