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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 26 2014 16:59 GMT
#2781
On July 27 2014 01:55 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2014 01:51 Koshi wrote:
On July 27 2014 01:49 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2014 01:10 Koshi wrote:
On July 27 2014 00:57 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2014 00:40 Koshi wrote:
The problem is that all other lynches are people marv said are town Xatalos/VA and all his preferred lynches are people I think are town aka Damdred/Obiwan.


Maybe we should find common ground and lynch Vivax.


Why do you read damdred as town?

It's not that he is a shining beacon of townyness. But read the first post on the second and third page of his filter. I can see a town making those. Same for everything in between.

Is he really that scummy? I don't see it tbh.


He is suspicious. He really is. But check your main scum filters. Doesn't it looks like mislynching damdred is part of mafias agenda? Really, look how there is a timid scumread on damdred day one that continues on and on. Timid scumreads. Like people are trying to make townies go against him creating big cases, leading a mislynch and getting mislynched the other day.

Do you get what I'm trying to say here?

Yes. That's why I am being overconfident saying he is town . To balance the sneaky mafia agenda.


Alright, so, if you ALSO believe this, you should be voting Xatalos because he has been doing that since the beginning of the game.

Hmm. Well. I don't like it because I really feel like VA has more of a chance to be scum with marv.

I think Xatalos is a town pawn for scum more than I think he is scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 26 2014 17:00 GMT
#2782
All I can say is that I'm clearly town by now. Compare even my general activity to any of my scum games - the difference is quite big. Not to mention that I never make these thought spamming marathons as scum. If you're town and don't believe it, you'll be sorry post-game. If you're scum, keep going.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 26 2014 17:02 GMT
#2783
On July 26 2014 08:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2014 08:24 Xatalos wrote:
On July 26 2014 08:19 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 26 2014 08:18 Xatalos wrote:
So either VA is town or scum, but batsnacks is town for sure. That's good information at least.


This kind of post makes me want to lynch you SO hard. SO HARD.


What, I'm being transparent by spamming my thoughts. Go ahead...


"So either VA is town or scum" NO SHIT! He is either Protoss, Zerg or Terran on Starcraft also.

Sorry, I don't want to be rude. No, I'm not Canadian for saying sorry after being rude.


Btw I'm starting to wonder if GB might be scum after all. Nitpicking posts like this come from scum relatively often. Ugh.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 26 2014 17:03 GMT
#2784
On July 27 2014 01:58 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2014 01:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2014 01:51 Koshi wrote:
On July 27 2014 01:49 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2014 01:10 Koshi wrote:
On July 27 2014 00:57 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2014 00:40 Koshi wrote:
The problem is that all other lynches are people marv said are town Xatalos/VA and all his preferred lynches are people I think are town aka Damdred/Obiwan.


Maybe we should find common ground and lynch Vivax.


Why do you read damdred as town?

It's not that he is a shining beacon of townyness. But read the first post on the second and third page of his filter. I can see a town making those. Same for everything in between.

Is he really that scummy? I don't see it tbh.


He is suspicious. He really is. But check your main scum filters. Doesn't it looks like mislynching damdred is part of mafias agenda? Really, look how there is a timid scumread on damdred day one that continues on and on. Timid scumreads. Like people are trying to make townies go against him creating big cases, leading a mislynch and getting mislynched the other day.

Do you get what I'm trying to say here?

Yes. That's why I am being overconfident saying he is town . To balance the sneaky mafia agenda.


Alright, so, if you ALSO believe this, you should be voting Xatalos because he has been doing that since the beginning of the game.


I mean (1) lots of fluff, (2) being hard defended by a possible mafia, (3) almost no scum hunt on his filter and (4) contributing with the timid scumread on damdred, (5) being saved, continues to post fluff without Scumhunting. Don't you think there are reasons enough?

(1) I agree. It is insane. Problem is I can see town Xatalos do the same.
(2) Problem I have here is that if marv is scum he can townread Xatalos to make him his bitch. If marv is scum, Xatalos doesn't have to be scum at all.
(3) Yup. It is annoying. But like I said. I could see town Xatalos do it as well.
(4) Yup. Agree. Extremely bad. Very scummy.
(5) Yup. It is annoying. But like I said. I could see town Xatalos do it as well.


Don't get me wrong. I would lynch Xatalos. The townread from marv towards Xatalos is holding me back. And the fact that what VA did was not good for town. And the fact that marv just let's VA slide.

I am tunneled on marv today.
I had a good night of sleep.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 26 2014 17:05 GMT
#2785
well there's a reason marv is considered a betteer player then most. either he is town and is the only one not being an idiot or is he is scum getting cred either way he will look good when im town.
I come in for the scraps
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 26 2014 17:06 GMT
#2786
On July 27 2014 02:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
well there's a reason marv is considered a betteer player then most. either he is town and is the only one not being an idiot or is he is scum getting cred either way he will look good when im town.

You really think we should lynch Xatalos?
I had a good night of sleep.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 26 2014 17:08 GMT
#2787
Tbh I think I've contributed more than GB even though he keeps saying that I only post fluff. Most of GB's filter is asking useless questions / presenting useless theories. I've probably spent more posts explaining stuff to him than he has on scumhunting.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 26 2014 17:08 GMT
#2788
On July 27 2014 02:02 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2014 08:34 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 26 2014 08:24 Xatalos wrote:
On July 26 2014 08:19 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 26 2014 08:18 Xatalos wrote:
So either VA is town or scum, but batsnacks is town for sure. That's good information at least.


This kind of post makes me want to lynch you SO hard. SO HARD.


What, I'm being transparent by spamming my thoughts. Go ahead...


"So either VA is town or scum" NO SHIT! He is either Protoss, Zerg or Terran on Starcraft also.

Sorry, I don't want to be rude. No, I'm not Canadian for saying sorry after being rude.


Btw I'm starting to wonder if GB might be scum after all. Nitpicking posts like this come from scum relatively often. Ugh.

So you really love posts like these and would not comment on them?:
On July 27 2014 02:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
well there's a reason marv is considered a betteer player then most. either he is town and is the only one not being an idiot or is he is scum getting cred either way he will look good when im town.

I had a good night of sleep.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 26 2014 17:09 GMT
#2789
Not really sure what there is worth commenting about on that post.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 26 2014 17:12 GMT
#2790
It's a shitty post that just screams:

I AM TOWN GUYS
LOOK HOW TOWN I AM
LOOK I MAKE THIS THEORY ABOUT MARV BUT I AM JUST YELLING I AM TOWN
LOOK HOW TOWN MY PERSPECTIVE IS
I AM SO TOWN
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 26 2014 17:13 GMT
#2791
Nha. afk 18 hours.

marv/VA
I had a good night of sleep.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 26 2014 17:14 GMT
#2792
I have no problems with lynching VA.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 26 2014 17:19 GMT
#2793
What do you think of marv's reaction to the VA/batsnacks claim shenanigans Koshi? Or did you go already?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 26 2014 17:27 GMT
#2794
On July 27 2014 02:13 Koshi wrote:
Nha. afk 18 hours.

marv/VA


You are tunnelling. Really, you are.
Look, all we've got from those two are WIFOM scenarios. I find marv suspicious because he is not the aggressive marv I saw on vets vs juniors, but I don't know, I still believe he could be town. If you believe marv is hard defending Vayne, you also da believe that regarding Xatalos and if marv is scum, you have to admit that one of the. Is certainly town. You can use this argument against me because I said that Xatalos was being hard defended by possible scum, but this is only one of FIVE arguments not based on WIFOM.

Vayne's reason to lynch is WIFOM. Look, it all starts with "he fake claimed, so he is mafia". Then it goes to "but it is a bad move as mafia, so he is probably town". Then, "but marv and him probably made this so we think that they are both town when they are actually mafia". When you reach this level of thinking, you know it's WIFOM and that it's better to gather more information/search for actual facts than using this as the basis of a lynch.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 26 2014 17:28 GMT
#2795
I realised I'm very bad at phrasing. Tell me if you have any doubts
I'm adorable.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 26 2014 17:41 GMT
#2796
On July 27 2014 02:06 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2014 02:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
well there's a reason marv is considered a betteer player then most. either he is town and is the only one not being an idiot or is he is scum getting cred either way he will look good when im town.

You really think we should lynch Xatalos?


no we should lynch CR, his posts do not take into account the entire picture and when i call him out on it he simply dismisses it as if nothing happened. that combined with his very few posts being those gigantic dumpster posts...reminds me of that last game he was scum in with HF and also that cop mafia game.
I come in for the scraps
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 26 2014 18:12 GMT
#2797
On July 26 2014 09:05 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2014 08:49 Xatalos wrote:
On July 26 2014 08:45 Chairman Ray wrote:
On July 26 2014 08:44 Xatalos wrote:
That's not very exhaustive though. What about me? ObiWan? Damdred? Those are pretty much all the non-confirmed players left, haha...


You or Chopin is probably the last mafia.


....You just chose the two most unlikely options but fine. At least I can see VA being scum.

Why Chopin though btw?


Chopin could be mafia because of the way he pushed the vote off you the first day and the way he's trying to push the vote off Vayne today.

Chopin put a lot of effort drawing the lynch off of you, but not very much putting the lynch onto OWS. So instead, Nav got lynched. You were a good lynch, OWS was a maybe good lynch, Nav was not a good lynch. Their reasoning for why you were town was poor as well. I don't know why they thought you were town just because you did the weird ass claim thing. The bottom line is that you got out of the lynch without having to do any scumhunting or pro-town things. Their reasoning for Vayne being town is also poor. The bottom line here is that Vayne attempted to bait out the vig, and now he might get away scot-free. I do not see a reason why scum would not make these kinds of plays when town falls for them so hard, and Chopin is orchestrating it so well.

If you are town and Chopin is mafia, Chopin let Nav get lynched because Nav was a bad lynch and would probably not have been lynched the next day. You and OWS could easily be the next lynches. Take the hard lynches when you can and save the easy ones for later. As for today, if a mafia gets lynched, town wins. If Chopin and Vayne are mafia, Chopin needs to go all-in to make sure Vayne doesn't get lynched, and he seems to be doing just that.


I think this post from CR was pretty towny.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 26 2014 18:14 GMT
#2798
It seems to consider different scenarios and it appears as if there's a genuine thought process within the post. IMO
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 26 2014 18:16 GMT
#2799
I'm sad that he never explained his read on me+Koshi though....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 26 2014 18:32 GMT
#2800
CR was the first to go after marv with that post. VA is just claiming scum at this point.
I had a good night of sleep.
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