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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2014 07:11 GMT
#2681
On July 26 2014 16:10 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2014 16:07 batsnacks wrote:
On July 26 2014 16:04 Teemursu wrote:
I'm catching up slowly, can someone make me a quick recap of things?


VA claimed vigi
I claimed vigi
VA is scum

Vote him immediately.

Didn't someone rescind their claim?


Don't think about it or you'll see the plot holes.
Retired.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 26 2014 07:11 GMT
#2682
On July 26 2014 16:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
No, that doesn't make any sense.

That just means mafia counterclaims later for real. There's nothing stopping mafia from counterclaiming a spent vigilante later on because he has no way to confirm himself besides his one shot. If batsnacks had another shot, he could just shoot VA at night if he was seriously counterclaiming and then the counterclaim being serious still doesn't make any sense.

Also, you have no idea what the blue roles do. For all you know, they could be a bunch of BoxeRs. The chance of having a bunch of counterclaim wars in LYLO, if we ever get to it, is incredibly high provided the roles don't get completely wiped out.


Do you believe VA knew with 100% confidence that I was the vigilante, even though it is a semi-closed setup, after day 1 only?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 26 2014 07:16 GMT
#2683
Please say you believe. It will make my day 3 so much easier.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2014 07:21 GMT
#2684
On July 26 2014 16:16 batsnacks wrote:
Please say you believe. It will make my day 3 so much easier.


I don't think it matters either way. But I will say that if he actually figured out that you had a role, you would've died at night.

Also, I don't see how my reaction to this implies what my alignment is one way or the other.
Retired.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 26 2014 07:23 GMT
#2685
On July 26 2014 16:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2014 16:16 batsnacks wrote:
Please say you believe. It will make my day 3 so much easier.


I don't think it matters either way. But I will say that if he actually figured out that you had a role, you would've died at night.

Also, I don't see how my reaction to this implies what my alignment is one way or the other.


Well I thank you for your gift of an easy day 3. Assuming I'm left alive.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2014 07:25 GMT
#2686
I still don't get it.
Retired.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 26 2014 07:27 GMT
#2687
On July 26 2014 16:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I still don't get it.


You believed this.

On July 26 2014 08:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
I thought batsnacks town read me, i knew he was the real vig zz. why would I claim fake shot as mafia with only 2 mafia left?

I rescind the claim.


So I vote you tomorrow. It's simple.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2014 07:30 GMT
#2688
I never said that I believed it either way, I am simply stating the facts regarding your non-case and they don't make sense.

But if you're really going to vote me for non-reasons then I simply don't see the point of trying to convince you of anything.
Retired.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 26 2014 07:33 GMT
#2689
I guess it's possible that he noticed your breadcrumb?

By the way, I agree that the night kills were definitely weird. Well, rayn being scum explains it somewhat, and the high probability of Chopin being protected. I'll have to think about Chopin again if he continues being alive with the Doctor dead though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 26 2014 07:33 GMT
#2690
On July 26 2014 16:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I never said that I believed it either way, I am simply stating the facts regarding your non-case and they don't make sense.

But if you're really going to vote me for non-reasons then I simply don't see the point of trying to convince you of anything.


I need you to say whether you believe what VA said or not. That's what I asked you. The answer to that question is what I want you to say.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 26 2014 07:34 GMT
#2691
Although I'm a bit skeptical that VA would notice the breadcrumb when he barely plays the game anyway.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2014 07:36 GMT
#2692
You don't need an answer because it's completely irrelevant to literally everything. Him knowing whether or not you were actually the vigilante at this point is such unnecessary information that the fact that you're pushing it this hard at this point is concerning.

And I can't even give you one because I don't give a shit whether or not he actually knew you were the vigilante.
Retired.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 26 2014 07:37 GMT
#2693
ObiWanShinobi

I'm trying to be really clear here:

On July 26 2014 08:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
I thought batsnacks town read me, i knew he was the real vig zz. why would I claim fake shot as mafia with only 2 mafia left?

I rescind the claim.


Do you believe VayneWuthority knew I was the real vig at the time of this posting?
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2014 07:38 GMT
#2694
On July 26 2014 16:34 Xatalos wrote:
Although I'm a bit skeptical that VA would notice the breadcrumb when he barely plays the game anyway.


If VA actually noticed the breadcrumb then batsnacks would simply be identified and killed.

If anything, believing that he knew batsnacks was the vigilante is actually evidence that he's town since he would never give us that information as mafia and wouldn't let batsnacks live past night 1.

And if they have a roleblocker, then the accusations make even less sense because rayn would still be alive.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2014 07:39 GMT
#2695
On July 26 2014 16:37 batsnacks wrote:
ObiWanShinobi

I'm trying to be really clear here:

Show nested quote +
On July 26 2014 08:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
I thought batsnacks town read me, i knew he was the real vig zz. why would I claim fake shot as mafia with only 2 mafia left?

I rescind the claim.


Do you believe VayneWuthority knew I was the real vig at the time of this posting?


Obviously?

I mean, if you claimed at that point then yeah, I'd say he would believe it because he would know that he didn't actually shoot rayn and someone else did.
Retired.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 26 2014 07:42 GMT
#2696
If vayne is town then I really dislike that he did this. I refuse not to vote him though.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2014 07:44 GMT
#2697
Understandable.

I am going to bed. I expect this thread to be another 25 pages longer by the time I return.
Retired.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 26 2014 07:46 GMT
#2698
I think ObiWan is a lot more town based on his latest posts. Unless maybe he is scum together with VA, in which case VA should be lynched first. It just feels unlikely that scum ObiWan would defend town VA in this situation when he's on the lynching block himself.

##Unvote
##Vote VayneAuthority
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 26 2014 07:49 GMT
#2699
Or perhaps it could be a calculated risk to distance himself from a VA town flip? Seems like a weird scum move anyway. He's basically limiting his voting options in a situation where he's in real danger of getting lynched.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 26 2014 07:50 GMT
#2700
I think VA/Damdred might be the best lynches for today after all.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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