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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 11:49 GMT
#2055
I'm not sure if I follow. Isn't it pretty natural that the scumteam would be happy to vote for me/Navillus but not for ObiWan if he, indeed, was scum?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 11:50 GMT
#2056
The rest = not my townreads
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 11:53 GMT
#2060
Koshi, I've seen Vivax as scum and it's not like the Vivax in this game.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 12:01 GMT
#2065
On July 25 2014 20:52 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 20:49 Xatalos wrote:
I'm not sure if I follow. Isn't it pretty natural that the scumteam would be happy to vote for me/Navillus but not for ObiWan if he, indeed, was scum?


Again, even if he was town he wouldn't be the best choice, or fuck knows what scum chooses to do. Yes, they wouldn't vote him if he was scum, they also wouldn't vote him if he was a shitty looking townie.

Just...use other arguments and not this for Obi being scum please.


I'm not saying it necessarily makes him scum. It's just the most sensible explanation for why it was a struggle to get votes on him. Of course scum might have preferred to lynch me instead or something. But it feels natural that scum would jump on Navillus to save ObiWan after that, I guess.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 12:02 GMT
#2067
On July 25 2014 21:01 Chopin Liszt wrote:
Maybe. I don't care so much anymore what Xatalos does though.

Chopin


"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 12:17 GMT
#2076
On July 25 2014 21:04 Chopin Liszt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 21:02 Xatalos wrote:
On July 25 2014 21:01 Chopin Liszt wrote:
Maybe. I don't care so much anymore what Xatalos does though.

Chopin



I didn't mean it how you are interpreting it.

Chopin


Oh, you meant it as being "cleared"....

By the way, you're almost certainly dead tonight (especially with 3KP). So you should probably post your conclusions at the deadline rather than right away, although it might be good to discuss some stuff.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 12:20 GMT
#2079
On July 25 2014 21:19 Vivax wrote:
It's like he gets an achievement for lynching me, that's the feeling I get.


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"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 12:25 GMT
#2081
"Being shit" isn't really a great reason to lynch someone, Koshi...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 12:40 GMT
#2096
Tbh this just feels like a town vs town ego fight. Stop it for now? I think one of you might even die at night.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 12:42 GMT
#2099
I don't really have a problem with believing that Haru and Teemursu are town at the moment. At least they're certainly not scum together.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 12:44 GMT
#2102
I think Koshi is pretty reasonable and "safe" as scum, which he isn't here at all...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 12:51 GMT
#2108
Btw does Palmar ever actually play? I've only seen him being semi-away for the whole game as both alignments. I think as scum he was more active at the start and then his activity started to disappear, whereas as town he was pretty invisible all game.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 12:54 GMT
#2110
I've never seen scum Koshi playing like this though. I'm pretty sure.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 13:04 GMT
#2117
Actually you were scumbuddies in the GoT game, Vivax and Koshi. Comparing that game to this one, I think Vivax is very different but the difference isn't as big when it comes to Koshi. He does have weirdly confident pushes there as well:

On August 15 2013 22:40 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 22:30 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi. stop being a moron. The answers are in my filter.

e.g. chromatically was explained in the post i made making a case on rayn.

Mocsta is confirmed scum.

Where did you lose the Risen read?


So I guess it's possible that Koshi could be scum, especially when I've always incorrectly townread him so far.

I don't think he's among the best lynches at all though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 13:08 GMT
#2119
Hmm
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 13:08 GMT
#2121
I guess this tunneling is more in line with his scum play in GoT....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 13:09 GMT
#2123
Scumslip?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 13:12 GMT
#2127
I think he might be onto something though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 13:13 GMT
#2129
Well, it's true that Koshi was a lot less active in GoT though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 13:14 GMT
#2131
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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