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Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 24 2014 23:36 GMT
#1848
On July 25 2014 08:12 Koshi wrote:
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On July 25 2014 08:07 Chopin Liszt wrote:
Well i didn't know your sheeping thing was a joke when i read through because i assumed it was related to you sheeping chopin on his reasoning for xata being probably town so to me it looked like you were sheeping your scum reads reasoning for a person being town.

1) It also implies that you are switching your reads to opportunistically bolster your attack on vivax and that when you've done that you later renege on this switch to leave your options open a la damd scum read.

Finally you berate chopin for not scum reading vivax but you had us as your scum read too which implied you knew we were town.

All 3 of those things are mafia things. (well 2 if you imply your sheep thing was a joke)

1) What reads? I fucking didn't change a single read except marv. And I am pretty sure I didn't know it was marv till he did the sucking asshole thing. And he had a 4 page filter when he did that. Somewhere there I gave him a bit more space. Even called him a bad lynch right after I put him as scum in my list.
Still it is 1 person I swap around on a bit. It's not scummy at fucking all. And you don't know shit. Also marv is calling me fucking town. Like full green town. Where do you Mr. Fucking AFK the entire game go against your other hydra head? Siding with marv his very slight townread against his fucking full green townread.

2) So town never berates a scumread for not wanting to lynch another scumread? It's impossbile to do or something?



AND 1+2) I ONLY DID THIS WITH MARV. BECAUSE HE IS MARV. So the entire case stands with I talk to marv as if he is scum and I talk to marv as if he is town.

VERY FUCKING SCUMMY.


Why do I have to follow a read just because my hydra head thinks it's true. What kind of terrible logic koshi am I dealing with here?

Your damd read goes through weird swings of him being do not lynch town list to lynch again when he doesn't provide more info. You use it to attack vivax here:
On July 24 2014 22:15 Koshi wrote:
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On July 24 2014 22:13 Teemursu wrote:
On July 24 2014 22:10 Chopin Liszt wrote:
On July 24 2014 22:09 Teemursu wrote:
Reading through Damdred's filter now. Could people who have made cases against him link them to me, please?

Better question: you tell me why he might be town

I'm better at scumhunting. I'm pretty bad at forming towncircles/finding town. Just because someone isn't the towniest town doesn't warrant a lynch to me.

I'm not switching to Damdred if I'm not convinced he's scum.

Damdred is doing absolutely nothing just like he was doing absolutely nothing in Storm 2. Vivax knows that he did nothing in Storm 2. Still he pushes Damdred for doing nothing here.


Vivax, What is the difference between Damdred in Storm 2 and here?


Bear in mind if he's done NOTHING this game like storm you effectively town read him for doing nothing but then you agree with teemu when he wants to lynch obi/damd
On July 24 2014 22:34 Koshi wrote:
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On July 24 2014 22:32 Teemursu wrote:
On July 24 2014 22:26 Chopin Liszt wrote:
The fact that we are sleepwalking towards this lynch with almost everyone on Xatalos either barely here or not at all, and all the votes off Xatalos being spread about, means that Xatalos is probably town.

So let's not lynch him.

Thing is, I'm not reading anyone that's voting Xata as strongly scum, which is making me paranoid that I'm mafiasiding if I vote with you/Xata/Damdred/Obi and I'm not so sure about Koshi and Vivax.

This is probably really bad/idiotic/beginner-like, but it's my honest feel of paranoia.

Right now I just want to go by my reads and vote on either Obi, or now Damdred, who I just went through and am pretty convinced that he's a good shot at finding mafia.

No you are on the right track. Perfect.


And also say if damd continues to do nothing/leave you'd lynch him (even though you're town reading him for doing the thing you state you will lynch him for).
On July 24 2014 22:44 Koshi wrote:
Damdred
If you leave I will lynch you.


After this post you ask a question to damd but then when he responds you drop it entirely and don't even care about his response at all. You then add him to your question of who to lynch to VA.

On July 24 2014 23:54 Koshi wrote:
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On July 24 2014 23:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 24 2014 23:45 Koshi wrote:
On July 24 2014 23:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
what happened to that palmar case?

cant believe i read all that it was gibberish. god bless mornings. only got like 1 slightly stronger scumread out of 5000 pages

VA please shed your smartness over this thread.

And not like in the previous game because you were the reason I didn't shoot Kush N1 btw.


yea that game sucked in general got ritoky'd. I picked it up endgame like I usually do though, nobody would vote HF with me or anything tho.

So who is scum or the best lynch out of Vivax/Damdred/Obiwan/Xatalos

If you don't feel like going for 4 names. Just say Vivax is scum.



To surmise what vivax wrote was entirely true. You town read damd to attack vivax and then scum read him when the lynch was around to keep your options open. You didn't try and interact with him after your initial question but still added him to a lynch list despite him responding to you and talking.
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 24 2014 23:46 GMT
#1855
On July 25 2014 08:24 Koshi wrote:
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On July 25 2014 08:19 Teemursu wrote:
Rayn can you explain why you think CL is town?

It doesn't matter. CL can't be lynched. You need to lynch him D3 if he is still alive. Then just lynch him and don't think twice. With 700nk marv always dies.


If you entertain the idea of marv being scum. Look at the ideas he pushed in the thread. Like the Xatalos townread because Xatalos claimed veteran to bait a scumshot. Look at the list he made with his scumreads.

And for the love of God ignore everything Holyflare posts because that guy probably shit and puked his brains out. He is 100% retarded and thinks he can bully newbies while not even reading the thread.


You're so fucking rude it's actually depressing. I spent so much of my time actually keeping up with the thread so that my reads would be up to date when i cane back and I'm posting logical shit based on events in this game and my opinions on them and you denounce everything i say as useless trash and you should just ignore me? Same pretty much goes to teemersu who ignores every question i throw at him and says i shouldn't even be playing.

So bm.

Let me know when someone actually wants to play mafia in this thread.
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 24 2014 23:52 GMT
#1862
How is gb martyring?
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 24 2014 23:55 GMT
#1867
On July 25 2014 08:52 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 08:46 Chopin Liszt wrote:
On July 25 2014 08:24 Koshi wrote:
On July 25 2014 08:19 Teemursu wrote:
Rayn can you explain why you think CL is town?

It doesn't matter. CL can't be lynched. You need to lynch him D3 if he is still alive. Then just lynch him and don't think twice. With 700nk marv always dies.


If you entertain the idea of marv being scum. Look at the ideas he pushed in the thread. Like the Xatalos townread because Xatalos claimed veteran to bait a scumshot. Look at the list he made with his scumreads.

And for the love of God ignore everything Holyflare posts because that guy probably shit and puked his brains out. He is 100% retarded and thinks he can bully newbies while not even reading the thread.


You're so fucking rude it's actually depressing. I spent so much of my time actually keeping up with the thread so that my reads would be up to date when i cane back and I'm posting logical shit based on events in this game and my opinions on them and you denounce everything i say as useless trash and you should just ignore me? Same pretty much goes to teemersu who ignores every question i throw at him and says i shouldn't even be playing.

So bm.

Let me know when someone actually wants to play mafia in this thread.

And both Teemu and me spend even more time than you and you fucking shit on me while you were back siding with Vivax. And then you are rude towards Teemu saying he should be "respecting vets".

And I think only then I came after you. Maybe a bit earlier because you are like Teemu said completely fucking useless.



Where on earth was i rude to him and told him to respect vets? All I've done is point out things I've seen in the thread. Who cares if you've spent all that time beforehand playing, I'm here trying to figure things out and vivax's case is very sheepable, i even just talked through why and i explained my side of the argument but here you are yet agajn yelling that I'm being useless. Ok koshi. Go away.
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 24 2014 23:56 GMT
#1869
On July 25 2014 08:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 08:52 Chopin Liszt wrote:
How is gb martyring?


Why can't you love me?


Well i think you're town for much the same reason vivax did earlier.
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 25 2014 00:14 GMT
#1893
So actually answer my questions then.
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 25 2014 00:15 GMT
#1896
Rayn you're just doing what you were complaining koshi was doing.....
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 25 2014 00:22 GMT
#1902
Rayn cut it out. That is what you said.
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 25 2014 00:23 GMT
#1903
Although what rayn said the first quote was the correct version and i don't think it should say town at the end?
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 25 2014 00:26 GMT
#1905
Rayn read your fucking filter he hasn't changed anything.
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 25 2014 00:26 GMT
#1907
On July 25 2014 09:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 08:58 Koshi wrote:
Which one is it?

On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are scum.



On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are town.


town

Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 25 2014 00:34 GMT
#1915
On July 25 2014 09:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 09:26 Chopin Liszt wrote:
On July 25 2014 09:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 08:58 Koshi wrote:
Which one is it?

On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are scum.



On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are town.


town


I assumed he asked me if i think GB is town or scum. I might be bad at reading posts but FUCKING TELL ME WHAT I HAVE RESPONDED TO and not say "you said he is town and you said he is mfia blablanandnbsolfdå,ö"

fuck.- sio hard.
gn.


No you said unless all martyrs are scum. Koshi said should it be all martyrs are town. I don't know why he said that because that would flip around the start of your sentence too but he asked it nonetheless. Your replied that it should be town making it look like you typod the first one but then yelled at koshi for some reason that i don't understand either.
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 25 2014 00:36 GMT
#1918
Too much hate and bitchyness in threads lately.
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 25 2014 00:36 GMT
#1919
On July 25 2014 09:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 09:34 Chopin Liszt wrote:
On July 25 2014 09:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 09:26 Chopin Liszt wrote:
On July 25 2014 09:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 25 2014 08:58 Koshi wrote:
Which one is it?

On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are scum.



On July 25 2014 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GB is town unless all maryrs and shit are town.


town


I assumed he asked me if i think GB is town or scum. I might be bad at reading posts but FUCKING TELL ME WHAT I HAVE RESPONDED TO and not say "you said he is town and you said he is mfia blablanandnbsolfdå,ö"

fuck.- sio hard.
gn.


No you said unless all martyrs are scum. Koshi said should it be all martyrs are town. I don't know why he said that because that would flip around the start of your sentence too but he asked it nonetheless. Your replied that it should be town making it look like you typod the first one but then yelled at koshi for some reason that i don't understand either.

i don't even know what i said and idgaf. lynch me for it.
tomorrow.


..... I have no words
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 25 2014 01:00 GMT
#1923
On July 25 2014 09:42 Koshi wrote:
Why would it be:

GB is town except when all maryrs and shit are scum.

isn't this more logical

GB is town except when all maryrs and shit are town. (Because that would make it possible GB is scum)



Like... This discussion is completely retarded but rayn is scumreading me for saying it should be option 2. Maybe I don't understand the word unless or something.


He's saying gb is being a martyr which probably means he's town unless martyrs are usually scum (in which case he'd be scum)

That's why i asked rayn how gb was being a martyr.
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 25 2014 01:05 GMT
#1924
Urgghhhh anyway nothing has even happened past few pages and everyone disappeared so unless people are going to talk through points i brought up in regards to teemu or koshi then I'm going to sleep.
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 25 2014 10:09 GMT
#2009
I'm reading and i still don't see any real accusation for vivax being mafia despite you saying that people should be convinced.
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 25 2014 10:13 GMT
#2011
The pages I've missed have been horrible to read. A bunch of you are making this game quite unpleasant. Please stop.

My dear friends, there is evil among us,
But even knowing this, even thus
Outside this game, we are friends one and all
A mutual respect for this pursuit, let us not fall
into this animosity, this anger, this fuss


On July 25 2014 11:11 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
As you can see, I got home about 10 hours later. Now I don't know if rayn is being hyperbolic, but I think a twenty-minute adjustment is much easier than having to suspend the game for at least 9 hours (and possibly extend night another 24), and possibly more if there were any other problems at the end.

No. 20 minutes early is 100x worse than 10 hours late. Or just PM some random dude alignments on TL to put up nightpost.
On July 25 2014 08:05 Koshi wrote:
And how is nobody taking any responsibility or even analyzing this incredible shitty Navillus lynch?

There wasn't a case on Navillus except the one from Palmar that I fucking destroyed. Like how the fuck can Navillus get lynched out of fucking nowhere? I am traveling home and suddenly Navillus gets marv, Xatalos and Vivax on him. With fucking Kush & VA already on him. And then the fucking hosts decides that is the perfect time to give a 10 minute warning the game is over and 3 more retards vote Navillus without thinking twice. Like... There hasn't been a single case on Navillus since the one from Palmar that I destroyed but w.e let's lynch this guy. Even though he made a couple big posts since then that looked extremely town. Yeah wait, I already said he was 100% town. No need to repeat this shit for the shitters.

But the funny part is. I AM THE ONE GETTING THE MOST FLAK FROM SHITTERS LIKE VIVAX BECAUSE NAVILLUS FLIPPED TOWN. BECAUSE I DEFENDED NAVILLUS AND WAS RIGHT.


HOW THE LIVING FUCK?? HOW????


DID I MISS ALL THE FUCKING CASES ON NAVILLUS OR SOMETHING?


WHERE ARE THEY?

Nav got lynched because he was a last minute alternative to wagons that were worse. That's all.
On July 25 2014 16:16 Teemursu wrote:
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On July 25 2014 10:29 Chairman Ray wrote:
I don't understand why we lynched Navillus instead of Xatalos. Chopin, can you explain to me why you thought Xatalos was town all of a sudden?

CR, did Chopin answer this?

I was quite explicit why I said Xatalos was town. This is one of those inevitable cases where a bunch of people go "Oh Chopin, you handsome fellow, your logic is terrible, you're not supposed to be this bad! Sup?" and in the end I turn out to be right about it, as always. Maybe Vayne remembers Order mafia.

My main/only regret from the lynch is that i didn't convince people to switch to Obi rather than Navillus.

Chopin
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 25 2014 10:23 GMT
#2015
On July 25 2014 19:21 Vivax wrote:
Teemu ran away when I was trying to bring the argument to an objective level, since he just complained I didn't.

Did I do anything wrong?


Your only crime was caring too much.
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 25 2014 11:37 GMT
#2042
On July 25 2014 20:35 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 20:32 Xatalos wrote:
I think the fact that I easily gathered 5+ votes, same with Navillus, but it was impossible for ObiWan, might make it more likely that he's actually scum.


Assume for a moment that ObiWan can be town, too. Why would scum want to lynch him over Navi when either choice doesn't hurt them at all.

I'm reading along. Not exactly sure what you're asking here. Obiwan wagon came before Navillus and never got more than 3 votes, Navillus ended with 8.

Chopin
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