Team Melee Mini Mafia V: Newbies and Vets

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

July 16 2014 02:05 GMT

#2317

We are still lynching poofter. That was the most obvious bus in the history of all mafia that I've seen and I was yelling through my monitor that any of you actually believed poofter.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

July 16 2014 03:10 GMT

#2372

On July 16 2014 11:10 OnceKing wrote:
hf explain why its a bus

Did nobody notice how poofter started by not knowing anything that was happening at all in the game really?

His only reads were: Onceking probably mafia because he ganged up on poofter at the start (page 16 lol?) with eden when eden claimed VT which shows he actually has not been following the game whatsoever and then suddenly out of the blue his little read on Rayn being afk = mafia (despite rayn never posting past 2am the entirety of the game) became all caps let's lynch rayn omg let's murder him!

He is literally angry at eden for claiming VT at the start of the game which no towny in the history of any mafia game has ever done. He also says that eden's claim was stupid because it made marv die. This reeks of alignment knowledge because:

A) Eden claiming VT as mafia would have no effect on scum finding blues whatsoever so why is poofters initial reaction that it's bad? This would only happen if he knew Eden is town.

B) Why is it not just wifom to poofter but instead so rock solid that it has affected all his "reads" for the entire game (onceking, eden etc).

Anyway, what I was saying above re:rayn switch by poofter was pointed out by eden

On July 16 2014 09:06 Eden1892 wrote:

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Your teammate's been letting you die for most of the game in all likelihood, your slot's been under suspicion from the beginning. And the fact that you keep harping on rayn not being here makes the poof/rayn team theory (which has been around from before) more likely, not less.

Poofter has reeked of alignment knowledge on rayn the entirety of the deadline when he was fighting for his life. At first it was a little "yeh rayn isn't here that's super bad must be mafia" and then robik points out that he's never been here at this time whatsoever and poofter changes to "yeh, i've said that before! he's still mafia because he doesn't care about the lynch murder him omg!" and then when things start to get ugly and people aren't switching he starts bringing up things that don't make sense like how he's "on rayn" so it must be obvious that he's town ~_~ how boring.

In contrast this is what he had to say about rayn during the day:

On July 15 2014 11:57 Tehpoofter wrote:

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Answering for bunnies but because they have more respect for people that are veterans that might be able to peg and get him lynched based on old meta. With them gone it makes it easy for him to lead town... although based upon play today I lean more town on rayn cause he actually showed up.

Yet, when it comes down to it the rayn team is his lowest poe. In fact, the only teams he ever mentions and it never really changes as being scum is koshi/artanis and rayn/whoeverhispartnerwas. (which is mafia indicative because he doesn't rethink, hello pg.16 read 100 pages later). However, when it comes near deadline and robik posts reasons that rayn is not here then poofter still sticks to lynching rayn for... not being here when he never is instead of artanis/koshi when artanis was pushing a lynch onto a pr and then afk'd only to return at deadline. Simply put, if poofter died and flipped mafia rayn would be a very likely next lynch because of his inactivity and so the game would end. The theory here that poofter is adopted is to gain as much town cred as possible by switching his lynch onto another mafia. You could argue that switching it to a towny would be more beneficial but really when you think about it there are no other pairs that he would have got away with lynching with the little information he has from not reading the thread properly.

I wrote all this because it's what I think so do what you want. You don't have to lynch poofter tomorrow because we have a mislynch but I highly suggest you do. It's 4am so this really isn't written well but it was what i saw from when i asked to replace in till now.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

July 16 2014 03:16 GMT

#2376

When you break down what poofter has been saying in chronological order it's something like:

I am town but mislynching me and getting cop check is probably ok
DONT LYNCH ME OMG NO
OK is prob mafia with rayn because of pg.16 where eden claimed vt and OK ganged up on me with him
IM SO TOWN RIGHT NOW CAN YOU NOT SEE THE TOWNY THINGS THAT I HAVE BEEN DOING (0 towny things because there are no reads just appeals to emotion)
PEOPLE ON ME RIGHT NOW AREN'T BEING TOWN BECAUSE IM SO TOWN
Hey guys that have played with me before, this isn't what I did in X game with Y player and you were in it!
NO LYNCH RAYN BECAUSE HES NOT HERE
<--- Robik informs him that rayn is never here--->
LYNCH RAYN BECAUSE HE DOESNT CARE ABOUT THE LYNCH

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

July 16 2014 03:19 GMT

#2377

On July 16 2014 12:14 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Also, HF you are wrong. But hi

welcome to the game

You are still getting lynched regardless of if i'm wrong or not and I will literally not allow your pair to survive past tomorrow. If you are town that's hard luck because poofter has dragged you down by a lot. If that's the case I suggest you start posting why Koshi/Artanis or OK/sinani are mafia.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

July 16 2014 03:34 GMT

#2381

On July 16 2014 12:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:

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I will. I'll try and drop some knowledge bombs on you after I do my nightly routine and catch up.

I don't think poofter has dragged us down all too much, but if a junior must carry her senior and the rest of town to victory, then so be it.

Not allowing us to survive is a bit harsh, yeah?

It's not, your team is far too much of a liability. Poofters call out on rayn "not caring about the lynch" is really really too far flung from reality when rayn hadn't posted since 4pm and rayn's vote was on the person that poofter was voting for originally (haru etc) so when you actually look at it, poofter called out rayn for voting for someone that he wanted to get lynched today but when rayn wasn't around at all this made him so evidently scummy to poofter that he wanted him murdered/killed/lynched/eviscerated over someone like artanis/koshi who was actually around (artanis was) and posting and interacting with poofter but not really contributing much and not caring who got lynched. Yet, poofters overreaction to voting rayn was totally out of the blue and did not look like someone who had thought things through but instead someone who needed to make a play in dire times when their teammates had very little content or presence in the game.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

July 16 2014 03:35 GMT

#2382

There's also the fact that rayn was called "more towny" today by poofter and yet featured lowest on his poe reads of everyone in the game after not mentioning koshi really at all and then when push came to shove that more towny developed into what you saw at the deadline.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

July 16 2014 03:49 GMT

#2384

The only realistic pair that poofter could push other than rayn is artanis/koshi. If they flipped town you would most certainly be the next lynch and then rayn would fall very easily next because his investment is really low and would very easily be spotted after that long without caring. If you lynched rayn then your town cred would be very much higher and might actually allow you to survive lylo and win.

I don't know exactly when he started harping on rayn but it was very likely when haru claimed parity and I imagine it went full blast then because he needed that lynch to happen as the mislynches were running out.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

July 16 2014 03:50 GMT

#2385

When scum are put into a corner and there is like one possible mislynch left when 2 are needed then the only play they can pretty much make is to bus. In these circumstances it very much looked like one.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

July 16 2014 03:53 GMT

#2387

you

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

July 16 2014 03:56 GMT

#2389

Just read the thread instead ~_~

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

July 16 2014 03:57 GMT

#2390

The only other realistic pair would be koshi/artanis because artanis' appearance to lynch rayn at deadline was super sketchy.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

July 16 2014 03:57 GMT

#2392

and it most likely is them but I want to lynch the poofter pair because that appealing to emotion defence for 3 hours did my head in and was terrible

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

July 16 2014 04:05 GMT

#2393

Going through rayn's filter when he did his giant page by page thing he mentions OK is the towniest town that he'd never lynch. Which is increasingly likely to imply that OK is in fact town, regardless of that read OK has 12 pages of filter day 2 and I don't think I've seen him do that. Sinani also made this post that seemed very sincere about how he hasn't rolled scum since he started playing again. I like that pair.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

July 16 2014 04:50 GMT

#2400

tis cool we can lynch artanis/koshi first

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

July 16 2014 05:02 GMT

#2402

I love list posts... Can you give reasons for the positions of ppl you've stated instead of just the generic town/maybe town/mafia list?

I want actual reasons based on events throughout the game (ignore the claimers).

Also how come you agreed with what I've been saying about poofter (which would make him seem super scummy) but then you say how super town poofter actually is straight after that?

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

July 16 2014 05:18 GMT

#2408

On July 16 2014 13:50 Holyflare wrote:
tis cool we can lynch artanis/koshi first

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

July 16 2014 12:32 GMT

#2451

On July 16 2014 15:29 Koshi wrote:
Damn, rayn was scum. How fucked are we?

pretty much a scum claim bro

Holyflare