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On July 13 2014 04:39 Koshi wrote:
How would town Kosji enter the yhread bunnies? Why are you ignoring the other possibility in your meta case? I replaced 4 times as town. Go compare.
I think town Koshi would atleast be attempting to figure out the game instead of letting others figure it out for you.
Just because you replaced as town 4 times, doesn't mean you did it this time. And you definitely didn't do it in Normal Mini.
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On July 13 2014 04:19 OnceKing wrote:
bunnies, do you think slamroot is a mislynch?
i'm not discounting other wagons but you'll need to do a lot of work to show me why you think chairman koshi is a better lynch than slamroot. I got some pretty heavy townie vibes from CR before.
I do. I've seen Slam get mad as town when he was about to get mislynched. And it seems he is getting mad this game.
I've also never seen slam give up. He has fought to the death as town, so I admit, that slows me down a bit on my townread.
But I also see no one really defending them. Some have said "eh well, maybe they are town" and seem wishy washy.
Idk, to me it seems if they were mafia, why would their mafia scummate want them lynched day 1? Unless they really think they can win this game by themselves. I just don't see it.
What about CRs post seemed townie to you?
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And yes, I think having a second wagon is really good.
Me and Poof as a second wagon, really bad Haru.
I think Koshi/CR as a second wagon, or even the first wagon is better.
I don't think Palmer/Strat would be a good second wagon because on my scumread on Koshi/CR and they were going hard on each other basically, or atleast CR was on Strat.
Also, Where's Rayn/Slender or Mderg/Marv? I feel like it's been awhile since I've seen any of them.
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On July 13 2014 05:22 OnceKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2014 05:15 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 13 2014 04:19 OnceKing wrote:
bunnies, do you think slamroot is a mislynch?
i'm not discounting other wagons but you'll need to do a lot of work to show me why you think chairman koshi is a better lynch than slamroot. I got some pretty heavy townie vibes from CR before. I do. I've seen Slam get mad as town when he was about to get mislynched. And it seems he is getting mad this game. I've also never seen slam give up. He has fought to the death as town, so I admit, that slows me down a bit on my townread. But I also see no one really defending them. Some have said "eh well, maybe they are town" and seem wishy washy. Idk, to me it seems if they were mafia, why would their mafia scummate want them lynched day 1? Unless they really think they can win this game by themselves. I just don't see it. What about CRs post seemed townie to you? tbh i think its impossible for anyone to defend slamroot at this point. if you look at the way they're posting there's no way it can come from a town pov. I don't think him getting mad is indicative of anything -- if I'm about to get lynched I'll be mad about it regardless of my alignment. imo it's not a matter of wanting them to get lynched, it's the fact that they can't stop it. i could be wrong but i highly doubt it. I got a town read off of CR's entrance into the game. the first thing he did upon getting into the game was to antagonize someone. ... I dunno it's hard for me to explain. I guess I'll have to take a closer look, it's just that for the brief period of time I followed Order immediately upon reading CR's posts I was just like well im not reading this shit he's typing enormous blocks of text. And I haven't gotten the same feeling from him this game.
Idk, I just think that everyone is so tunneled on Slamroot, that they aren't even considering options outside of them.
That is what I am trying to explain to the thread. give them something to think about.
I admit, your read on CR isn't that bad.
But I don't know if his entering the thread was antagonized based. I quoted his first post into the thread in my case against him and Koshi.
Like I said, to me, it seemed more like he was just jumping on someone who already had a little bit of suspicion on them, not really bringing anything new to the table.
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On July 13 2014 05:44 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2014 05:38 Eden1892 wrote:On July 13 2014 05:36 IAmRobik wrote:On July 13 2014 03:40 Eden1892 wrote:
Robik where are you
Why is your vote not on Cabernet I was taking a nap and I'm studying. I haven't moved my vote yet, but I don't think it really matters at this moment. voting is a pain in the ass, and as long as the thread is going in the direction I want, I don't feel like I really have to push any agenda. My vote will end up on sqrt/slam by the end unless things change drastically, but I still think poof/bunnies look sketch. if it's going to end up there, you should go ahead and put it there now and change it later if needed Meh. no matter my alignment, I kinda hate voting and I hate being pressured into voting. I vote when I feel it's necessary to vote. I'm not like rallying people to a cause right now. I think people realize that slam/sqrt are mafia and everyone will be voting for them by the end of the day. Just to make mafia work for it, I'll say that mafia will end up on slam too (so if someone doesn't vote sqrt/slam by the end of the day, I'll think they're town------or will I?) And that's where I'm at. I've caught up. Got some studying to do. Won't be too active. ExO thinks that haru/bear are still suspicious. He also thinks slam/sqrt are scummy He also thinks that if Sqrt/slam aren't mafia, then OK is mafia -- a read I can get behind.
So what is your reasoning behind based on the vote of me and banks?
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On July 13 2014 05:47 IAmRobik wrote:
I cannot understand your sentence because of its atrocious grammar. Please try again.
Sorry, sometimes I type too fast my words blend.
What is the vote on me and poof based on?
Like, I don't see why you are voting us over other people who you find scummy?
And I specifically don't understand why Haru is sheeping you basically blindly.
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On July 13 2014 05:53 IAmRobik wrote:
Cause Haru is wise beyond words.
I'm voting you because:
1) you're trying to push scum on me incorrectly
2) banks isn't doing dick this game, and that's his scum meta
The reason to not vote you is that the point on Koshi/CR is kinda interesting and is what I was thinking...especially the koshi entrance. I thought that the CR one wasn't so bad, but it wasn't great either. He was really try-hard mafia in Order, but he was lackluster mafia in the small BH game. I'm gonna revisit that game and see how he entered/played
Do you see me anywhere near you right now?
I think not.
I rescinded off of you to push someone else. My scummy thing on you was to point out that the way you were reading me and banks was wrong.
Also, tbh, I'd probably vote off Banks too if he wasn't town with me. You should see me fussing at him in qt right now.
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Hey look. Banks is back!
Lol
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Banks, you officially suck.
Eden, why are you so sure on Slamroot?
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On July 13 2014 06:49 Eden1892 wrote:
ok with slenderman's superb vote switch the count is 5-2-1-1-1
the 2 wagon is fucking obvtown bunnies crew and has one person on it who's said he expects to end on the lead wagon so it's not even a counterwagon
great job team, if you're not on the slamroot wagon please explain why not
I explained my case on Koshi/CR and why I think Slamroot is town.
What do you think of my case?
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On July 13 2014 06:53 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2014 06:49 Eden1892 wrote:
ok with slenderman's superb vote switch the count is 5-2-1-1-1
the 2 wagon is fucking obvtown bunnies crew and has one person on it who's said he expects to end on the lead wagon so it's not even a counterwagon
great job team, if you're not on the slamroot wagon please explain why not You think bunnies is "fucking obvtown"?!?!? Oh jeez.
I'm totes obvtown.
You haven't really done anything to convince anyone otherwise.
I'm sure as hell doing a lot more than you or ExO so far.
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On July 13 2014 06:59 OnceKing wrote:
frankly i don't buy either the defense of slam or the case on chairman koshi
bunnies did you do as koshi asked and examine the games in which he's town and replaced in?
No, I suck at using the search bar to find things like that.
I only know of games we were in together.
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Look, I get that the whole Slamroot thing is bullshit. Like what they are doing is.
Poofter even thinks they should just be lynched off because they won't help the rest of the game in any way.
But I still think this is a mislynch.
Also, sure, my case is based mostly on meta.
But what has CR or Koshi done this game otherwise to convince you they are town?
I see koshi posting a bunch of one liners, and CR had his argument with Strat, but I didn't see much come out of that.
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On July 13 2014 06:59 TheSlenderMan wrote:
bunnies, where did you 'explain why slamroot is Town'? As for the CR/Koshi-case, no way I see a meta-case being stronger than slamroot's antics at this point. :D
Haru please (also) explain the questions I raised in my posts -- you can find them from my filter quite easily.
Look at the post above this question you asked. Eden quoted it.
It's mostly to do with the fact there's not really much a defense. Plus, slam as mafia wouldn't just give up imo.
Sqrt, eh. I read him wrong often, and have pushed mislynches on him cause he never evaluates on his reads unless asked specifically.
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Well while you people decide on a second wagon that doesn't include me and Poof, I'm going afk.
Anymore questions, you know what to do.
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Everyone is just "waiting and seeing".
No one is actually trying to do anything but me.
Bleh.
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Also, if Slamroot flips town, tell me, what information will we gain from it?
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On July 13 2014 07:08 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2014 07:05 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 13 2014 06:59 TheSlenderMan wrote:
bunnies, where did you 'explain why slamroot is Town'? As for the CR/Koshi-case, no way I see a meta-case being stronger than slamroot's antics at this point. :D
Haru please (also) explain the questions I raised in my posts -- you can find them from my filter quite easily. Look at the post above this question you asked. Eden quoted it. It's mostly to do with the fact there's not really much a defense. Plus, slam as mafia wouldn't just give up imo. Sqrt, eh. I read him wrong often, and have pushed mislynches on him cause he never evaluates on his reads unless asked specifically. ok but here's the thing. 1. slam giving up only helps him as mafia. i don't think slam would normally just give up as either alignment so we have to toss a meta read here, it doesn't fit his persona regardless. people have quoted him not giving up as town in other games. so the meta read is murky and i think it only makes sense to look at whose agenda it advances 2. sqrt was specifically asked and pointedly, repeatedly refused to elaborate, so it's more than just "oh well he never evaluates and that's his town meta" imo you're reading too much into meta to the detriment of the fundamentals
Without flips, meta isn't too bad to go off of right now, tho I do try not to use meta too often.
I don't see how slam giving up helps him as mafia though?
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Alo, Eden and OKs meta read on each other is a bit weird, tho I could see why that read would be made.
But they could still be mafia together.
Also, where are their other halves?
(Not that I can say anything, my other half is... who knows.... Lol)
Robik's been pushing scum on me for poofter being afk, but doesn't even mention the fact that sinani and GK have barely posted a thing. JS
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