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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 16 2014 15:13 GMT
#2589
Lmao I love eden
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 16 2014 15:26 GMT
#2602
On July 17 2014 00:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GlowingBear it looked like you made up stuff on the fly (Haru's comments on D1 didn't really help ^^) and you were insecure of giving "hard" reads. When i read your D1 posts, what i saw was "someone is scum because they act nice".....?!?!? Then you voted for me. Except that you should have also called Palmar scum because he made the same case i did. In fact Palmar should have been more scummy because he was "nice" (for not voting - which you later on called OTHER team out for).

Just try to be more confident. There is nothing scummy in being wrong. People are wrong as town all the time.


Thanks, Rayn! that "being nice" reasoning is the one I got from my last game. I guess it's a good way to find scum but it sucks as primary argument. This game was really a lesson.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 16 2014 15:36 GMT
#2610
From my newbie POV, this game pushed me to the limits because vets have a very conversational behaviour, it was really hard to keep up reading the chatting. It's hard because faking town for vets is really easy and their accusations are really difficult to avoid. So, this is a very good game for newbies. Also, with a veteran playing with you, they are much more engaged on the game and more helpful because they teach juniors specific topics, which I think is not very well discussed with coaches.

The downside is that it gets much more meta focused, and that's not good for newbies because that's just impression on someone vets are used to play. It does not make us evolve as a player, it only gives us experience regarding the vets. We evolve our "vets reading" but not evolve "game playing". I don't know if I am clear here...
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 16 2014 15:39 GMT
#2611
On July 17 2014 00:35 kitaman27 wrote:
@GlowingBear

Careful about discussing too much policy early on. You comment about the Kenpachi rule multiple times, scum hunting vs town hunting several times, and whatever the "chupazi rule" is. Scum players had the opportunity of attacking you for lacking a opinions. Your first read came late into the first day. I know it's tough to scum hunt early on, but try to provide opinions whenever you can to be a bit more transparent. In your first legitimate post, you identified four targets you were suspicious of, all of which were town. Maybe go back and reflect on what you misinterpreted there.

I also think you spent a bit too much effort defending yourself early on in the game, rather than providing content that could be used to lynch mafia. Explaining why you are town to a mafia slender doesn't accomplish much and by the time you finished, it seems like you didn't have time for anything else.

At one point, you share your mafia read on slender and later rayn. However, it took someone asking you about this first. If you have a mafia read, share it with the thread, explain your thought process, and follow through with it. If your case is being ignored, call specific indviduals out to evaluate your points and explain why they agree or disagree. I really liked how you guys swapped to rayn/slender at the end because he was your strongest read, rather than lynching poofter for the sake of the check. Obviously, you don't want to every claim parity cop if you don't have to since you don't know about a protective role. The mafia obviously played a role in pushing your lynch, but try to identify why certain townies were voting for you and what you could have done different earlier on.

Overall you played pretty well though. In most cases, effort is king and you did pretty well on that front.


Thank you, kita! Very insightful. I'm going to check my misinterpretations.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 16 2014 15:55 GMT
#2616
On July 17 2014 00:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2014 00:36 GlowingBear wrote:
From my newbie POV, this game pushed me to the limits because vets have a very conversational behaviour, it was really hard to keep up reading the chatting. It's hard because faking town for vets is really easy and their accusations are really difficult to avoid. So, this is a very good game for newbies. Also, with a veteran playing with you, they are much more engaged on the game and more helpful because they teach juniors specific topics, which I think is not very well discussed with coaches.

The downside is that it gets much more meta focused, and that's not good for newbies because that's just impression on someone vets are used to play. It does not make us evolve as a player, it only gives us experience regarding the vets. We evolve our "vets reading" but not evolve "game playing". I don't know if I am clear here...

I get your points and i think you are right.
Basically if you want to "learn" on what to look for and how to post or scumhunt on D1 you can shadow me in the Twitterverse Mini Mafia (in case Blazinghand allows that). You follow the game, we would have a QT and i tell you why i think someone is mafia and why i post what i do.

It doesn't even matter if i am town or mafia because i tend to post quite similarly on D1. Ignore robik because i do all of those things as both alignments and that's not really behavioural analysis.


I'd love to do that! I'm going to pm him.

@marv: thanks! I'm loving playing this game and I'll definetely play more. I'll wait for the next newbie game (I think I should play those 4 before jumping into vets games)
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 18 2014 17:25 GMT
#2700
Hey, apologises were made. It happens in a game where you have to take symmetrically opposing sides. Actually, little insults can be part of the game. It got Haru raged and it worked lol. No need to apologise to me, Haru, you were a great senior.

What I think that cannot happen is posting series of NSFAnything images on a game like this. I'm playing mafia, not surfing on /b/. Anyway slam, if you get this mad for a game and you have conditions, you shouldn't play it. It's not healthy for you. And for the message you dropped on the obs qt, I'd never joke about conditions. And I didn't.

You guys can't get me pissed for anything while in the game. The only thing that get me on my nerves is that kind of attitude.

But anyway slam, I loved the game you hosted and you were a great host. Know that I'm not writing this out of anger or towards you. I'm writing against that attitude. I am willing to play with you, I just don't want that kind of attitude anymore and for what people said you are not like that, never. So... I'm okay with it
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