• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 13:45
CET 19:45
KST 03:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1812Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises1Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I would like to say something about StarCraft What monitor do you use for playing Remastered? BW General Discussion (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mechabellum Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 12 Days of Starcraft Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1663 users

Team Melee Mini Mafia V: Newbies and Vets - Page 7

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 All
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 16 2014 15:13 GMT
#2589
Lmao I love eden
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 16 2014 15:26 GMT
#2602
On July 17 2014 00:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GlowingBear it looked like you made up stuff on the fly (Haru's comments on D1 didn't really help ^^) and you were insecure of giving "hard" reads. When i read your D1 posts, what i saw was "someone is scum because they act nice".....?!?!? Then you voted for me. Except that you should have also called Palmar scum because he made the same case i did. In fact Palmar should have been more scummy because he was "nice" (for not voting - which you later on called OTHER team out for).

Just try to be more confident. There is nothing scummy in being wrong. People are wrong as town all the time.


Thanks, Rayn! that "being nice" reasoning is the one I got from my last game. I guess it's a good way to find scum but it sucks as primary argument. This game was really a lesson.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 16 2014 15:36 GMT
#2610
From my newbie POV, this game pushed me to the limits because vets have a very conversational behaviour, it was really hard to keep up reading the chatting. It's hard because faking town for vets is really easy and their accusations are really difficult to avoid. So, this is a very good game for newbies. Also, with a veteran playing with you, they are much more engaged on the game and more helpful because they teach juniors specific topics, which I think is not very well discussed with coaches.

The downside is that it gets much more meta focused, and that's not good for newbies because that's just impression on someone vets are used to play. It does not make us evolve as a player, it only gives us experience regarding the vets. We evolve our "vets reading" but not evolve "game playing". I don't know if I am clear here...
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 16 2014 15:39 GMT
#2611
On July 17 2014 00:35 kitaman27 wrote:
@GlowingBear

Careful about discussing too much policy early on. You comment about the Kenpachi rule multiple times, scum hunting vs town hunting several times, and whatever the "chupazi rule" is. Scum players had the opportunity of attacking you for lacking a opinions. Your first read came late into the first day. I know it's tough to scum hunt early on, but try to provide opinions whenever you can to be a bit more transparent. In your first legitimate post, you identified four targets you were suspicious of, all of which were town. Maybe go back and reflect on what you misinterpreted there.

I also think you spent a bit too much effort defending yourself early on in the game, rather than providing content that could be used to lynch mafia. Explaining why you are town to a mafia slender doesn't accomplish much and by the time you finished, it seems like you didn't have time for anything else.

At one point, you share your mafia read on slender and later rayn. However, it took someone asking you about this first. If you have a mafia read, share it with the thread, explain your thought process, and follow through with it. If your case is being ignored, call specific indviduals out to evaluate your points and explain why they agree or disagree. I really liked how you guys swapped to rayn/slender at the end because he was your strongest read, rather than lynching poofter for the sake of the check. Obviously, you don't want to every claim parity cop if you don't have to since you don't know about a protective role. The mafia obviously played a role in pushing your lynch, but try to identify why certain townies were voting for you and what you could have done different earlier on.

Overall you played pretty well though. In most cases, effort is king and you did pretty well on that front.


Thank you, kita! Very insightful. I'm going to check my misinterpretations.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 16 2014 15:55 GMT
#2616
On July 17 2014 00:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2014 00:36 GlowingBear wrote:
From my newbie POV, this game pushed me to the limits because vets have a very conversational behaviour, it was really hard to keep up reading the chatting. It's hard because faking town for vets is really easy and their accusations are really difficult to avoid. So, this is a very good game for newbies. Also, with a veteran playing with you, they are much more engaged on the game and more helpful because they teach juniors specific topics, which I think is not very well discussed with coaches.

The downside is that it gets much more meta focused, and that's not good for newbies because that's just impression on someone vets are used to play. It does not make us evolve as a player, it only gives us experience regarding the vets. We evolve our "vets reading" but not evolve "game playing". I don't know if I am clear here...

I get your points and i think you are right.
Basically if you want to "learn" on what to look for and how to post or scumhunt on D1 you can shadow me in the Twitterverse Mini Mafia (in case Blazinghand allows that). You follow the game, we would have a QT and i tell you why i think someone is mafia and why i post what i do.

It doesn't even matter if i am town or mafia because i tend to post quite similarly on D1. Ignore robik because i do all of those things as both alignments and that's not really behavioural analysis.


I'd love to do that! I'm going to pm him.

@marv: thanks! I'm loving playing this game and I'll definetely play more. I'll wait for the next newbie game (I think I should play those 4 before jumping into vets games)
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 18 2014 17:25 GMT
#2700
Hey, apologises were made. It happens in a game where you have to take symmetrically opposing sides. Actually, little insults can be part of the game. It got Haru raged and it worked lol. No need to apologise to me, Haru, you were a great senior.

What I think that cannot happen is posting series of NSFAnything images on a game like this. I'm playing mafia, not surfing on /b/. Anyway slam, if you get this mad for a game and you have conditions, you shouldn't play it. It's not healthy for you. And for the message you dropped on the obs qt, I'd never joke about conditions. And I didn't.

You guys can't get me pissed for anything while in the game. The only thing that get me on my nerves is that kind of attitude.

But anyway slam, I loved the game you hosted and you were a great host. Know that I'm not writing this out of anger or towards you. I'm writing against that attitude. I am willing to play with you, I just don't want that kind of attitude anymore and for what people said you are not like that, never. So... I'm okay with it
I'm adorable.
Prev 1 5 6 7 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1d 18h
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 489
RotterdaM 424
BRAT_OK 63
JuggernautJason43
RushiSC 34
MindelVK 20
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 21330
EffOrt 674
ggaemo 237
Hyun 49
Aegong 48
PianO 39
Zeus 37
yabsab 27
SilentControl 4
Dota 2
LuMiX1
League of Legends
C9.Mang0180
Counter-Strike
fl0m999
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr68
Other Games
Grubby5279
Gorgc3132
FrodaN910
Beastyqt561
B2W.Neo299
ToD251
monkeys_forever143
DeMusliM134
IndyStarCraft 116
Mew2King103
Livibee83
QueenE75
NarutO 2
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 56
• HeavenSC 40
• naamasc237
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 38
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis2649
Other Games
• imaqtpie1080
• WagamamaTV331
• Shiphtur169
Upcoming Events
OSC
1d 18h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
OSC
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
2 days
OSC
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Patches Events
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-12-29
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W2
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.