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Wow they really conceded
Thanks for the game kita and glowing
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On July 16 2014 23:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2014 23:24 Eden1892 wrote:
Wow
Y'all know we caught rayn and artanis without pr right? I get that they helped out but it's not like we rode blue dix to victory like in Avatar
Well I guess they rode MY blue dick but that's different Well yeah, we're blaming rayn for going afk and you wouldn't have caught us so easily if poof got lynched over rayn.
It was all planned lol
Glwoingbear wanted to vote switch at the last 5 min to see what poofter and his lynchers would say, but ultimately backed out, so I did the vote switch instead
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GlowingBear
07-15-2014
09:24 PM ET (US)
I'm waiting until the very last moment to change my vote on Rayn, just so you know
Glowingbear top mvp
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On July 16 2014 23:55 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2014 23:47 Koshi wrote:On July 16 2014 23:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 16 2014 23:42 Koshi wrote:
Eden still town mvp No.. OnceKing. I donät even care what happened since i posted last time in the game but OK was definitely the town MVP. He looked so ridiculously town we could not even TRY to lynch sinani who was scummy as hell. pls gooby. Eden got you lynched. On his own. He is like Koshi jr. But he did it on a scum rayn. I only get town rayn lynched. I think I should stop making big posts. This clearly shows my cases were completely ignored. Btw, what is smashboard? And kita, can you give me tips on the way I've played this game?
I think you did quite well tbh. If you were alone, you won't be lynched.
But your problem comes when your other head is someone who 'tried to act scummy but became too scummy'. I dragged you down this game, sorry!
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Robik easiest townread NA
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On July 18 2014 23:18 Wile E. Coyote wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2014 22:45 Eden1892 wrote:Slam we didn't kill you because of a "single scum tell." We started pushing on you and sqrt because sqrt had a bad post that looked scummy. You and sqrt both responded by utterly refusing to cooperate with anybody the rest of the phase. Y'all gave reads that made no sense, didn't bother explaining them or arguing for them despite being asked and practically begged us to mislynch you to get credibility (in fact I'm fairly certain one of you actually said as much openly in the thread!). The same argument I made at the time applies: that type of play advances a scum agenda (by centering a lot of the attention in the game on your slot, and thereby acting as a smokescreen for your teammates), and doesn't advance a town agenda (deliberately mislynching is always anti-town). Pulling from what Blazinghand said at the end of Detention Mafia: On June 11 2014 05:36 Blazinghand wrote:
Whenever you lynch someone and they flip town, you have two options. You either say that you need to re-evaluate how you make scumreads, either in general or on this guy in particular, or you say that him flipping town is acceptable. There is no other option.
So, you can say, "given the way Palmar played, I will always lynch that kind of play, and I don't care if it hits town or not, this is a policy of mine." This way, the fact that he flipped town is irrelevant, you were lynching because you're trying to deter that kind of play, or because 90% of the time it's right and this one is just in the 10%, and it's impossible to refine your reads on that 10% of failures. You're willing to lynch town, and you will use this heuristic KNOWING it will lynch town.
Or, you can say "i need to refine my heuristic. It was acceptable before, or it was acceptable in other formats of this game, or other, related games, but it didn't work this time. What can I do to be better?" This way, next time this happens you know how to identify town. Now, maybe this is perfectly fakeable by scum so you end up doing the same thing, but you are at least open to becoming better/smarter.
What's not an acceptable option is to blame Palmar for flipping town, and claim your heuristic is good because it catches scum. The fact of the matter is, whatever you did lynched a townie. You either have to admit that lynching townies sometimes is part of the plan, or you have to come up with a new plan. Maybe Palmar is an idiot and there's no way to avoid lynching him when he's town; if that's the case, say that. The heuristics that I used in lynching your slot -- "scum are significantly more likely to make posts like the one sqrt did that I called out" and "scum are significantly more likely to react in a nonconstructive way and spam the thread like Slam did" and "scum are significantly more likely to throw out reads under fire that don't make sense and refuse to explain them, like both players did" -- are, in my experience, right much more than they are wrong. I am comfortable with the success rate of my lynches and don't see a realistic option to improve them. Sometimes they're wrong and I lynch a townie anyway. Shit happens. I'm sorry you ended up on the wrong end of the noose this go-round, but I stand by the process I used in lynching you, even though in this circumstance it didn't end in the way either of us wanted it to end. It actually was one thing but you kept asking loaded questions. Loaded questions aren't scum hunting my friend.
but you both did not answer a single one of them.
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On July 18 2014 23:26 Wile E. Coyote wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 08:27 Alakaslam wrote:
HIJOLE I said don't post if you aren't sure; that is what happened
Was unsure but wanted to point out train of thought
Ppl you must understand eventually we who WIFOM ourselves learn the bamcis way of Rayn. We read based off current events and post a lot when we are here.
Fortunately work was moved to tomorrow so IAM here You all tell me what else there was to say. And I said more!
You noticed you followed the way of the same person who got you lynched d1, right?
hue
2 short posts vs tons of questions, that sqrt refuses to answer when we were nearly 50% scum on both of you doesn't bode well
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On July 18 2014 23:28 Wile E. Coyote wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 08:30 Eden1892 wrote:
No one is WIFOMing themselves
You look like a tasty lunch Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 08:30 Eden1892 wrote:
Is the scum qt too cluttered to coach sqrt there Slam? Neither of these actually addresses why what I said was impossible; they are dismissals and aggravating ones
I got pissed with eden this game too. You're not alone
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On July 16 2014 08:23 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2014 08:15 Eden1892 wrote:On July 16 2014 07:58 IAmRobik wrote:
I laid out earlier EXACTLY what is going to happen. Banks is going to afk until the very end. He's either gonna give a shit defense cause he's town and convince me that he's town but not convince anyone else, or he's going to give the best defense, just like he did in world cup and then no one is gonna want to lynch him.
He started out with the former, which made me think, jeez, maybe it's a bad lynch, but now that he's come in with full guns blazing he's like 1000000000% mafia and everyone switching off of him is drinking cool aid straight out of his lying butthole. On July 16 2014 08:07 HaruRH wrote:
Right, so since we're getting lynched anyway, here's some tips for you newbie towns:
1) robik is town and anyone who says you lynch robik is scum.
2) scum is obviously poof/rayn. Both of these jerks made their case and are now conveniently gone.
3) this lynch is scum driven. Go find scum by yourself you lazy fucks Both of you are fucking terrible at this game and will never become good at this game until you realize that it doesn't matter whether or not you're right, but whether or not you're convincing. Have y'all never had to convince somebody of something n your lives? Do you think just screaming from the mountaintops that you think X thing is gonna happen is going to convince me or anyone else you need to convince? I'm not convinced by brute force of will, and that's all either of you seem to have for me. Granted, you don't have to convince me, you can theoretically get the lynch you want even if I'm wrong and both scum are on the wagon with me -- but that means you have to convince everyone else... and judging from the reactions you're getting, you're not doing that either. Robik, if you want me to switch to poofybunnies, make a case for it that isn't "poofter is being convincing in defending himself so he's scum." That is terrible logic and it's not something I'm going to switch for. Haru, if you want me to switch to poofybunnies, calm the fuck down and actually back up anything you're saying. This whole game you've done nothing but spout off angry, self-assured declarations that don't appear to be rooted in any facts whatsoever and browbeaten anyone who doesn't immediately see The One True Path. Your game is like a pissant 12-year-old and makes me want to lynch you by default. If you don't want to get lynched, make a case. Why poofybunnies? Why rayn? How is it obvious? This last one's especially important because I would think the one thing every townie is thinking right now is "damn, this is a tough lynch." This game has been difficult. Calling it obvious makes me think you've got some information I don't, because you're scum. AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH THATS IT I GIVE UP, SORRY GLOWINGBEAR + Show Spoiler +
Robik/town if you're reading this, tell eden that he is the most blind fuck I have seen.
I hope you guys feel good lynching your parity cop. Eden will be using the 'Nah they were bad so their lynch can be written off'and then town is fucked.
Now to you all who will actually read because you're town: we played like this because 1) we dont want to be nked 2) I dont see the need to actually scumhunt when our parity can find real scum. We wanted to use nb as our comparison. But some fucks spoiled the plan so oh well.
Read this part only when we flip parity cop:
1) rayn and pooft is scum.
2) robik is town. We are giving him all the towncreds for defending us.
3) eden is retarded
Btw I will never forget eden did this shit to me and glowing
literally never will I forgive him.
Too much.
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On July 16 2014 08:36 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2014 08:35 HaruRH wrote:On July 16 2014 08:31 Eden1892 wrote:
Haru, you're sure rayn is mafia yeah?
Get on this wagon with me I am ignoring you for the rest of this game You pissed me off to the extent I claimed. I am done talking to you Don't be an idiot, tell me what lynch works best with your scan strategy.
On July 16 2014 08:31 Eden1892 wrote:
Haru, you're sure rayn is mafia yeah?
Get on this wagon with me
And he tried to buddy me literally a few posts after insulting me to the degree where I refuse to play in the same game as him. I really cannot forgive him for doing this. I won't be playing any games with eden, ever.
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And I nearly snarled at glowingbear when eden pissed me off so bad.
I got so mad I couldn't think and claimed.
Nearly ruined the game for glowingbear.
Haru
07-15-2014
07:27 PM ET (US)
Im not in the mood to convince anyone, especially eden now
Take it that I failed you
Exactly what I wrote to glowingbear. I nearly gave up. I still feel sorry for doing it, even though we won because of it. but still, if things did not turn out like that, we would have been done for. Because someone antagonised me to claim out of anger. Sorry glowingbear. I'll try to make it up, I promise. not a good show for you on how to play mafia properly  I FAILED AS A SEMI SENIOR
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'Both of you are fucking terrible at this game and will never become good at this game'
This shit still rings in my head and I really don't want a repeat of such a game. By the way, it is a play I decided to make, not me being terrible at this game. So seeing this comment just made me rage. I didn't bother reading through the whole thing at that time.
'you were entirely unconvincing when you spent the whole game getting mad at people who disagreed with you and yelling at them like that was going to change their minds.'
Like I said, this was a play I chose to do. I never regretted doing this. I had to balance out glowingbear's interaction with the game - if I also interacted with the game, I am 100% sure we would be nk'ed n2. Therefore, I had to act retarded and try to smoke past d2, looking as bad as a nk as possible.
but.
you know what happened.
I just hope you realise everyone is smart enough in these mafia games to know what to do. Nobody is bullshitting for no reason - they have their own reasons. You don't just chalk everything up as 'bad play' and show them face.
I will see your future games and how you interact with others before deciding if I would like to play another game with you, but for now, to avoid me blowing myself out at d1 arguing with you in other games, I want to avoid playing any games with you. Also remember that you cannot regret doing something since it is already done.
'You certainly dished it back before and after I made my comment. I've chalked them up to heat-of-the-moment angry insults you didn't actually mean'
The insults aimed at you this game was made because you did the exact same to me and I raged. It wasn't heat of the moment.
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On July 19 2014 00:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 00:31 HaruRH wrote:
'Both of you are fucking terrible at this game and will never become good at this game'
This shit still rings in my head and I really don't want a repeat of such a game. By the way, it is a play I decided to make, not me being terrible at this game. So seeing this comment just made me rage. I didn't bother reading through the whole thing at that time.
'you were entirely unconvincing when you spent the whole game getting mad at people who disagreed with you and yelling at them like that was going to change their minds.'
Like I said, this was a play I chose to do. I never regretted doing this. I had to balance out glowingbear's interaction with the game - if I also interacted with the game, I am 100% sure we would be nk'ed n2. Therefore, I had to act retarded and try to smoke past d2, looking as bad as a nk as possible.
but.
you know what happened.
I just hope you realise everyone is smart enough in these mafia games to know what to do. Nobody is bullshitting for no reason - they have their own reasons. You don't just chalk everything up as 'bad play' and show them face.
I will see your future games and how you interact with others before deciding if I would like to play another game with you, but for now, to avoid me blowing myself out at d1 arguing with you in other games, I want to avoid playing any games with you. Also remember that you cannot regret doing something since it is already done.
'You certainly dished it back before and after I made my comment. I've chalked them up to heat-of-the-moment angry insults you didn't actually mean'
The insults aimed at you this game was made because you did the exact same to me and I raged. It wasn't heat of the moment. The bolded part is not really the way to play Haru. If you/GB looked town the would have been even more easier for the town.  If people who are town look town it doesn't matter who get's NK'd and scum have no room to hide. It's really easy. I mean that scum can't literally win the game whatever they do..
you're not the first to say this :'The bolded part is not really the way to play Haru.' they literally say this to me every game lol. hhehehe
'I regret using as strong language as I used to make my point'
I was replying to this.
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On July 19 2014 01:42 Holyflare wrote:
It's no coincidence that when i joined the game mafia conceded.
Weren't they just scared of my killer whale?
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