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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 06:14 GMT
#1021
tell me the difference between witch hunting and scum hunting and why i am doing one but not the other please
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 06:38 GMT
#1032
fantastic slam. now please tell me what you have done in your favor that would make you town.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 16:22 GMT
#1140
Phone posting before I get to a computer
First idk about slam but I know in the newbie with robik myself and sqrt when we mislynched sqrt he fought to the very end from the lynch I've just never seen town roll over and die like this
second me Eden scum team is crazy/idiotic lol
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 16:41 GMT
#1144
On July 13 2014 01:20 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, I'm back.
I have one read I'm pretty darn sure on.
Robik + ExO's mafia.
Wow, it's so obvious now.
Here's what you need to do.
Assume that they're mafia.
Now look at their posts.
They make complete sense if they're mafia. They fit perfectly together if they're mafia.
Done.

see look it's posts like this that make me so convinced
they just say things like they're true and don't back them up or explain how or why. and sometimes what they say is completely false.
this isn't the only instance.
+ Show Spoiler [wall of quotes lol] +
On July 12 2014 01:16 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 00:57 IAmRobik wrote:
TOWNIEST POST IN THE MOTHA FUCKIN THREAD. THIS GUY IS SO FUCKING BRUTALLY TOWN. IF ANYONE VOTES TO LYNCH HIM, YOU WILL FACE MY WRATH

On July 12 2014 00:54 ExO_ wrote:
Some thoughts:

Team D-

I tend to have weird hours that I can be on, and I'm not just reading the TL forums 24/7, so while I can't always be as active as robik saying I'm not doing anything now isn't really giving me a fair shake in my opinion (@27ninjabunnies).

Every game I've seen 27nb in she goes around being very caustic and arrogant towards some people, and very nice to others. It seems to be regardless of her alignment. I find it to be unhelpful, as she goes off on tangents with wild accusations filled with bullshit reasoning for scum reads.

What this means in terms of the game is it's hard for me to read her as mafia or town. But I think she does more to cause problems in a town, than actually help with finding scum and uniting the town players.

Poofter isn't saying much and is kinda letting her get out in front. I don't know how to interpret that, but in World Cup poofter stayed kinda quiet until it came time to push me in the wrong directions. Nearly worked too .

So a null read on the team but I generally think constantly creating a toxic atmosphere for the town is a bad thing even if they are town.

Team Whine
Slam is posting a fuck ton of 1 liners/pictures/general nonsense (hijole?) and sqrtofneg1 is saying nothing at all. In larger games I think mafia lurking works better than in a smaller game such as this, but it's almost nothing to read off of. Will have to wait to see what they vote day 1 and what happens night 1 to really know what to think of them.

Team VendettaStrada
I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing.

Team needs a lawyer
I always kinda read HaruRH scummy, he has a little bit of omgus going on, but I miss read him in world cup so it gives me pause. So I look over at glowing bear, and he hasn't said a whole lot either. Just got caught up in the Kenpachi business. But doesn't really read town to me. I lean scum here, but I'm hesitant.

Team Magic Carpet
Not a lot of posts from straightform just asking questions "Robik why won't u post?, Why would exo/robik not posting Day 1 not be bad for town" etc... Palmar calls out team lawyer for not posting anything of value, but I see very little of value from him at all. After reading his filter i think Palmar is the most scummy looking person so far in the thread.
*scum read*

Team GoodCornBadCorn
Completely afk. Like 1 combined other than their /in posts. like what....? Do they not know the game is happening? No reads yet for obvious reasons

Team Crotch Rocket
Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though

Team Fraud walRus
Sinani saying hardly anything, OnceKing's vote on our team I think is bad: it's based on robik not playing the game, when robik has been pretty active. Hasn't really expanded on any reads and got pretty caught up in ol' kenpachi but I don't get a scum vibe from him. Null read

Team M squared
mderg hasn't said too much, but I've generally liked and agreed with what marv has to say. I think Town


So that leaves me with

Town
M squared
Vendetta Strata (aka how can I make a parody of that team name)
Rocket Crotch


Null
D-
Whine*
Goodcornbadcorn*
Fraud walRus

Scum
Lawyer
Magic Carpet

*Mostly afk


Unfortunately, I think I shall cast some doubt on this post.
Some of these town reads are kind of fishy.
Ex:
Show nested quote +

Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though
Not my cup of tea.
Or this one
Show nested quote +

I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing.

I'm not so sure he's town. But the post is definitely the best post so far. But some of these reads seem fabricated.
[grapes]

On July 12 2014 01:27 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Tehpoofter hasn't done much. No read on him.
Bunnies, however, has talked alot. A lot lot.
Bunnies isn't as helpful as in other games, to the best of my memory. She's not questioning anything, not pushing people, I don't like it.
But I don't think we should lynch them because you usually don't lynch the most outspoken player, even if they're not posting all that useful stuff.

Bunnies, any particular reason for not scumhunting?
[grapes]

On July 12 2014 01:31 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I do not like palmar. (this seems to be a trend)
He hasn't /confirmed yet.
First post:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 04:25 Palmar wrote:
Hi I am Pálmar

And then does nothing for a significant amount of time.
Also this is not the palmar I saw when I played him. He was more analytical, more smart that game. This game, not so much.

Stratiform, I don't have a clue.
But this is my best read so far. They're mafia.

##Vote: Team Magic Computer
[grapes]

On July 12 2014 01:39 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 21:13 sinani206 wrote:
hey palmar.

what do you think of robik.

Why does sinani call out palmar in particular? Why hasn't he done anything yet?

OK is better, but not by much. He also asks others of what they think of robik too.
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 14:57 OnceKing wrote:
So based on what he's said thus far what think you of robik


I'm not sure what to make of this team. I wouldn't mind lynching them.

*insert grape picture here*

On July 12 2014 04:02 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 03:57 goodkarma wrote:
On July 12 2014 01:39 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On July 11 2014 21:13 sinani206 wrote:
hey palmar.

what do you think of robik.

Why does sinani call out palmar in particular? Why hasn't he done anything yet?

OK is better, but not by much. He also asks others of what they think of robik too.
On July 11 2014 14:57 OnceKing wrote:
So based on what he's said thus far what think you of robik


I'm not sure what to make of this team. I wouldn't mind lynching them.

*insert grape picture here*


Care to elaborate a bit on this? Asking questions and determining others' stances/reads is part of the game. And they have shared reads of their own. You say you wouldn't mind lynching them, yet you say you don't have much of a read on their alignment.

I don't.
But I wouldn't mind lynching them, because at that time, sinani had done practically nothing, and OK wasn't doing much either.
Sinani's question struck me as strange.
And I noticed that they both asked about robik.

On July 12 2014 07:09 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 06:48 OnceKing wrote:
from sqrt's post that eden quoted:

I'm not so sure he's town. But the post is definitely the best post so far. But some of these reads seem fabricated.


hahahahaha

It's the best because it gave me the most information.
It gave me the most information because some of the reads seem fabricated.

On July 12 2014 08:14 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 08:12 OnceKing wrote:
sqrt if you have absolutely no idea who is scum how do you know to vote for Team Fakeclaim

- FRU

RNG

On July 12 2014 10:33 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, 30 minutes till we die.
I'm not sure, but I wouldn't have Robik+ExO as a top town team.
Keep an eye on OK and Eden.

On July 13 2014 01:20 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, I'm back.
I have one read I'm pretty darn sure on.
Robik + ExO's mafia.
Wow, it's so obvious now.
Here's what you need to do.
Assume that they're mafia.
Now look at their posts.
They make complete sense if they're mafia. They fit perfectly together if they're mafia.
Done.

On July 12 2014 08:27 Alakaslam wrote:
HIJOLE I said don't post if you aren't sure; that is what happened

Was unsure but wanted to point out train of thought

Ppl you must understand eventually we who WIFOM ourselves learn the bamcis way of Rayn. We read based off current events and post a lot when we are here.

Fortunately work was moved to tomorrow so IAM here

On July 12 2014 08:42 Alakaslam wrote:
You should think about this statement

Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 08:30 Eden1892 wrote:
Is the scum qt too cluttered to coach sqrt there Slam?


And tell me why we are now confirmed town or else you can lynch lurkers before us and get a guaranteed win.

Otherwise I will point it out & u look phoolish

On July 12 2014 09:06 Alakaslam wrote:
Both links are the same bull

It is sqrt wifoming himself aloud like i do in my head, I do the same thing in my first newbie and second and third

Then hurricane sponge and I learned the way of HIJOLE, followed by Chezinu and CHUPAZI

On July 12 2014 10:22 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 10:15 OnceKing wrote:
if you are town you should be helping us get our shit together and convincing me not to vote you
you have now withheld judgment on eden and myself because we are on different teams. why?
your vote is currently on robik's team. why?
who do you think is mafia? why?

This is what is told to every mislynch by his tunnel- go read my link and learn how to cuss!

On July 12 2014 15:10 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 15:07 OnceKing wrote:
slender: yup! i more or less buy it. waiting on harubear response

slam: want to answer the questions i asked you earlier now?

Hell fucking no I have nothing but acid and jackassery for this town.

Look at my re-entrance to this thread in the 40's and if your answers to how I was treated and my corresponding attitude aren't there well you don't want to determine alignments you just want to witch hunt- what we call "scum hunting" here but really isn't, because actually determining alignment is far more important than trying to decide on some lynch.

On July 13 2014 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 00:53 Koshi wrote:
When is the lynch? It's long right?

Idgaf you are all so blind and tunneled it is poimtless and has been once my actual content was ignored
[/i][/i]

like seriously you can't just insist that links are "bullshit" and "witchhunting" without explaining how, you can't just say "oh it takes half a brain to realize he's scum" without explaining why and sqrt contradicting himself multiple times is handwaved with "sqrt is wifoming himself".
it's just a bunch of buzzwords and you never get an explanation for anything specific, even though i asked multiple times.

also note this which i just pulled out of sqrt's filter while scrolling down:
On July 12 2014 04:49 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 04:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:44 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:43 OnceKing wrote:
except for the part where i'm not lurking and your assertion that i wasn't doing much is completely ~Fraudulent~

also both of us asking about robik means... what exactly? that we want to know about robik? god forbid

That maybe you're mafia, and you wanna kill him.

Why are you viewing robik as town?

Also, what do you think of ExOs reads?

If I'm not mistaken you said you didn't like them, and said they seemed fabricated.

Robik is crazy. He might be town.

And yep.

how the fuck do you think ExO is fabricating reads, and then call the slot town. PLEASE TELL ME.
as also noted by eden's post counting upthread they had somewhere in the neighborhood of a hundred posts this game and yet haven't said anything helpful.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 17:39 GMT
#1158
On July 13 2014 02:35 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Glowingbear's team town.
M&M town.
Robik/exo scum.
The other scum is probably either palmar's team or eden's team.

j u s t i f y
y o u r
r e s p o n s e
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 18:00 GMT
#1172
if eden is mafia then you should explain to me, who is town by your own admission, why
you should also explain why harubear is town to me, who is town
you should ALSO explain why robik and exo are scum to me, who is town
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 18:03 GMT
#1175
On July 13 2014 03:00 OnceKing wrote:
if eden is mafia then you should explain to me, who is town by your own admission, why
you should also explain why harubear is town to me, who is town
you should ALSO explain why robik and exo are scum to me, who is town

"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 18:07 GMT
#1178
On July 13 2014 03:03 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 03:00 OnceKing wrote:
if eden is mafia then you should explain to me, who is town by your own admission, why
you should also explain why harubear is town to me, who is town
you should ALSO explain why robik and exo are scum to me, who is town

Figure it out yourself. If you're town.

do you think i'm town?
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 18:35 GMT
#1198
On July 13 2014 03:28 HaruRH wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Team TheD

haru pls explain
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 19:19 GMT
#1213
bunnies, do you think slamroot is a mislynch?
i'm not discounting other wagons but you'll need to do a lot of work to show me why you think chairman koshi is a better lynch than slamroot. I got some pretty heavy townie vibes from CR before.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 20:16 GMT
#1219
but didn't Koshi enter the thread with reads lol
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 20:22 GMT
#1221
On July 13 2014 05:15 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 04:19 OnceKing wrote:
bunnies, do you think slamroot is a mislynch?
i'm not discounting other wagons but you'll need to do a lot of work to show me why you think chairman koshi is a better lynch than slamroot. I got some pretty heavy townie vibes from CR before.


I do. I've seen Slam get mad as town when he was about to get mislynched. And it seems he is getting mad this game.

I've also never seen slam give up. He has fought to the death as town, so I admit, that slows me down a bit on my townread.

But I also see no one really defending them. Some have said "eh well, maybe they are town" and seem wishy washy.

Idk, to me it seems if they were mafia, why would their mafia scummate want them lynched day 1? Unless they really think they can win this game by themselves. I just don't see it.

What about CRs post seemed townie to you?

tbh i think its impossible for anyone to defend slamroot at this point. if you look at the way they're posting there's no way it can come from a town pov. I don't think him getting mad is indicative of anything -- if I'm about to get lynched I'll be mad about it regardless of my alignment.

imo it's not a matter of wanting them to get lynched, it's the fact that they can't stop it.

i could be wrong but i highly doubt it.

I got a town read off of CR's entrance into the game. the first thing he did upon getting into the game was to antagonize someone.
... I dunno it's hard for me to explain. I guess I'll have to take a closer look, it's just that for the brief period of time I followed Order immediately upon reading CR's posts I was just like well im not reading this shit he's typing enormous blocks of text. And I haven't gotten the same feeling from him this game.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 21:02 GMT
#1239
what makes you think i'm mafia if slamroot is town
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 21:13 GMT
#1250
except for the part where i was on sqrt before either of you
and except for the part where eden followed me off of bunnies and onto you

but anyway that's not the point
eden is certainly town and i'm sure he'll say the same about me. we know each other in person, and the only times we're on the same wavelength like this is when we're both town. look and see how many times we've xposted each other with similar/same thoughts.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 21:19 GMT
#1252
slamroot is like almost 100% mafia
can you point out any meaningful content that either of them has said
the closest they come to it is spouting unjustified reads like "eden is mafia, exo is mafia" and they won't answer questions as to why. and yet even though they believe in an edenkarma/iamexo scumteam they don't think i'm town? there are too many inconsistencies.

in fact they have so many posts and yet have practically said nothing and just invite people into meaningless exchanges.
the only reason why people are scared to lynch them right now is because "ohhh well its slam so i dont think its that scummy" or "b-b-but people aren't defending them" -- stop that. if you're mafia with these guys the way they're acting do you actually think you can defend them? and slam has been acting scummy even compared to his usual standard as noted by robik earlier with meta references.

there's just no way they can be town with the whole "i give up, nobody listens to my scumreads even though i haven't justified them, this is a mislynch" stuff.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 21:20 GMT
#1253
On July 13 2014 06:14 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 06:13 OnceKing wrote:
except for the part where i was on sqrt before either of you
and except for the part where eden followed me off of bunnies and onto you

but anyway that's not the point
eden is certainly town and i'm sure he'll say the same about me. we know each other in person, and the only times we're on the same wavelength like this is when we're both town. look and see how many times we've xposted each other with similar/same thoughts.

Except that game where he was town and you were mafia with me and he kept calling you town

we weren't on the same wavelength/didn't have corresponding thoughts that game. look how much we disagreed or had different positions that game and the timings compared to this game.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 21:59 GMT
#1264
frankly i don't buy either the defense of slam or the case on chairman koshi
bunnies did you do as koshi asked and examine the games in which he's town and replaced in?
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 22:08 GMT
#1274
On July 13 2014 07:05 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 06:59 TheSlenderMan wrote:
bunnies, where did you 'explain why slamroot is Town'? As for the CR/Koshi-case, no way I see a meta-case being stronger than slamroot's antics at this point. :D

Haru please (also) explain the questions I raised in my posts -- you can find them from my filter quite easily.


Look at the post above this question you asked. Eden quoted it.

It's mostly to do with the fact there's not really much a defense. Plus, slam as mafia wouldn't just give up imo.

Sqrt, eh. I read him wrong often, and have pushed mislynches on him cause he never evaluates on his reads unless asked specifically.

i have asked sqrt and slam BOTH to justify their reads and they've both flat out refused. in what way do you think scum partners of slamroot could possibly defend them?
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 22:10 GMT
#1281
On July 13 2014 07:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Also, if Slamroot flips town, tell me, what information will we gain from it?

honestly? i have no idea
i'd just do normal looking at vote counts and stuff.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 12 2014 22:14 GMT
#1284
Sqrt says Eden and robik are scum
Slam Says Eden and I are scum phone posting again cuz my computer turned itself off
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
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