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On July 16 2014 07:44 OnceKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2014 07:37 HaruRH wrote:On July 16 2014 07:30 OnceKing wrote:
like when I play scum I want to be a model fuckin' townie. I wanna be aggressive, confident and look at all this good stuff I'm doing here, look at my nice cases, I'm contributing so much.
I know this game isn't that easy to be able to be acting that this way. I'm town, I'm waffling so much I've got eggos spilling out of my ass and even Eden who is one of the most self-assured people I know has flip flopped on his opinions a few times.
Literally everyone looks unsure of everyone and everything, I was completely thrown off by slamroot flipping town -- I know this was like FOREVER ago but I was just SO GODDAMNED SURE they had to be scum. Then marvderg and palmiform went and died too -- as far as I'm understanding the only reason why people are saying that implicates rayn is because "older players will fear older players". If that's the case then why doesn't it say anything about Koshi.
I find it far simpler and more likely that marvderg and palmiform were both looking at Harubear pretty funny so they died for it. Them being vets and therefore persuasive players probably helped too. I know people look at this kind of thing and go "oh its night kill analysis, its wifom" but I personally never see a scumteam waver to kill someone they know will be trying to completely murder them the next day. You guys know nuts about my scum play lol. I only like being scum, not being this useless town I am. I literally will go hells blazin' for my scum play. I hate being useless as scum. If you guys seriously think we are scum, then you're all fucking wrong. Put your vote back on poofter/nb. I don't believe a few paragraphs of reads can change all your reads. Artanis, ever heard of this term 'time zone'? Its 6am where I am now. I replied to you at 5am, then went back to 'sleep'. I'm not talking about your scum play. I don't even pretend to know your scum play. All I know is that the posts I remember from you are a million words on Rayn and a something on Koshi that doesn't make sense. And trying to let gb take the reins and then you stepping up to clean up his shit which you not only never mentioned before or hinted at at all but failed to do because those were the first posts that made me look at your team funny. And those paragraphs can definitely change my mind. I've been on the fence the whole day, that shit was so townie it made something click in my mind. It's almost as if you haven't even read my post because I'm not talking about your scum game there, I'm talking about glowingbear's distinctive not-his-town game. Also it didn't change "all of my reads"
I thought that the winning turn on that game was that I started to filter dive like hell and get reads on people. Check my read on templar. I thought I should do the same here.
If you check poof's filter on that game, he is much more aggressive when town. This is his first hard push, only when he gets close to being lynched. Completely different meta.
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On July 16 2014 07:51 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2014 07:49 IAmRobik wrote:
Sigh, Banks coming in strong to convince everyone he's town when he's scum LOL. I pretty much foresaw this happening.
gg town loses. Let's just send in our concession to Kita now Yea lets do it Fuck this. If town even wins ill be so fucking amazed.
People just need to realize how suspicious that hard push was. I ask him a question, he says a lot from everyone, then BOOM votes on us. His FIRST hard push. NEAR EoD. His FIRST try to contribute.
I was fishing for it and fishing for someone to support him so he could get out of the mislynch. It worked. But also with townies.
Summary of poof play this game: "I can't post much. ; I can't post now ; We are town! LOL ; Alright, brb! ; GBHARU MAFIA GET THEM"
He brings marv to support his attack (lol set-up strategy anyone?), he sees the opportunity of getting out of the lynch, and someone blindly follows him. People, COME ON!
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On July 16 2014 07:56 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2014 07:31 Tehpoofter wrote:
GB what do you think about robik being afk as fuck? GB, what do you think of Robik driving home from work
TBH you're the hugest question mark to me in this game. I read you as town, but when you start to shit meaningless posts I get back on my reads.
You have a strong townread on me. Why? Are you considering telling why to help town in this game or just pointing out this is going to be a mislynch and wait people saying "oh god Robik was right he is probably town"?
Haru had a feeling you were town because of your meta, so I am believing him. My best scum guesses are poof and rayn, but honestly, that "trap" I set worked so good on OK...
Also, I think you are pretty active. Also, I think you are pretty.
Also, I think you should drive instead of posting, you can get yourself killed :O
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On July 16 2014 07:58 IAmRobik wrote:
I laid out earlier EXACTLY what is going to happen. Banks is going to afk until the very end. He's either gonna give a shit defense cause he's town and convince me that he's town but not convince anyone else, or he's going to give the best defense, just like he did in world cup and then no one is gonna want to lynch him.
He started out with the former, which made me think, jeez, maybe it's a bad lynch, but now that he's come in with full guns blazing he's like 1000000000% mafia and everyone switching off of him is drinking cool aid straight out of his lying butthole.
You actually said that exact thing. So, you were helping townies BEFORE they needed that help.
I think I love you.
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I'm going to have dinner. Townies, please think about this:
If poof was town, why would he wait until EoD to do this hard push on us?
Just to remember, "because of new facts near EoD came up" is not an answer. He based his case on old posts and a precious game. He could've brought his case earlier.
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Funny, Sinani got out from his lurking to discredit us. Paired with OK.
Oh god.
Changing wagons near EoD is the best way to get into a mislynch. Poof knows that. He waited to build this case just close to the EoD so if he was the lynch target he could get out of the lynch.
You're really not realising this?
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On July 16 2014 08:18 OnceKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2014 08:17 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 16 2014 07:45 OnceKing wrote:
where the fuck has poofter ever said he thinks I'm mafia but not LOL I said you are conspiracy mafia in my reads. yeah so that's just mafia right not "OK is mafia but not"
He say you could be mafia.
He says if I am flip green, you're certainly mafia.
He votes on me. Therefore, he is considering you're not mafia and I am
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I'm all for voting bunnies tbh.
Not a shit strategy, we were not going to die n2 because of Haru's play. But we claimed out of panic :/
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I'm sorry poof but the reaction I got from you gave me a scum feeling.
I'm all for lynching you.
Tbh, we thought you were scum day1 and that's why we put the check on you. We would never try to lynch someone we had townie feel.
It doesn't matter anyway. We are probably going to die n2
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On July 16 2014 08:48 Tehpoofter wrote:
##unvote
##Vote: VendettaSTrade
They're not around they don't care about the end of day. I care I'm town. IF YOU ARE TOWN AND VOTING ME YOU ARE NOT PLAYING TOWARDS YOUR WINCON!
This is actually a good point IMO
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Robik what do you think of lynching Rayn?
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Poof, this is easy. If we die, Robik fake claimed and therefore will be the next lynch
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Ooooooh you are NOT doing this!
Keep on bunnies or our possible check will suck
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On July 16 2014 09:35 Tehpoofter wrote:
Haru/GB where you at? what are you thinking? Koshi/Artanis you both afk too?
Robik I know you're here.
I'm trying to cover possible scenarios. Still, it seems I should lynch my scumreads, and those are you and Rayn, so, lynching you helps check. It really helps, because we will get to know alignments.
In case Robik is medic, we live. In case he isn't, we die. If we die, Robik is certainly mafia. If we live and nobody dies, he is medic.
Now, yes, we should be lynching our main scumreads. You are one of them, even after these bunch of posts which I must assume that have pretty decent logic. But you had all the day to defend yourself. You had all the day to put town in the right path but you didn't.
Sorry poof, I actually love your play style since that game we've played but your lynch seems to be the best option to me.
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On July 16 2014 09:43 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2014 09:42 GlowingBear wrote:On July 16 2014 09:35 Tehpoofter wrote:
Haru/GB where you at? what are you thinking? Koshi/Artanis you both afk too?
Robik I know you're here. I'm trying to cover possible scenarios. Still, it seems I should lynch my scumreads, and those are you and Rayn, so, lynching you helps check. It really helps, because we will get to know alignments. In case Robik is medic, we live. In case he isn't, we die. If we die, Robik is certainly mafia. If we live and nobody dies, he is medic. Now, yes, we should be lynching our main scumreads. You are one of them, even after these bunch of posts which I must assume that have pretty decent logic. But you had all the day to defend yourself. You had all the day to put town in the right path but you didn't. Sorry poof, I actually love your play style since that game we've played but your lynch seems to be the best option to me. Think about this Glowing bear WE have played the one game together THE ONE When did i start playing in that game? At EOD I did everything at EOD thats what its the hardest for sucm to play I went over this a bunch. Like think about when i was townie at last game.
You realise that we've only killed Teemu because I voted on him, right? You went straight for Epishade lol.
Yeah, I remember that game, that's also what made me think you're probably scum. You came by EoD, that's right, but you were much, much more aggressive, much more... Counselling(?). You always started a wagon, a second wagon, trying to disrupting mafia.
Now, you're just really passive. You're only starting to be aggressive now. I'm not willing to change votes
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I want to hear their opinion too, banks. I don't like their inactivity now.
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On July 16 2014 09:52 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2014 09:50 GlowingBear wrote:On July 16 2014 09:43 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 16 2014 09:42 GlowingBear wrote:On July 16 2014 09:35 Tehpoofter wrote:
Haru/GB where you at? what are you thinking? Koshi/Artanis you both afk too?
Robik I know you're here. I'm trying to cover possible scenarios. Still, it seems I should lynch my scumreads, and those are you and Rayn, so, lynching you helps check. It really helps, because we will get to know alignments. In case Robik is medic, we live. In case he isn't, we die. If we die, Robik is certainly mafia. If we live and nobody dies, he is medic. Now, yes, we should be lynching our main scumreads. You are one of them, even after these bunch of posts which I must assume that have pretty decent logic. But you had all the day to defend yourself. You had all the day to put town in the right path but you didn't. Sorry poof, I actually love your play style since that game we've played but your lynch seems to be the best option to me. Think about this Glowing bear WE have played the one game together THE ONE When did i start playing in that game? At EOD I did everything at EOD thats what its the hardest for sucm to play I went over this a bunch. Like think about when i was townie at last game. You realise that we've only killed Teemu because I voted on him, right? You went straight for Epishade lol. Yeah, I remember that game, that's also what made me think you're probably scum. You came by EoD, that's right, but you were much, much more aggressive, much more... Counselling(?). You always started a wagon, a second wagon, trying to disrupting mafia. Now, you're just really passive. You're only starting to be aggressive now. I'm not willing to change votes I VOTED HARU AND MADE HIM FAKE CLAIM I came in aggressive sadly it was on you and I was only aggressive at the end of the game. I was wrong though Like I was probably wrong on ou I'm town here. What can i do to make you change? Haru where you at you were in the game too?
You came aggressive too late, that's what I'm saying.
You can't convince me you are town. You can only convince me if you bring a better scenario.
This is the scenario I have: we kill you, you flip whatever and we can get useful check against other players. If we die, we have our mafia: Robik, and we are out of LYLO. If we don't, we have our certain check.
Give me a better scenario. You're assuming Rayn is scum but he could not be, that's where the problem lies. We would get a similar scenario but our checks would mean nothing because we won't know alignments for sure
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On July 16 2014 10:03 Tehpoofter wrote:
No one is here. This is a misslynch.
I swear GB ROBIK WILL YOU BE HAPPY WHEN I FLIP TOWN???
ANSWER ME THIS??
I'll be sad because I like you and your play style 
I think I know what you're saying about the gap in my logic but I think he wouldn't be so silly. If we are taking the same thing here.
OnceKing, Eden's scenario is not accurate because in case there are only 4 of us, the parity check will only reveal if people are on the same team or not, which means NOTHING because we will be 2 towns and 2 scums. Eden is assuming he is confirmed town, but he isn't. I just BELIEVE he is town.
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On July 16 2014 10:10 IAmRobik wrote:
I READ EVERYTHING. (maybe i missed a couple posts somewhere in the 105-107 range...don't remember which page i pseudo skimmed). BANKS IS MAFIA. IF HE WASN'T MAFIA HE WOULDN'T MIND GETTING LYNCHED HERE. WE GUARANTEE INFORMATION TOMORROW THAT IS WAY BETTER INFORMATION THAN IF HE WERE ALIVE.
This is so easy tbh. Kill proofs, he flips green (if not red), I die, Robik and Rayn mafia gets killed.
Kill poofs, flips red, kill once king because they were paired.
My mind is not working properly right now tbh but it seems that this is the thing.
Poof, sorry, no. Won't risk changing my vote now. I'm so, so sorry
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I don't know where Haru is, probably sleeping.
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