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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 11 2014 16:15 GMT
#641
it wasn't even supposed to be a big deal and now it is.

so now it isn't again.

ta-da!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 11 2014 16:16 GMT
#642
On July 12 2014 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 01:12 IAmRobik wrote:
ExO expressed nervousness that we're going to get mislynched. I promised him that that will not happen.

I told mderg he would be entirely to blame if my massive unlynched streak ended.

He pointed out I was the senior and it was probably my job to make sure we didn't get lynched.

I conceded.

mderg, please confirm that this conversation took place.
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 16:16 GMT
#643
On July 12 2014 00:57 IAmRobik wrote:
TOWNIEST POST IN THE MOTHA FUCKIN THREAD. THIS GUY IS SO FUCKING BRUTALLY TOWN. IF ANYONE VOTES TO LYNCH HIM, YOU WILL FACE MY WRATH

Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 00:54 ExO_ wrote:
Some thoughts:

Team D-

I tend to have weird hours that I can be on, and I'm not just reading the TL forums 24/7, so while I can't always be as active as robik saying I'm not doing anything now isn't really giving me a fair shake in my opinion (@27ninjabunnies).

Every game I've seen 27nb in she goes around being very caustic and arrogant towards some people, and very nice to others. It seems to be regardless of her alignment. I find it to be unhelpful, as she goes off on tangents with wild accusations filled with bullshit reasoning for scum reads.

What this means in terms of the game is it's hard for me to read her as mafia or town. But I think she does more to cause problems in a town, than actually help with finding scum and uniting the town players.

Poofter isn't saying much and is kinda letting her get out in front. I don't know how to interpret that, but in World Cup poofter stayed kinda quiet until it came time to push me in the wrong directions. Nearly worked too .

So a null read on the team but I generally think constantly creating a toxic atmosphere for the town is a bad thing even if they are town.

Team Whine
Slam is posting a fuck ton of 1 liners/pictures/general nonsense (hijole?) and sqrtofneg1 is saying nothing at all. In larger games I think mafia lurking works better than in a smaller game such as this, but it's almost nothing to read off of. Will have to wait to see what they vote day 1 and what happens night 1 to really know what to think of them.

Team VendettaStrada
I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing.

Team needs a lawyer
I always kinda read HaruRH scummy, he has a little bit of omgus going on, but I miss read him in world cup so it gives me pause. So I look over at glowing bear, and he hasn't said a whole lot either. Just got caught up in the Kenpachi business. But doesn't really read town to me. I lean scum here, but I'm hesitant.

Team Magic Carpet
Not a lot of posts from straightform just asking questions "Robik why won't u post?, Why would exo/robik not posting Day 1 not be bad for town" etc... Palmar calls out team lawyer for not posting anything of value, but I see very little of value from him at all. After reading his filter i think Palmar is the most scummy looking person so far in the thread.
*scum read*

Team GoodCornBadCorn
Completely afk. Like 1 combined other than their /in posts. like what....? Do they not know the game is happening? No reads yet for obvious reasons

Team Crotch Rocket
Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though

Team Fraud walRus
Sinani saying hardly anything, OnceKing's vote on our team I think is bad: it's based on robik not playing the game, when robik has been pretty active. Hasn't really expanded on any reads and got pretty caught up in ol' kenpachi but I don't get a scum vibe from him. Null read

Team M squared
mderg hasn't said too much, but I've generally liked and agreed with what marv has to say. I think Town


So that leaves me with

Town
M squared
Vendetta Strata (aka how can I make a parody of that team name)
Rocket Crotch


Null
D-
Whine*
Goodcornbadcorn*
Fraud walRus

Scum
Lawyer
Magic Carpet

*Mostly afk

[/i][/i]
Unfortunately, I think I shall cast some doubt on this post.
Some of these town reads are kind of fishy.
Ex:

Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though
Not my cup of tea.
Or this one

I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing.

I'm not so sure he's town. But the post is definitely the best post so far. But some of these reads seem fabricated.
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27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
July 11 2014 16:16 GMT
#644
On July 12 2014 01:14 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 01:11 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 12 2014 01:10 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 12 2014 01:09 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 12 2014 00:21 IAmRobik wrote:
I never want to lynch glowingbear


On July 12 2014 00:38 IAmRobik wrote:
Based God harurh.
I am never voting you this game

Your teammate said something super towny
we should forge an alliance
you should recruit rayn/slendy for it since they're town too.
Then we just need to find 1 more team and we've pretty much got ourselves a lock.


That's all you say on haru.

I filtered your posts. This was page 3 of your filter. You say nothing about haru previously.

Remember when you said you lynch liars?

well so do I.

##Vote: Team FakeClaim

I never claimed to have said it. I claim that I was thinking it. You can't say I was lying about thinking it.


On July 12 2014 01:04 IAmRobik wrote:
Marv and bunnies did not read the post clearly enough, and I can confirm 100000% that I did not like haru's reads to start the game. FACT!


Confirm it then. Because I don't see it in the thread.

I'm not a mind reader Robik.

I confirmed it previously. I was really really feeling scummy on Haru for his earlier posts. I think that glowingbears post was really towny, and I was unwilling to vote haru d1, but if that's what ExO wants to do, I'll follow him to the motha fuckin promised land


Link. Because I don't see it. The only time I see you "confirming" that you were scummy on haru is this post.

On July 12 2014 01:04 IAmRobik wrote:
Marv and bunnies did not read the post clearly enough, and I can confirm 100000% that I did not like haru's reads to start the game. FACT!


And that's not confirming it.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 11 2014 16:17 GMT
#645
Thx ExO_ for not even acknowledging we exist
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 11 2014 16:18 GMT
#646
On July 12 2014 01:17 Palmar wrote:
Thx ExO_ for not even acknowledging we exist

he called you mafia actually
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 16:18 GMT
#647
Okay, time to start filterdiving!
brb with reads.
Imaginary
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 11 2014 16:18 GMT
#648
#marv'sawesomereadingcomprehensiontotherescue
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 11 2014 16:18 GMT
#649
On July 12 2014 01:16 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 01:14 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 12 2014 01:11 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 12 2014 01:10 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 12 2014 01:09 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 12 2014 00:21 IAmRobik wrote:
I never want to lynch glowingbear


On July 12 2014 00:38 IAmRobik wrote:
Based God harurh.
I am never voting you this game

Your teammate said something super towny
we should forge an alliance
you should recruit rayn/slendy for it since they're town too.
Then we just need to find 1 more team and we've pretty much got ourselves a lock.


That's all you say on haru.

I filtered your posts. This was page 3 of your filter. You say nothing about haru previously.

Remember when you said you lynch liars?

well so do I.

##Vote: Team FakeClaim

I never claimed to have said it. I claim that I was thinking it. You can't say I was lying about thinking it.


On July 12 2014 01:04 IAmRobik wrote:
Marv and bunnies did not read the post clearly enough, and I can confirm 100000% that I did not like haru's reads to start the game. FACT!


Confirm it then. Because I don't see it in the thread.

I'm not a mind reader Robik.

I confirmed it previously. I was really really feeling scummy on Haru for his earlier posts. I think that glowingbears post was really towny, and I was unwilling to vote haru d1, but if that's what ExO wants to do, I'll follow him to the motha fuckin promised land


Link. Because I don't see it. The only time I see you "confirming" that you were scummy on haru is this post.

Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 01:04 IAmRobik wrote:
Marv and bunnies did not read the post clearly enough, and I can confirm 100000% that I did not like haru's reads to start the game. FACT!


And that's not confirming it.

That's confirming that I thought Haru was scummy. I just said, I didn't write earlier in the game "oh man, haru is scummy" I just thought it. Then I saw glowingbear's post and changed my mind on that team as a whole. Haru being based god...well that's just a fact that extends to the beginning of time, not just this game.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
July 11 2014 16:19 GMT
#650
Hahahaha.

I'm toxic to town.

That is just classic.

Anyone else think I'm toxic to town?
Or do I actually have a basis behind my reads.

Don't be shy. If I am, I need to know. Because I'm not shitting up the thread with useless and basless posts. I'm questioning people. Even if it's not the questions that everyone thinks I need to ask.

What exactly am I doing that makes me toxic to town?
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
July 11 2014 16:20 GMT
#651
On July 12 2014 01:16 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
On July 12 2014 01:12 IAmRobik wrote:
ExO expressed nervousness that we're going to get mislynched. I promised him that that will not happen.

I told mderg he would be entirely to blame if my massive unlynched streak ended.

He pointed out I was the senior and it was probably my job to make sure we didn't get lynched.

I conceded.

mderg, please confirm that this conversation took place.

/confirm
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 11 2014 16:20 GMT
#652
btw we can always kill the people who haven't posted yet. That's a pro tactic in small games.

Ref: geript's PYP mini.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 16:20 GMT
#653
Okay, rayn is first on my list.
Town.
Like I pointed out, this is an excellent post.
On July 11 2014 22:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also this is from my notes regarding my earlier post:

I felt like Eden is running out of arguments after the Kenpachi gambit. After the stuff he said does not sell to people he soft-calls out poofer for something really awful.

Also poofer's post was bad because this is not a normal hydra game and reading two people as one is a bad strategy, if someone is scummy they are likely to be scum. It does not matter how townie the other half looks.

Let's see if Palmar is paying attention to the game. He should most likely say these things in case he is town.

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Imaginary
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 11 2014 16:21 GMT
#654
Can we stop with the bloody grapes?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
July 11 2014 16:22 GMT
#655
On July 12 2014 01:18 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 01:16 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 12 2014 01:14 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 12 2014 01:11 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 12 2014 01:10 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 12 2014 01:09 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 12 2014 00:21 IAmRobik wrote:
I never want to lynch glowingbear


On July 12 2014 00:38 IAmRobik wrote:
Based God harurh.
I am never voting you this game

Your teammate said something super towny
we should forge an alliance
you should recruit rayn/slendy for it since they're town too.
Then we just need to find 1 more team and we've pretty much got ourselves a lock.


That's all you say on haru.

I filtered your posts. This was page 3 of your filter. You say nothing about haru previously.

Remember when you said you lynch liars?

well so do I.

##Vote: Team FakeClaim

I never claimed to have said it. I claim that I was thinking it. You can't say I was lying about thinking it.


On July 12 2014 01:04 IAmRobik wrote:
Marv and bunnies did not read the post clearly enough, and I can confirm 100000% that I did not like haru's reads to start the game. FACT!


Confirm it then. Because I don't see it in the thread.

I'm not a mind reader Robik.

I confirmed it previously. I was really really feeling scummy on Haru for his earlier posts. I think that glowingbears post was really towny, and I was unwilling to vote haru d1, but if that's what ExO wants to do, I'll follow him to the motha fuckin promised land


Link. Because I don't see it. The only time I see you "confirming" that you were scummy on haru is this post.

On July 12 2014 01:04 IAmRobik wrote:
Marv and bunnies did not read the post clearly enough, and I can confirm 100000% that I did not like haru's reads to start the game. FACT!


And that's not confirming it.

That's confirming that I thought Haru was scummy. I just said, I didn't write earlier in the game "oh man, haru is scummy" I just thought it. Then I saw glowingbear's post and changed my mind on that team as a whole. Haru being based god...well that's just a fact that extends to the beginning of time, not just this game.


Like I said robik, not a mind reader.

We can't know exactly what you are thinking.

My point is, even ExO says that he doesn't expect his reads to align with yours.

By that logic, that makes you and ExO mafia.

Hypocrite much?
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
July 11 2014 16:23 GMT
#656
I love how sqrtofneg1 shows up immediately after marv starts talking about the people who haven't posted yet
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 11 2014 16:23 GMT
#657
Oh wait, ExO called us mafia with HaruRH and co.

I can't beat that logic.

So yeah, I'm going to vote ExO because his scumreads are basically an admission that he hasn't read the thread. If he had, he'd know that the most unlikely mafia pair is probably us/lawyer. My vote and case on lawyer was like the first serious accusation in the thread.

Computer says mafia
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 16:24 GMT
#658
Haru is definitely strange.
He is not acting like in previous games.
I don't like him.

His partner, Glowingbear, however, I do like.
This:
On July 12 2014 00:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 21:28 Palmar wrote:
Actually, I'm going to do this:

##Unvote
##Vote Team WeDemandALawyer


The reasons:

1. They both seemed excited to play pre-game, but haven't posted anything of value.

2. This post

On July 11 2014 11:47 GlowingBear wrote:
/confirm

Hello guys, it's my second game here.
It seems that there is a ruckus going on already. Can someone explain me what Is the Kenpachi rule?

Also, I'll be signing every post of mine with a bolded "-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear" so it gets easier to identify the team.

-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear


Specifically the bolded sentence feels like massively useless fluff observation.

3. This post

On July 11 2014 12:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Kenpachi rule doesn't sound as a winning plan to me. You may use it as a secondary argument but to get to the point you have a primary one there is so much game to be played. I think that if we keep discussing this topic it will just a waste of breath.
Why do I think it's secondary: a scum can fake claim vt just so he can get townie to accuse him and get mislynched. More than that, a vt can simply try to pressure someone who claimed vt. Why not?

-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and Glowingbear


Talking about stuff that is really easy to talk about without giving any sort of an opinion on anyone in the game. I think it was sinani who pointed out that this post also came at a really awkward time, after people had mostly dropped the kenpachi thing.

3. This post

On July 11 2014 19:59 HaruRH wrote:
/confirm

Robik is going to be afk? But exo is a d1 non-poster too...

Meh

-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear


I like the summary of his opinion on the issue. "Meh".


1) Being excited =\= spamming. More than that, I wasn't posting anymore because I was sleeping. Different time zones hooray. I'm excited and I'm reading through everything but if you think not giving a opinion on someone is scummy, I'll say that giving free useless opinions on everyone is scummy. As I didn't know at the time what the Kenpachi rule was and as I said we needed more game to have a primary argument, I think it's pretty reasonable to just point out useless effort and wait to have more food to make a case, probably around midday.

2)Pointint out that I didn't know exactly what was happening because I didn't know the meaning of Kenpachi rule. How can I understand a fight if I can not understand the language?
I think the team name bolding is very good so we can give a better analysis while diving through the topic.

3) See point 1. Also, I don't think it was unnecessary post as we were wasting breath on a useless subject by the moment, and I find scummy people who just spam things about useless objects, so town loses time and focus. It has already stopped, well, yes, but to the point you would say that I pratically necrobumped it? Check the post times or the distance between my post and the last "Kenpachi rule" post. It's less than a page.
More: why would I bring the discussion back just to say "let's not discuss this"? If it was a misleading topic and I were scum, shouldn't I just keep the topic going on saying something like "oh we have to use this policy because of X"?

Is a good post. Decent logic here.

Overall, I'm on the fence with these guys.

Haru, a question for you.
On July 12 2014 00:34 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 00:32 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 12 2014 00:28 OnceKing wrote:
On July 11 2014 14:31 OnceKing wrote:
On July 11 2014 12:38 Stratiform wrote:
On July 11 2014 12:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Stratiform, I've never seen you before or played with you before.

Do you play here on TL often?

How familiar are you with the game mafia?

What is your take on the game so far?

I've never played on TL, only irl and some facebook based games. I'm familiar with how mafia works.

As for the game so far, I don't really see any information to cast more than suspicion on anyone.

Fun question
What merits casting more than suspicion then
And who is your suspicion cast upon

So I go to sleep
and I wake up
and this question still isn't answered... Stratiform pls

--

Robik can you tell me what bunnies/poof have done that's scummy other than "they disagree with each other"? Alternately can you explain why disagreeing with your teammate is alignment indicative?

I don't know. The only thing that really bothers me strongly is that they have differing reads based off of my previous experience with playing as a hydra and the two heads expressing differing reads -- it also happened in my first game with rayn and mocsta expressing different reads. So both hydras that I've played with that were mafia had different reads. The one hydra that I played with that had the same reads (mattisfoolish) had the same reads.

it also MINORLY bothers me that bunnies is trying to push scum on me because I'm town, so that's pushing an anti-town agenda


I was waiting for you to say that robik

Top town

Why were you waiting for robik to say this?
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mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
July 11 2014 16:24 GMT
#659
Can we lynch Robik for being a liar?
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
July 11 2014 16:25 GMT
#660
On July 12 2014 01:24 mderg wrote:
Can we lynch Robik for being a liar?


Don't throw the baby out with the bath water!

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