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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 02:22 GMT
#276
Greetings. I am sqrtofneg1, and this is my 5th game here!
I still haven't rolled mafia yet.

This deadline is not the best for me.
Good night!
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 15:50 GMT
#599
Okay, awake and catching up. I shall input my thoughts as they come up.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 15:52 GMT
#603
On July 11 2014 11:47 GlowingBear wrote:
/confirm

Hello guys, it's my second game here.
It seems that there is a ruckus going on already. Can someone explain me what Is the Kenpachi rule?

Also, I'll be signing every post of mine with a bolded "-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear" so it gets easier to identify the team.

-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear


First post that catches my eye. This team is leaning town. First team to get a signature.

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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 15:55 GMT
#606
On July 11 2014 13:00 OnceKing wrote:
i also think we should evaluate each person individually independent of who their other half is.

This may come to prove important.
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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 15:56 GMT
#609
On July 11 2014 13:33 Alakaslam wrote:
So I put that in the qt for sqrt

qt shortens it

ruins it

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Yeah the qt ruined it.
Didn't work.
fixed now.
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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 16:01 GMT
#614
On July 11 2014 19:33 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 19:30 mderg wrote:
On July 11 2014 19:26 Eden1892 wrote:
On July 11 2014 18:50 marvellosity wrote:
I think I'm going to ignore Eden, dunno if he posts like a stupid kid for a particular reason, but it makes him look like a stupid kid and it's annoying to read his posts with terrible english.

why would you ignore a confirmed townie? very sketchy play imo

The last time I remember someone saying that he was confirmed townie he was actually scum.

the last time I had a grilled cheese sandwich for dinner I got laid by a hot Russian chick later that night

Eden is town.
Last time I played with Eden, he was mafia, and he wasn't joking around like this. He came down hard on people.
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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 16:04 GMT
#617
On July 11 2014 21:34 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 21:28 Palmar wrote:
Actually, I'm going to do this:

##Unvote
##Vote Team WeDemandALawyer


The reasons:

1. They both seemed excited to play pre-game, but haven't posted anything of value.

2. This post

On July 11 2014 11:47 GlowingBear wrote:
/confirm

Hello guys, it's my second game here.
It seems that there is a ruckus going on already. Can someone explain me what Is the Kenpachi rule?

Also, I'll be signing every post of mine with a bolded "-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear" so it gets easier to identify the team.

-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear


Specifically the bolded sentence feels like massively useless fluff observation.

3. This post

On July 11 2014 12:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Kenpachi rule doesn't sound as a winning plan to me. You may use it as a secondary argument but to get to the point you have a primary one there is so much game to be played. I think that if we keep discussing this topic it will just a waste of breath.
Why do I think it's secondary: a scum can fake claim vt just so he can get townie to accuse him and get mislynched. More than that, a vt can simply try to pressure someone who claimed vt. Why not?

-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and Glowingbear


Talking about stuff that is really easy to talk about without giving any sort of an opinion on anyone in the game. I think it was sinani who pointed out that this post also came at a really awkward time, after people had mostly dropped the kenpachi thing.

3. This post

On July 11 2014 19:59 HaruRH wrote:
/confirm

Robik is going to be afk? But exo is a d1 non-poster too...

Meh

-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear


I like the summary of his opinion on the issue. "Meh".


1) we were excited to play yes. But not terribly excited to talk about kenpachi rule for 10 pages.

2) this means we won't see robik/exo team for a whole of d1. Meh.

3) fluff = scum?

UNICORNS AND DRAGONS WEEEEEE

Haru is all like: meh.
I'm not sure what that means, but I'm keeping an eye on him.
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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 16:04 GMT
#619
Forgot to do this:
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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 16:06 GMT
#623
On July 11 2014 22:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also this is from my notes regarding my earlier post:

I felt like Eden is running out of arguments after the Kenpachi gambit. After the stuff he said does not sell to people he soft-calls out poofer for something really awful.

Also poofer's post was bad because this is not a normal hydra game and reading two people as one is a bad strategy, if someone is scummy they are likely to be scum. It does not matter how townie the other half looks.

Let's see if Palmar is paying attention to the game. He should most likely say these things in case he is town.

We are not lynching this guy. Or at least, not today.
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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 16:16 GMT
#643
On July 12 2014 00:57 IAmRobik wrote:
TOWNIEST POST IN THE MOTHA FUCKIN THREAD. THIS GUY IS SO FUCKING BRUTALLY TOWN. IF ANYONE VOTES TO LYNCH HIM, YOU WILL FACE MY WRATH

Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 00:54 ExO_ wrote:
Some thoughts:

Team D-

I tend to have weird hours that I can be on, and I'm not just reading the TL forums 24/7, so while I can't always be as active as robik saying I'm not doing anything now isn't really giving me a fair shake in my opinion (@27ninjabunnies).

Every game I've seen 27nb in she goes around being very caustic and arrogant towards some people, and very nice to others. It seems to be regardless of her alignment. I find it to be unhelpful, as she goes off on tangents with wild accusations filled with bullshit reasoning for scum reads.

What this means in terms of the game is it's hard for me to read her as mafia or town. But I think she does more to cause problems in a town, than actually help with finding scum and uniting the town players.

Poofter isn't saying much and is kinda letting her get out in front. I don't know how to interpret that, but in World Cup poofter stayed kinda quiet until it came time to push me in the wrong directions. Nearly worked too .

So a null read on the team but I generally think constantly creating a toxic atmosphere for the town is a bad thing even if they are town.

Team Whine
Slam is posting a fuck ton of 1 liners/pictures/general nonsense (hijole?) and sqrtofneg1 is saying nothing at all. In larger games I think mafia lurking works better than in a smaller game such as this, but it's almost nothing to read off of. Will have to wait to see what they vote day 1 and what happens night 1 to really know what to think of them.

Team VendettaStrada
I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing.

Team needs a lawyer
I always kinda read HaruRH scummy, he has a little bit of omgus going on, but I miss read him in world cup so it gives me pause. So I look over at glowing bear, and he hasn't said a whole lot either. Just got caught up in the Kenpachi business. But doesn't really read town to me. I lean scum here, but I'm hesitant.

Team Magic Carpet
Not a lot of posts from straightform just asking questions "Robik why won't u post?, Why would exo/robik not posting Day 1 not be bad for town" etc... Palmar calls out team lawyer for not posting anything of value, but I see very little of value from him at all. After reading his filter i think Palmar is the most scummy looking person so far in the thread.
*scum read*

Team GoodCornBadCorn
Completely afk. Like 1 combined other than their /in posts. like what....? Do they not know the game is happening? No reads yet for obvious reasons

Team Crotch Rocket
Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though

Team Fraud walRus
Sinani saying hardly anything, OnceKing's vote on our team I think is bad: it's based on robik not playing the game, when robik has been pretty active. Hasn't really expanded on any reads and got pretty caught up in ol' kenpachi but I don't get a scum vibe from him. Null read

Team M squared
mderg hasn't said too much, but I've generally liked and agreed with what marv has to say. I think Town


So that leaves me with

Town
M squared
Vendetta Strata (aka how can I make a parody of that team name)
Rocket Crotch


Null
D-
Whine*
Goodcornbadcorn*
Fraud walRus

Scum
Lawyer
Magic Carpet

*Mostly afk

[/i][/i]
Unfortunately, I think I shall cast some doubt on this post.
Some of these town reads are kind of fishy.
Ex:

Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though
Not my cup of tea.
Or this one

I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing.

I'm not so sure he's town. But the post is definitely the best post so far. But some of these reads seem fabricated.
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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 16:18 GMT
#647
Okay, time to start filterdiving!
brb with reads.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 16:20 GMT
#653
Okay, rayn is first on my list.
Town.
Like I pointed out, this is an excellent post.
On July 11 2014 22:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also this is from my notes regarding my earlier post:

I felt like Eden is running out of arguments after the Kenpachi gambit. After the stuff he said does not sell to people he soft-calls out poofer for something really awful.

Also poofer's post was bad because this is not a normal hydra game and reading two people as one is a bad strategy, if someone is scummy they are likely to be scum. It does not matter how townie the other half looks.

Let's see if Palmar is paying attention to the game. He should most likely say these things in case he is town.

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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 16:24 GMT
#658
Haru is definitely strange.
He is not acting like in previous games.
I don't like him.

His partner, Glowingbear, however, I do like.
This:
On July 12 2014 00:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 21:28 Palmar wrote:
Actually, I'm going to do this:

##Unvote
##Vote Team WeDemandALawyer


The reasons:

1. They both seemed excited to play pre-game, but haven't posted anything of value.

2. This post

On July 11 2014 11:47 GlowingBear wrote:
/confirm

Hello guys, it's my second game here.
It seems that there is a ruckus going on already. Can someone explain me what Is the Kenpachi rule?

Also, I'll be signing every post of mine with a bolded "-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear" so it gets easier to identify the team.

-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear


Specifically the bolded sentence feels like massively useless fluff observation.

3. This post

On July 11 2014 12:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Kenpachi rule doesn't sound as a winning plan to me. You may use it as a secondary argument but to get to the point you have a primary one there is so much game to be played. I think that if we keep discussing this topic it will just a waste of breath.
Why do I think it's secondary: a scum can fake claim vt just so he can get townie to accuse him and get mislynched. More than that, a vt can simply try to pressure someone who claimed vt. Why not?

-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and Glowingbear


Talking about stuff that is really easy to talk about without giving any sort of an opinion on anyone in the game. I think it was sinani who pointed out that this post also came at a really awkward time, after people had mostly dropped the kenpachi thing.

3. This post

On July 11 2014 19:59 HaruRH wrote:
/confirm

Robik is going to be afk? But exo is a d1 non-poster too...

Meh

-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear


I like the summary of his opinion on the issue. "Meh".


1) Being excited =\= spamming. More than that, I wasn't posting anymore because I was sleeping. Different time zones hooray. I'm excited and I'm reading through everything but if you think not giving a opinion on someone is scummy, I'll say that giving free useless opinions on everyone is scummy. As I didn't know at the time what the Kenpachi rule was and as I said we needed more game to have a primary argument, I think it's pretty reasonable to just point out useless effort and wait to have more food to make a case, probably around midday.

2)Pointint out that I didn't know exactly what was happening because I didn't know the meaning of Kenpachi rule. How can I understand a fight if I can not understand the language?
I think the team name bolding is very good so we can give a better analysis while diving through the topic.

3) See point 1. Also, I don't think it was unnecessary post as we were wasting breath on a useless subject by the moment, and I find scummy people who just spam things about useless objects, so town loses time and focus. It has already stopped, well, yes, but to the point you would say that I pratically necrobumped it? Check the post times or the distance between my post and the last "Kenpachi rule" post. It's less than a page.
More: why would I bring the discussion back just to say "let's not discuss this"? If it was a misleading topic and I were scum, shouldn't I just keep the topic going on saying something like "oh we have to use this policy because of X"?

Is a good post. Decent logic here.

Overall, I'm on the fence with these guys.

Haru, a question for you.
On July 12 2014 00:34 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 00:32 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 12 2014 00:28 OnceKing wrote:
On July 11 2014 14:31 OnceKing wrote:
On July 11 2014 12:38 Stratiform wrote:
On July 11 2014 12:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Stratiform, I've never seen you before or played with you before.

Do you play here on TL often?

How familiar are you with the game mafia?

What is your take on the game so far?

I've never played on TL, only irl and some facebook based games. I'm familiar with how mafia works.

As for the game so far, I don't really see any information to cast more than suspicion on anyone.

Fun question
What merits casting more than suspicion then
And who is your suspicion cast upon

So I go to sleep
and I wake up
and this question still isn't answered... Stratiform pls

--

Robik can you tell me what bunnies/poof have done that's scummy other than "they disagree with each other"? Alternately can you explain why disagreeing with your teammate is alignment indicative?

I don't know. The only thing that really bothers me strongly is that they have differing reads based off of my previous experience with playing as a hydra and the two heads expressing differing reads -- it also happened in my first game with rayn and mocsta expressing different reads. So both hydras that I've played with that were mafia had different reads. The one hydra that I played with that had the same reads (mattisfoolish) had the same reads.

it also MINORLY bothers me that bunnies is trying to push scum on me because I'm town, so that's pushing an anti-town agenda


I was waiting for you to say that robik

Top town

Why were you waiting for robik to say this?
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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 16:27 GMT
#665
Tehpoofter hasn't done much. No read on him.
Bunnies, however, has talked alot. A lot lot.
Bunnies isn't as helpful as in other games, to the best of my memory. She's not questioning anything, not pushing people, I don't like it.
But I don't think we should lynch them because you usually don't lynch the most outspoken player, even if they're not posting all that useful stuff.

Bunnies, any particular reason for not scumhunting?
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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 16:31 GMT
#670
I do not like palmar. (this seems to be a trend)
He hasn't /confirmed yet.
First post:
On July 11 2014 04:25 Palmar wrote:
Hi I am Pálmar

And then does nothing for a significant amount of time.
Also this is not the palmar I saw when I played him. He was more analytical, more smart that game. This game, not so much.

Stratiform, I don't have a clue.
But this is my best read so far. They're mafia.
##Vote: Team Magic Computer
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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 16:32 GMT
#672
On July 12 2014 01:27 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 01:27 marvellosity wrote:
On July 12 2014 01:01 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On July 11 2014 19:33 Eden1892 wrote:
On July 11 2014 19:30 mderg wrote:
On July 11 2014 19:26 Eden1892 wrote:
On July 11 2014 18:50 marvellosity wrote:
I think I'm going to ignore Eden, dunno if he posts like a stupid kid for a particular reason, but it makes him look like a stupid kid and it's annoying to read his posts with terrible english.

why would you ignore a confirmed townie? very sketchy play imo

The last time I remember someone saying that he was confirmed townie he was actually scum.

the last time I had a grilled cheese sandwich for dinner I got laid by a hot Russian chick later that night

Eden is town.
Last time I played with Eden, he was mafia, and he wasn't joking around like this. He came down hard on people.

I just checked this because I was interested, you're doing meta bad.

Eden came out really quickly on someone in his towngame as well.

-M&M

Yeah, he went pretty HAM against me in his first newbie game. I had to n1 him. Bastard.

Correction, you never n1ed me.
My first game, you were town with me.
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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 16:33 GMT
#674
Ray + tambo hasn't talked yet. No read.
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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 16:34 GMT
#678
On July 11 2014 11:14 goodkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 11:11 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 11 2014 11:08 Eden1892 wrote:
On July 11 2014 11:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Eden are you sure you're not Blazinghand?

it would be a great honor


How about a fail.

Let me wisen you up on why BH is not that great of a player.

BH claimed vanilla town in a game I recently played with him. I questioned it, and he got me lynched because of Kenpachi Rule

Let me explain something here, that rule is the stupidest rule EVER!

I was fucking town. And im not going to have you mess up town's win this game just because you think it works.

Id rather vote you pff than deal with that bs again.


This is a new game. Let's not get muddled up in the past.

This is the only post by goodkarma. It's a valid point, but he hasn't said anything since.
I don't like that. He came in, but made one post, and was out again.

Eden, I don't like. Not doing work. Compare with this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445959-newbie-mini-mafia-liv?user=Eden1892
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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 16:36 GMT
#684
Robik is strange too. Not as aggressive as in his other games, but he says it's to let exo do some work. I'm willing to not lynch him for that.
Exo has that one post, but it looked to me like some of the reads were fabricated.
Keeping an eye on this team.

*insert grape picture here*
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
July 11 2014 16:39 GMT
#686
On July 11 2014 21:13 sinani206 wrote:
hey palmar.

what do you think of robik.

Why does sinani call out palmar in particular? Why hasn't he done anything yet?

OK is better, but not by much. He also asks others of what they think of robik too.
On July 11 2014 14:57 OnceKing wrote:
So based on what he's said thus far what think you of robik


I'm not sure what to make of this team. I wouldn't mind lynching them.

*insert grape picture here*
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