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On July 12 2014 23:22 HaruRH wrote:Robik always talk about 'anti-town /anti-town agenda' when he is town and people call him scum: Show nested quote +this push on him is so anti-town it fucking hurts every single bone in my body. Like literally. Go filterdive him on all his games. So I was waiting for him to say this. And surely enough, he did. Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 00:32 IAmRobik wrote:On July 12 2014 00:28 OnceKing wrote:On July 11 2014 14:31 OnceKing wrote:On July 11 2014 12:38 Stratiform wrote:On July 11 2014 12:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Stratiform, I've never seen you before or played with you before.
Do you play here on TL often?
How familiar are you with the game mafia?
What is your take on the game so far? I've never played on TL, only irl and some facebook based games. I'm familiar with how mafia works. As for the game so far, I don't really see any information to cast more than suspicion on anyone. Fun question What merits casting more than suspicion then And who is your suspicion cast upon So I go to sleep and I wake up and this question still isn't answered... Stratiform pls -- Robik can you tell me what bunnies/poof have done that's scummy other than "they disagree with each other"? Alternately can you explain why disagreeing with your teammate is alignment indicative? I don't know. The only thing that really bothers me strongly is that they have differing reads based off of my previous experience with playing as a hydra and the two heads expressing differing reads -- it also happened in my first game with rayn and mocsta expressing different reads. So both hydras that I've played with that were mafia had different reads. The one hydra that I played with that had the same reads (mattisfoolish) had the same reads. it also MINORLY bothers me that bunnies is trying to push scum on me because I'm town, so that's pushing an anti-town agenda My 'townread' on palmar is sarcasm. Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 21:41 HaruRH wrote:On July 11 2014 21:37 Palmar wrote:On July 11 2014 21:34 HaruRH wrote:On July 11 2014 21:28 Palmar wrote:Actually, I'm going to do this: ##Unvote
##Vote Team WeDemandALawyerThe reasons: 1. They both seemed excited to play pre-game, but haven't posted anything of value. 2. This post On July 11 2014 11:47 GlowingBear wrote:
/confirm
Hello guys, it's my second game here.
It seems that there is a ruckus going on already. Can someone explain me what Is the Kenpachi rule?
Also, I'll be signing every post of mine with a bolded "-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear" so it gets easier to identify the team.
-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear Specifically the bolded sentence feels like massively useless fluff observation. 3. This post On July 11 2014 12:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Kenpachi rule doesn't sound as a winning plan to me. You may use it as a secondary argument but to get to the point you have a primary one there is so much game to be played. I think that if we keep discussing this topic it will just a waste of breath.
Why do I think it's secondary: a scum can fake claim vt just so he can get townie to accuse him and get mislynched. More than that, a vt can simply try to pressure someone who claimed vt. Why not?
-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and Glowingbear Talking about stuff that is really easy to talk about without giving any sort of an opinion on anyone in the game. I think it was sinani who pointed out that this post also came at a really awkward time, after people had mostly dropped the kenpachi thing. 3. This post On July 11 2014 19:59 HaruRH wrote:
/confirm
Robik is going to be afk? But exo is a d1 non-poster too...
Meh
-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear
I like the summary of his opinion on the issue. "Meh". 1) we were excited to play yes. But not terribly excited to talk about kenpachi rule for 10 pages. 2) this means we won't see robik/exo team for a whole of d1. Meh. 3) fluff = scum? UNICORNS AND DRAGONS WEEEEEE Good defense. I will now unvote you. Oh wait, I don't have anything better to vote for. Do you think my case on you guys makes me mafia? I don't think making a case on anyone makes you scum. #freedomofspeech -WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 21:47 HaruRH wrote:On July 11 2014 21:45 Palmar wrote:On July 11 2014 21:41 HaruRH wrote:On July 11 2014 21:37 Palmar wrote:On July 11 2014 21:34 HaruRH wrote:On July 11 2014 21:28 Palmar wrote:Actually, I'm going to do this: ##Unvote
##Vote Team WeDemandALawyerThe reasons: 1. They both seemed excited to play pre-game, but haven't posted anything of value. 2. This post On July 11 2014 11:47 GlowingBear wrote:
/confirm
Hello guys, it's my second game here.
It seems that there is a ruckus going on already. Can someone explain me what Is the Kenpachi rule?
Also, I'll be signing every post of mine with a bolded "-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear" so it gets easier to identify the team.
-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear Specifically the bolded sentence feels like massively useless fluff observation. 3. This post On July 11 2014 12:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Kenpachi rule doesn't sound as a winning plan to me. You may use it as a secondary argument but to get to the point you have a primary one there is so much game to be played. I think that if we keep discussing this topic it will just a waste of breath.
Why do I think it's secondary: a scum can fake claim vt just so he can get townie to accuse him and get mislynched. More than that, a vt can simply try to pressure someone who claimed vt. Why not?
-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and Glowingbear Talking about stuff that is really easy to talk about without giving any sort of an opinion on anyone in the game. I think it was sinani who pointed out that this post also came at a really awkward time, after people had mostly dropped the kenpachi thing. 3. This post On July 11 2014 19:59 HaruRH wrote:
/confirm
Robik is going to be afk? But exo is a d1 non-poster too...
Meh
-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear
I like the summary of his opinion on the issue. "Meh". 1) we were excited to play yes. But not terribly excited to talk about kenpachi rule for 10 pages. 2) this means we won't see robik/exo team for a whole of d1. Meh. 3) fluff = scum? UNICORNS AND DRAGONS WEEEEEE Good defense. I will now unvote you. Oh wait, I don't have anything better to vote for. Do you think my case on you guys makes me mafia? I don't think making a case on anyone makes you scum. #freedomofspeech -WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear Well if you are town, either I'm town, and I am mistaken accidentally, or I'm mafia, and I'm forcing a case by being maliciously ignorant. I don't want to omgus so early :/ So you're mistaken accidentally. -WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear Note: In this quote above, I did not even call palmar 'mistaken town', but just 'mistaken' Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 21:50 HaruRH wrote:On July 11 2014 21:48 marvellosity wrote:
so I should get my vote on you now while it's still early and get a townread? But remember to unvote, or else you will be confirm scum after flip palmer is confirmed town for saying he is confirmed town-WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear read this bolded sentence ALOUD and tell me if you still think I am for serious.
Ok, I can see why you townread Robik. Doesn´t mean I agree with this town meta shit. It takes away a huge part of this game, if all you have to do is say a specific phrase and can never be lynched. On the other hand it also means that he should be policy lynched, if he doesn´t say that.
This also makes it a very easy townread without having to put in much effort.
Stratiform already told me about the Palmar read and I conceded that point.
You have certainly not been bleeding town this game, less scummy though, and the points about GlowingBear still stand 100%
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On July 12 2014 01:36 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 01:31 IAmRobik wrote:
^That proves that the reads are independent, and there's no way that he coordinated his answer based off of my post claiming that they were independent! So you can go suck it plammmmmar Do you still think bunnies and poof are scummy for having different reads or something?
You never gave an answer to this 
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I´ve never seen slam this angry, not sure what to make of this. I actually liked how he started this game, his reaction to the kenpachi rule looked townie to me and he looked carefree. The lack of good content didn´t look too good, though. Overall slam himself is not particularly scummy to me.
sqrt however I don´t like. The lack of good reasoning/explanation of reads is concerning. He did take some clear stances like on Palmar and Eden earlier (both were unconvincing, though). I really didn´t like the sudden switch on Eden then. Overall that´s pointing towards scum but I´m not entirely convinced.
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On July 13 2014 02:15 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2014 02:09 mderg wrote:
I´ve never seen slam this angry, not sure what to make of this. I actually liked how he started this game, his reaction to the kenpachi rule looked townie to me and he looked carefree. The lack of good content didn´t look too good, though. Overall slam himself is not particularly scummy to me.
sqrt however I don´t like. The lack of good reasoning/explanation of reads is concerning. He did take some clear stances like on Palmar and Eden earlier (both were unconvincing, though). I really didn´t like the sudden switch on Eden then. Overall that´s pointing towards scum but I´m not entirely convinced. I don't care if slam is pissed off, this is also a newbie game, if he thinks it's obvious he should explain why it is. If he gets angry for such little things he should try practicing muai thay or enter a anger management group. He's doing NOTHING to get his view clarified and to look like towny. He's just creating ruckus and a mess with posts. Being objective here: is that a town attitude or scum attitude? If you say "a pissed town attitude" then I'll remind that this is a newbie game and if he gets pissed with that, he should play "only vets" games. Koshi, I'll do that soon enough
I agree he´s not helping town with this. If it wasn´t slam, I´d probably have a strong scumread on him.
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On July 13 2014 02:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I shall not.
You shall lynch me either way.
You who have ears, let him hear.
Let my reads be known to those who choose to listen.
It would be nice to elaborate on these. If you´re town and get lynched we can´t do much based on your reads when you don´t give proper reasons for them. It would just be gambling on whether you´re right or wrong.
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On July 13 2014 02:49 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2014 02:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I shall not.
You shall lynch me either way.
You who have ears, let him hear.
Let my reads be known to those who choose to listen. how to play town: convince other towns that your scum are scum how to play scum: say things like this
That´s not textbook how to play scum. Scummy, yes, but not how I´d advise people to play scum
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On July 13 2014 02:59 sqrtofneg1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2014 02:57 sinani206 wrote:On July 13 2014 02:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Lawyer gonna get lynched? Nope.
We are.
And I'm trying to help town. I gave my thoughts on who's mafia, and who's town.
Like I said, you can disregard them.
You don't have to listen to what I think.
But that's what I think. convince me you're town to save town Not wasting efforts when I'm obviously gonna get lynched anyways.
seriously?
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On July 13 2014 03:00 sqrtofneg1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2014 02:59 mderg wrote:On July 13 2014 02:59 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On July 13 2014 02:57 sinani206 wrote:On July 13 2014 02:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Lawyer gonna get lynched? Nope.
We are.
And I'm trying to help town. I gave my thoughts on who's mafia, and who's town.
Like I said, you can disregard them.
You don't have to listen to what I think.
But that's what I think. convince me you're town to save town Not wasting efforts when I'm obviously gonna get lynched anyways. seriously? Yep.
Now tell me the town motivation behind that
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On July 13 2014 03:02 sqrtofneg1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2014 03:01 mderg wrote:On July 13 2014 03:00 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On July 13 2014 02:59 mderg wrote:On July 13 2014 02:59 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On July 13 2014 02:57 sinani206 wrote:On July 13 2014 02:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Lawyer gonna get lynched? Nope.
We are.
And I'm trying to help town. I gave my thoughts on who's mafia, and who's town.
Like I said, you can disregard them.
You don't have to listen to what I think.
But that's what I think. convince me you're town to save town Not wasting efforts when I'm obviously gonna get lynched anyways. seriously? Yep. Now tell me the town motivation behind that resigned to a mislynch.
One last time. If you're getting mislynched as town you should always give your reads and elaborate on them. You can still help winning the game like that.
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On July 13 2014 03:10 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I've given my reads.
Not wasting time elaborating on them.
Choose to take them into consideration or not.
Plus, reads, are just thoughts. One's thoughts are just thoughts. When I do flip town, you don't want to take my reads into consideration b/c they're just thoughts.
Have you considered that I don't want town to win anymore? After they mislynch me D1? First time getting D1ed for me. Ever, including a significant number of irl games.
But instead of not giving reads at all, I'm giving mine, just not explaining them.
Make do with them.
If you don't elaborate on your reads they're worth nothing.
If you're town and don't want town to win anymore, you're mad for nothing. Town gets mislynched D1 all the time.
There's no reason not to lynch you anymore.
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On July 13 2014 03:16 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2014 03:14 mderg wrote:On July 13 2014 03:10 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I've given my reads.
Not wasting time elaborating on them.
Choose to take them into consideration or not.
Plus, reads, are just thoughts. One's thoughts are just thoughts. When I do flip town, you don't want to take my reads into consideration b/c they're just thoughts.
Have you considered that I don't want town to win anymore? After they mislynch me D1? First time getting D1ed for me. Ever, including a significant number of irl games.
But instead of not giving reads at all, I'm giving mine, just not explaining them.
Make do with them. There's no reason not to lynch you anymore. and yet your vote is... oh yeah on the counterwagon, legit
LOL, just lol.
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On July 13 2014 03:18 Eden1892 wrote:
move your vote so we can kill this dude
I did, just had to make sure that it´s not IML and find the vote thread.
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Just so that nobody misses it
##unvote
##vote Team Cabernet Sauvignon
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On July 13 2014 05:15 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2014 04:19 OnceKing wrote:
bunnies, do you think slamroot is a mislynch?
i'm not discounting other wagons but you'll need to do a lot of work to show me why you think chairman koshi is a better lynch than slamroot. I got some pretty heavy townie vibes from CR before. I do. I've seen Slam get mad as town when he was about to get mislynched. And it seems he is getting mad this game. I've also never seen slam give up. He has fought to the death as town, so I admit, that slows me down a bit on my townread. But I also see no one really defending them. Some have said "eh well, maybe they are town" and seem wishy washy. Idk, to me it seems if they were mafia, why would their mafia scummate want them lynched day 1? Unless they really think they can win this game by themselves. I just don't see it. What about CRs post seemed townie to you?
The meta about him getting mad only works, if there was a game where he got mad as scum.
Pretty much the same thing goes for him giving up.
They´re undefendable at this point because they´re not even trying to defend themselves or help town any further.
On July 13 2014 05:19 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Also, Where's Rayn/Slender or Mderg/Marv? I feel like it's been awhile since I've seen any of them.
That makes me really sad since I posted literally 20 minutes before you got back into the thread.
I don't like the case on koshi, it's 100% meta. Yes, he looks closer to his scum meta than his town meta but that's about it. I'd not vote someone based on just that. I don't think the post you quoted from CR is scummy at all.
I'm too tired to finish reading, so I'll go to bed. My vote stays where it is.
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Bunnies' play reminds an awful lot of my play in Detention mafia. I did also defend a pretty much certain to be lynched townie there for almost no reason, I also brought up how it was unlikely for him to flip scum there because there's no real defense. I then made a half assed case on someone else relatively short before the deadline. I feel like this is very similar to what bunnies did here.
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