TL Mafia LXVII: Storm Mafia 2
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On July 08 2014 03:10 IAmRobik wrote: Did you read the damn rules batsnacks? Also, Banks expressed super duper excitement to play this game -- his absence thus far is unnerving Did I break a rule? Sorry I just got here. | ||
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On July 08 2014 03:11 IAmRobik wrote: Also, this statement is like the biggest catch 22. Didn't you call me mafia that game because I was getting upset and angry like I did in Order, where I was also getting super upset/agitated and angry. You can't have it both ways doofus. Order was the game I was talking about I don't think there was another game? | ||
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Being upset/angry about being scum read isn't the same as being a dick. I don't know I don't think you were being a dick any more than I was. | ||
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On July 08 2014 03:17 IAmRobik wrote: Oh, it wasn't you. Anyway, I really don't like being called scum incorrectly. Any focus towards me is bad for town because that means we are focusing on a towny instead of focusing on scum Yeah you say stuff like that a lot in the games I've played with you as both alignments. In the one game I played when you were mafia though (Order) you were a lot more upset when someone called you mafia early. Not in the sense that you were being a dick, but in the sense that you were genuinely upset/angry/nervous or something. I don't think you are posting differently from then because "don't be a dick" is in the rules this game. | ||
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On July 08 2014 03:25 IAmRobik wrote: So am I town or am I mafia. You're really not being clear about what you're trying to say. (The correct answer is "I think you're town", so that you can get post-game props for being right) On July 04 2014 09:07 Palmar wrote: There may be more than 2 factions in the game. | ||
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On July 08 2014 03:29 IAmRobik wrote: That doesn't answer my question, unless you're implying that I'm 3rd party, which would be an asinine assumption to make at this point in the game -- unless, of course, you have some justification for why you think that. You weren't asking a question. | ||
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On July 08 2014 03:35 IAmRobik wrote: I missed a question mark... I don't know. You're posting differently from last game you played as mafia whatever you are. | ||
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On July 08 2014 05:40 ExO_ wrote: It might be boring, but it's what I prefer. Instead of bullshitting like some people, I'm not going to stir up shit on day 1, that'll be based on nothing. It's silly and doesn't help town. There are some people here who are able to read players day 1, I'm not one of them. So while you may not like it, it's hardly indicative of my alignment, and as I said is consistent with my town player in the other mafia games I've played here on TL. If that's your basis for a scum read on me, then I think perhaps you may consider that you aren't one of the people that can read and find mafia on day 1. Which people here can read players day 1? | ||
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HiroPro come to the thread so me and you can have a conversation about the implications of this game having "so many posts." Normally I'd say I'm not switching my vote until you come talk but with the amount of catching up I have to do and less than 24 hours to go, who knows. | ||
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On July 09 2014 09:48 iamperfection wrote: Hiro is just one of several players that have done jack shit this game. Why does he interest you so much. Because Hiro he only posted once. All the other lurkers have approx. ten times that (I didn't count that's probably wrong, point is, the other lurkers have more than one post). That one post was "why are there so many posts?" And I'm wondering: Why are there so many posts? What does it mean to him that there are "so many posts?" If there continues to be so many posts, will he continue to idle? If "so many posts" were to turn into "so few posts," will he post more? I can think of plenty of things I would like to ask him. | ||
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I'm going to continue to worry about it, but if you have some other ideas about what I should be worrying about you can tell me. I still have a lot to catch up on but I'm all about the food for thought. | ||
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On July 09 2014 10:03 iamperfection wrote: You can read my post where I gave a read on every player in the game. This one right? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?page=58#1141 Instantly this jumps out at me: " Forumite For someone that has gotten a lot of shit he hasn't seemed to have backed down at all. I like that he asked bill murray to vote for him that seems super townie to me like he dosnt give a shit about being voted. Plus his jumping around with votes is very attention grabbing move that scum do not like to do. My gut says he is town " I haven't read the part of the thread where this takes place yet so maybe I'm missing some important context BUT: Anyone who asks people to vote for them is scummy. So if you're town reading someone for saying "vote me" I have issues with that. I agree with the suspicion on damdred though. His posting is really careful and thorough like he's trying not to make mistakes and give people ammunition against him. Reading his filter, looking at this post: On July 08 2014 05:16 Damdred wrote: I saw something interesting that I wanted to comment on, forgive me for not entering the thread with a hi everyone i got a lot of reading to do lol. I decided to participate with something that was interesting to me someone was giving a few reads and making themselves look like a townie. I don't think this is a good reason for you to dislike me. He's treading really, really lightly and a lot of his posts are like that. Careful, apologetic. And the "lol" is out of place. His posts are impeccably formatted; he doesn't even use contractions, but somehow a random "lol" shows up. | ||
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On July 09 2014 11:16 HaruRH wrote: Don't think you should even think about lurkers now. Just wait for n1 and if lurkers get vigi shotted, we know they exist. If not, they still can be lynched d2. That's reasonable but I still think it's a good idea to at least try to pressure him to talk. | ||
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On July 09 2014 11:33 HaruRH wrote: Why do you still want him to talk? If he is lurking to this extent, he probably isn't reading the thread at all. All your pressure votes are useless, its like talking to a dead body Except one is necrophillia No necrophilia is a sexual paraphilia. Talking to a dead body isn't necrophilia. | ||
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On July 10 2014 11:04 HiroPro wrote: sup. I read the thread. anyway, I think you guys are missing the boat on VE. I'm more interested in how VE went from saying that he wasn't interested in lynching anyone who was active to lynching the second-most active player in this game (iamperfection). The reasons that he gave don't appear very strong at all and he only said anything about the guy when sloosh prompted him to. No you didn't. | ||
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On July 10 2014 12:24 HiroPro wrote: Are you really that upset that I ignored you? lol. What? | ||
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On July 10 2014 12:34 HiroPro wrote: well you seem a little obsessed with me. I assumed you were annoyed I didn't bother discussing the "implications of this game having 'so many posts'". Why would you think I would be annoyed about that? | ||
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On July 10 2014 12:39 HiroPro wrote: because you said that I was lying about something that you have no knowledge as to whether or not I've done. The only thing I can get from that is that you were expecting me to acknowledge you when I started playing. Will you do me a favor and quote what you think I said you were lying about? | ||
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Is it because you didn't read the thread? | ||
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On July 10 2014 12:46 HiroPro wrote: I think I'm going to go back to ignoring everyone. | ||
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On July 10 2014 12:55 kushm4sta wrote: im unconvinced of either of your towninesses. What is your conviction then, if not our towniness? | ||
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On July 11 2014 02:27 Corazon wrote: I'm just gonna vote for myself because I don't feel like playing anymore. Later Never suffer a martyr to live. ##vote Corazon | ||
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OBIWAN SAID: " some people have pointed out that ritoky is forced, and i agree, but i do think that its really early to be forming some kind of read on him at this stage because people call him weird for the exact same reason every game. " " nb the reason nobody is listening to your ritoky case is because the ritoky case ends up being the exact same thing people push him for every game. " | ||
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On July 11 2014 10:49 slOosh wrote: Hey bats, you can use the "quote" function (found top right corner of posts) to get instant formatted timestamped quotes, just so you know. You've played with the group right? Could you give me a general feels of ritoky, and if what obiwan said is legitimately something that happens or not? I'm posting on a mobile device and multiple quotes are more difficult than their worth. I played with Obiwan in Order and Cell mafia (at least I think he was in Cell mafia) and his game was pretty much identical to here. He lurks and randomly chimes in with some aloof comments. Ritoky was more active in Order and Cell. In cell he was trolly but not in a bad way it worked great. In Lrder he got frustrated and fake claimed cop and it was a huge disaster. | ||
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On July 11 2014 10:49 yamato77 wrote: batsnacks seemed to have more actual input last game, whoever misguided The school I work at is getting tablets (400 iPads) for the students this year and I'm handling the entire deployment by myself. This has been about an 80 hour week for me trying to get this finished before school starts in August. | ||
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On July 11 2014 11:18 ritoky wrote: has anyone not posted yet at all this day phase? would like to confirm that they are actually alive by voting on them. also, wtf, why did a blue role dq himself? He was upset. | ||
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Are there any active cases I can sheep other than Vivex's on HiroPro? That one isn't making sense to me. | ||
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But I'll understand if no one wants to wait for me. | ||
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First, there is this: On July 04 2014 09:07 Palmar wrote: You will not receive any information you don’t need. You will not know if you were roleblocked, saved, investigated, visited or whether or not any of your actions had their desired effects or not. You can ask, but if I did not send you any information, you probably shouldn’t receive any. Then this: On July 11 2014 08:18 Bill Murray wrote: I was roleblocked last night Okay, so Bill Murray was roleblocked last night. Since players are not notified when they are role blocked, the only way Bill Murray would know this is if his action didn't go through. Alright so Bill Murray was roleblocked and he knows he was roleblocked because his action never went through. But then, this: On July 11 2014 17:35 Bill Murray wrote: I tracked Sinani to Koshi last night. How? He could not have tracked Sinani to Koshi last night if he was roleblocked. Even if there is a weird role in this game like an un-block-able tracker, Bill Murray would never know he was blocked. Yet: On July 11 2014 21:07 sinani206 wrote: didn't see the need to claim this early but yeah i can connect two people; i chose robik and koshi, robik died and it got deflected to prp bm you're fucken dumb So why is Bill Murray right? Theory: Bill Murray is a tracker and lied about being roleblocked, but why would anyone do that? It took him 10 minutes to go from claiming roleblock to claiming tracker. And if he is a tracker, why claim in the first place? If I were a tracker, and I tracked sinani to koshi, I would assume that sinani was a town power role, probably another tracker because of this post: On July 09 2014 02:50 sinani206 wrote: oh that. i decided it was shitty and you're too hard to read day one I would have thought that sinani gave up on making a case and just decided to track koshi instead. So if sinani is a town power role, which he has since claimed mason, why did Bill Murray out him in the first place? Exposing sinani would not have helped town no matter what sinani's role was. Even if he thought sinani was mafia, he would have been better off tracking him another night to try and trace him to a kill. I don't think Bill Murray was in any danger of being lynched so he wasn't trying to save himself by claiming. So why then? His actions make zero sense. | ||
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On July 12 2014 06:50 batsnacks wrote: Could I ask you guys to wait another 4 hours before you hammer mderg? I won't be home for work until then. I think there's a lot of good info especially in the last 5 pages and I would appreciate the opportunity to comment on it. But I'll understand if no one wants to wait for me. You just almost got me killed | ||
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On July 13 2014 11:56 Damdred wrote: Why are you so stuck on me that you refuse to get any information about anyone else? You are tunneling me right now, and it feels kinda scummy Maybe he feels like you're the easiest target? | ||
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The only thing I'm worried about is if kush is another operator and was connecting sinani with someone else last night. So if someone got connected with sinani last night, they need to speak up. Otherwise we vote kush. ##Vote: kushm4sta | ||
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"Because isn't there a world in which BM is baiting us to lynch our vigi?" Isn't a possibility. | ||
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On July 14 2014 07:22 ritoky wrote: yes, there's a possibility that kush thought sinani's claim was bs and shot him. that is a possible world. i mean, if both KP weren't mafia KP; i thought prp was more town than sinani the entire game, so of the two if i were vig, the more likely shot would have been sinani. do you think both KP were mafia KP? Koshi and prplhz both confirmed they were connected. Why is there a possibility that anyone thought sinani was lying? | ||
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On July 14 2014 07:33 ritoky wrote: do you think both KP last night were mafia KP? I am certain mafia killed sinani. I would be shocked and appalled if town killed prplhz. | ||
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On July 14 2014 07:48 ritoky wrote: Then what do you make of n1? When there was only 1 mafia KP? I don't know, maybe there's a doctor? Maybe there's a survivor? Just because only 1 person died doesn't mean both KP weren't used. Do you really think town killed either sinani or prplhz? | ||
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On July 07 2014 20:37 Palmar wrote: Send your questions to the hosts. Do NOT ask questions in the thread. | ||
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On July 14 2014 11:18 Toadesstern wrote: why wouldn't I be fine with mafia losing even if he calls me their friend That is the question I asked, isn't it? | ||
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On July 14 2014 11:34 Toadesstern wrote: like I said, as long as noone else believes him and town gets to win he can call me whatever the fuck he wants to call me as long as it's not a violation against TL rules. Really you're going to bring in the rules? | ||
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On July 14 2014 11:57 Toadesstern wrote: and if you want to lynch me for thinking BM scumslipped and thus being wrong go ahead. I'm not going to defend against that as long as you're not showing where I have a mafiaagenda I'm clearly pushing that isn't "Toad was wrong" because that's all you're saying. Quote what I was saying. You can't. I haven't said anything. | ||
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On July 14 2014 12:00 VisceraEyes wrote: Like I think Toad is town - but whatever. I'll reevaluate tomorrow maybe. Yeah whatever, maybe, you know? Like, I don't know. Whatever, you know? Things and stuff. | ||
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On July 14 2014 12:11 VisceraEyes wrote: I told you I wasn't here-here bish wat u want? I'll speak coherently later, because apparently it's useless to talk at night or whatever. You didn't respond to the second part of my post. | ||
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For anyone else: If you're a cop that checks for alignments, feel free to check me though that'd obviously be a wasted check. | ||
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Can you quote any specific non-serious posts from me? I bet you can't. | ||
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On July 14 2014 12:36 Toadesstern wrote: I would have figured there's a better way to go about it than to copy & past something someone else said if your goal was to look like you're serious. First you accuse me of not being serious. Next you accuse me of copy pasting. I'm left wondering, what next after that? Obviously you have no limits. | ||
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On July 14 2014 12:31 batsnacks wrote: Can you quote any specific non-serious posts from me? I bet you can't. I noticed you couldn't quote anything, btw. | ||
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On July 14 2014 12:40 Toadesstern wrote: I do not have limits. That's why I'm awake at 5:40 am, re-watching nyaruko-san because too bored. That sounds like a personal problem. Especially since EVO is going on. | ||
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On July 14 2014 12:43 Toadesstern wrote: I don't quote when I think it's obvious who I'm talking to. Be happy I don't leave out other stuff I think is obvious Oh look I'm being taunted. It's about time. What other stuff? | ||
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"Be happy I AM LEAVING out other stuff I think is obvious" | ||
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On July 14 2014 12:49 Toadesstern wrote: how about you spit out the beans if you've got something to say. Otherwise I'm fine just chatting like this But I am SO CURIOUS about the "other stuff." Why make us wait? | ||
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On July 14 2014 12:56 Toadesstern wrote: nothing game related. I said I'm re-watching nyaruko-san right? It's quite commong to leave out stuff that is obvious in japanese phrases like the subjects or objects or whatever else really of a phrase so you're left with a lot less. So there is no "other stuff" after all. You were just threatening like there was because, Japan, or something. | ||
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On July 14 2014 13:04 slOosh wrote: I dunno what you guys are talking about but I don't follow. Moving on, ritoky's approach to the BM / kush thing: I don't like it. Seems like a super convoluted approach to what I thought was very simple. Other people also had misgivings, but ritoky is like, waaaaayy off the mark on this one and talking about setup and 3rd parties out of nowhere. Agree / disagree? Ritoky tried to tell me town shot sinani. What more needs to be said? | ||
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On July 14 2014 13:07 Toadesstern wrote: agree. I said the same when he posted it and told him it's as simple as "you either believe BM or you don't. There's probably KP missing on n1 but certainly not the other way around" Why are you trying to talk to sloosh when you're not done with me yet? You're NOT done with me yet. | ||
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If it's casual why did you threaten me? | ||
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On July 14 2014 13:14 Toadesstern wrote: you got the explanation. You still think it was meant to be threatening after hearing that it was about grammar? You threatened me Toad. Here: On July 14 2014 12:43 Toadesstern wrote: I don't quote when I think it's obvious who I'm talking to. Be happy I don't leave out other stuff I think is obvious Why don't you stop leaving out other stuff you this is "obvious?" | ||
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On July 15 2014 10:44 layabout wrote: your recent posting is over a page of conversational posts that are sort of attacking toad and you place a vote with nothing to support it it's hardly any better This isn't directed at me, is it? | ||
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I'm voting ritoky because he tried to convince me kush was the vig, and that kush shot sinani. | ||
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I just think it's weird how you're nice all the time. | ||
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On July 15 2014 13:24 ritoky wrote: well seeing as how I am VT, you would be right in that regard. i just find this whole batsnacks situation strange. i am guessing we got masoned together, he is here the entire phase, posts tons in the thread (most about lynching me); posts not a single message in our thing where we can talk to eachother, and doesn't even seem to mention it. why hide that it happened if he thinks i am scum? You know who else didn't post during our connection? You. | ||
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It's completely meaningless. | ||
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On July 15 2014 13:28 ritoky wrote: i literally just logged on for the first time this phase and posted in it, then in the thread. the hell are you even talking about? The thread expired at dawn. You were a little late. | ||
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On July 14 2014 07:22 ritoky wrote: yes, there's a possibility that kush thought sinani's claim was bs and shot him. that is a possible world. i mean, if both KP weren't mafia KP; i thought prp was more town than sinani the entire game, so of the two if i were vig, the more likely shot would have been sinani. do you think both KP were mafia KP? | ||
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There is at least one more operator. That operator connected me and ritoky last night. Ritoky is mafia. | ||
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On July 15 2014 13:53 ritoky wrote: you on the other hand, don't seem to do a lot of information giving, you do a lot of asking and taking and not much reciprocating. i had read you as town cuz of this: but now that i go through your filter, these two posts bug me: On July 14 2014 12:13 Toadesstern wrote: as a tip for BM, I'm an actual VT don't try to track me you won't get anything. The reason I'm saying that is because I think it's actually somewhat likely that he'd target me otherwise. For anyone else: If you're a cop that checks for alignments, feel free to check me though that'd obviously be a wasted check. | ||
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On July 15 2014 13:59 ritoky wrote: are you trying to be convoluted? because you're succeeding. idk, are you trying to be contrived? because you're succeeding. | ||
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On July 15 2014 14:05 ritoky wrote: this isn't even a good attempt at trolling. you're just becoming annoying now, gonna take damn's advice and focus on other people in the game. good luck with that | ||
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On July 15 2014 14:09 ritoky wrote: so are trying to antagonize me into dqing myself? or are you just normally this way? 24/7/365 plus overtime and leap years | ||
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Ritoky probably isn't mafia | ||
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On July 19 2014 07:22 Bill Murray wrote: can you blame me man??? i have a guy you all want to lynch no visiting and you all are all like LETS NOT LISTEN TO THE OBS WHO SEES THEM MAKING 2 FACT... MAYBE WE SHOULD MAKE SCOUTS.... that's what I was thinking little did I know they were making wraiths tho so it's all good as long as you all forgive me Scouts don't beat wraiths though | ||
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On July 19 2014 15:45 batsnacks wrote: It doesn't 100% guarantee my innocence, but it is still evidence, which is more than anyone else has. | ||
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On July 18 2014 13:06 Bill Murray wrote: GOD I should have listened to you guys I faked my track on Exo.. was a gambit... | ||
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On July 19 2014 16:41 yamato77 wrote: rofl, dude, you don't understand mafia + Show Spoiler + | ||
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noun 1. the feeling of sorrow and compassion caused by the suffering and misfortunes of others. 2. a cause for regret or disappointment. I haven't suffered or experienced misfortune so I assume you are feeling cause for regret or disappointment. What regrets do you have? | ||
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On July 19 2014 17:31 yamato77 wrote: That is outdated Just like your "reads" I see. | ||
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On July 20 2014 07:05 slOosh wrote: And if this game has a stupid cultist I'm gonna be slightly upset. Like, ever so mildly. If this game had a cultist it would have been over already especially considering no cultists have flipped. | ||
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On July 20 2014 12:24 slOosh wrote: I think ... if you are silent in the QTs and silent in thread ... you really don't care about the game. Ok So you don't disagree with me. | ||
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On July 20 2014 12:56 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Well I was banned dude. I am back now, ask and I will answer; ask reasonably or my answer may be Uncomfortable + Show Spoiler + I am kidding. I won't hold the thread hostage or pull that stuff again. Also I would probably just... Not answer I'm going to vote you unless you respond to my questions. | ||
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YOU HEAR THAT SLAM | ||
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So he thinks Wile E. is town. Scum have perfect information. Ergo, slOosh is scum. QED. | ||
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So mafia is either slam or exo_, which, that's an easy choice. | ||
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If another two people die tonight, town can't reach a majority without my vote (assuming I'm still alive). And it's going on you. | ||
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On July 21 2014 12:33 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Tre bien; in that case, scum has nothing to worry about. They can lynch between us. Or even no lynch. But this is hypothetical. No, town can still reach a majority without your vote. Because you're mafia. | ||
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But I don't think you will vote me unless you're mafia because if you do, you lose, and you don't want to lose. | ||
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Things I wish had been different: modkill removing the two third parties, Cora suicide, me forgetting an underscore, exo afk. | ||
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On July 22 2014 03:03 IAmRobik wrote: BMs play this game was so different from Order, it was silly. Anyone in Order should have just insta-lynched him Everyone's play who was in Order was different from Order. | ||
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50 Bats 07-08-2014 12:13 PM ET (US) I bet you 1 trillion esports dollars that we can do nothing and they will still lynch an active player. As long as this many townies are lurking we are pretty much unlynchable. | ||
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