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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 04 2014 02:37 GMT
#8
/in

Let's roll.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2014 16:55 GMT
#347
What the fuck why are there 18 pages already? T.T
Gonna go read
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2014 17:43 GMT
#373
Alright I'm just going to go over a few things I noted from reading through. If you guys want me to talk about another player (or expand my thoughts on one player), simply ask away.

Koshi: Koshi's just being Koshi. I've never liked the 2% of effort he puts into Mafia but I can't crucify him for that. He's actually made a few decent points trying to keep people honest about their reads. Even if I thought he was the scummiest player in the game, it wouldn't be worth it to go after him at this point.

Forumite: I can understand Forumite's meta-read on Prp. I've done the same thing with Marv just to be able to focus on other targets. His vote on Koshi seems simply misguided because he's just voting Koshi for being Koshi, something that an over-zealous townie would do. I also disagree about his point with getting a lynch done within 24 hours, but I don't see anything forced or fabricated in his explanation.

Toad: I'm slightly more concerned about Toad. His Prp vote looks absolutely terrible to me because he voted him for being "depressing" and "not optomistic" about town's chances when in all fairness, Prp is probably right about how this town is going to fare and realistic-Corazon would have to agree with Prp. It's even worse that when questioned, Toad goes into this semi-long rant about how town is just sitting on their asses and he is the only one trying and blah blah blah. While this may have been a town tell in early 2013, it just gives me the feeling that he is trying way too hard to look townie and not really being genuine when it comes to scumhunting. Yes, some of my reasoning is due to the fact that we have different views on how good town can be in TL Mafia, but my scum read on Toad isn't terribly strong and I do appreciate the fact that he is at least contributing, which cannot be said for a lot of other people.

Robik: Oh, where do I start with this fool. Has he said one important thing this entire game? All of his scum/town reads are being thrown out with little to no reasoning and his buddying of Iamp after Iamp suspected him looks very scummy to me. He's just shitting up the thread and is my #1 scum candidate right now (which doesn't mean much since a lot of people have not posted too much, but if people continue to lurk/not scream scum to me, I'd like to lynch Robik today).


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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2014 17:45 GMT
#375
Also, Yamato hasn't tried to tunnel anyone yet. Just throwing that out there.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2014 17:52 GMT
#383
##Vote: IAmRobik
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2014 18:08 GMT
#401
On July 08 2014 02:43 Corazon wrote:
Alright I'm just going to go over a few things I noted from reading through. If you guys want me to talk about another player (or expand my thoughts on one player), simply ask away.

Koshi: Koshi's just being Koshi. I've never liked the 2% of effort he puts into Mafia but I can't crucify him for that. He's actually made a few decent points trying to keep people honest about their reads. Even if I thought he was the scummiest player in the game, it wouldn't be worth it to go after him at this point.

Forumite: I can understand Forumite's meta-read on Prp. I've done the same thing with Marv just to be able to focus on other targets. His vote on Koshi seems simply misguided because he's just voting Koshi for being Koshi, something that an over-zealous townie would do. I also disagree about his point with getting a lynch done within 24 hours, but I don't see anything forced or fabricated in his explanation.

Toad: I'm slightly more concerned about Toad. His Prp vote looks absolutely terrible to me because he voted him for being "depressing" and "not optomistic" about town's chances when in all fairness, Prp is probably right about how this town is going to fare and realistic-Corazon would have to agree with Prp. It's even worse that when questioned, Toad goes into this semi-long rant about how town is just sitting on their asses and he is the only one trying and blah blah blah. While this may have been a town tell in early 2013, it just gives me the feeling that he is trying way too hard to look townie and not really being genuine when it comes to scumhunting. Yes, some of my reasoning is due to the fact that we have different views on how good town can be in TL Mafia, but my scum read on Toad isn't terribly strong and I do appreciate the fact that he is at least contributing, which cannot be said for a lot of other people.

Robik: Oh, where do I start with this fool. Has he said one important thing this entire game? All of his scum/town reads are being thrown out with little to no reasoning and his buddying of Iamp after Iamp suspected him looks very scummy to me. He's just shitting up the thread and is my #1 scum candidate right now (which doesn't mean much since a lot of people have not posted too much, but if people continue to lurk/not scream scum to me, I'd like to lynch Robik today).

Does this make me town?

On a more serious note, I'm not going to say someone is 100% scum 5-6 hours into a game. That's just stupid. I refuse to tunnel someone when not all of the players have even posted.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2014 18:31 GMT
#429
On July 08 2014 03:15 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:08 Corazon wrote:
On July 08 2014 02:43 Corazon wrote:
Alright I'm just going to go over a few things I noted from reading through. If you guys want me to talk about another player (or expand my thoughts on one player), simply ask away.

Koshi: Koshi's just being Koshi. I've never liked the 2% of effort he puts into Mafia but I can't crucify him for that. He's actually made a few decent points trying to keep people honest about their reads. Even if I thought he was the scummiest player in the game, it wouldn't be worth it to go after him at this point.

Forumite: I can understand Forumite's meta-read on Prp. I've done the same thing with Marv just to be able to focus on other targets. His vote on Koshi seems simply misguided because he's just voting Koshi for being Koshi, something that an over-zealous townie would do. I also disagree about his point with getting a lynch done within 24 hours, but I don't see anything forced or fabricated in his explanation.

Toad: I'm slightly more concerned about Toad. His Prp vote looks absolutely terrible to me because he voted him for being "depressing" and "not optomistic" about town's chances when in all fairness, Prp is probably right about how this town is going to fare and realistic-Corazon would have to agree with Prp. It's even worse that when questioned, Toad goes into this semi-long rant about how town is just sitting on their asses and he is the only one trying and blah blah blah. While this may have been a town tell in early 2013, it just gives me the feeling that he is trying way too hard to look townie and not really being genuine when it comes to scumhunting. Yes, some of my reasoning is due to the fact that we have different views on how good town can be in TL Mafia, but my scum read on Toad isn't terribly strong and I do appreciate the fact that he is at least contributing, which cannot be said for a lot of other people.

Robik: Oh, where do I start with this fool. Has he said one important thing this entire game? All of his scum/town reads are being thrown out with little to no reasoning and his buddying of Iamp after Iamp suspected him looks very scummy to me. He's just shitting up the thread and is my #1 scum candidate right now (which doesn't mean much since a lot of people have not posted too much, but if people continue to lurk/not scream scum to me, I'd like to lynch Robik today).

Does this make me town?

On a more serious note, I'm not going to say someone is 100% scum 5-6 hours into a game. That's just stupid. I refuse to tunnel someone when not all of the players have even posted.

the point is that you're talking about a bunch of things that might or might not be something. I disagree with pretty much everything but that's not the point here.

You yourself are taking back EVERYTHING you said in your own post like you're scared to commit to something.
*Here's a thing about toad I got but I am totally not sure about it... probably not a thing... don't mind me"
I get that you can't be sure right now, I'm not sure about everything I say either and in fact Robik made a fuzz about that as well but you're doing that not with a couple things but with every single thing you said in that post.

Why are you so afraid of how people perceive you that you aren't even ballsy enough to have a single straight forward line in your post that you DON'T take back in the next line?

What the fuck? I didn't take back anything I said.
You need to understand that this game is not static. It is an ecolving game and I'm not going to say "I'm 100% voting for XXX today". That's just terrible town play.

Would you think I am town if I only talked about one person and simply voted for them without reading any other posts besides my target's?

Let's analyze what I wrote about you:

-I think your vote on Prp is scummy
-I think your whole "town is sitting on their ass and I'm the only one trying" is scummy

At this point, I could think "Wow, Toad looks really scummy to me" However, I also want to avoid being bias and tunneled, which is not good for town if I just sit here and tunnel you to death because that would take away from the actual scumhunting. So, I think some more and realize:

-Some of my suspicion on Toad is due to the fact that I am disagreeing with him on opinions (such as the opinion of TL Mafia)

So now, my first reason for thinking you are suspicious is a little diluted because of the potential flaws in my logic. It does not mean that I think you are town, not anywhere close.

In the end, I need to find who I think is the most likely to flip scum. Being definitive yet allowing the game to still happen and perhaps change my opinion is the approach that I am taking.

Quoting me and putting my words in red does not make me scum. Try harder please.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2014 18:33 GMT
#430
On July 08 2014 03:25 iamperfection wrote:
Iamrobik is like the most active poster i dont think he is scum and should only reassess this if on day 6 when im long dead he is still around. worry about it then. Discussion on iamrobik being scum can stop.

What the hell Iamp? The 4-5 posts in my filter have 30 times as much content and purpose as his entire filter.
If all I did was post meme's, one-liners, and rage posts whenever someone called me scum, would you REALLY count that as activity?
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2014 18:44 GMT
#435
Forumite, I know I am not Toad but I hope you will answer me anyways

You said this a bit earlier:

On July 07 2014 23:55 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 23:52 iamperfection wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:51 Forumite wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:38 prplhz wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

don't really have any reads yet, a few tentative town reads is all.
k, I don´t care about townreads unless we´re close to the lynch.

On July 07 2014 23:37 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, how do we feel about forumite's first post. Kinda resembles Koshi's with a tad more content. But the content smells bullshitty. I lean town nevertheless even though I'm not certain I agree with any of the conclusions at this moment
What conclusions? My read on Koshi? My read on prplhz? My thoughts on lynching early or risk a rushed lynch or a no lynch? Do you enjoy the voting frenzy 5 minutes before deadline followed by yet another town lynch, because I don´t.

On July 07 2014 23:36 Koshi wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

The fact you say I am ruining the thread hurts me more than you voting me. I am the entertainment value here.
Your empty posts fill the thread and make it harder to read the thread and see posts of real value. It´s spamming and anti-town, which makes you scum, so you have to die.

about 75% of the posts have been useless including mine why pick koshi over anyone else.
He´s actively creating more useless posts beside his own by making others go along with his games and riddles.


Do you still feel like this is true and do you feel that Koshi's posts have been the most useless so far? (Because I have a different opinion as stated earlier).
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2014 18:48 GMT
#438
On July 08 2014 03:45 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:33 Corazon wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:25 iamperfection wrote:
Iamrobik is like the most active poster i dont think he is scum and should only reassess this if on day 6 when im long dead he is still around. worry about it then. Discussion on iamrobik being scum can stop.

What the hell Iamp? The 4-5 posts in my filter have 30 times as much content and purpose as his entire filter.
If all I did was post memes, one-liners, and rage posts whenever someone called me scum, would you REALLY count that as activity?

i was just talking about that 1 post the part about toad bothers me the most as i think a townie would be more likely to post nothing at all instead saying in a long convoluted way that they don't know.

Crying about other people shit posting doesn't really help your position.

Do I even have a position? No one (besides Koshi) has commented on any of my reads so far. I'd love to have a position but you're not helping me out here

There's Toad but he doesn't have an actual reason to vote for me so I don't really count him.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2014 18:57 GMT
#442
On July 08 2014 03:52 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:48 Corazon wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:45 iamperfection wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:33 Corazon wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:25 iamperfection wrote:
Iamrobik is like the most active poster i dont think he is scum and should only reassess this if on day 6 when im long dead he is still around. worry about it then. Discussion on iamrobik being scum can stop.

What the hell Iamp? The 4-5 posts in my filter have 30 times as much content and purpose as his entire filter.
If all I did was post memes, one-liners, and rage posts whenever someone called me scum, would you REALLY count that as activity?

i was just talking about that 1 post the part about toad bothers me the most as i think a townie would be more likely to post nothing at all instead saying in a long convoluted way that they don't know.

Crying about other people shit posting doesn't really help your position.

Do I even have a position? No one (besides Koshi) has commented on any of my reads so far. I'd love to have a position but you're not helping me out here

There's Toad but he doesn't have an actual reason to vote for me so I don't really count him.


You were certainly backpaddeling a lot in that post. I never said you ACTUALLY went ahead and boldy claimed that you're taking back what you said, but your phrasing made it unconsciously so that it's happening. That is actually a very strong mafia trait. Mafia doesn't want to be held responsible for mislynches.

Well why don't you wait under after a mislynch to use your argument against me?
Your argument is certainly valid if (hypothetically) Robin were to flip town. You would go back, point that post out and call me out for being flippy-floppy.

You can't say "this is really scummy because it gives you the opportunity to flip-flop" without me actually flip-flopping.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2014 19:00 GMT
#444
On July 08 2014 03:57 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 03:48 Corazon wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:45 iamperfection wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:33 Corazon wrote:
On July 08 2014 03:25 iamperfection wrote:
Iamrobik is like the most active poster i dont think he is scum and should only reassess this if on day 6 when im long dead he is still around. worry about it then. Discussion on iamrobik being scum can stop.

What the hell Iamp? The 4-5 posts in my filter have 30 times as much content and purpose as his entire filter.
If all I did was post memes, one-liners, and rage posts whenever someone called me scum, would you REALLY count that as activity?

i was just talking about that 1 post the part about toad bothers me the most as i think a townie would be more likely to post nothing at all instead saying in a long convoluted way that they don't know.

Crying about other people shit posting doesn't really help your position.

Do I even have a position? No one (besides Koshi) has commented on any of my reads so far. I'd love to have a position but you're not helping me out here

There's Toad but he doesn't have an actual reason to vote for me so I don't really count him.


Some people have commented on some of your reads. However it just feels like you are trying to make yourself look like town right now.

Koshi said he agreed with my Robin read, disagreed with the others.
Robin flipped his shit.

That's only one person, really.
I'm just trying to get into the game, that is all.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2014 19:04 GMT
#447
You could always just take another one of my posts and put it in red.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2014 19:14 GMT
#456
On July 08 2014 02:52 IAmRobik wrote:
WTF is wrong with you people? Have you seen me play mafia? Have you seen me play town. They're quite different. Learn to read me or just don't read me at all, but don't you dare call me scum when I'm town. That's rude and wrong and just makes you look like those animals that say HEE HAW HEE HAW

Iamp are you just like not reading this guy's posts or...?
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2014 19:19 GMT
#460
1. I explained that in that same post.
2. Already answered.
3a Everything
3b All of them
3c Actually start playing the game

P.S. Sorry for calling you Robin, mixed up your name.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2014 19:23 GMT
#465
On July 08 2014 04:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 04:19 Corazon wrote:
1. I explained that in that same post.
2. Already answered.
3a Everything
3b All of them
3c Actually start playing the game

P.S. Sorry for calling you Robin, mixed up your name.

You can't answer like this. I call BS. I want concrete answers or I will absolutely push the living shit out of you until you're dead

Well if you give me a genuine read/posts to work on, I will gladly start treating you like any other player in this game.
Unfortunately, you haven't done so. So I'm just going to continue not taking you seriously and fry bigger fish.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2014 19:24 GMT
#466
On July 08 2014 04:22 Koshi wrote:
Cora do you know why Vivax wrote this?
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 01:57 Vivax wrote:
##Shoot Corazon


He has a happy trigger finger?
My heart actually stopped b/c I thought he actually shot me, but Palmar didn't post that I was dead so I felt a little better.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2014 19:31 GMT
#472
On July 08 2014 04:25 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 04:24 Corazon wrote:
On July 08 2014 04:22 Koshi wrote:
Cora do you know why Vivax wrote this?
On July 08 2014 01:57 Vivax wrote:
##Shoot Corazon


He has a happy trigger finger?
My heart actually stopped b/c I thought he actually shot me, but Palmar didn't post that I was dead so I felt a little better.

But why you?

If I knew, I'd tell you. But I don't
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 07 2014 19:34 GMT
#475
Yamato, are you going to expand on VE/Vivax interaction? It was something I noted as well but I don't want to steal your thunder.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 08 2014 05:09 GMT
#801
How hell-bent are you guys on lynching Forumite? To be honest I can't see myself voting for him. Many of his actions and statements so far (such as his meta-read on Prp and his statement that he can't read Toad objectively once Toad started attacking him) are statements/decisions that I myself would probably do as town. Thinking about it, that could explain why he's been under so much pressure...

Has he really been the scummiest player in the thread so far?
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