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On July 09 2014 16:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote: depends on what you give me in return. Anything you want but anal. Could you give reads on these people? Try to say smart things. You don't need to do but any1 would help. HaruRH, ritoky, Bill Murray, HiroPro, layabout, kushm4sta, Alakaslam, batsnacks | ||
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On July 09 2014 16:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote: ritoky, hiro, layabout, and slam are all null. some people have pointed out that ritoky is forced, and i agree, but i do think that its really early to be forming some kind of read on him at this stage because people call him weird for the exact same reason every game. Why is slam null? His post are pretty good tbh. There are gems in there. could you try to say anything more about layabout? | ||
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It is really bad to lynch a lurker here because the names on top are not bothered to figure out these lurkers. There are probably more names to be added to this list but it is a good start. I still need to reread iamp and see if he bothers to read small filters in other games. He seems to not bother at all here. Toad can not be lynched. He is without doubt one of the most valuable players here. Same for SlOosh. Both these players are doing really smart scumhunting. SlOosh focusses on small things but he says very smart things about them. Saying these 2 are scum is just paranoia that good players are scum. I think I can name 6 more people that should not be lynched. I am not sure. I think I can. You are playing really well btw Slam. I hope you do it for the Glory of Town. Again. I will never lynch you (early game) if you continue like that. You know you are playing like Chezinu atm? Lots of riddles and in between good stuff. Chezinu finds scum between the ones who say he is unreadable. Might be a tactic that works for you as well in the future. | ||
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On July 09 2014 12:57 Corazon wrote: Alright, so about Iamp: Whether we lynch Iamp or not will determine how we go about this game. A majority of the players in this game have almost no filter and have no expressed their opinion whatsoever. Town will lose if this continues to be the case. Sure we will eventually vote people out, but town is going to cruise into loserville if we vote haphazardly. I'm slightly leaning towards scum on Iamp because his filter is 6 pages and only 5% of it contains statements that show what his opinions of other players are. A lot of his posts are just filler, answering questions, or one-liner stuff. There's also the issue in his reads post that the explanation of his scumread on me is weak at best (and a lot worse than the other two), yet I'm his top scum read. That makes no sense at all and it seems like he just has an agenda to get me lynched. On the other hand, Iamp does have the longest filter in the game (or at least close if Koshi's is longer) and if he is town, he will be able to actually get us far. Since I really think we should lynch into the pool of players who have not shown their reads or have weak reads that are based off of absolutely nothing, I would prefer if we not lynched Iamp today. However, if I had to choose between Iamp and a no-lynch, I would lynch Iamp. I hope that clears my stance on him. I still think a Robik lynch would be good because he's just playing like a chicken with his head cut off plus some players have actually defended Robik by saying that they think he's actually justifying his reads and that he is being "active" (which is really puzzling to me), which would put more value into a Robik lynch than one might think at first glance. This is many bullshit btw Cora. Robik filter is the longest. You are scumreading and voting him because the utter shit that is his filter. Robik has been trying to communicate with you at least 3 times now that his filter isn't utter shit and that he gives reasoning for all his reads. You are ignoring these attempts to talk with Robik. I don't really understand why you are not interested in talking to Robik to understand him, but you are advocating to let iamp survive because "biggest filter and will be useful in future". There is no reason to believe iamp will ever be useful in the future. Iamp said that we needed 10 vigis!!! After iamp said we needed 10 (!!!) vigis his contribution was being afk till Obiwan came to the thread and then asked Obiwan to please him. Obiwan did not please him at all but iamp went away again. This means that iamp still needed 10 (!!!) vigis to solve this game and he was not trying to lessen this number. Was it maybe impossible to make Obiwan talk and read him? Nope. Because in his big read post Iamp was able to read Obiwan as leaning town because this really cool guy Koshi asked Obiwan a question and Obiwan answered towny. Why can't iamp be a cool guy? Somewhere later than this post you also quoted a post of iamp saying that Robik is town and shouldn't be lynched until Day 6. You quoted this post because it was one of iamps valuable contributions, however, this contribution is literally the opposite of what you think of Robiks play. Why are you not alarmed that iamp thought at a time Robik is the most active and valuable player while you think the opposite? But the biggest issue I have with in that post is you starting with : "but town is going to cruise into loserville if we vote haphazardly." into defending Iamp into saying iamp is actually not a bad lynch. I don't like that Cora. I don't like it. | ||
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Page 1 is understable and readable. At least 5 good posts. pushing game forward. Page 2 is still pretty good in pushing game forward. Nothing wrong with it. I understand now why you like iamp. Question: The things that made iamp town for you early game, do you feel like it is the same level of play comming out of iamp right now? The big post with reads he gave. Do you have the feeling "Iamp totes my bro, we are on the same level" I will hold your future integrity and my future respect to the correctness of your answer on this question. Please be very detailed and take it serious. I want you to evaluate iamps big post. page 3 You are going hard against Kush. I am not against it rereading it now. page 4 You are going against ninjabunnies and batsnacks. I didn't understand the ninjbunnies thing back then. batsnacks pressure is not harmful. Not bad stuff. page 5 still pushing game forward tbh, there are post that clearly are doing that. still forming reads. SlOosh enters in robiks scumworld. Vivax and iamp still top towns. Robik has talked to many people in these 5 pages. page 6 is about VE and the LoL not playing thing. At the end is a nice summation of your play so far. Seems legit. Some things are different in that summation post, like the prplhz read. Also shows Robik has a clear view on the game and the players that are playing in it. page 7 - 8 is him jumping again on everything that moves. Cora bunnies are the victims. But look at all the names he quotes and interact with. Robiks play is quite simple btw. He jumps on things that happen in the thread. Always in the present. His play is super consistent. I wonder if he gets so much flak because town in general does more dumb shit than scum. So Robik jumps on town more and they get mad. I don't know. Maybe. I don't see how Robik is scum. Tell me how he is inconsistent? Cora talk to me about this post. Where am I wrong about Robik, you are sure he is doing all this with a scum motive. What is it? Why is he a chicken without head? Don't you think there are pretty valuable post in there? I see posts that push the game forward. I don't see any TMI coming from Robik. I don't see Robik defending scummates. I don't see Robik in a team is what I am saying. | ||
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Iamp puts both Cora and Damdred as scum and they both couldn't care less. Damdred is even voting the lynch that Iamp has been pushing in the thread. Damdred has been called twice town by iamp. Once when I said Damdred is a pretty nice guy Iamp added that he was also town. Second time when Robik was talking about the Crossover posting. But in his big read post Iamp calls Damdred scum and Damdred couldn't fucking care less. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA PS: Cora also loves the iamp dick. | ||
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Damnedred looking like a good lurker lynch. He hasn't given 1 good read. If people want to save iamp. There you go. That guy looks so bad. | ||
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IT IS SO FUNNY. | ||
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On July 08 2014 06:00 Damdred wrote: I have read all of the thread and have tried to keep up to date. Koshis posting annoyed me a little with the riddles and what not, even though I understand that he was trying to stir up some kind of activity (possibly) from his postings the town does not benefit from random posts that clutter up the thread. However I do think his early postings were trolling and his later ones did add some thought to the thread, Robik's postings have been interesting and he has interacted with the people outside of being random, his overall overreaction to being called scum is note worthy and could be a deflection but i'm not sure. If I was forced to name a few people that gave me interest at this moment I would go with Forumite, VE. I wouldn't say lynch them, Forumites read early on is a bit odd and his and VE call to get a majority lynch in the first 24 hrs or so troubles me. The more time we have to talk and to pry information from people the better rather than the less time. Even though day 1 is always odd in my opinion and you don't have much to go on its always good to gauge how people react. I probably wouldn't lynch exo at this point, or toads. Exo has a history of playing aloof and you can never tell much about him day one. And Toads well hes playing pretty out there and drawing some attention to himself, even though its possible hes mafia hes more likely to be checked playing this way and wouldn't work in his favor On July 09 2014 01:47 27ninjabunnies wrote: Imo: Toads cases in the beginning pages, The argument between you, prp, and Forumite. What's going on now with the wagon and spread out votes all over the place. Each of them have contributed to my read on Forumite. I think he is scummy, but he wouldn't be my lynch for today. On July 09 2014 01:39 27ninjabunnies wrote: So, I'm awake now. Ten pages, really? Where were yall when I was actually awake and not asleep. (I'm gonna type things as I read along) @VE- Babycakes? Hahaha. I need a better term of endearment than that hun. So the Koshi/Prp/Forumite conversations is super interesting. Here's what I got out of it. Koshi making cased and reads- Prp getting defensive with his whole "Omgerd, how does this make me mafia?" And Forumite with his "Omgerd, Sloosh is bad bad bad." And Koshi being like, yeah idgaf what you think. tldr; Koshi is town. I like his reasoning for sloosh being town too. Tbh, it was where my mind was at. I don't see how sloosh making a case on the already scummy Forumite is bad? Do you? The more evidence that can be used to see if a player is scum or town, the better. Forumite's defense of koshi pushing on him seemed quite a bit OMGUS and not an actual case on why he is scum. I see no basis behind it. He basically is like "Koshi is trolling. Koshi made terrible case on me. He is scum" Meh, those really aren't scum traits. I won't say Forumite is mafia, cause I'm not sure, but he is definitely on my watch list. Everything else that happened afterwards, I really don't care about. So, my lynches for today. I'd actually lynch Obiwan and Ritoky. I have a better case on Ritoky. He comes into the thread with this: Which to me seems super forced, and a lame joke from previous games. (Those who played in those games understand) Then he has a back and forth with me, and basically just peaces out. Nothing productive at all, except maybe this post with toad/yamato But even then, I don't see anything in the way of scumhunting. So ##Vote: Ritoky Also, I still have like 3 page to read, but wanted to get this out there. On July 08 2014 05:04 27ninjabunnies wrote: People I don't necessarily care for but wouldn't lynch today Vivax VE Layabout Robik Forumite Cora On July 08 2014 14:09 Corazon wrote: How hell-bent are you guys on lynching Forumite? To be honest I can't see myself voting for him. Many of his actions and statements so far (such as his meta-read on Prp and his statement that he can't read Toad objectively once Toad started attacking him) are statements/decisions that I myself would probably do as town. Thinking about it, that could explain why he's been under so much pressure... Has he really been the scummiest player in the thread so far? On July 08 2014 15:11 Corazon wrote: Because I simply don't see the argument for lynching Forumite. I think it is a terrible lynch and I hope that it stops getting momentum. My vote is on Robik and it will stay on Robik. He's done nothing to prove that he is town; he's simply trying to feign activity and feign scumhunting. Hell, his argument for voting for you was that you were not on LoL. If you want more info on why I think he's scum, just look through my filter. He's a much better lynch than Forumite. On July 09 2014 06:55 iamperfection wrote: Forumite For someone that has gotten a lot of shit he hasn't seemed to have backed down at all. I like that he asked bill murray to vote for him that seems super townie to me like he dosnt give a shit about being voted. Plus his jumping around with votes is very attention grabbing move that scum do not like to do. My gut says he is town You know what is also really funny. Iamp has never said "Forumite" in his posts. His reads post is the only time. He has 23 times Forumite in his filter, but it are all quotes in other people their posts except that 1 time. Our fucking town leader has said 1 time Forumite. 1 time 1 So I think we can agree that iamp/27nb/Cora/Damdred are not looking like sure town right? Maybe like 1 is scum? Maybe 2? Who knows? So either this Forumite is the sickest powerrole scum has. They instant lose if he dies. Or this Forumite is town and they don't want to be near his lynch. But why don't they all want to be on his lynch? All of them. But maybe the guy is scum and they are protecting him? I don't know. Really. I think Forumite plays pretty scummy. Maybe he is their powerrole. Like a vigi. Maybe double vigi? Like... I ask you to go to the filter of these 4 persons and look what they say about Forumite. There is almost nothing. And Forumite is the biggest thing in this thread. What is this? | ||
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The next days the lynches and powerroles need to be within: Forumite/iamp/27nb/Cora/Damdred/Sinani Look at Sinani, I didn't know he was a genious: + Show Spoiler + On July 08 2014 08:11 sinani206 wrote: wow games with robik in them are impossible to read On July 08 2014 08:11 sinani206 wrote: but he seems town so far On July 08 2014 13:31 sinani206 wrote: bunnies so scummy gnight friends On July 08 2014 14:17 sinani206 wrote: can someone explain the forumite wagon please lol null leaning green for me maybe idk On July 08 2014 20:23 sinani206 wrote: Guys did anyone else just realize how scummy koshi is On July 09 2014 02:50 sinani206 wrote: oh that. i decided it was shitty and you're too hard to read day one On July 09 2014 03:03 sinani206 wrote: some of your posts especially right before i posted that seemed like they could have been thought of by mafia but then there's always confirmation bias and omgus and shit and then i reread your earlygame and changed my mind no point in going into specifics now On July 09 2014 03:10 sinani206 wrote: oh nvm well might as well talk about that list oh wow thats actually not a bad list for this early prpl: town lean i can see that mindset from a green for sure iamperf: new posting style=all one liners? bats: idk how you can have a read on him already lol cav: i really want to say green lean but i have no basis so null 27nb: like i said before, scummy ritoky: scummy (lean i guess so far) On July 09 2014 03:10 sinani206 wrote: oh i forgot to say that iamperf is pretty scummy too | ||
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I am not sure that Robik buddied iamp after iamp suspected him. I really doubt that happened. Did iamp ever suspect Robik? Don't think so. | ||
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On July 09 2014 06:55 iamperfection wrote: Corazon- Seems to do more complaining than scum hunting. Seems to ask more questions than reach conclusions. Still dont like his first post and when he cried to me it seemed like he knew my alignment. Is about: On July 08 2014 03:48 Corazon wrote: Do I even have a position? No one (besides Koshi) has commented on any of my reads so far. I'd love to have a position but you're not helping me out here  There's Toad but he doesn't have an actual reason to vote for me so I don't really count him. And Cora is fine with all this? Doesn't want to lynch iamp because iamp is going to be useful? Who is this Cora you talk about Kush. Doesn't really sound like the Cora I know. ____________________ Totally unrelated I think Cora has the best filter out if the 6 I mentioned by far. Trying to read lurkers, first post about most active people. Stuffz like that. Still. Ignoring iamp. Strange stuff. | ||
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You have not yet voted this game. I am very surprised by that. You voted Kushm4fia but that didn't count and you seem to not care. You actually have a lot of scumreads so it is strange. Very different than your last towngame? We should check meta maybe later. I am not too worried about you atm. But a Cora lynch is not happening today. I don't feel it in the air. And we are almost out of oxygen. So please put down a vote between iamp/forumite/Damndred. Please. We need to see votes on the board. | ||
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I was listening to Kush but I don't really know why. | ||
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I need you votes now! I have put the most time in this game. The most words. The most scumhunting. I am now your D1 vote leader. The lynchlist is iamp/Forumite/Damdred/27nb/Cora New names can be added with an awesome case for 5 more hours. We do not discuss lurker lynches. This post will be spammed a lot. | ||
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