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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 10 2014 16:26 GMT
#1893
I'm not going to answer any questions about why I voted iamp in spite of stating preference for lynching lurkers. I had an irrational response to one of his posts I think and someone (I think yamato) made some pretty good points about iamp and then I evaluated the votes for him at the time, and I was like "okay fine whatever" and voted not knowing whether I'd make it back in time to change it.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. mderg is looking nominally better for his posting, obviously I was right about considering ObiWan and I was obviously wrong about iamp. I have a couple of things to do irl before I get super deep into the thread, but I wanted to come clean with my thread actions yesterday.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 10 2014 18:18 GMT
#1938
So Koshi has not one but TWO really weird interactions with ObiWan yesterday. In both of them, he asks him what appear to be direct, pointed questions. In both cases, ObiWan directly responds, but in both cases, Koshi doesn't ever revisit the matter, and ObiWan is never seen in any of Koshi's suspicious lists. So here's how I am seeing it, and anyone who is good at this sort of thing should fact check me because I'm generally bad at it, but:

Koshi asks Obi X, Y,Z - presumably to get a read
Obi answers (at some length)
Koshi ignores and goes to bed.
Koshi asks Obi about specific players.
Obi doesn't seem to respond
Koshi is fine with Obi

So why does he feel the need to ping out Obi twice - he's obviously looking at him and thinking about him - but never put him on his suspicious list? Also (again, check my FAX bro, this is my drug-addled memory) these interactions are during the formative stage of the wagon on Obi that formed D1, so it just seems odd that Koshi has no comment on the things he asks Obi about. Why not say whether or not he agrees with the wagon?

##Vote: Koshi
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 10 2014 18:22 GMT
#1939
On July 09 2014 02:27 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 01:47 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 09 2014 01:40 Koshi wrote:
Can somebody give me the 3 most important events that have happened in this thread. If you had to sum up the first 30 hours with 3 events. Or give me the 3 most important talking points. Yes. That. Pls.


Imo:

1) Toads cases in the beginning pages,

2) The argument between you, prp, and forumite.

3) What's going on now with the wagon and spread out votes all over the place.

Obiwan

Can you talk about these 3 points.

Remember how I said that you should buddy me in your next game and talk to me.

Talk to me.

On July 09 2014 16:25 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 16:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
depends on what you give me in return.

Anything you want but anal.



Could you give reads on these people? Try to say smart things. You don't need to do but any1 would help.

HaruRH, ritoky, Bill Murray, HiroPro, layabout, kushm4sta, Alakaslam, batsnacks


These are the posts I'm referring to. I can't be arsed to find Obi's responses.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 10 2014 18:29 GMT
#1940
On July 10 2014 23:06 Palmar wrote:
ObiWanShinobi the Mafia Janitor is dead

Role PM

Janitor

When someone needs to not only die, but disappear, you are the man for the job. Feeding victims to pigs is just monday in your world.

Twice in the game you can send in the name of a player. You will kill that player, and his body will mysteriously disappear. The target will not flip.

You win when the mafia can not be stopped.

You are also able to deliver one mafia KP per night, in addition to your abilities.


Scum were probably NOT bussing this guy. He didn't just hide flips, he KILLED people AND hid their flips.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 10 2014 18:33 GMT
#1943
So like I think Koshi is confirmed scum basically. prp you're the guy for the job, can you go fact/timeline check my stuff on Koshi? If he was trying to coach votes off Obiwan during the formative period of the wagon, I want his head. TODAY.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 10 2014 18:53 GMT
#1948
So both of those posts come AFTER votes are coming off ObiWan? Is that correct?

If that's the case then yeah, Koshi doesn't fit the profile of scum trying to pull votes off ObiWan, but what about the interaction itself? Now that you've determined that Koshi isn't guilty of trying to divert votes off ObiWan, do you think the interaction itself is strange? More specifically, the fact that Koshi never really revisits the line of questioning to ObiWan?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 10 2014 18:59 GMT
#1951
I don't mean to imply that he like, had suspicion of him but didn't represent it or whatever, I know that's how it sounds.

:/

Like, it just looks to me like he's trying to get ObiWan OUT of the lurker category in case he's unsuccessful in lynching iamp, you know what I mean? Because people were humming and hawing about lynching lurkers before the iamp stuff came about...

Maybe it's just one of those things that I'm right about it for the wrong reasons, but I think Koshi is scum here. I'm just having a hard time putting to words why. And I don't want to read his full filter because it's big.

You're just supposed to agree with me prplhz, wtf
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 10 2014 19:01 GMT
#1953
But yeah, he's super active and stuff. Maybe I'm just wrong and seeing something that isn't there. I thought for sure that was interesting though.

I looked at Damdred or whatever's filter and it doesn't look good to me, but chances are I'm not going to be able to tell you why satisfactorily apparently. We'll see, I'll post about it in a bit.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 10 2014 20:36 GMT
#1975
On July 11 2014 05:26 Forumite wrote:
Not sure what´s up with the votecount, votes on Corazon doesn´t show.

Perhaps finish reading the thread before blaming hosts?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 10 2014 21:22 GMT
#1981
He goes on to defend his position that he thinks Cora was trying to represent townie (in a scummy way) and further to express interest in lynching Cora later on in the day. I'm pretty sure he meant that what he was doing was scummy.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 11 2014 00:34 GMT
#2020
I mean, it's common knowledge that Palmar runs his games this way. Bill would (I think) know this...so it's a little ridiculous if he thinks he can get useful information by fake-claiming roleblocked. Unless he actually /was/ roleblocked, in which scenario you'd have to assume that he /is/ a power-role and actually /knows/ he was roleblocked (because of a targeted action not resolving or whatever). But in that case, why does he claim it? Mafia don't know if they actually stopped a power of his or not, so it doesn't make sense from a town perspective to claim having /actually/ been roleblocked in that scenario. There's no benefit for town to know this, and EVERY benefit for mafia to know it.

My conclusion is that Bill Murray is faking roleblocked here. I don't know if he's doing it as town or mafia. If he's town and doing it, it's important that we hear his reasoning for doing so.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 11 2014 00:57 GMT
#2024
This is why you'll never leave the Bronze League Toad. It's literally impossible for it to be my fault your eggs are ruined.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 11 2014 01:05 GMT
#2026
Ugh... I could still lynch Forumite tbh. Like, he SOUNDS townie, but he's a very skilled player and the actual THINGS he's done have not been townie imo.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 11 2014 01:08 GMT
#2028
Like he actively deflected attention off of ObiWan more than once over the course of the game. ACTIVELY deflected.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 11 2014 01:10 GMT
#2029
On July 09 2014 00:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 00:32 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:25 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:23 Koshi wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:18 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:17 Koshi wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:16 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:13 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm not going to unvote forumite that quickly. I want him to feel the grip of death around his neck and see him sweat in fear.
I still think he's mighty scummy.
Just drop it. I was pressured yesterday, today I´m just disappointed that you are unable to read my posts. I´ve allready explained the mess yesterday, now make a coherent case (for real this time) and get a wagon going or do something usefull with your time.

hahahahahahaha

That goes for you too

pls gooby pls

You are telling the one person who made the most cases (Toad) to use his time more useful when you haven't done jack shit this game. An hommage:

prplz town because I read him as scum
Koshi totes ruining thread with his 5 posts about riddles guys. I am totes upset. also many omgus.
Robik scum with the omgus threatening.
SlOosh sheeps to fake activity.
Toad I keep blabbering about. I don't really know what I am saying. Or do I? Nobody knows.
layabout pure lurker.
Exo lurker that was getting thread sentiment.

What did I miss?

nice list, I´d like to make lists someday

Is the list scummy? Are you calling Koshi scum for making a list? Like, how is THIS post productive?

It´s not, I´m just pissed off at Toades and Koshi.

Well I don't care - if you're mafia then that's easy to say. What I care about is who you want to lynch. You asked for the case on ObiWan (a lurker) and you've tried to discourage MY preference mderg (a lurker) yet you say you'd lynch a lurker today. How about instead of continuing to be "pissed off" at Toad and Koshi, you tell us who YOU think is the best lynch today?

I only remember because I specifically called him out for doing it once here, and there is another time on top of this that I read when filtering Forumite searching for ObiWan. There may even be more, because when I saw that I immediately came and posted about his SCUMMY ASS SHIT.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 11 2014 01:13 GMT
#2030
Maybe I prefer a Forumite lynch today. Maybe layabout CAN manipulate me.

##Unvote
##Vote: Forumite
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 11 2014 01:15 GMT
#2031
Let's roll, Toad.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 11 2014 01:32 GMT
#2039
On July 11 2014 10:24 kushm4sta wrote:
forumite isn't reading. once you realize that it makes him look townier.

Forumite brought Resistance to the forum format. I don't care what you say, Forumite /not/ reading the thread does /not/ make him townier.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 11 2014 02:45 GMT
#2068
On July 11 2014 11:15 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 23:06 Palmar wrote:


ObiWanShinobi the Mafia Janitor is dead
Janitor

When someone needs to not only die, but disappear, you are the man for the job. Feeding victims to pigs is just monday in your world.

Twice in the game you can send in the name of a player. You will kill that player, and his body will mysteriously disappear. The target will not flip.

You win when the mafia can not be stopped.

You are also able to deliver one mafia KP per night, in addition to your abilities.


We aren't allowed to ask questions to the mod in the thread, but the way this is worded is disturbing to me. Cuz normal janitor has the body flip but it flips as ??????. This says the person mysteriously disappears and will not flip. So uhhhh, does that mean someone could be dead in the game right now and we don't know about it?

If that's the case I might just systematically start voting on every single person in the game, wait for a vote count to confirm they are alive, then move to the next person.

Can I be a bad boy and confirm rito as town for this?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 11 2014 03:27 GMT
#2077
On July 11 2014 12:17 Toadesstern wrote:
Doesn't have to be, I'm just thinking about the mason-stuff.

It's only true if you think the mason ability is mafia-sided. If it's town-sided it could easily be town on town - but if the power is maf-sided there's a drastically higher chance that there's a maf in the mason chat.
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