EPTApparently it is something completely different. The things I just named would be RobiktheamazingMagus worthy. But it again something boring.
Well. It means Robik says Damdred is town.
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Apparently it is something completely different. The things I just named would be RobiktheamazingMagus worthy. But it again something boring. Well. It means Robik says Damdred is town. | ||
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On July 08 2014 07:56 sinani206 wrote: no lists of town only people who i think are scummy The problem I have with this is that I wont be able to read my name under "towniest town that towned in town". You should at least put in 10 names tbh. I ask this because you are a low volume poster just entering the thread. If you do this people will get mad and you will have an easier time posting stuff. | ||
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On July 08 2014 08:02 iamperfection wrote: It suggests that we are both town. Only one person has been clever enough to f5 the thread and post the basically the exact same thing to gain townie points as scum. pls I do it as scum. most of the time because I am afraid to post what I am going to post and quickly refresh to see how others react and then post it because I was totes right about posting that because town would post it. #TrueStory | ||
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On July 08 2014 08:11 sinani206 wrote: wow games with robik in them are impossible to read lies. There is nothing that Robik does that makes it harder to read a game. Just don't try to understand why he is scumreading/townreading people. Just skim his posts and make a mental note of who is scumreading/townreading. That's all you have to do around Robik. Focus on the words in people their posts that are not Robik. | ||
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On July 08 2014 08:14 Alakaslam wrote: bullshit, I have my vote and can sheep good cases. Talk to me about lampshading. You always refuse to do so in previous games  | ||
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On July 08 2014 08:17 Alakaslam wrote: I love lampshading! I have to have something to do it with though Aren't you a detector of lampshading? I remember you saying somebody was lampshading once and it actually made sense. You also redirected me to a wiki page or something. It was actually quite interesting. Anyhoezels. Off to bed. gn. | ||
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Overview of interesting things in filters. No conclusions. Prplhz: - Defends Forumite from the start and continues to do so. Ex. Stating Forumite might have a good reason for his 99% townread without asking what the townread is. Ex. Arguing with slOosh about the question Forumite asked. - Very outspoken and aggressive. Ex. Entrance, towards Sinani and Exo, SlOosh vote. Iamperfection: - Many superficial posts. Page 3 is a good example. Both his Robik read and Damdred read are lazy. - Asked for 10 vigis. Should have been max 4 for somebody who has been in the thread the entire game. Again shows laziness. Toadesstern: - First case in the game, second case in the game. Both cases had scumhunting thoughtprocess behind them. Constant in search for scum. - After reading 1,5 pages confirmed town till lylo and blueclaims. (because he can’t be alive as town till then unless mass saves or something) Corazon: - This post is very town: On July 08 2014 03:33 Corazon wrote: What the hell Iamp? The 4-5 posts in my filter have 30 times as much content and purpose as his entire filter. If all I did was post meme's, one-liners, and rage posts whenever someone called me scum, would you REALLY count that as activity? Reading Corazon his filter it is clear to me from the start that he is trying to push the game forward. He started with giving his opinion on 4 protagonists (Toad/Koshi/Forumite/Robik) and then trew out a comment on Yamato. Making the above post 2 minutes after reading iamps post indicates to me that Corazon is very aware of Robik his filter and is very confident about his own filter. Something a scummer wouldn’t be so confident about. slOosh: - Made a good case on Forumite and limited his posts around Forumite. However, SlOosh never stated to not have read the thread and was open for any questions about anything. Nowhere he shows a lack of confidence. Vivax: I want to point out the difference in iamp (because I already read his) and Vivax his filter by quoting these 5 posts that Vivax chained: + Show Spoiler + On July 08 2014 00:51 Vivax wrote: Idk, shouldn't he be townreading Toad based on what he said? Or where does he draw the line between a weak scumread on prpl and strong one when it comes to Toad? On July 08 2014 01:24 Vivax wrote: The way VE entered the thread kinda gives me the feeling he already wanted to call me scum before he read all that stuff. One point that makes me think of that is that first he called me scummy for reacting poorly to forumite calling me out. When he realized he actually didn't call me out, he called me scummy for reacting to him in the first place. It just doesn't make sense that I should react only to guys talking about me, so it just looks like an adjustment after his previous point was made invalid. His arguments for my reaction being poor were: Which is a perfectly fine argument in line with mafia not looking at the game the same way a townie does. All the way not considering that forumite's preference for Koshi over me or anyone else talking about random stuff has no explanation. On July 08 2014 01:26 Vivax wrote: What's the deal with those kush votes? On July 08 2014 01:36 Vivax wrote: The depth of mafia arguments is up to their creativity, and I wouldn't put it past VE to be creative. Besides, he says my intention was to identify with a town crowd, when my intention was to show why forum could be scum. As said, it looks to me like he was just trying to find scum motives behind my play at any cost. On July 08 2014 01:37 Vivax wrote: Can Cav, Robik and VE explain what about kush's post makes him instascum? This chain is what I like to see in filters D1. He hits multiple people at the same time and is clearly looking for scum. Good stuff. | ||
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I am calling out what I see. It is pretty obvious when I think somebody is town anyway which means do not lynch D1/D2, not further unless I explicitely state it. Basically I want to on top of this game and share my findings because my ideas are too valuable to keep secret in a word file. | ||
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On July 08 2014 18:46 prplhz wrote: i didn't defend forumite early on, i just said that iamp and robik shouldn't jump to conclusion when there could be a good meta read that he just didn't inform the thread of. not providing a reason for your reads isn't scummy, it's not having a reason for them that's scummy. can you go more into detail with what you like about slOosh' case on forumite? I like the "Stop. Think" part of the case because it makes the case very sheepable and very understandable. On July 08 2014 06:01 slOosh wrote: Heyo. I am not liking the Forumite. Ok are you ready for this? He meta reads prplhz, then asks prplhz for his reads. Stop. Think. Why do you ask people for reads? You do it because either you want to get a better read on them, or you think they are town and you value their reads. At 99% town, he isn't doing it for the first reason, so it must be the second. But at this point the game just started, and most of the posts were "hahaha jokez" posts, so clearly nothing meaningful to be gleaned off here. Conclusion: Forumite has a scummy mindset of "asking people for reads looks like activity" but when he does it it looks totally out of place. Why did ask Forumite prplhz his reads? This is a very good question. SlOosh also believes in this sentence showing a scummy mindset in Forumite. You are trowing away SloOsh his argument that this one sentence makes Forumite scum but have you ever seen a scummer make a case showing off such dept in thought? Remember that this is SloOsh his first post, so one (Robik) could argue that SlOosh is being scum tryharding. You think so as well? SloOsh reading that one sentence and making an understandable/sheepable case around that one sentence makes me respect SlOosh his scumhunting abilities. Or his scum playing abilities. Why would I want to lynch somebody who shows me that he can make a case around somebody making 1 bad sentence? Out of fear he plays atypical godly scum? I will pass on that. | ||
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I also find the "99% sure prplhz is town" into " prplhz please give me your reads" looking awkward. I didn't see that at until SlOosh pointed it out. I like that SlOosh pointed it out. I like SlOosh. simple. | ||
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On July 08 2014 19:14 Forumite wrote: I ask prplhz for reads because I want to know what he thinks, why did you think I asked? Why did you want to know what he thinks? Do you respect his early reads so much that you want to sheep him? Why not ask iamp what he was thinking? | ||
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@Forumite. Why did you ask prplhz for his reads when you were reading him as scum. | ||
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On July 08 2014 19:29 prplhz wrote: Disagree with what? Both SlOosh and Forumite. Obviously he is allowed to ask you questions etc etc etc. That's not what this is about. Maybe you are right and this forumite business is nothing. Maybe you are right and SlOosh is scum. But I disagree with you. If you want us to be bffs and you want me off this Forumite thing find me something else. Something we both can agree on. SlOosh being opportunistic scum is not that thing. Otherwise we will have to live with each other in disagreement. Which I don't have a problem with. | ||
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On July 08 2014 19:41 Forumite wrote: I´m not voting for prplhz but that doesn´t mean I don´t care what he thinks. No, prplhz isn´t a mafia god who can find scum from their first posts (unlike SloOsh, zomg!), who cares? Any insight is valuable. iamperfection? Why should I ask him over prplhz? Seriously, why? I don´t understand why you would ask me something like that. Because I have to believe you asked prplhz his reads so his answer would help you solve the game. People post stuff for shit and giggles obviously, but you asked prplhz his reads while scumreading him. It's odd. iamp? It doesn't have to be iamp. I used iamp as example because I remember him being active and very neutral towards you. I would ask my bestest bet on a good and helpful answer that question. A veteran. Not a guy I scumread. It's odd to me. Obviously you play different than me. So don't think I find you solely scummy for this question. New question: You said you are pretty good at finding valuable posts and analysing them. However, your reads this game have been rather lackluster. Are you too annoyed by me scumreading you to play the game optimally? | ||
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Forumite is under pressure and he is dealing with it really bad. Maybe this thing with the reads and with the 99% is all bullshit and untrue. Then his play under pressure is still iffy. Look at his recent posts. He is utterly convinced that I am scum and he can't make a thoughtful post about anything else. Look at his other read Toad, is this what why I have to unvote Forumite for: On Toades, I don´t know. It´s OMGUS for voting me and the opposite for (nearly) dropping the case a few hours later. Him pushing for me makes it hard for me to be objective about his play. Others seem to think it makes him slightly townie, whatever. This is why he is currently scumreading Robik for: This doesn´t make you town, this just makes it easy for you APPEAR town. I know how frustrating it is to mess up as town, act scummy and then get mislynched. When you say that you hate being called scum then it reads to me like you want to tap into that to make it look like you are town. And as some have allready stated, you do this even when you are scum, so why should this make us think you are town? You talk about this a lot, basically threatening with OMGUS for anyone doubting you. Are these the kinda reads I want to see from a townie under pressure? This is the guy that is voting me for ruining the thread so he can't find the valuable post. He is voting Robik because of his playstyle. It's kinda really just that. And he sticks to his guns about it. "Preemptive omgus is scummy" Then let me quote his scumread progression on me: On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote: Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die. ##Vote: Koshi On July 07 2014 23:51 Forumite wrote: Your empty posts fill the thread and make it harder to read the thread and see posts of real value. It´s spamming and anti-town, which makes you scum, so you have to die. On July 08 2014 03:40 Forumite wrote: Koshi, I still think he´s scummy, even more than the usual OMGUS for pushing me. His case on me felt like he waited to hitch on to Toades case, adding his own complex reasonings to explain why scum would do what I did, basically WIFOM. He also accused me of calling Toades scum, which I´m fairly sure I never did. I´m leaving my vote on Koshi. Toades, did you have any questions for me? On July 08 2014 04:50 Forumite wrote: On his earlier posts, I have changed my mind. I understand that the early game can be dull and those posts at least gets things going. I still lean heavily towards scum on Koshi, he drew those riddle posts for a few too many pages and has since done a few things that I feel are off when pushing me. On the above quote: He says he changed his opinion on my early game, saying it might be to get things going, but then backtracks on that statement immediately saying that I talked about my riddles too long. While I only posted 1 riddle. Or 2 in 1 post w.e. But please open my filter. How many posts did I make around my riddle? I think max. 6 and it completely stopped after prplhz found the right answer and I went hardcore serious. So what he says is wrong. Is wrong scummy in this case? I find it very uncomfortable tbh. Because his read on me looks like a scared scum who is afraid to fall without a scumread. Now his reasoning to read me scum is basically omgus. He says I am "off" yet no reasons are given. I don't think I am scumreading him in a scummy manner. I am always very open with my flow of thought. On July 08 2014 19:08 Forumite wrote: My vote stays on Koshi because his case on me is shit. I don´t like Robik either but could be personal because he´s bad mannered. Robiks preemptive OMGUS looks like a good scum move, but I don´t know anything about either Robik, this might be his normal playstyle. I don't know if Forumite thinks he is a shining beacon of townyness. He isn't and shouldn't base his reads on almost solely OMGUS. The SlOosh case is incoming and we will see what that brings. But it smells like it is going to be an easier OMGUS target than me. -------------------------------------- Been working on this too long and on / off due to work. Just going to press enter now. | ||
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On July 08 2014 20:23 sinani206 wrote: Guys did anyone else just realize how scummy koshi is Please tell us all about it. | ||
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On July 08 2014 22:02 Vivax wrote: I can think of one reason why he'd post so half-assed, but it's a reason I cannot talk about, and if that's the reason then his behaviour should change at some point. Hence I'd like to hear what he has to say to your post before I give my judgment. I was going to make the same post. But I don't see why that behaviour should change. Well. Without help. | ||
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