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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 07 2014 22:35 GMT
#588
On July 08 2014 07:28 Vivax wrote:
Convince me that he's scummy-wrong then.

he has two posts read them yourself. i don't like his case at all seems forced and on an easy target and the "why is he asking people for reads early in the game? SCUM" is just a terrible argument, people do whatever the fuck in early game.

On July 08 2014 07:31 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 07:18 prplhz wrote:
i've come to the conclusion that it's unlikely that forumite would make an early 99% read as scum and then provide such qustionable reasoning for it

so maybe sloosh is scum

##Vote slOosh

I like you for the first part because I agree. But I think there's enough that makes it more likely that that assertion just has to be us being wrong and he did slip in some kind of way.

yea i also agree with the first part but i think i have more luck with not telling myself "but maybe he's mafia anyway" so i'm not going to do that
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 07 2014 22:37 GMT
#592
On July 08 2014 07:36 slOosh wrote:
Prplhz, give me a meaningful read using information only from pages 6~9.

can't

what's your point?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 07 2014 22:41 GMT
#597
On July 08 2014 07:38 slOosh wrote:
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On July 08 2014 07:37 prplhz wrote:
On July 08 2014 07:36 slOosh wrote:
Prplhz, give me a meaningful read using information only from pages 6~9.

can't

what's your point?

Forumite asked you basically the same question.

I argue that it is a terrible question more likely to come from scum than town. Do you agree / disagree?

so what? people ask stuff early game, i asked koshi if he was happy he couldn't vote me for the rest of the game, that's kind of like asking for a read too.

vivax asks me in post 6 what i feel about iamp

people ask each other stuff it's absolutely not a big deal and certainly nothing to call anybody scum for
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 07 2014 22:47 GMT
#601
lets just lynch sinani most useless player on tlmafia by far
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 07 2014 23:00 GMT
#631
On July 08 2014 07:57 ExO_ wrote:
Regardless of your alignment bunnies, you come off as seriously caustic. If you're a townie, you're making no friends by being so rude to everybody

can you just leave until you are ready to contribute?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 07 2014 23:18 GMT
#656
On July 08 2014 08:16 Alakaslam wrote:
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On July 08 2014 07:47 prplhz wrote:
lets just lynch sinani most useless player on tlmafia by far

given other noncomplimentary remarks I take this as a compliment personally

i said it to gauge a reaction, not because it was true (might be though but who am i to judge)
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 07 2014 23:20 GMT
#658
On July 08 2014 08:19 sinani206 wrote:
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On July 08 2014 08:18 prplhz wrote:
On July 08 2014 08:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On July 08 2014 07:47 prplhz wrote:
lets just lynch sinani most useless player on tlmafia by far

given other noncomplimentary remarks I take this as a compliment personally

i said it to gauge a reaction, not because it was true (might be though but who am i to judge)

reaction tests dont work on me

it's literally impossible not to react
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 08 2014 08:00 GMT
#819
@Corazon There's no way we're lynching IAmRobik and that's okay because he's probably town. Please do something else and focus on people who aren't active, we're not lynching the most active D1 player because that guy simply never turns out to be scum. Doesn't matter if you like his contributions or not, he's interacted with the thread the most out of everybody so he's probably town and that means we're simply not lynching him.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 08 2014 08:22 GMT
#820
I agree with VisceraEyes that mderg has said surprisingly little.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 08 2014 09:27 GMT
#822
Anybody around?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 08 2014 09:44 GMT
#824
why "no conclusions"?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 08 2014 09:46 GMT
#825
i didn't defend forumite early on, i just said that iamp and robik shouldn't jump to conclusion when there could be a good meta read that he just didn't inform the thread of. not providing a reason for your reads isn't scummy, it's not having a reason for them that's scummy.

can you go more into detail with what you like about slOosh' case on forumite?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 08 2014 09:55 GMT
#827
talk to me about slOoshies case
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 08 2014 10:20 GMT
#834
On July 08 2014 19:04 Koshi wrote:
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On July 08 2014 18:46 prplhz wrote:
i didn't defend forumite early on, i just said that iamp and robik shouldn't jump to conclusion when there could be a good meta read that he just didn't inform the thread of. not providing a reason for your reads isn't scummy, it's not having a reason for them that's scummy.

can you go more into detail with what you like about slOosh' case on forumite?

I like the "Stop. Think" part of the case because it makes the case very sheepable and very understandable.
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 06:01 slOosh wrote:
Heyo.

I am not liking the Forumite. Ok are you ready for this?

On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

He meta reads prplhz, then asks prplhz for his reads.

Stop. Think. Why do you ask people for reads?

You do it because either you want to get a better read on them, or you think they are town and you value their reads. At 99% town, he isn't doing it for the first reason, so it must be the second. But at this point the game just started, and most of the posts were "hahaha jokez" posts, so clearly nothing meaningful to be gleaned off here.

Conclusion: Forumite has a scummy mindset of "asking people for reads looks like activity" but when he does it it looks totally out of place.

Why did ask Forumite prplhz his reads? This is a very good question. SlOosh also believes in this sentence showing a scummy mindset in Forumite. You are trowing away SloOsh his argument that this one sentence makes Forumite scum but have you ever seen a scummer make a case showing off such dept in thought? Remember that this is SloOsh his first post, so one (Robik) could argue that SlOosh is being scum tryharding. You think so as well?

SloOsh reading that one sentence and making an understandable/sheepable case around that one sentence makes me respect SlOosh his scumhunting abilities. Or his scum playing abilities.

Why would I want to lynch somebody who shows me that he can make a case around somebody making 1 bad sentence? Out of fear he plays atypical godly scum? I will pass on that.

No, you should lynch him because he is scum making a bad case on an easy target. Forumite was under a lot of fire already and then slOosh focuses on him asking someone else for reads and says that's scummy. Absolutely not, people do that all the time and people had already done that a lot in thread. It's a big part of how you play this game.

And yes, the case does look tryhard with the "Stop, Think" thing. That doesn't mean much to me but it's worth noting and thats how IAmRobik makes reads anyway as far as I know.

On July 08 2014 19:07 Koshi wrote:
tldr:

I also find the "99% sure prplhz is town" into " prplhz please give me your reads" looking awkward.

I didn't see that at until SlOosh pointed it out. I like that SlOosh pointed it out. I like SlOosh.

simple.

Why on earth is that awkward?

A townie could EASILY think "I think that guy is town, maybe I should ask him for some reads so I can better get a hold of this game", I do that all the time, ask my town reads for their reads so I can better understand the game. Or since it appears that Forumite wasn't 99% sure, maybe he's thinking "Maybe if I ask prplhz for some reads I will become more sure of his alignment". Fact is that people ask each other questions and people were asking each other for reads way before Forumite asked me for my reads.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 08 2014 10:21 GMT
#835
On July 08 2014 19:18 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 19:14 Forumite wrote:
On July 08 2014 19:04 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 18:46 prplhz wrote:
i didn't defend forumite early on, i just said that iamp and robik shouldn't jump to conclusion when there could be a good meta read that he just didn't inform the thread of. not providing a reason for your reads isn't scummy, it's not having a reason for them that's scummy.

can you go more into detail with what you like about slOosh' case on forumite?

I like the "Stop. Think" part of the case because it makes the case very sheepable and very understandable.
On July 08 2014 06:01 slOosh wrote:
Heyo.

I am not liking the Forumite. Ok are you ready for this?

On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

He meta reads prplhz, then asks prplhz for his reads.

Stop. Think. Why do you ask people for reads?

You do it because either you want to get a better read on them, or you think they are town and you value their reads. At 99% town, he isn't doing it for the first reason, so it must be the second. But at this point the game just started, and most of the posts were "hahaha jokez" posts, so clearly nothing meaningful to be gleaned off here.

Conclusion: Forumite has a scummy mindset of "asking people for reads looks like activity" but when he does it it looks totally out of place.

Why did ask Forumite prplhz his reads? This is a very good question. SlOosh also believes in this sentence showing a scummy mindset in Forumite. You are trowing away SloOsh his argument that this one sentence makes Forumite scum but have you ever seen a scummer make a case showing off such dept in thought? Remember that this is SloOsh his first post, so one (Robik) could argue that SlOosh is being scum tryharding. You think so as well?

SloOsh reading that one sentence and making an understandable/sheepable case around that one sentence makes me respect SlOosh his scumhunting abilities. Or his scum playing abilities.

Why would I want to lynch somebody who shows me that he can make a case around somebody making 1 bad sentence? Out of fear he plays atypical godly scum? I will pass on that.
I ask prplhz for reads because I want to know what he thinks, why did you think I asked?

Why did you want to know what he thinks? Do you respect his early reads so much that you want to sheep him? Why not ask iamp what he was thinking?

So you think it's a bad question because no one should care what I think?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 08 2014 10:29 GMT
#837
Disagree with what?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 08 2014 10:32 GMT
#838
are you seriously saying that its scummy to ask someone else for their reads
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 08 2014 10:36 GMT
#840
On July 08 2014 19:35 Koshi wrote:
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On July 08 2014 19:29 prplhz wrote:
Disagree with what?

Both SlOosh and Forumite.

Obviously he is allowed to ask you questions etc etc etc. That's not what this is about. Maybe you are right and this forumite business is nothing. Maybe you are right and SlOosh is scum.

But I disagree with you.


If you want us to be bffs and you want me off this Forumite thing find me something else. Something we both can agree on. SlOosh being opportunistic scum is not that thing.


Otherwise we will have to live with each other in disagreement. Which I don't have a problem with.

Then what is it about? I don't understand then.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 08 2014 10:41 GMT
#841
"maybe you're right, maybe you're not. i don't care though so lets stop talking."
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 08 2014 12:56 GMT
#866
On July 08 2014 21:55 yamato77 wrote:
iamp, redirect your attention to obiwan

he's the lynch today

i liek u
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