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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 07 2014 15:38 GMT
#281
VE, talk me through this Vivax thing succinctly.
Writer@WriterYamato
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 07 2014 15:39 GMT
#282
On July 08 2014 00:36 yamato77 wrote:
Toad I think you're town but I don't trust you to come up with a single correct read : /

thanks... I guess
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 07 2014 15:41 GMT
#283
On July 08 2014 00:25 IAmRobik wrote:
The only thing that gives me pause for concern is how easy it is to jump down forumite's throat. Each post is just scummier and scummier since his opening


At the same time, it's pretty much mafia 101 to call people town who are town cause you know they're town even though people are scum reading them.

Hipster mafia


robik explain this pls, explain why its okay for you to do this but its not okay for others to do this.
Retired.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 07 2014 15:42 GMT
#284
On July 08 2014 00:38 yamato77 wrote:
VE, talk me through this Vivax thing succinctly.

I've said what there is to say, as succinctly as I can.

1) I mistook Forumite's pressure on Koshi for pressure on Vivax.
2) Looking back I realized that Vivax wasn't reacting to pressure on himself, but pressure on Koshi.
3) I didn't like how Vivax attacked Forumite based on his Koshi suspicion either.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
July 07 2014 15:43 GMT
#285
On July 08 2014 00:34 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 00:30 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 00:27 Toadesstern wrote:
waitwaitwait. That reasoning is stupid as hell but people use it. I do the same whenever I'm dealing with VE and it works wonders. No problem there and towniepoints for not being afraid to mention something that ridiculous lol.

However, this "strategy" is so odd that he shouldn't be expecting other people to use it as well. He's basicly stating that prplhz is town because he looks slightly scummy. If anything the guy should be gushing over me about how I'm a god at mafia for seeing that but STILL being wrong nonetheless according to him. Right?

Yes, he did consider chainsawing you for reading prplhz as scum while he read prplhz as scum.

The plot thickings


*dum dum dum*

exactly. At the same time he has the balls to outright state that for no reason whatsoever. Why would mafia say they were considering to chainsaw me. If this was someone like Marv or me who literally don't give a shit about how weak we post and do it on a regular basis to look like we're ballsy townies fine but this little detail doesn't fit in the picture of forumite being Mafia so far.

That's what I meant with, he's not afraid of posting something that ridiculous (for both things). I'm actually fine with forumite for now lol

Nha bro, that's not how it works. Mafia doesn't think about why they actually read people. They think about covering themselves if they get called out. Scum doesn't connect the "I can justify reading prplhz for town because my history with him" with "this guy is town because he scumreaded prplhz and I also do that as town".
I am not saying it is impossible for scum to do it, but scum is more likely to slip in their reasoning doing these kinda connect reads.

mafia more likely thinks "ok, prplhz is town and I can defend him with this meta reason x from past games, I could call the guy who is putting pressure on prplhz scum because he is wrong but let's go after this guy who is posting total nonsense, nobody will think I am off base for calling this guy out, he clearly is doing nothing".


You should be proud of your case. It actually shows mafia mindset.
I had a good night of sleep.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 07 2014 15:45 GMT
#286
On July 08 2014 00:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
robik arent you doing the exact same thing though

No. The difference is astounding
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 07 2014 15:47 GMT
#287
On July 08 2014 00:45 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 00:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
robik arent you doing the exact same thing though

No. The difference is astounding


dot dot dot

care to tell me what that is though
Retired.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 07 2014 15:48 GMT
#288
VEs posts seem so convoluted. It seems like he's going on many tangents and not really saying anything while typing a lot
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 07 2014 15:48 GMT
#289
So should I be mafia-reading Forumite? I actually liked Toad's point earlier. The whole "I don't care about townreads, but here's this one almost certain townread that I'm going to base all of my reads on" thing really bugs me. But is that mafia-flavored?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 07 2014 15:48 GMT
#290
On July 08 2014 00:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 00:25 IAmRobik wrote:
The only thing that gives me pause for concern is how easy it is to jump down forumite's throat. Each post is just scummier and scummier since his opening


Show nested quote +
At the same time, it's pretty much mafia 101 to call people town who are town cause you know they're town even though people are scum reading them.

Hipster mafia


robik explain this pls, explain why its okay for you to do this but its not okay for others to do this.

Cause I called him mafia first and then changed my mind and then rechanged my mind. There's a difference of mafia defending soemone they know is town and mafia calling someone mafia and then changing their mind.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 07 2014 15:50 GMT
#291
On July 08 2014 00:48 IAmRobik wrote:
VEs posts seem so convoluted. It seems like he's going on many tangents and not really saying anything while typing a lot

My posts have been concise bitch. You're either just trying to piss me off or you're scum. Which is it?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 07 2014 15:51 GMT
#292
On July 08 2014 00:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 00:48 IAmRobik wrote:
VEs posts seem so convoluted. It seems like he's going on many tangents and not really saying anything while typing a lot

My posts have been concise bitch. You're either just trying to piss me off or you're scum. Which is it?

They aren't like long-long but they're so difficult to read through and follow the logic of, but it's been proven that I have a difficult time doing that and need someone to hold my hand for me to get there (you know what I'm talkinga bout). It just seems like your firing off different thoughts in rapid succession and it makes sense to you while not making sense to me
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21948 Posts
July 07 2014 15:51 GMT
#293
On July 08 2014 00:11 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 23:55 Vivax wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:52 iamperfection wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:51 Forumite wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:38 prplhz wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

don't really have any reads yet, a few tentative town reads is all.
k, I don´t care about townreads unless we´re close to the lynch.

On July 07 2014 23:37 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, how do we feel about forumite's first post. Kinda resembles Koshi's with a tad more content. But the content smells bullshitty. I lean town nevertheless even though I'm not certain I agree with any of the conclusions at this moment
What conclusions? My read on Koshi? My read on prplhz? My thoughts on lynching early or risk a rushed lynch or a no lynch? Do you enjoy the voting frenzy 5 minutes before deadline followed by yet another town lynch, because I don´t.

On July 07 2014 23:36 Koshi wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

The fact you say I am ruining the thread hurts me more than you voting me. I am the entertainment value here.
Your empty posts fill the thread and make it harder to read the thread and see posts of real value. It´s spamming and anti-town, which makes you scum, so you have to die.

about 75% of the posts have been useless including mine why pick koshi over anyone else.


I'm interested into this too.

Prpl, what do you think of Toad's stuff so far? I'd have expected you to fight back in some way by now.
I'm actively withholding judgement on Toades. My first reaction was to ignore my read on Koshi and chainsaw Toades, but that would have been only based on him voting for prplhz. That´s not necessarily a scum trait, just reading prplhz wrong.

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 23:44 Koshi wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:43 iamperfection wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:42 IAmRobik wrote:
If IAmP gets mislynched this game, I'm going to flame each and every one of you in post game. He's the broiest bro of all bros

ive only been mislynched once. it doesn't happen

##vote: iamperfection

Based on the fact it won't happen that we mislynch iamp.
Koshi, you have to own up on your vote for iamperfection and post it in the voting thread, it doesn´t count otherwise.


On July 08 2014 00:21 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 00:14 prplhz wrote:
@Forumite Explain your meta read on me that makes you 99% sure.
I have a long career of mislynching you after a weak scumread leads me to tunnel and ruin it for town. Since then I interpret weak scumreads on you as strong signs of townieness.


Idk, shouldn't he be townreading Toad based on what he said?
Or where does he draw the line between a weak scumread on prpl and strong one when it comes to Toad?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
July 07 2014 15:51 GMT
#294
On July 08 2014 00:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
So should I be mafia-reading Forumite? I actually liked Toad's point earlier. The whole "I don't care about townreads, but here's this one almost certain townread that I'm going to base all of my reads on" thing really bugs me. But is that mafia-flavored?

You should townread Toad. For many reasons already.
Then you should put serious ??? next to Forumite based on him scumreading Toad for doing what he does as town.

The thing with the not caring about townreads is pretty meh.
I had a good night of sleep.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
July 07 2014 15:54 GMT
#295
Sorry, I'm down with fever. Will be very inactive until I recover
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 07 2014 15:54 GMT
#296
Toad is doing things Toad is capable of as any alignment. I refuse to townread Toad right now. Sorry Koshi. But I did like his point about Forumite.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 07 2014 15:55 GMT
#297
The forumite discussion has now lost purpose
Writer@WriterYamato
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
July 07 2014 15:56 GMT
#298
Toad is some godly scum player then. Which he isn't. I remember him being scum somewhere and dieing D1. Totes town.

inb4 Toad is really pissed because he won a scum award when there were still dinosaurs walking on earth.
I had a good night of sleep.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 07 2014 15:56 GMT
#299
On July 08 2014 00:55 yamato77 wrote:
The forumite discussion has now lost purpose

I thought you were discussing Vivax with me. Part of that is you giving your opinion of him to me. Do that part now.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 07 2014 15:57 GMT
#300
On July 08 2014 00:56 Koshi wrote:
Toad is some godly scum player then. Which he isn't. I remember him being scum somewhere and dieing D1. Totes town.

inb4 Toad is really pissed because he won a scum award when there were still dinosaurs walking on earth.

Toad and I won an award for scumplay. I won't be downplaying Toad's scumplay today Koshi, sorry brah.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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