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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 10 2014 14:39 GMT
#1866
FUCK.

I was not allowed to vote for prplhz because he was the riddle master.


Well bad luck for him.

Shouldn't be so damn scummy.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 10 2014 14:44 GMT
#1868
I should stay a bit afk. Let other people do stuff.

Remember this is a very short day. So start voting.

Don't let scum hide.

VOTE
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 10 2014 14:45 GMT
#1869
Every townie should have at least 1 scumread. Otherwise you are not doing your job.

So vote so that mafia has to make up at least 1 scumread.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 10 2014 15:21 GMT
#1881
On July 11 2014 00:01 kushm4sta wrote:
Why is this a short day?
I'm starting to think koshi is scummy for blatantly shit reasons behind his votes.

Koshi if you have a list of possible scum, why are you voting for the ones with the least evidence of being scum?

Because I can Kush. It's short cuz it's in the day post.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 10 2014 19:32 GMT
#1961
I decided that it is a good thing to vote with my scumread. People are defending me anyway. I can do more crazy stuff. Also very many lelz and lulz given to VE reading me as scum after playing against me in the numbered normal mini. Ohh VE. Why you so funny? Instant scumread on VE.

##unvote
##vote: Damdred
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 10 2014 19:46 GMT
#1968
Cora town mvp already.

Removed 2 lynchbaits from the game and shot the strongest scumrole. Maybe scum did use the janitor but docsave. We should consider that btw.

Anyhoezels.


I always said Cora town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 10 2014 19:54 GMT
#1969
On July 11 2014 03:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
So Koshi has not one but TWO really weird interactions with ObiWan yesterday. In both of them, he asks him what appear to be direct, pointed questions. In both cases, ObiWan directly responds, but in both cases, Koshi doesn't ever revisit the matter, and ObiWan is never seen in any of Koshi's suspicious lists. So here's how I am seeing it, and anyone who is good at this sort of thing should fact check me because I'm generally bad at it, but:

Koshi asks Obi X, Y,Z - presumably to get a read
Obi answers (at some length)
Koshi ignores and goes to bed.
Koshi asks Obi about specific players.
Obi doesn't seem to respond
Koshi is fine with Obi

So why does he feel the need to ping out Obi twice - he's obviously looking at him and thinking about him - but never put him on his suspicious list? Also (again, check my FAX bro, this is my drug-addled memory) these interactions are during the formative stage of the wagon on Obi that formed D1, so it just seems odd that Koshi has no comment on the things he asks Obi about. Why not say whether or not he agrees with the wagon?

##Vote: Koshi

In my defense I had Obiwan as solid town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 10 2014 20:33 GMT
#1973
On July 11 2014 05:28 prplhz wrote:
whoever the fuck masoned me with koshi can suck a dick

What?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 10 2014 21:00 GMT
#1978
I am trolling the fuck out of him. hahaha
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 10 2014 21:53 GMT
#1985
I don't understand how prplhz and I got masoned.

I really thought he was mafia masoner.

But then he was all serious and stuff.

I don't know.

I misbehaved.

But not too much tbh.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 10 2014 21:53 GMT
#1986
Vivax. Tell me about ghost players.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 10 2014 21:58 GMT
#1989
Vivax can you tell me prplhz is 100% town?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 10 2014 22:00 GMT
#1991
On July 11 2014 06:59 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 06:53 Koshi wrote:
Vivax. Tell me about ghost players.


I saw that the vengeful spirit can figure out if somebody is a ghost or not, there's not much more that I can say about it.

No I meant the kind of ghost players you called thepoofter scum for in World Cup.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 10 2014 22:14 GMT
#1996
On July 11 2014 07:14 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 07:00 Koshi wrote:
On July 11 2014 06:59 Vivax wrote:
On July 11 2014 06:53 Koshi wrote:
Vivax. Tell me about ghost players.


I saw that the vengeful spirit can figure out if somebody is a ghost or not, there's not much more that I can say about it.

No I meant the kind of ghost players you called thepoofter scum for in World Cup.


I would say mderg fits that profile the most, 2 of his scumreads basically vanished within a short time, leaving only forumite, yet I don't see him acting upon that, only discussing stuff revolving around him.

Ok. But can you give me the definition of a ghost "player".
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 10 2014 22:24 GMT
#1999
On July 11 2014 07:09 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 06:58 Koshi wrote:
Vivax can you tell me prplhz is 100% town?


I'm rolling with that at the moment. Can't be 100 % but I don't feel he's the scum I'm looking for when I read his stuff.

Can you give me an interpretation of this post cause I ge the feeling laya wants to scumread VE, and in the second half he wants to scumread mderg, but I'm not really sure. It's quite the salad, but I get the feeling he might be making some important points about the two.

Show nested quote +
On July 10 2014 10:08 layabout wrote:
at page 42 and i can't believe that koshi could head up a wagon

kinda don't want to post properly yet but since you insist kush..
On July 10 2014 09:32 kushm4sta wrote:
On July 10 2014 08:44 mderg wrote:
On Jualy 08 2014 23:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
I actually like yamato and I'm nullish leaning town on prplhz, so I'm actually gonna stop pushing mderg becase A) I'm not getting any support for it and B) because ObiWan is an equally good lynch fmp. So yeah.

##Unvote
##Vote: ObiWanShinobi

This looks really bad to me. Considering how convinced you were of me being scum this unvote was surprisingly easy. I also can´t really grasp your reasons for voting ObiWanShinobi. I think you mentioned him 1 time before that vote and that mention didn´t look like a scumread to me.
So you decide to change your vote from your biggest scumread to someone who somehow is an equally good lynch. There is a lack of explanation and it doesn´t make you look very townie.


Layabout I find your shitting on mderg's post overly simplistic and just untrue.
Look at his reasoning which I quoted. Do you not find that valid? What is scummy about it?


kush the very statement that VE was convinced mderg was scum is untrue.
If you look at VE's posts around the time he is clearly willing to move to Exo could get behind a forumite lynch and is open to nearly anyone that isn't very active as a potential lynch.

Hell look at his vote post:
On July 08 2014 10:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's essentially that he felt the need to come in here and be seen interacting with people in the thread, but didn't say a single thing that could even be construed as an opinion. Everyone else who was active early on has continued to show signs of life, but mderg just made a few throwaway posts and then peaced out.

##Vote: mderg

If anyone's got anything better I'm all ears, but I'm not interested in lynching any super active players at least this phase. It's counterproductive. Active players will eventually give you more to go on.


On July 08 2014 10:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Re: Forumite, I didn't like the reasons he said he was suspicious of Koshi - initially it was because of his fluffy riddle posts at the beginning, and he further went on to say that he "hitched onto" Toad's case on Forumite adding his own "complex reasoning" or whatever. So ultimately that's where his vote is.

And his read on prplhz...like, at first he said like "99% sure" and has described him as confirmed town. And the reasoning he gave is pretty bad - but not one I can really argue with because it's based on a personal metric that may or may not be true.

I want to hear others' thoughts on Forumite. I think ultimately I'd rather wait on him, but I might be convinced to lynch him.



On July 08 2014 10:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 08 2014 10:48 yamato77 wrote:
This thread is depressing.

VE, I read mderg before I went to sleep and didn't feel all that put off by his filter. What posts make you feel like he's just posting to post?

Also, could you read ObiWan for me?

Just that he hasn't posted any opinions of anyone or anything that's happened. Like, the only time he has anything even close to relevant to say, it's in response to people calling him out.

It's mostly a "feels" thing with mderg, but it's a strong "feels" for me. He "feels" scummy to me.
I know you love my "feels".
Click the nested bit!!
mderg says that that isn't "close to a scumread" however, I would say it's a description of scummy behavior making it pretty much "close to a scumread" mderg is either lying or is inattentive.

His actions not only fit but match VE's day1 play in nearly every game i have seen him in. VE's vote typically bounces around all over the place. VE is clearly open to a number of lynches and is actively considering other lynche candidate eg corazon. Mderg's point that VE swapped from a hard read to someone who he didn't think was scummy is also totally misrepresentative.

mderg is not only adding a throwaway point but one that is not valid

If you still aren't convinced about VE give this a read:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?user=VisceraEyes&page=2

mderg addresses VE's switch by suggesting that VE never thought mderg was mafia in the first place
This leaves the idea that VE is mafia and acted knowing that mderg is town,
not just in a way suggest's VE is mafia because mderg thinks VE is mafia. This is making a point in the way mafia might attempt to as they benefit from doing so.

I will likely get onto this later but nothing looked town about obiwan's entrance into the thread and i am surprised it hasn't been jumped on yet
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22528115



I don't understand the point layabout is making.
this part is unreadable:

mderg addresses VE's switch by suggesting that VE never thought mderg was mafia in the first place
This leaves the idea that VE is mafia and acted knowing that mderg is town,
not just in a way suggest's VE is mafia because mderg thinks VE is mafia. This is making a point in the way mafia might attempt to as they benefit from doing so.

I don't even know what he is saying.


Anyway. I think layabout is town. VE is town.
mderg looks so insanely scummy. mderg is clearly overstating the scumread VE has on him. mafia mindset is that mderg does this to proof that VE is scum.

Really bad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 10 2014 22:25 GMT
#2000
On July 11 2014 07:17 layabout wrote:
The point was that VE called mderg scum partly for throwaway posting then leaving mderg did that again and i jumped on it.

kush then said i wasn't looking at mdergs point that VE had a hard read and ditched it for a mislynch

my post was highlighting that mderg point was made in a way to make himself look good whilst attacking ve his accuser and that the thing he was saying about ve was a lie since VE clearly didn't have a hard read and his switch to another target was very predictable

furthermore if you look at mdergs posting today it doesn't exactly say "town agenda"

I think I might have thought this somewhere earlier but my head is so heavy atm and I am so tired. But could you quote some of these posts in which mderg is pushing mafia agenda. Or not town agenda.

Thx.

gn all.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 10 2014 22:29 GMT
#2002
prplhz I made a peace offer in our QT. Please consider opening it one more time.

TOTES SORRY MY TOWN BRO
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 11 2014 09:07 GMT
#2125
Toad just made 5 posts about some theory about why I would Mason prplhz. Or who done it. Or why.

And nothing in his 5 posts is interesting.


Toad gained scumpoints.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 11 2014 09:08 GMT
#2126
BM.

Why did you out our medic?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 11 2014 09:33 GMT
#2129
On July 11 2014 18:24 ExO_ wrote:
So far I think Toad/Layabout/Viscera are town. They are all very actively trying to solve the game and I don't think that mafia would be doing it quite like this at this point.

I'm not sure that I think the case on mderg is that great, but his silence is disturbing. Seems like he's letting the case on him pass hoping the stuff with BM takes over. I'm not sure what to think about him, could flip either way at this point.

But I don't understand why BM would fake claim role block? It doesn't make any sense. And I don't fully understand the masoning stuff happening with Koshi/prplhz could somebody explain to me how that would work?

And I definitely think scum is lurking right now, so I'm suspicious of people such as:

Forumite/Alakaslam/Damdred/HaruRH/layabout

and would like to hear from them in the thread

cuz I liek u.

1) VE/Layabout look pretty town atm. Toad doesn't anymore on D2 but his D1 is pretty good so yeah. 3 townies.

2) the mderg case is pretty good. Check the town agenda post.

3) Nobody does why BM did it. I might have theories but they suck. About Koshi/prplhz, somebody masoned us. End of story.

4) Why is layabout in that list again? Also. Could you give me your read on Alakaslam? What pops in your head when somebody yells ALAKASLAM.
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