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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
July 03 2014 01:02 GMT
#1741
On July 03 2014 09:58 ExO_ wrote:
Alrighty kush, I want you to explain to me how Vivax isn't mafia. I'm convinced 100% he's mafia. With his words against palmar at the start, ignoring logic on why mderg couldn't be scum, trying to associate himself with the confirmed townie's (koshi) reads, he's scum.

What makes you think he isn't? Because he's the scummiest person in the game right now, and he's thrown pocket sand in the eyes of everybody here.


lol exo i love your metaphors.

vivax can't be scum because look at all the shit he wrote trying to figure out the game. That is what is hard for scum to do, and vivax is doing it so much. If vivax is scum that would be the single greatest scum performance I've ever seen.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
July 03 2014 01:05 GMT
#1742
exo you are suffering from confirmation bias hard. The evidence you are using are not reliable indicators of someone being scummy. Like an association with koshi?? that's just how he acts as town.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
July 03 2014 01:05 GMT
#1743
Both NKd townies had Cav as scumread.so far.

Make of it what you will.

I think this game it would be a mistake to assume that town must have a cop.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
July 03 2014 01:05 GMT
#1744
On July 03 2014 10:01 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 09:59 Rainbows wrote:
saying probably is basically saying you think he is the cop. ofc you don't know 100% unless you're scum, but saying probably means you're heavily leaning that way


But saying it like I'm stating it as fact is misconstruing it. I also was happily believing when Robik claimed during resolution without pause. If I "know" Cav is cop that I don't think would be my reaction. Maybe but I doubt it.

The point is if your argument against me is that I "know" cav is the cop and am stating it as fact you're incorrect. Its what I think. Like I THOUGHT you were town until today and the way you're buddying Vivax at lylo and instantly sheeping Kush is hella scummy.

Rainbows/Vivax/X scum team 2014.


I'm not buddying with Vivax -.- He just isn't someone I want to lynch today because he's been on my townie list since day 1. Like, I don't understand why people want to lynch the most active player.
I don't think you can realize this if you're not town. I've had reason to believe that someone is town. Then someone at mylo is pushing a campaign to lynch them. It feels wrong, like, that guy has a completely different read with the same information that I do.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
July 03 2014 01:06 GMT
#1745
On July 03 2014 09:59 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 09:51 Tehpoofter wrote:
On July 03 2014 09:35 kushm4sta wrote:
so poofter, your most scummy is the person with the most and deepest analysis?


The way he has interacted with Cav and his claim makes me think that he has not had a logical townie train of thought.


This is bullshit and I explained why I found Cava scummy a multitude of times, starting from his post timings to him saying scum was on his wagon but not displaying that in his actions afterwards.

If you want to figure me out then confront me with that instead of spouting shitty generalized nonsense.


If you thought that X was Y alignment because of Z and I thought that train of thought was shitty I would say that I didn't think it was coming from a townie perspective. It is a generalization but its how I feel. Basically from what Cav was saying and how he was acting he didn't seem like scum who was forced to fake claim but town who AGAIN had to claim as cop day 1 this time he barely didn't get lynched.



kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
July 03 2014 01:06 GMT
#1746
On July 03 2014 10:05 Vivax wrote:
Both NKd townies had Cav as scumread.so far.

Make of it what you will.

I think this game it would be a mistake to assume that town must have a cop.


That's not what im assuming. Im assuming town has more than 1 pr.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
July 03 2014 01:07 GMT
#1747
On July 03 2014 10:02 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 09:58 ExO_ wrote:
Alrighty kush, I want you to explain to me how Vivax isn't mafia. I'm convinced 100% he's mafia. With his words against palmar at the start, ignoring logic on why mderg couldn't be scum, trying to associate himself with the confirmed townie's (koshi) reads, he's scum.

What makes you think he isn't? Because he's the scummiest person in the game right now, and he's thrown pocket sand in the eyes of everybody here.


lol exo i love your metaphors.

vivax can't be scum because look at all the shit he wrote trying to figure out the game. That is what is hard for scum to do, and vivax is doing it so much. If vivax is scum that would be the single greatest scum performance I've ever seen.


He isn't trying to solve the game, he's constantly asking other people to do it for him.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
July 03 2014 01:07 GMT
#1748
HaruRH I am less sure of as town than Vivax, but my townread on him references stuff that I literally cannot talk about.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
July 03 2014 01:08 GMT
#1749
On July 03 2014 10:05 Vivax wrote:
Both NKd townies had Cav as scumread.so far.

Make of it what you will.

I think this game it would be a mistake to assume that town must have a cop.


I have yet to play a game on this forums where there wasn't a cop in the game that I can recall. Especially with 13 players.

My point is that if someone else brought up "hey vivax has these reads they were the same as dead town maybe he is a good guy" vs "HEY GUYS LOOK I HAVE THE SAME READS AS THE DEAD CONFIRM ME PLEASE"
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
July 03 2014 01:08 GMT
#1750
On July 03 2014 10:07 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 10:02 kushm4sta wrote:
On July 03 2014 09:58 ExO_ wrote:
Alrighty kush, I want you to explain to me how Vivax isn't mafia. I'm convinced 100% he's mafia. With his words against palmar at the start, ignoring logic on why mderg couldn't be scum, trying to associate himself with the confirmed townie's (koshi) reads, he's scum.

What makes you think he isn't? Because he's the scummiest person in the game right now, and he's thrown pocket sand in the eyes of everybody here.


lol exo i love your metaphors.

vivax can't be scum because look at all the shit he wrote trying to figure out the game. That is what is hard for scum to do, and vivax is doing it so much. If vivax is scum that would be the single greatest scum performance I've ever seen.


He isn't trying to solve the game, he's constantly asking other people to do it for him.

vivax asks a lot of questions as town. I know this from experience.
He definitely is trying to figure out the game though. His filter has soo many posts of him trying to figure out hte game.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
July 03 2014 01:09 GMT
#1751
On July 03 2014 10:06 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 09:59 Vivax wrote:
On July 03 2014 09:51 Tehpoofter wrote:
On July 03 2014 09:35 kushm4sta wrote:
so poofter, your most scummy is the person with the most and deepest analysis?


The way he has interacted with Cav and his claim makes me think that he has not had a logical townie train of thought.


This is bullshit and I explained why I found Cava scummy a multitude of times, starting from his post timings to him saying scum was on his wagon but not displaying that in his actions afterwards.

If you want to figure me out then confront me with that instead of spouting shitty generalized nonsense.


If you thought that X was Y alignment because of Z and I thought that train of thought was shitty I would say that I didn't think it was coming from a townie perspective. It is a generalization but its how I feel. Basically from what Cav was saying and how he was acting he didn't seem like scum who was forced to fake claim but town who AGAIN had to claim as cop day 1 this time he barely didn't get lynched.


Except that you don't explain how exactly it's shitty, and 2 NKd townies so far felt the same about Cav.
You must obviously be the pro and mafia kills all the baddies first.

Go ahead and explain what happened to Cav's scumread of OO after he said he must've been on his wagon and called him rainbows scumbuddy.

You lack either reading comprehension or aren't trying to figure out the stuff I wrote in my post.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
July 03 2014 01:09 GMT
#1752
On July 03 2014 10:05 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 10:01 Tehpoofter wrote:
On July 03 2014 09:59 Rainbows wrote:
saying probably is basically saying you think he is the cop. ofc you don't know 100% unless you're scum, but saying probably means you're heavily leaning that way


But saying it like I'm stating it as fact is misconstruing it. I also was happily believing when Robik claimed during resolution without pause. If I "know" Cav is cop that I don't think would be my reaction. Maybe but I doubt it.

The point is if your argument against me is that I "know" cav is the cop and am stating it as fact you're incorrect. Its what I think. Like I THOUGHT you were town until today and the way you're buddying Vivax at lylo and instantly sheeping Kush is hella scummy.

Rainbows/Vivax/X scum team 2014.


I'm not buddying with Vivax -.- He just isn't someone I want to lynch today because he's been on my townie list since day 1. Like, I don't understand why people want to lynch the most active player.
I don't think you can realize this if you're not town. I've had reason to believe that someone is town. Then someone at mylo is pushing a campaign to lynch them. It feels wrong, like, that guy has a completely different read with the same information that I do.


When town is constantly mislynching a decent chunk of the time its because the active members are the mafia. Order had HF/Round as active mafia as well as Chrom day 1.

Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
July 03 2014 01:13 GMT
#1753
On July 03 2014 10:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 10:05 Rainbows wrote:
On July 03 2014 10:01 Tehpoofter wrote:
On July 03 2014 09:59 Rainbows wrote:
saying probably is basically saying you think he is the cop. ofc you don't know 100% unless you're scum, but saying probably means you're heavily leaning that way


But saying it like I'm stating it as fact is misconstruing it. I also was happily believing when Robik claimed during resolution without pause. If I "know" Cav is cop that I don't think would be my reaction. Maybe but I doubt it.

The point is if your argument against me is that I "know" cav is the cop and am stating it as fact you're incorrect. Its what I think. Like I THOUGHT you were town until today and the way you're buddying Vivax at lylo and instantly sheeping Kush is hella scummy.

Rainbows/Vivax/X scum team 2014.


I'm not buddying with Vivax -.- He just isn't someone I want to lynch today because he's been on my townie list since day 1. Like, I don't understand why people want to lynch the most active player.
I don't think you can realize this if you're not town. I've had reason to believe that someone is town. Then someone at mylo is pushing a campaign to lynch them. It feels wrong, like, that guy has a completely different read with the same information that I do.


When town is constantly mislynching a decent chunk of the time its because the active members are the mafia. Order had HF/Round as active mafia as well as Chrom day 1.



HF didn't do shit the entire game and Chrom stopped being active after day 2. It also had guys like Chairman who I scumread since day 1 but nobody lynched him the entire game even after i died.

You know why? Because scum didn't want to lynch him, there was so much resistance to a CR lynch. And I'm feeling resistance to an ExO lynch. Like, I feel if ExO were town scum would just pile on him but I haven't seen more than 1-2 votes on him ever. So, therefore, I'm going with my original assumption.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
July 03 2014 01:16 GMT
#1754
On July 03 2014 10:09 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 10:06 Tehpoofter wrote:
On July 03 2014 09:59 Vivax wrote:
On July 03 2014 09:51 Tehpoofter wrote:
On July 03 2014 09:35 kushm4sta wrote:
so poofter, your most scummy is the person with the most and deepest analysis?


The way he has interacted with Cav and his claim makes me think that he has not had a logical townie train of thought.


This is bullshit and I explained why I found Cava scummy a multitude of times, starting from his post timings to him saying scum was on his wagon but not displaying that in his actions afterwards.

If you want to figure me out then confront me with that instead of spouting shitty generalized nonsense.


If you thought that X was Y alignment because of Z and I thought that train of thought was shitty I would say that I didn't think it was coming from a townie perspective. It is a generalization but its how I feel. Basically from what Cav was saying and how he was acting he didn't seem like scum who was forced to fake claim but town who AGAIN had to claim as cop day 1 this time he barely didn't get lynched.


Except that you don't explain how exactly it's shitty, and 2 NKd townies so far felt the same about Cav.
You must obviously be the pro and mafia kills all the baddies first.

Go ahead and explain what happened to Cav's scumread of OO after he said he must've been on his wagon and called him rainbows scumbuddy.

You lack either reading comprehension or aren't trying to figure out the stuff I wrote in my post.


I don't say because in my head if you don't think the same as me its not townie. I know one person's alignment... mine and I know how I think and I think he is likely town if you think differently to me I think thats weird. I can be wrong and will be wrong have already on mderg. I haven't liked you since day 1. Kush apparently thinks you're town so I probably just lose to you if you're mafia at this point because all town needs to vote together.

I read just fine thanks. As for Cav's scumread can you link the post I don't recall that part.

I think you're scummy and we probably just lose because you've been active I can only hope we hit one of your partners.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
July 03 2014 01:16 GMT
#1755
rainbows, only person resisting the exo lynch is me and vivax and we are town.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
July 03 2014 01:16 GMT
#1756
On July 03 2014 10:13 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 10:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
On July 03 2014 10:05 Rainbows wrote:
On July 03 2014 10:01 Tehpoofter wrote:
On July 03 2014 09:59 Rainbows wrote:
saying probably is basically saying you think he is the cop. ofc you don't know 100% unless you're scum, but saying probably means you're heavily leaning that way


But saying it like I'm stating it as fact is misconstruing it. I also was happily believing when Robik claimed during resolution without pause. If I "know" Cav is cop that I don't think would be my reaction. Maybe but I doubt it.

The point is if your argument against me is that I "know" cav is the cop and am stating it as fact you're incorrect. Its what I think. Like I THOUGHT you were town until today and the way you're buddying Vivax at lylo and instantly sheeping Kush is hella scummy.

Rainbows/Vivax/X scum team 2014.


I'm not buddying with Vivax -.- He just isn't someone I want to lynch today because he's been on my townie list since day 1. Like, I don't understand why people want to lynch the most active player.
I don't think you can realize this if you're not town. I've had reason to believe that someone is town. Then someone at mylo is pushing a campaign to lynch them. It feels wrong, like, that guy has a completely different read with the same information that I do.


When town is constantly mislynching a decent chunk of the time its because the active members are the mafia. Order had HF/Round as active mafia as well as Chrom day 1.



HF didn't do shit the entire game and Chrom stopped being active after day 2. It also had guys like Chairman who I scumread since day 1 but nobody lynched him the entire game even after i died.

You know why? Because scum didn't want to lynch him, there was so much resistance to a CR lynch. And I'm feeling resistance to an ExO lynch. Like, I feel if ExO were town scum would just pile on him but I haven't seen more than 1-2 votes on him ever. So, therefore, I'm going with my original assumption.


The main resistance is Me and Kush though and I know I'm town and I think he is vigi.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
July 03 2014 01:17 GMT
#1757
and 2 pages of no reads and sliding by until last night. As scum he needs to be active now at lylo to misguide townies.

It makes sense in my head, the actions and reactions. Problem is I could be wrong, and that would suck. But I'd rather be wrong than let someone else choose if I'm wrong.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
July 03 2014 01:18 GMT
#1758
On July 03 2014 10:16 kushm4sta wrote:
rainbows, only person resisting the exo lynch is me and vivax and we are town.


You misunderstand. Yesterday there wasn't more than my vote and vivax's vote on him, nobody switched off of Haru / Mderg. It feels like haru and mderg were the two town wagons and vivax/me had something but no scum wanted to touch their scumbuddy.

People don't have to be actively saying 'no, don't lynch him' for it to be resisted.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
July 03 2014 01:20 GMT
#1759
Ugh I have to consider if Haru is scum. fml.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
July 03 2014 01:21 GMT
#1760
On July 03 2014 10:16 kushm4sta wrote:
rainbows, only person resisting the exo lynch is me and vivax and we are town.


I'm not resisting it.
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