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Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 30 2014 02:46 GMT
#1181
On June 30 2014 11:44 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 11:43 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 29 2014 03:41 ObviousOne wrote:
I just need to say something. As with most of the times I've played, My mood is the most crazy thing about me. There's also always the challenge of being scrutinized by people who would rather just fling accusations instead of interrogate, which just pisses me off rightly. However, this game, it's a bit of both. Everyone who is calling me scum is doing it without an interrogation, which when I started this game I promised myself I was going to try to play that way. Doesn't look like that's going to work out this game, even with the small number of players, because 40 posts a day of content like that is just not possible for me without seriously cutting into my terraria time. Other than interrogation, my preferred method is just to be left alone to make observations and put them in the thread. Can't do that if you're just going to call me mafia without that conversation, so I just get pissed again. There's one thing you can do right now and it's this: Offer me questions about other people or stop calling me mafia. Really, that's it.

Capiche?


This is where I'm at in the thread but I hate this post. Its not long after OO votes on Cav who was voted on by Kush/Koshi... While kush/koshi are trying to push for votes on cav. OO is more concerned about explaining himself and not being seen as mafia than getting people to vote his scum read. Not a fan. Also Koshi calling him scummy at least 2-3 times I noticed...

Back to the reading.

My eyes are up here stop looking at my boobs


Maybe your eyes are shitty and lol I looked at your next post and its what I wanted thanks for preemptively being townie.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
June 30 2014 02:47 GMT
#1182
On June 30 2014 11:46 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 11:44 ObviousOne wrote:
On June 30 2014 11:43 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 29 2014 03:41 ObviousOne wrote:
I just need to say something. As with most of the times I've played, My mood is the most crazy thing about me. There's also always the challenge of being scrutinized by people who would rather just fling accusations instead of interrogate, which just pisses me off rightly. However, this game, it's a bit of both. Everyone who is calling me scum is doing it without an interrogation, which when I started this game I promised myself I was going to try to play that way. Doesn't look like that's going to work out this game, even with the small number of players, because 40 posts a day of content like that is just not possible for me without seriously cutting into my terraria time. Other than interrogation, my preferred method is just to be left alone to make observations and put them in the thread. Can't do that if you're just going to call me mafia without that conversation, so I just get pissed again. There's one thing you can do right now and it's this: Offer me questions about other people or stop calling me mafia. Really, that's it.

Capiche?


This is where I'm at in the thread but I hate this post. Its not long after OO votes on Cav who was voted on by Kush/Koshi... While kush/koshi are trying to push for votes on cav. OO is more concerned about explaining himself and not being seen as mafia than getting people to vote his scum read. Not a fan. Also Koshi calling him scummy at least 2-3 times I noticed...

Back to the reading.

My eyes are up here stop looking at my boobs


Maybe your eyes are shitty and lol I looked at your next post and its what I wanted thanks for preemptively being townie.

You're welcome. You're gonna be mad when you see my POE post. Sorry ahead of time.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
June 30 2014 02:50 GMT
#1183
I'm going on an adventure into the korean music discussion thread

pray for me
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 30 2014 02:51 GMT
#1184
On June 30 2014 11:47 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 11:46 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 30 2014 11:44 ObviousOne wrote:
On June 30 2014 11:43 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 29 2014 03:41 ObviousOne wrote:
I just need to say something. As with most of the times I've played, My mood is the most crazy thing about me. There's also always the challenge of being scrutinized by people who would rather just fling accusations instead of interrogate, which just pisses me off rightly. However, this game, it's a bit of both. Everyone who is calling me scum is doing it without an interrogation, which when I started this game I promised myself I was going to try to play that way. Doesn't look like that's going to work out this game, even with the small number of players, because 40 posts a day of content like that is just not possible for me without seriously cutting into my terraria time. Other than interrogation, my preferred method is just to be left alone to make observations and put them in the thread. Can't do that if you're just going to call me mafia without that conversation, so I just get pissed again. There's one thing you can do right now and it's this: Offer me questions about other people or stop calling me mafia. Really, that's it.

Capiche?


This is where I'm at in the thread but I hate this post. Its not long after OO votes on Cav who was voted on by Kush/Koshi... While kush/koshi are trying to push for votes on cav. OO is more concerned about explaining himself and not being seen as mafia than getting people to vote his scum read. Not a fan. Also Koshi calling him scummy at least 2-3 times I noticed...

Back to the reading.

My eyes are up here stop looking at my boobs


Maybe your eyes are shitty and lol I looked at your next post and its what I wanted thanks for preemptively being townie.

You're welcome. You're gonna be mad when you see my POE post. Sorry ahead of time.


Only if I'm not in it I've basically played to my scum meta which I hate because I'd rather make my scum game look like my town instead of the other. I'd look at people who are calling me townie tbh that have played more than 1-2 scum games with me.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
June 30 2014 03:03 GMT
#1185
On June 30 2014 11:50 ObviousOne wrote:
I'm going on an adventure into the korean music discussion thread

pray for me

nvm nope nope nope

there is some borderline creeper level shit in there
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
June 30 2014 03:41 GMT
#1186
On June 30 2014 09:17 kushm4sta wrote:
robik why are you lying about being vig? why are you lying about shooting palmar?

Cause I've lied about a lot of things this game. I'm trying to gauge reactions and trying to figure shit out in my own way. I said palmar was 100% town... so if someone other than mafia killed him, then town fucking sucks
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
June 30 2014 03:46 GMT
#1187
On June 30 2014 10:17 kushm4sta wrote:
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On June 30 2014 10:10 ObviousOne wrote:
wait so town shot palmar? two vig claims? can we just lynch both of them for being functionally retarded?


thanks bro...

about robik's claim. Im pretty sure it's a lie but I really dont understand wtf he is doing.

As for shooting palmar, he looked scummy as fuck. All night long I was like WHY IS PALMAR TOWN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME. No one did. I Said why I thought palmar was scummy, no one responded. I think it was a fine vig shot.

But nice job defending palmar after the fact. I'm currently thinking either you or poofter must be scum, due to balance. You could both be scum honestly.

~~~
Maybe we shouldn't kill cav actually until the other PR is ready to claim. hmmm. I think haru is very scummy it looks like he is setting himself up to vote mderg after cav flips scum.
##unvote

~~~

But yeah rob needs to get back in here and straight talk with me.

I'm here. I told you.
I just thought about the fact (maybe it was subconscious when i did it) that mafia wouldn't have killed palmar, so some fucking baddie vigi must have shot him thinking palmar was scum for no reason other than palmar didn't really do towny stuff (but he didn't do mafia stuff either).
So yeah, that's kinda where my head was at, so I claimed the shot on him. But yeah, I mentioned it before. Palmar was town. Before the flip and after.
Sinani I was wrong about, but siniani actually did mafia stuff...so you can't blame me for wanting him dead
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
June 30 2014 03:47 GMT
#1188
On June 30 2014 10:25 ObviousOne wrote:
Would he have looked terrible for taking it back? I guess it wouldn't matter based on the rear of his play so I'll take that potential reason away.

A wagon he wanted to stay committed to and knew he could get away with rising all the way? Fits together with his attitude this game perhaps that's just a persona?

He seemed legit pissed about town derping in Order

He's derpin here

I would say that it's points against him on that front. Is that enough?

Man, I sitll am happy we killed him. Like dude was scummy as all fuck. I prolly wouldn't have jumped on him as hard and pushed as hard had it not been solidified by his unvote of me...that's when I said "oh man, this should be good" or something along those lines cause there was no way he could explain himself from voting me to unvoting me in that period.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
June 30 2014 04:03 GMT
#1189
On June 30 2014 12:47 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 10:25 ObviousOne wrote:
Would he have looked terrible for taking it back? I guess it wouldn't matter based on the rear of his play so I'll take that potential reason away.

A wagon he wanted to stay committed to and knew he could get away with rising all the way? Fits together with his attitude this game perhaps that's just a persona?

He seemed legit pissed about town derping in Order

He's derpin here

I would say that it's points against him on that front. Is that enough?

Man, I sitll am happy we killed him. Like dude was scummy as all fuck. I prolly wouldn't have jumped on him as hard and pushed as hard had it not been solidified by his unvote of me...that's when I said "oh man, this should be good" or something along those lines cause there was no way he could explain himself from voting me to unvoting me in that period.

gonna put the cart before the horse here for a second, lol

if you use that heuristic on me you're gonna have a bad time. my town game is mystical and whimsical, if you want to see what my scum game is like there are a couple examples in my profile. i'm proud of my game in catch 22 even though i lost (also shoutout to DP and rayn, rip in peace bros)
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
June 30 2014 04:50 GMT
#1190
On June 30 2014 13:03 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 12:47 IAmRobik wrote:
On June 30 2014 10:25 ObviousOne wrote:
Would he have looked terrible for taking it back? I guess it wouldn't matter based on the rear of his play so I'll take that potential reason away.

A wagon he wanted to stay committed to and knew he could get away with rising all the way? Fits together with his attitude this game perhaps that's just a persona?

He seemed legit pissed about town derping in Order

He's derpin here

I would say that it's points against him on that front. Is that enough?

Man, I sitll am happy we killed him. Like dude was scummy as all fuck. I prolly wouldn't have jumped on him as hard and pushed as hard had it not been solidified by his unvote of me...that's when I said "oh man, this should be good" or something along those lines cause there was no way he could explain himself from voting me to unvoting me in that period.

gonna put the cart before the horse here for a second, lol

if you use that heuristic on me you're gonna have a bad time. my town game is mystical and whimsical, if you want to see what my scum game is like there are a couple examples in my profile. i'm proud of my game in catch 22 even though i lost (also shoutout to DP and rayn, rip in peace bros)

wtf you talkinga bout. I was talking about sinani...i thought you were kinda town
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
June 30 2014 05:13 GMT
#1191
On June 30 2014 13:50 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 13:03 ObviousOne wrote:
On June 30 2014 12:47 IAmRobik wrote:
On June 30 2014 10:25 ObviousOne wrote:
Would he have looked terrible for taking it back? I guess it wouldn't matter based on the rear of his play so I'll take that potential reason away.

A wagon he wanted to stay committed to and knew he could get away with rising all the way? Fits together with his attitude this game perhaps that's just a persona?

He seemed legit pissed about town derping in Order

He's derpin here

I would say that it's points against him on that front. Is that enough?

Man, I sitll am happy we killed him. Like dude was scummy as all fuck. I prolly wouldn't have jumped on him as hard and pushed as hard had it not been solidified by his unvote of me...that's when I said "oh man, this should be good" or something along those lines cause there was no way he could explain himself from voting me to unvoting me in that period.

gonna put the cart before the horse here for a second, lol

if you use that heuristic on me you're gonna have a bad time. my town game is mystical and whimsical, if you want to see what my scum game is like there are a couple examples in my profile. i'm proud of my game in catch 22 even though i lost (also shoutout to DP and rayn, rip in peace bros)

wtf you talkinga bout. I was talking about sinani...i thought you were kinda town

you described a way in which you could identify someone as mafia -- unexplained vote changes. i'm pretty good at that kind of irresponsible behavior. think of it as me, sharing.

sharing is caring
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 30 2014 05:29 GMT
#1192
Good news boys I'll fully caught up Yesterday's lynch was really interesting. I think flipping Cav could give us a lot of information but I'm actually on the believing his claim side of things.

Townville: Tehpoofter

Kush - Claiming vigi and actually seems to give a fuck this game, is reaching out to people in thread like myself to play up, never lynching.
Rainbows- I liked your posts midway through yesterday and today as well as your huge post in the night. My big question is why did you stay on Cav at EoD? I still don't think you'd be anywhere near my lynch list today.


Robik - Day 1 was super townie he was doing a bunch of stuff that looks scummy as fuck but from my experience with him is most likely to be town. I will say that him being scum in order surprised me so I moved him down today for a couple things in the fact that he is falling off a bit and he claimed the shot from kush before kush claimed it was his shot. Now I feel like if he thought there was only one mafia kill Palmer was less likely to be a mafia target than Koshi but still could have been a TMI slip
OO - He gets into the town because reading his posts anytime he did something I found scummy he followed it up with towniness. I even have a post where I thoguht he was scum then his next post put me at ease.


People who confuse me:
Vivax - His thing with Palmer early day 1 felt really scummy and I didn't really care for his EoD but his conversation he had with mderg mid day as well as others trying it seemed to talk to whoever about a couple of people felt less tunneled than he was being on Palmer. Maybe he just backed off staying tunneled on Palmer because I called him out or maybe he is town idk Cop check this person imo.

People that are really bad at playing cop or mafia:
Cav - If you're cop stop claiming on day 1 please lord. This feels like your newbie game when you had to claim and still got lynched. I am okay leaving you alive for now because if you're cop mafia might kill you or just spam rb and if you keep claiming rb and someone else gets rb you're basically confirmed mafia so even if you're mafia mafia is out their RB ability so town can do as they please basically.


People who need to have a date with a big fire:
Exo - This guys vote at EoD is really weird he pops in it at odd times and I feel like he doesn't know what to say. I think this is like a classic mafia tell. They know they should talk but don't know what to say. I think that him saying he got a warning for activity and talking about how things are all spammy and he needs to write down his ideas is an easy thing for scum to do. He seems upset he has to post which I don't see as townie. Also I feel like in a world where
Mderg - I always find mderg's play awkward and scummy hes in the same boat as Vivax in my opinion but I feel like vivax has done some townie things. Mderg has not his EoD was really weird I feel like he didn't really mind who got lynched. Which makes me think Cav is more town if Mderg is mafia.
Haru - Instantly comes out with the vote on Cav if it turns out Cav is mafia I feel like this is exactly what he would do. I also liked someone's point that it felt like he was going to transition from a cav red to an mderg lynch which is the kind of planning I feel like scum do more than town. I lynched him last game because of his playstyle so I'm most hesitant about this read.


I'm out for a bit playing dailymafia.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
June 30 2014 05:37 GMT
#1193
On June 30 2014 14:29 Tehpoofter wrote:
Good news boys I'll fully caught up Yesterday's lynch was really interesting. I think flipping Cav could give us a lot of information but I'm actually on the believing his claim side of things.

Townville: Tehpoofter

Kush - Claiming vigi and actually seems to give a fuck this game, is reaching out to people in thread like myself to play up, never lynching.
Rainbows- I liked your posts midway through yesterday and today as well as your huge post in the night. My big question is why did you stay on Cav at EoD? I still don't think you'd be anywhere near my lynch list today.


Robik - Day 1 was super townie he was doing a bunch of stuff that looks scummy as fuck but from my experience with him is most likely to be town. I will say that him being scum in order surprised me so I moved him down today for a couple things in the fact that he is falling off a bit and he claimed the shot from kush before kush claimed it was his shot. Now I feel like if he thought there was only one mafia kill Palmer was less likely to be a mafia target than Koshi but still could have been a TMI slip
OO - He gets into the town because reading his posts anytime he did something I found scummy he followed it up with towniness. I even have a post where I thoguht he was scum then his next post put me at ease.


People who confuse me:
Vivax - His thing with Palmer early day 1 felt really scummy and I didn't really care for his EoD but his conversation he had with mderg mid day as well as others trying it seemed to talk to whoever about a couple of people felt less tunneled than he was being on Palmer. Maybe he just backed off staying tunneled on Palmer because I called him out or maybe he is town idk Cop check this person imo.

People that are really bad at playing cop or mafia:
Cav - If you're cop stop claiming on day 1 please lord. This feels like your newbie game when you had to claim and still got lynched. I am okay leaving you alive for now because if you're cop mafia might kill you or just spam rb and if you keep claiming rb and someone else gets rb you're basically confirmed mafia so even if you're mafia mafia is out their RB ability so town can do as they please basically.


People who need to have a date with a big fire:
Exo - This guys vote at EoD is really weird he pops in it at odd times and I feel like he doesn't know what to say. I think this is like a classic mafia tell. They know they should talk but don't know what to say. I think that him saying he got a warning for activity and talking about how things are all spammy and he needs to write down his ideas is an easy thing for scum to do. He seems upset he has to post which I don't see as townie. Also I feel like in a world where
Mderg - I always find mderg's play awkward and scummy hes in the same boat as Vivax in my opinion but I feel like vivax has done some townie things. Mderg has not his EoD was really weird I feel like he didn't really mind who got lynched. Which makes me think Cav is more town if Mderg is mafia.
Haru - Instantly comes out with the vote on Cav if it turns out Cav is mafia I feel like this is exactly what he would do. I also liked someone's point that it felt like he was going to transition from a cav red to an mderg lynch which is the kind of planning I feel like scum do more than town. I lynched him last game because of his playstyle so I'm most hesitant about this read.


I'm out for a bit playing dailymafia.


You didn't finish your thought on me, which I find odd. But look at my play in Order and when and where and how I said things. You'll notice I didn't say a lot unless I had something to say. Mod told me he's going to kill me for inactivity on day 2 though, so here I am
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
June 30 2014 05:45 GMT
#1194
okay poof is gone let's all talk shit

anyone else think it's counter-productive to intentionally play as if you're scum? i think that's what you just told me, that or i'm super in need of nicotine or something stronger like jameson. for real though as an afterthought (the kind that occurs after finishing an episode of criminal minds) i would like to know how you personally would describe your scum-meta poofter



in other news i rescind my imaginary but implied townboner read on vivax for not being here solving the game for me but not far enough to put an m next to his name
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
June 30 2014 05:50 GMT
#1195
guys

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/460635-putting-on-pants-without-using-hands

omg yes

big ups to chairman ray
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
June 30 2014 13:26 GMT
#1196
On June 30 2014 08:13 IAmRobik wrote:
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On June 30 2014 08:12 IAmRobik wrote:
If Kush really shot palmar he's an idiot.

In fact, he's dumber than he claims I am, cause there was nothing palmar did that was scummy, whereas EVERYTHIGN that sinani did was scummy

I lol´d. I guess there was some reason why he could have been scum but he was certainly not as scummy as you make him out to be.
Considering the kush´s post before the shot it seems very likely that it was him who shot Palmar.

On June 30 2014 08:29 Cavalinho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 08:13 IAmRobik wrote:
cava isn't cop btw.

but we can leave him alive for a bit longer


Look, the people doubting me here need to fucking stop. I just had my role outed and was nearly lynched for the third time in a row. I just lost all of my checks and I'm a likely mislynch at some point because I had a shitty day 1. I can take responsibility for playing as badly as I did, but I've played my hand and the fact that people can doubt me at this point is ridiculous. I am the cop, and I'm uncc'd. The reason for that is, shockingly, because I am actually the cop.

Also, since I'm making a giant post, I might as well map out what we're doing today:

We're not lynching anyone on sinani.
We find the scum hiding on my bandwagon from yesterday.
We lynch them.

My wagon yesterday was so obviously scum-driven that it pains me to listen to people make me out as mafia. Everytime I disappeared, people just went nuts and I couldn't deal with the fallout. I'd like someone to sit down and give me one, one good reason as to why we shouldn't believe me.

I'm going to have a bunch of questions ready for people to answer as soon as I can, but I'm not leaving until we squash this shit right here and now.

That logic is heavily flawed. If you´re town, scum didn´t really care which one of you two got lynched. You (assuming you are cop) are almost the same as a vt, so scum wouldn´t have anything to fear from you.

On June 30 2014 09:52 Rainbows wrote:
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On June 28 2014 03:43 mderg wrote:
Did anyone really think Robik actually scumslipped? The supposed slips were so obvious (how they were in brackets and such). It makes one wonder why sinani and Rainbow disappeared after that.

So Robik is probably town. Like no sane scum would do that.



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On June 28 2014 03:52 mderg wrote:
I don´t think any town would have put a serious vote on you and he seemed to be serious and even disappeared after that. That looks really scummy.


Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 19:44 mderg wrote:
On June 28 2014 19:31 Vivax wrote:
On June 28 2014 19:25 mderg wrote:
On June 28 2014 19:17 Vivax wrote:
Mderg I'm curious though why you didn't talk about Koshi or Cava yet. Sure, Exo shines by inactivity on top of his reaction but even then it would be just 1 of 3 scum if we're right. Don't you have a read on those two already?

I have a hard time reading koshi. His reaction to Palmar´s case on you is strange but I don´t get the scummy vibes from him. I also don´t think his non reaction to Robik´s supposed scumslip is scummy. So I don´t really know what to think of him.

Cav is a bit suspicious for 2 things, wanting to lynch between you and Palmar and not explaining his Robik vote/not unvoting immediately. Both are kinda suspicious but I could imagine him doing that as town, so I don´t think he should be lynched day 1.


So now that you changed your mind about sinani which two people would you lynch aside from Exo if you had the choice.

I´ve always hated this question

Probably Cav but I wouldn´t want him lynched today.
Maybe haru because his play seems different from the only? game I´ve played with him. In Detention mafia his posts seemed more analytical. It would be more of a shot in the dark, though.

I also don´t like Robik that much anymore since he made this trap which is actually more likely to make townies look bad than scum.


Mderg, can you explain the line of thinking? You go from "Robik = town because fakeslip" and "No town would put a serious vote on Robik, that's scummy"

to

"Robik = scum because fakeslip" and "townies would totally put a serious vote on Robik"

If robiks trap is more likely to make townies look bad, then the voters on him are town putting down the serious vote. What changed your opinion?

Vivax´s analysis of the situation changed my opinion. Others also said that they thought it was an actual scumslip, so I figured that I probably was wrong about that.
The trap seems to have caught some townies, sinani would not have been lynched without this and kush who is most likely vig also thought Robik slipped. So from what we know at least 2 townies fell for the trap and we didn´t catch any scum with this.

Accomplishments of Robik´s shenanigans so far:
mislynching sinani
calling us all idiots
figuring out that kush shot Palmar and calling it stupid (would probably have happened without the fakeclaim)

His shenanigans definitely didn´t help town so far.

On June 30 2014 10:17 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 10:10 ObviousOne wrote:
wait so town shot palmar? two vig claims? can we just lynch both of them for being functionally retarded?


thanks bro...

about robik's claim. Im pretty sure it's a lie but I really dont understand wtf he is doing.

As for shooting palmar, he looked scummy as fuck. All night long I was like WHY IS PALMAR TOWN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME. No one did. I Said why I thought palmar was scummy, no one responded. I think it was a fine vig shot.

But nice job defending palmar after the fact. I'm currently thinking either you or poofter must be scum, due to balance. You could both be scum honestly.

~~~
Maybe we shouldn't kill cav actually until the other PR is ready to claim. hmmm. I think haru is very scummy it looks like he is setting himself up to vote mderg after cav flips scum.
##unvote

~~~

But yeah rob needs to get back in here and straight talk with me.

I agree that there wasn´t anything that really made Palmar town. But there was also nothing that really made him scummy. His "I don´t give a fuck D1 attitude" wasn´t really alignment indicative.

Good point about haru. His posts don´t make me believe that he thinks cav is scum over me, yet he´s voting cav. Because it´s almost a necessity that cav flips cop to get me lynched easily.

On June 30 2014 11:30 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 10:19 kushm4sta wrote:
* haru setting himself up to lynch mderg after cav flips town


Kush scumslips

##Unvote
##Vote: Kush


His vote on me is completely hinging on the fact that cav flips town. What confidence.

how can he be scum when he is pretty much confirmed vig?
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
June 30 2014 13:26 GMT
#1197
On June 30 2014 00:44 HaruRH wrote:
Mderg's vote analysis

Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 06:03 Holyflare wrote:
Vote Count - Day 1:


Palmar (0): Vivax, sinani206
Vivax (0): Palmar
sinani206 (6): mderg, HaruRH, IAmRobik, Cavalinho, Cavalinho, HaruRH, Tehpoofter, Cavalinho, Palmar, Koshi, HaruRH, Koshi, mderg, ExO_
Tehpoofter (0): kushm4sta, Koshi
kushm4sta (0): IAmRobik, Koshi, Cavalinho
IAmRobik (0): Cavalinho, Rainbows, sinani206, kushm4sta, Cavalinho, ExO_, Cavalinho, sinani206, Tehpoofter, Palmar
ObviousOne (0): Cavalinho, Koshi, Rainbows
Koshi (0): ObviousOne, HaruRH, Rainbows, Palmar
HaruRH (1): Rainbows, kushm4sta, kushm4sta, Palmar, mderg
Cavalinho (6): kushm4sta, kushm4sta, Koshi, ObviousOne, HaruRH, Rainbows, sinani206, Koshi, Vivax, Koshi
ExO_ (0): kushm4sta, mderg, Vivax
mderg (0): Vivax


Not voting: Nobody!



sinani206 has been lynched with 6 votes!

Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you!



his last minute change to cav was not shown, but his flippy floppy votes are very scummy. He have repeatedly mention that he don't want to lynch cav :
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 29 2014 05:24 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 05:23 Vivax wrote:
On June 29 2014 05:22 HaruRH wrote:
He definitely won't survive past d1/n1 LOL

If people still want to lynch him -> dead
If he survive -> scum shoot him -> dead

RIP cava.


Yeah but would you lynch him today? I wouldn't.

He definitely should not be lynched

On June 29 2014 05:41 mderg wrote:
With Cav´s claim there´s no way we should lynch him now.
I also don´t want to lynch sinani because I don´t think scum would actually react to the Robik fakeslip like he did. Still a better lynch than cav but I would rather lynch haru right now.

On June 29 2014 05:59 mderg wrote:
Ok, between cav and sinani I´d rather lynch sinani

##unvote
##vote sinani


However, at the last minute, because apparently he saw exo's vote, he changed to cav. This is definitely scummy because it helps him look less scummy from being involved in a town lynch. Exo would look scummy for hopping in last minute, but mderg would look less. Also, he probably suspect cav as a real cop and thus wanted to lynch him (scum motive) if that was true. He could easily use the excuse of exo shifting votes to show that he was only reacting.

I am sure there is a scum between cav and mderg. If cav flips blue (or green), mderg would be the biggest suspect for trying to lynch him despite crying out to town to not lynch him. On the other hand, if cav flips red, mderg is town because no scum would last minute change their vote to lynch their own scumbuddy. He could as easily remained on sinani lynch and save cav for a day. (actually, this might be what he did for posting during the time limit? <- WIFOM)

I don´t get your reasoning. Let´s take a look at the different possible scenarios here.
1)my last vote switch counting and cav being cop: I would look scummy as fuck for last minute switching to the cop, like the scummiest player in the game.
2)my last vote switch counting and cav being scum: I would look super awesome for saving town from the mislynch and making the deciding vote on a scum.
3)my last vote switch not counting and sinani being scum: I would look extremely bad for attempting to switch at the last second
4)my last vote switch not counting and sinani being town: I don´t really look good but also not really bad for it

summary: The last minute switch can only make me look good, if cav is scum. If he is town, I look bad. So why would I ever do this as scum? There would be no actual benefit for it.
So the most logical explanation is that I am town and thought cav was scum/ was scared of Exo deciding the lynch

I think you are making up reasons to make me look bad here. Your reasoning is wrong and if you had actually tried to find the mafia mindset behind my play, you would have seen that it just doesn´t make sense. I can´t imagine a townie drawing these conclusions.

##vote haru
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 30 2014 14:36 GMT
#1198
On June 30 2014 22:26 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 00:44 HaruRH wrote:
Mderg's vote analysis

On June 29 2014 06:03 Holyflare wrote:
Vote Count - Day 1:


Palmar (0): Vivax, sinani206
Vivax (0): Palmar
sinani206 (6): mderg, HaruRH, IAmRobik, Cavalinho, Cavalinho, HaruRH, Tehpoofter, Cavalinho, Palmar, Koshi, HaruRH, Koshi, mderg, ExO_
Tehpoofter (0): kushm4sta, Koshi
kushm4sta (0): IAmRobik, Koshi, Cavalinho
IAmRobik (0): Cavalinho, Rainbows, sinani206, kushm4sta, Cavalinho, ExO_, Cavalinho, sinani206, Tehpoofter, Palmar
ObviousOne (0): Cavalinho, Koshi, Rainbows
Koshi (0): ObviousOne, HaruRH, Rainbows, Palmar
HaruRH (1): Rainbows, kushm4sta, kushm4sta, Palmar, mderg
Cavalinho (6): kushm4sta, kushm4sta, Koshi, ObviousOne, HaruRH, Rainbows, sinani206, Koshi, Vivax, Koshi
ExO_ (0): kushm4sta, mderg, Vivax
mderg (0): Vivax


Not voting: Nobody!



sinani206 has been lynched with 6 votes!

Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you!



his last minute change to cav was not shown, but his flippy floppy votes are very scummy. He have repeatedly mention that he don't want to lynch cav :
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 29 2014 05:24 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 05:23 Vivax wrote:
On June 29 2014 05:22 HaruRH wrote:
He definitely won't survive past d1/n1 LOL

If people still want to lynch him -> dead
If he survive -> scum shoot him -> dead

RIP cava.


Yeah but would you lynch him today? I wouldn't.

He definitely should not be lynched

On June 29 2014 05:41 mderg wrote:
With Cav´s claim there´s no way we should lynch him now.
I also don´t want to lynch sinani because I don´t think scum would actually react to the Robik fakeslip like he did. Still a better lynch than cav but I would rather lynch haru right now.

On June 29 2014 05:59 mderg wrote:
Ok, between cav and sinani I´d rather lynch sinani

##unvote
##vote sinani


However, at the last minute, because apparently he saw exo's vote, he changed to cav. This is definitely scummy because it helps him look less scummy from being involved in a town lynch. Exo would look scummy for hopping in last minute, but mderg would look less. Also, he probably suspect cav as a real cop and thus wanted to lynch him (scum motive) if that was true. He could easily use the excuse of exo shifting votes to show that he was only reacting.

I am sure there is a scum between cav and mderg. If cav flips blue (or green), mderg would be the biggest suspect for trying to lynch him despite crying out to town to not lynch him. On the other hand, if cav flips red, mderg is town because no scum would last minute change their vote to lynch their own scumbuddy. He could as easily remained on sinani lynch and save cav for a day. (actually, this might be what he did for posting during the time limit? <- WIFOM)

I don´t get your reasoning. Let´s take a look at the different possible scenarios here.
1)my last vote switch counting and cav being cop: I would look scummy as fuck for last minute switching to the cop, like the scummiest player in the game.
2)my last vote switch counting and cav being scum: I would look super awesome for saving town from the mislynch and making the deciding vote on a scum.
3)my last vote switch not counting and sinani being scum: I would look extremely bad for attempting to switch at the last second
4)my last vote switch not counting and sinani being town: I don´t really look good but also not really bad for it

summary: The last minute switch can only make me look good, if cav is scum. If he is town, I look bad. So why would I ever do this as scum? There would be no actual benefit for it.
So the most logical explanation is that I am town and thought cav was scum/ was scared of Exo deciding the lynch

I think you are making up reasons to make me look bad here. Your reasoning is wrong and if you had actually tried to find the mafia mindset behind my play, you would have seen that it just doesn´t make sense. I can´t imagine a townie drawing these conclusions.

##vote haru


Guys we don't need to play mafia anymore, lets just logically conclude ourselves as town.

I also simply can't see how a town could come up with these conclusions about their own play. Easy. Because you can use it as an argument (it won't make me look good so why do you think I'm doing it).

These votes on me are so scum driven that I have nothing to say.

To anyone who assumes things like 'Lol haru setting up double lynch etc', that's another flawed argument. Either cav and/or mderg is scum, so I'll put them both as scum. That is MY scumread. But hey, looks like poofter, kush and mderg really pushes on false agendas and small misintepretations.

also, cav setting it up as a 'scum bait' for his claim is hilarious.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
June 30 2014 14:43 GMT
#1199
##vote haru
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
June 30 2014 15:38 GMT
#1200
Hey mderg, why are you like constantly on the fence with Robik? You call out multiple things that he's done and which are in your opinion bad, but I never see you trying to turn all of that into a read or going after him for it.

Vivax´s analysis of the situation changed my opinion. Others also said that they thought it was an actual scumslip, so I figured that I probably was wrong about that.
The trap seems to have caught some townies, sinani would not have been lynched without this and kush who is most likely vig also thought Robik slipped. So from what we know at least 2 townies fell for the trap and we didn´t catch any scum with this.

Accomplishments of Robik´s shenanigans so far:
mislynching sinani
calling us all idiots
figuring out that kush shot Palmar and calling it stupid (would probably have happened without the fakeclaim)

His shenanigans definitely didn´t help town so far.


You write all of this stuff about Robik, I didn't see you change your mind about Cava being scum, and yet your vote now ends up on Haru.
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