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Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
July 09 2014 02:50 GMT
#2581
RIP in peace OO. Hf with 72 virgins or w e.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
July 09 2014 04:25 GMT
#2582
Vote: Rainbows

On July 09 2014 08:47 Rainbows wrote:
##Vote: ExO

I'd rather lose to scum Vivax than scum ExO. If I yolo lynch Vivax and I'm wrong, I don't think I'll live down the observer QT afterparty, who will no doubt have a field day with my ass. There are a few things that give me pause in Vivax's filter, but hopefully they are just explained by him being a cautious townie rather than scum. If he bussed cav day 1 that's a boss play. He's interacted with flipped scum as much as I have, which looks pretty good for him.

ExO if you're town I'm sorry. Most of the evidence points in that direction. Voted Sinani over Cav day 1, and haven't wanted to lynch both flipped scum at all. Energy level day 3 was approx. over 9000 at day 3 mylo with no flipped scum when the wagon was on haru, but as we lynched tehpoofter and cav the energy level depressed when it should have been a chance to reevaluate reads and admit you were wrong at some point. Either you're mafia or Vivax / cav / poofter made it look really good by pseudo-bussing vivax day 3 and hoping on your back. Also your read on me has made no sense over the course of the game I think. First I was scum for not wanting to lynch Vivax / Haru and instead lynch into poofter, then I wasn't scum, now I'm probably scum when chosen between vivax and myself.

If ExO is scum then I'm taking full postgame cred for my night 2 post which had all 3 scum in it going into mylo, and I am this games townhero.

If Vivax is scum then Koshi get's 100% postgame cred for nailing cav/poofter before he died n1, and keeping vivax in the neutral zone, while having me and exo as town.

Koshi should get cred regardless for the cav/poofter thing so koshi is townhero #2 if exo scum.


Most of what you say is true whether or not I flip scum. Koshi's stuff is accurate. My reads on your going back and forth (much like my line of thought). The following of my wrong conviction on day 3. And If you are a town we are both going to lose, having a mafia choose between us. Right now, Vivax's posting makes him seem more town to me, but he could just be a really good scum player.

I know you want your read on night 2 to have all 3 scum in it, thus making you some kind of great player. But it's confirmation bias. I made a lot of bad plays this game, but I was the first to lead on my ideas and was really hesitant on the ideas of others.

My entire game was influenced by day 1, and the fact that Cav almost got lynched, and this means 1 mafia was voting for cav. It skewed my entire thinking, because it's hella sloppy for mafia to nearly let cav die like that. That's what's fucked up my entire thinking for this whole game.

Please if you are a townie, prove it to me. Right now it looks to me like you posted a bunch of things that are going to be inherently true sprinkled with a bit of ego (Oh look how right I was night 2!), so it looks to me like you are mafia trying to convince Vivax to just go with the flow. But if you are the town, I implore you to reconsider your vote. You will lose the game. If you're the town you're going to say at the end, "but I had no way of knowing!" but I'm telling you right now if you're the town you're going to cost us the game by not thinking it through.

If Vivax is the townie (where I'm leaning at this point), then I hope you can convince me you're the town and Vivax is trying to gloat in some way over what he's perceives as a won game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 09 2014 11:31 GMT
#2583
day is 48 hours still
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-09 11:39:07
July 09 2014 11:36 GMT
#2584
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-09 11:39:30
July 09 2014 11:38 GMT
#2585
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
July 09 2014 12:33 GMT
#2586
HF there are literally just 3 of us left, do we have to wait a full 48 hours xD
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22191 Posts
July 09 2014 15:34 GMT
#2587
##Vote: Rainbows
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
July 09 2014 20:10 GMT
#2588
Vivax doing nothing but voting, xD how do I interpret that
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 09 2014 22:38 GMT
#2589
why are holland matches so tense. If this game is anything to go by then argentina should win?
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-09 23:57:02
July 09 2014 23:53 GMT
#2590
So rainbows votes EXO_, while EXO_ & Vivax vote Rainbows

So

Atm, rainbows will be lynched

If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 10 2014 01:15 GMT
#2591
modkills can still happen
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
July 10 2014 10:13 GMT
#2592
there's 3 people left in this game, what are we supposed to be discussing lol? there's a limit to how active we can be with 3 players left in the final vote and having to wait 48 hours
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22191 Posts
July 10 2014 12:42 GMT
#2593
On July 10 2014 19:13 ExO_ wrote:
there's 3 people left in this game, what are we supposed to be discussing lol? there's a limit to how active we can be with 3 players left in the final vote and having to wait 48 hours


You could discuss my vote, you've openly expressed that you're puzzled about it.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
July 10 2014 13:22 GMT
#2594
just that you're not saying anything with it. Didn't you think it was me yesterday?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22191 Posts
July 10 2014 13:43 GMT
#2595
On July 10 2014 22:22 ExO_ wrote:
just that you're not saying anything with it. Didn't you think it was me yesterday?


Is it you?
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
July 10 2014 13:58 GMT
#2596
No I'm still just Argentina the plain vanilla town.

But I could see a case on me, despite the fact that I think mafia is very lucky to be able to make it (because of day 1 almost losing cav). What convinced you that it's rainbows over me?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22191 Posts
July 10 2014 14:04 GMT
#2597
Read this and tell me what you think:

On June 29 2014 22:44 Rainbows wrote:
Working so much today, so I better dump this while I can.

The Cav Situation


If Cav is actually the cop, then his role is useless to us. Mafia almost always have a roleblocker, and any checks from him will certainly be wasted if he survives onward. I think he's a good vigilante shot for this reason. Votes were tied 6-6, if Cav is mafia the game may be solved right there based on vote analysis. If he flips Cop, then we know the wagon was both on town. I'd rather get him vigg'd and out of the way right here and now. And a lynch is not a terrible option either unless he considerably steps up his game and is shining townie out of his butthole.

Haru and Tehpoofter


I know they're playing in a different game right now. For Haru, I'm going to excuse the activity until day 2, where I expect results from him. In fact, Haru, I REALLY want your opinion on the fake cop claim, like talk to me about it and where you're coming from on the situation. I think you might be able to shine a better light on it than anyone else. Banks is also playing in another game, and he seemed kinda-sort-townie catching up in the thread. However, I can't remember anything he's done this game except be at odds with Robik which doesn't tell me anything. I grouped Haru and TP together because they both have an excuse for not being here as much (that I can see, tangibly) and I want to get a better read on them tomorrow. Haru promised reads. Banks needs to do the same.

ExO

One liners entirely in the filter. The only post I can remember clearly is this:

Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 06:29 ExO_ wrote:
I keep up with the thread, in particular the voting. I don't really have a good reason on anybody, but between sinani and cav, I'd choose cav, and did. Perhaps itll come back to bite me and will hurt town :/

Oh well I'm imperfect. I'm just plan old Argentina, a Vanilla town. Lynch me tomorrow if you wish.


Like, I really don't even know how to respond to this post. Mafia -- too risky to make this move? But why even do it as a townie, WHY MARTYR AT THIS STAGE. I can go with the "too blatantly anti-town to be anti-town" analysis or I can go with the "mafia pretending to be distraught townie" analysis. He also voted Sinani for no reason, and someone brought up a good point about how he knew who to lynch without ever posting near the deadline at all (active lurking). Either way, ExO is a toss up unless Cav flips mafia, in which case ExO is probably also mafia. Wouldn't contest to a vigi shot here either. Might even lynch him.


ObviousOne

I pressured ObviousOne day 1, and I actually liked his response about how he wanted to play the game and how people calling him mafia were interrupting with his playstyle. I can understand that, you just want to get your reads out there. People calling you mafia (when you're the only confirmed town you have) is annoying as shit.

But then I ask his for his read on Koshi, because he was sure he was the lynch earlier.

Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 04:07 ObviousOne wrote:
On June 29 2014 04:01 Rainbows wrote:
So OO how do you feel about Koshi now? You were sire that was the lynch.

I was pretty pissed because his read was horseshit but after time has passed I saw how 1) he didn't keep pushing me when he could have since I wasn't in the thread for like half of the day 2) agree with his scum read on cav 3) cav keeps doing the thing I associate with mafia / guilt for not being in the thread by excusing himself for future participation instead of just going with it like nothing is wrong with the fact that he can't be around 4) back to koshi, im happy he stopped with the derpy play that haunts my memory from many games ago or at least doesn't keep it up forever ["my minions" whatever game that was pissed me off i was sure he was mafia there and that kind of stays with me]


He talks more about Cav than he does Koshi, which I find odd. He does think Koshi is more townie (I guess?) because he didn't keep pushing OO and stopped the derpy play. He asserts his supposed townread on Koshi here:

Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 04:24 ObviousOne wrote:
kushm4sta vs. Koshi

Round 1

FIGHT!

Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 04:25 ObviousOne wrote:
actually don't i think both of you are town that would be stupid for me to encourage plz no fighterino


But, apparently OO wants to vig his newly-aquired townread:

Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 06:12 ObviousOne wrote:
So if there's a vigi, please shoot Koshi.


I don't really understand the mindset. Does he go from 100% Koshi scum, to Koshi is town, to VIG Koshi, in a townie head? Don't think so. I would probably lynch him tomorrow, he's giving me the odd feels.

Robik

Bad lynch for tomorrow. He is probably town for the ALL CAPS OMFG LYNCH THIS ASSHOLE stuff. No reason to lynch tmrw imo.

Kush

Has begun to show signs of minor scum. Will elaborate if they continue, but he actually seems town this game in comparison to last. No lyncherino tmrw.

Mderg

Probably scum for flipping his read on the Robik situation, Vivax gave a decent analysis somewhere. His EoD voting shenanigans are weird. He did the whole "shouldn't lynch the blueclaim, but I don't want to lynch the other wagon either" gambit.

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On June 29 2014 05:41 mderg wrote:
With Cav´s claim there´s no way we should lynch him now.
I also don´t want to lynch sinani because I don´t think scum would actually react to the Robik fakeslip like he did. Still a better lynch than cav but I would rather lynch haru right now.


If Cav is town hero cop than Mderg is likely scum trying to distance himself from the lynch. Sinani or Cav was getting lynched 100%, trying to start a new wagon was futile. But, at the end of the day, town can't blame Mderg for voting where he did because he never really wanted to to begin with, but was forced. I've seen scum do this before---see two town wagons, exclaim you don't like either of them, and vote someone else. It's a familiar gambit and I wouldn't put it past anyone. Would lynch atm.

Palmar

Palmar also wasted his vote yesterday. Been extraordinarily inactive for Palmar. Voted Koshi for no reasons given. Built himself as the 'super confirmed-town hero' at the beginning of Day 1 with a spurt of activity and a case, but has sadly been riding off the town cred gained from there. Probably also not a good lynch for tomorrow, because there are a few others before him. If he's town he'll be able to show it, I hope.

Vivax

I find myself agreeing with his reads a lot, which for me indicates town. I liked his fake shot onto Mderg and the way he feels about Palmar (though, I think some of the Palmar read stems from OMGUS). Probably town because of activity, the way he's handled pressure on him, and his reads which I agree with.

Koshi

I went from KOSHI EVUL SCUM early onto maybe townie koshi to now i'm not even sure. I don't want to lynch him tomorrow over some others, and that's all I really know. I don't even want to look at him right now. I'll put the probably town sticker over his name and all it a day.

sooo Ima go with lynch / vig into Cav / Mderg / Exo / OO. Also wary of Palmar, but no lynch tmrw. Be wary of Haru and TP tomorrow -- if they don't show or participate well, kill them imo.

Vivax better be town, if I die he's your leader imo. Trust him, probably robik, and I wouldn't discount kush / koshi as also town.


On June 30 2014 09:03 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 09:01 Rainbows wrote:
On June 30 2014 08:59 Cavalinho wrote:
On June 30 2014 08:53 ExO_ wrote:
Forget Cavalinho, Robik is all over the place. Silly fake claims, says palmar is town and he shot him. Just generally trying to look like somebody fucking around. Only I think that's exactly it. He's trying to look like he's a townie messing around. He's scum in town's clothing...or more like scum dressed like a town trying to dress like fake scum.

Whatever it is, he's cross dressing up a storm.

##Lynch Robik


Possibly. His play isn't entirely congruent, so there could be something here.

We aren't lynching Robik today though. The people on the sinani wagon should be like confirmed town to you right now. Focus on the people on my wagon.


Why?


kushm4sta, ObviousOne, HaruRH, Vivax

This is a fucking retarded list to lynch into. Everyone I didn't list is either confirmed town or myself. And kush is probably the vigi.

Nope.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22191 Posts
July 10 2014 14:05 GMT
#2598
I'm surprised rainbows didn't post yet.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
July 10 2014 14:40 GMT
#2599
Well looking at the post from the perspective that Rainbows is mafia:

It's odd to me that he'd encourage Vigging Cav...The only one that make sense is if they new vigi was only 1 shot, or if they knew Kush was vig...and as it turns out Kush claimed the vig kill on palmar night 1...So I guess its plausible that he encourages the vigging of cav and during the night cav just roleblocks kush.

Says Kush is showing signs of scum, which again if mafia knows he's vig (but aren't aware of only single-shot) then that's probably a good direction to push.

Sets up a situation to push me as mafia if cav flips mafia, but overall my day 1 play was horrible so I could see him making that argument as town or mafia.


I don't know what conclusions to draw off the 2nd quote though. "kushm4sta, ObviousOne, HaruRH, Vivax is a terrible list to lynch in to.." but I can't see as mafia how that's really helping him too much, as those are all confirmed townies. I know mafia like to call townies town, but what incentive does he have to say don't lynch these 4 townies, it just increases chance we'll lynch one of the mafia right?
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
July 10 2014 14:41 GMT
#2600
Oh god typos.

*The only way that makes sense is if they knew vigi was only 1 shot
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