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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 18:57 GMT
#1006
YKZ, I skimmed through your filter very fast but couldn't find what I was looking for.

What do you think about Release? You mention him and talk with him alot. You seem to disagree with alot of his opinions. Do you think he is scum or just bad?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 19:23 GMT
#1020
Lewut. Okay.

The reason you think I'm scum is bad. Just sayin'
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 19:25 GMT
#1024
On June 24 2014 04:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Snickers cannot possibly be mafia because mderg delurked to vote for him to save himself when Snickers had taken a lot less heat than mderg until that point. I don't like a Lazermonkey lynch either.

This makes alot of sense actually. Artanis is giving them pr0-reads atm.

Also, host forgive me for posting twice in a short amount of time :D.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 19:26 GMT
#1025
On June 24 2014 04:24 slOosh wrote:
Lazer, in 1 sentence, why am I scum?

Short version:

Pushed all the wrong wagons, defended mderg for quite unclear reasons.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 19:28 GMT
#1027
Classic Koshi-style.

Only unlurks to defend himself. Gentlemen, shall we?

##Unvote
##Vote: Koshi
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 19:34 GMT
#1034
On June 24 2014 04:26 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 04:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
I could lynch Koshi too. slOosh what say you about a Koshi lynch? Release? Is anyone that isn't a part of BH's Wrong Of The Month Club OPPOSED to a Koshi lynch?

I'm opposed because his read on Lazer's D2 apathy was spot on. I am planning on dialoguing with Lazermonkey right now to see what's going on here.


I'm just saying this in case you and everyone else don't bother to check my filter accordingly: I did say that I was going to be very busy for 2-3 days before I was busy.

I'm not denying that my activity was poor as fuck during D2, I'm not denying that my reads were poor. I do know that I could've faked it all if I was scum. Try to keep what I said in mind before you vote me ONLY for sucking on D2 though. Feel free to vote me for other reasons though.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 19:41 GMT
#1041
On June 24 2014 04:28 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 04:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:24 slOosh wrote:
Lazer, in 1 sentence, why am I scum?

Short version:

Pushed all the wrong wagons, defended mderg for quite unclear reasons.

Could you sum up the case on mderg D1 in one sentence?

I didn't vote mderg D1 so yhea...

Anyway, some form of mix of bad, wishy-washy reads, lurking and unlurking at the wrong moments.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 19:50 GMT
#1049
On June 24 2014 04:36 slOosh wrote:
I don't like how Lazer keeps ditching whatever to get at Koshi.

He says I'm scum for being on the wrong wagon twice, but doesn't seem to consider that Koshi was on the correct wagon D2 the whole time.

All in all, lynching Lazermonkey > Koshi.

Thank you for your considerations.

Look at all the pushing Koshi did on mderg D2... Owait.

Koshi didn't do shit to get mderg lynched and went away about 3 hours before lynch. At that point mderg wasn't the leading candidate at all. Once he get back it was only 17 minutes left untill lynch. Changing his vote at that point would have looked increadibly bad.

I do consider the fact he was on mderg. It makes him look a little bit better. Like I explained, however, it is very easy to explain his actions from scum PoV.

Also the Koshi wagon is way different then your wagon. Comparing them is pretty shit.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 19:52 GMT
#1052
On June 24 2014 04:44 Snickers wrote:
Lol lazer lying he voted mderg day one.

also ve is burying himself so I am not switching vote.

Also koshi is either the worst town in this game or best scum player. If u do not understand why, look at my posts about principles or I'll explain when I have time aka after lynch.

I did midday but then changed my vote. I thought it was pretty obvious that that was what I meant...
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 19:58 GMT
#1054
On June 24 2014 04:44 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 04:41 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:28 slOosh wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 24 2014 04:24 slOosh wrote:
Lazer, in 1 sentence, why am I scum?

Short version:

Pushed all the wrong wagons, defended mderg for quite unclear reasons.

Could you sum up the case on mderg D1 in one sentence?

I didn't vote mderg D1 so yhea...

Anyway, some form of mix of bad, wishy-washy reads, lurking and unlurking at the wrong moments.

Right, and how to you defend against that? You don't. It looks bad and that's that. I thought other things in his filter looked good so I defended him. So did Artanis. VE called me out for not addressing it, I offered a dialogue on specific points of interest. No one took me up on it.

I was wrong on mderg. How does that make me scum?

I was also wrong on mderg, I defended him both D1 and D2. This makes me look scummy. If you don't think that defending scum and voting town over scum makes you look scummy then I don't know what does.

It makes me look scummy.
It makes Artanis look scummy.
It makes you look scummy.

Difference is, Artanis play overall makes me think he is town. I know I am town because of my PM. Your overall play leads me to believe that you are scum. The fact that voted town over scum is a part of that read for sure but not all of it.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 20:56 GMT
#1086
Okay, I was on the fence of thinking that VE was town. Not there anymore though.

Since the moment that VE got under the spotlight he completely stopped giving out reads on any other players but BH (and obviously me. I am the number 1 counterwagon though so no real shocker here). He is spending all his time mocking with BH, telling how much he wants to lynch him or how sad he will be when he gets lynched. This is not what a townie does in this situation... This is what scum does in order to not give out any information.

Still willing to lynch Koshi though. Not sure who I'd rather kill at the moment.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 21:04 GMT
#1091
Release, I answered all your points. You obviosuly don't agree since you still think I'm scum. But can you be more precise with why you don't agree with that response?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 21:15 GMT
#1096
On June 24 2014 05:15 Koshi wrote:
SNIP

How hard can this be. There are still 5 people in the running for scum. BH/Release/Artanis look town. Or shot not be considered for the mderg lynch today. Artanis is a little fucker but who cares.
Snickers/VE/Lazermonkey/Chezinu/SloOsh are left.

Snickers can be excused due to mderg filter. Very unlikely that he is scum with mderg. Not a good lynch.
Chezinu is Chezinu and was on mderg. I guess we have a doc and not a cop so that's unfortunate but even then I wouldn't lynch Chezinu because he isn't harmful to town in any way. He isn't pushing an agenda he is just being around.

VE is away on the wrong moments, pushes scum but then doesn't vote scum, can't be tied to anybody in case he flips scum because his reads are all neutral, and is currently just showing activity.
Lazermonkey is just trying to get me lynched. Even when his top scumreads were SloOsh and VE he was pushing me the hardest. Look at D2, he just came in to push me while IGNORING the mderg/BH wagons. I am pretty sure that scumtactics were to get BH lynched (who was main candidate back then) and then myself.
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 22:56 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 20 2014 19:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BH, I'm not a newbie player. I know that similarities does not necessarily mean the same alignment, but previous games can give you insights into their mind. Particularly a scum qt can be enlightening. It told me mderg is someone that thinks before he posts as scum, which is a point against him being scum this game.

I'm not up for a mderg lynch at this point in time. I am up for a Koshi lynch though.
##Unvote
##Vote Koshi
This is also a good point brought up. Everyone that is voting mderg should explain why they vote him very very clearly and why the reason you vote him makes him scum. Explain how that action isn't likely to have come out of a newbie town player also.

Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 06:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Please look at Koshi's filter and look ät all thé scum hunting he has done... Owait.

Vote him.

Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 07:08 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 21 2014 06:04 YouKnowZhou wrote:
On June 21 2014 06:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Please look at Koshi's filter and look ät all thé scum hunting he has done... Owait.

Vote him.


As a matter of policy, I do not lynch players right after they replace in. I leave them alone for a full cycle. I find this typically works pretty well; people need time to get their shit together usually.

Its been a full cycle now. Not even kidding.

All these posts indicate that Lazermonkey is actually following the thread. Nowhere it looks like he is lagging behind so he can't give an opinion on Mderg/BH. Clearly it was a choice from Lazermonkey to not comment on it. Why not? Because BH was going to get lynched and Lazermonkey was setting up the next misslynch. That's why. There is enough time between these posts to catch up with the thread. Are you going to believe he just came in once an hour and just looked at my filter and pushes me? Why wouldn't scum be superlazy on D2 with BH playing suicidal?

SNIP

Yhea, I can't bear this incredible bias. I mean, if you assume I am scum then this sure makes alot of sense. But what if I just was busy? How are these three posts indicative of me being active and reading the thread? I did read your filter, yes, but thats like the only filter I read.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 21:18 GMT
#1097
Artanis and Release, you are spending far to much effort on associations between unflipped players.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 21:28 GMT
#1100
On June 24 2014 06:23 Snickers wrote:
I thought my reads we're bad a he he.

Artanis did u completely forget about day one lol.
So far in this game my reads are better than your reads.

Like seriously go through koshi filter and explain why scum would play that.

And all jokes aside. Does Lazermonkey really think he did not vote mderg day one. A little lost with my quick reading .

LOL. I really didn't remember that. Well this makes me look much better, doesn't it? : D
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 21:33 GMT
#1101
Snickers, I skimmed through your filter and I still don't understand it. Why do you think Koshi is so town? Is it because he is to scummy to be scum?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 21:50 GMT
#1102
Why did the thread suddenly die? I quite dislike the thought of me dying ; (
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 21:54 GMT
#1107
Sure Koshi, are you cool with killing VE instead? You seemed to have a couple of arguments that would imply that he is scum. Also look at my filter. Or YKZ filter for that matter.

But yhea. What do you think about that VE hasn't said shit since he was about to get lynched? And by not saying shit I mean that he hasn't taken any stance what so ever. Just defending himself, saying that YKZ is scum and that I am scum.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 21:55 GMT
#1110
On June 24 2014 06:52 Snickers wrote:
How the heck am I the one one to comment on that and how the heck does ve forgot his first day post. On he was not strong on it then. Wow Lazermonkey is making the choice a lot harder for me. If ve and lazer monkey are scum, lazer monkey trying to stop us from consolidating.

I am sorry, I may be stupid but I really don't get what you mean. Can you please explain this to me like if I was 5 years old?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 21:57 GMT
#1112
On June 24 2014 06:54 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 06:50 Lazermonkey wrote:
Why did the thread suddenly die? I quite dislike the thought of me dying ; (

Then why don't you save yourself and kills VE?

You have the power to vote.

Or you can keep VE alive and die in his place, so that VE and me can die tonight together to fullfill the prophecy! Best ending EVER!!!!

I can vote VE but since he was first at 4 votes it doesn't make much of a diference. Why do you think I am scum? Also why am I a BETTER target than say VE or Koshi.
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