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On June 21 2014 06:04 YouKnowZhou wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 06:02 Lazermonkey wrote: Please look at Koshi's filter and look ät all thé scum hunting he has done... Owait.
Vote him. As a matter of policy, I do not lynch players right after they replace in. I leave them alone for a full cycle. I find this typically works pretty well; people need time to get their shit together usually. Its been a full cycle now. Not even kidding.
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On June 21 2014 06:21 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 06:12 VisceraEyes wrote: I think mderg is mafia too. But like I said before, I like the people on BH better than the people on mderg for town, so I'm voting with whom I perceive to be town. That's where I'm at, and that's why I'm voting for you. You don't think I am town VE? I am hurt. tbh atm I could also lynch Lazermonkey. He keeps complaining on D2 about me but he hasn't done anything himself this day. He just keeps focusing on me and VE and ignores Mderg/BH. While Mderg was his main scumread for the entire D1. I mean, I'm not denying that I've done nothing this cycle. I've been very busy and still am. But you keep promising that you Will stop do nothing. Yet you do nothing. Also why does me complaining make me scum? I mean, you've had 72 hours to convince me of your innocence. You have done nothing .
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Between VE and Snickers the choice easy.
##Unvote ##Vote: VE
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I Mderg is probably a crappy lynch. But there are still too few voters on YKZ... w/e.
##Unvote ##Vote: YKZ
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Okay, I obviously look like shit now But w/e.
See you tomorrow.
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I will try to explain my actions yesterday as best as I can in this post. But it will hopefully be the only time I talk about the subject. I'm not under direct threat to get lynched as it seems and I'd rather spend my time trying to find scum.
I have been busy, more busy than I thought I was going to be. I didn't have time to analyze the players in the game good enough and went into stubborn-tunnel-townie-mode. As a result, my read on Mderg was wrong and it is a fair assumption that alot of my other reads are completely wrong also. I will therefore try to spend alot of time to figure shit out. Sadly, I still don't have much time today but both tomorrow and the day after that I will have lots of time to spare.
In summary: I sucked yesterday but tomorrow I will try not to suck.
@Koshi
I did consolidate D2. I did it far to late though but at the time of my second last post before lynch, it weren't obvious that the lynch would be between YKZ and mderg. Even if you don't believe me, how does me not consolidating make me scum...? If you are town (which you may actually be since I suck) then you are probably just butthurt since I was tunneling you so hard.
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I hereby declare that I am no longer busy! I will first and foremost try to reread D2 and update all my reads.
On June 21 2014 21:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Lazer, can you explain us how your read on YKZ and mderg evolved and why you voted for YKZ at the end? My reads didn't really evolve much during the day, sadly. Because I was so stubborn and lacked time I kinda kept my reads exactly the same as they were N1. I explained during N1 that I was slightly suspicious of YKZ and that I was uncertain on mdergs alignment at the time but I was leaning town on him. This is obviously a very satisfying answer but thats why I voted mderg over YKZ.
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On June 22 2014 23:31 Koshi wrote: Then why did you keep pushing the idea in the thread that I am scum? I don't get why you are asking? I have already answered this question. You may not be satisfied with my answer but that is another story.
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Koshi, are you still there?
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On June 23 2014 00:46 Koshi wrote: Yes. Belgium playing soon so let's all cheer together. Nobody likes Russians anyway. Okay, lets consider some facts.
You are obviously active since you answered both of my posts within 5 minutes.
I am your biggest scum read.
Alot of people (read: not a majority) don't want to kill me.
If I were in your shoes (assuming that you are town now), I know what I would've done. I would've pushed the fuck out of that Lazermonkey-basterd. You on the other hand, seem okay with just leaving your vote on me and chilling. Why are you not pushing me? Why not push SlOosh?
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On June 23 2014 01:27 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 00:56 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 23 2014 00:46 Koshi wrote: Yes. Belgium playing soon so let's all cheer together. Nobody likes Russians anyway. Okay, lets consider some facts. You are obviously active since you answered both of my posts within 5 minutes. I am your biggest scum read.Alot of people (read: not a majority) don't want to kill me.If I were in your shoes (assuming that you are town now), I know what I would've done. I would've pushed the fuck out of that Lazermonkey-basterd. You on the other hand, seem okay with just leaving your vote on me and chilling. Why are you not pushing me? Why not push SlOosh? How should I push you? Please tell me how my case on you should look like. Why should I tell you how should get me lynched? I'm not voting myself.
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EBWOP: You also clearly doesn't seem to understand what the word "push" means.
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On June 23 2014 01:35 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 01:29 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 23 2014 01:27 Koshi wrote:On June 23 2014 00:56 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 23 2014 00:46 Koshi wrote: Yes. Belgium playing soon so let's all cheer together. Nobody likes Russians anyway. Okay, lets consider some facts. You are obviously active since you answered both of my posts within 5 minutes. I am your biggest scum read.Alot of people (read: not a majority) don't want to kill me.If I were in your shoes (assuming that you are town now), I know what I would've done. I would've pushed the fuck out of that Lazermonkey-basterd. You on the other hand, seem okay with just leaving your vote on me and chilling. Why are you not pushing me? Why not push SlOosh? How should I push you? Please tell me how my case on you should look like. Why should I tell you how should get me lynched? I'm not voting myself. I am voting you because you did nothing else but talk about me D2 while there was a lot of things happening. I do not understand what you want me to do more. Please explain to me how I am not pushing you enough. I told everybody why I am voting you. How is that reread from D2 going? It seems like you still think I should be pushed over anybody else. You got nothing at all from D2? Or do you have new evidence against me. Let's talk about that. Because from where I am sitting you are still scumreading me for not doing enough. This time not doing enough to push you. It's getting boring. Okay, you clearly don't get the point I'm trying to make so I'll be as clear as I can.
First off, I'm over halfway done with my reread. I don't have you as my top scum read anymore (though I still have some pages left so that is subject to change), although I still think you are suspicious. More about this later though.
Yes, I don't think anyone has missed the point that you are voting me. But I never said anything about that. Even if we pretend that you are town and that BOTH me and SlOosh are scum then you are still useless if you cannot get the rest of the town to vote us. Right now, I'm not getting lynched. Why are "done" with the pushing me? If you wanted me to die, wouldn't you push me and try to get me lynched? Wouldn't you try to convince those who say that I'm probably town that they are wrong, that their arguments are flawed and what not?
Last but not least: you can respond to this all you want but I'm not very interested in discussing this topic with you. I don't think you'll vote yourself. I want everyone else to respond and give their thoughts about you. That's why I write this.
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EBWOP: And for those of you that didn't understand it, guess what alignment that doesn't care about pushing their scum reads as long as they don't get lynched themselves...
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On June 23 2014 03:02 Koshi wrote:Wouldn't I push you harder if my second scumread was my scum teammate? I think this logic is pretty terrible.
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On June 23 2014 03:08 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 03:05 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 23 2014 03:02 Koshi wrote:On June 23 2014 02:59 Lazermonkey wrote: SlOosh Wouldn't I push you harder if my second scumread was my scum teammate? I think this logic is pretty terrible. I agree. Wat.
I honestly don't understand what your trying here. Nevertheless, I am done with you for the moment. If you truly are town then you have better things to do.
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On June 23 2014 03:15 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 03:11 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 23 2014 03:08 Koshi wrote:On June 23 2014 03:05 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 23 2014 03:02 Koshi wrote:On June 23 2014 02:59 Lazermonkey wrote: SlOosh Wouldn't I push you harder if my second scumread was my scum teammate? I think this logic is pretty terrible. I agree. Wat. I honestly don't understand what your trying here. Nevertheless, I am done with you for the moment. If you truly are town then you have better things to do. 1 more Question. Why is VE not mafia? I never said VE wasn't mafia.
If you think that because I said both you and SlOosh were scummy, I cannot have any other scum reads then you are wrong. I am fully aware that there are most likely 3 scum in this game. There are varying degrees of scumminiess though.
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Yep, I'm done talking with you for the moment. I said I will deliver and I will. Your questions are not relevant. If you think me saying this is indicative of me being scum then have a fun time getting me lynched!
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So after rereading almost all of D2-D3 I have come to the following conclusions.
YKZ is 110% town. The remaining two scum are found among VE, SlOosh and Koshi. However, while I stated that SlOosh was my top scum a few posts ago I have changed my mind. I still do think SlOosh is suspicious but that has more to do with him pushing ALL the wrong wagons and putting up some quite weak reasoning for not voting mderg. He says that he doesn't like the wagon and he keeps saying that mdergs posts are "consistent" but he never explain what is so consistent with his posts.
Koshi is still a scum read of mine. Not really going to repeat why I think that though, just look at my filter.
My top scum read atm is Ve though. @Artanis and all other non-believers in VEs scumminess: VE sure made a case on mderg D1. But look at his follow-up to that case. Practically non-existant. And look at the vote count at time where VE left the thread:
On June 18 2014 08:03 OnceKing wrote:Vote Count - Day 1: 27ninjabunnies (5): YouKnowZhou, Artanis[Xp], mderg, goodkarma, Chezinu YouKnowZhou (1): Release VisceraEyes (2): Lazermonkey, slOosh mderg (2): Snickers, VisceraEyes Currently Not Voting (2): Koshi, 27ninjabunnies Currently 27ninjabunnies is set to be lynched with 5 votes! Day will end in
Remember: Voting is mandatory. You can find the spreadsheet to the game here.
An mderg lynch is highly unlikely at this point making his vote on mderg not risky at all.
Back to why VE is scum though: First off, we have the fact that VE drops case on mderg and puts a vote on him D1. But doesn't push him. And not only does he not push him. He does not try to defend Bunnies at all despite claiming that Bunnies was "supertown".
Not only that but also keeps mentioning how he has both YKZ and mderg as his top scum reads yet he only keeps pushing YKZ. Convinient, huh?
##Vote: VE
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