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On June 27 2014 08:40 YouKnowZhou wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 08:02 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 27 2014 07:59 YouKnowZhou wrote:On June 27 2014 07:55 Lazermonkey wrote:
And everyone is gone... Well, if it's just you and me, LM, do you have any questions or directions for me? You've seen my read list and you know what I'm thinking about, and I promise to 100% not ignore your input if you flip town. I think the list is good. The only thing is that atm I'm not sure Koshi is the best lynch. Release and SlOosh recent actions make them look really bad. I would probably say that Release is on par with Koshi for best lynch with SlOosh slightly behind. I undertand what you're sayinga bout Release and Sloosh, but look at it this way. Right nwo, this wagon has basically been set in stone all day. Underailable, as it were. Release and sloosh at least are hanging out and chatting. They may wrongly think the two of us are scum, but the fact of the matter is, as scum they wouldn't feel obligated to hang out here and talk with us. It doesn't automatically make them town, but look at Kosh. He clearly is satisfied with this lynch and doesn't even want to try to move the twon forward. He doesn't stand out in your mind as doing bad things because he's not doing anything at all. When you take into account the deafening silence of the Koshi, and the fact that most of his effort is spent defending himself and whining, isn't he the most likely to flip scum?
I mean, I would like to believe that. But he could just be bad town. Like I said, I don't really know Koshi's meta but I really think you should check him. Does he generally play like this, ie super defending and passive? Or is he actually good? Also, while Koshi is lurking SlOosh and Release seems to be trying to contribute but in reality just tunnel. I still think Release is just as scummy as Koshi.
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Also, look at Release's argument. He basically refuses to rethink his read on you (YKZ) based on what happend D1. I mean, maybe he is always like this? But that just really, really bad.
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On June 27 2014 08:45 Snickers wrote:
Ok since you two are so sure that each other are town, Why not be voting release instead of koshi? I do not understand that. I have been here giving Lazer a fair chance I feel and it is seriously annoying when he says I have bad logic. I have been the most logical person in this game. Notice how late I threw my vote on him. Within two hours of deadline. I am almost 100% positive you are both scum since you are voting koshi instead of release. You guys probably thought koshi would be the easier to get followers.
If I was scum I'd suck your dick at this point. I do think your logic is bad but you MUST disregard your feelings now. Think logically instead of emotionally. Even if you think that I'm the biggest douche there ever was, douche=/=scum.
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On June 27 2014 08:46 YouKnowZhou wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2014 08:41 Lazermonkey wrote:
The fact that Release and SlOosh simply did nothing is also telling I'd say. No matter how much scum you think I am, there is still a point in keeping up the work. It seemed like SlOosh even wanted to apear contributing by pushing me when it was obvious I was getting lynched. I said numerous times that I was cool with dying. I was giving out reads and asked them to ask question but SlOosh (and Release) just didn't give a fuck at all. OK, but at least these guys are actively not giving a fuck. Look at it like this. Koshi in the past 24 hours has: asked chez for checks, defended against my case on him, voted you, said he was a vt, asked a question, and that's it. That's all he's done. sloosh and release may be grating on the nerves but at least they're playing the game. Koshi seems less suspicious simply because he's posting less; an excellent strategem
I mean, do whatever you want. You are not the one getting lynched : D.
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Another thing. Look at SlOosh interactions with Bunnies D1. He avoids the issue almost entirely, just saying that Bunnies looks bad right before he votes her. Why would he avoid the number 1 suspect and instead ask non-commital questions? How Release thinks that SlOosh is town based on D1 is fucking amazing.
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On June 27 2014 08:51 Snickers wrote:
You guys have no clue how to think logically if you ask me. After the game, I should post the general idea of a philosophy paper I wrote my senior year in high school. You guys assume way too much. That is almost rule one when it comes to logically thinking. You may be scum so this post is pointless but w/e.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WE DISAGREE WITH EACH OTHER. BUT THAT DOES NOT I REPEAT DOES NOT MAKE US SCUM.
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Okay, Snickers. If i flip town will you promise to do what I said?
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Release: I'd say You/Koshi.
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On June 27 2014 08:55 Snickers wrote:
Seriously dude, you aint funny. The panic is real.
I'm not trying to be funny. I'm trying to win this fucking game. Do you accept that you were wrong and will you do as I say when I flip town?
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On June 27 2014 08:56 Snickers wrote:
Lazer what do you want me to do? And here is my last request. Why are you voting koshi over release?
Both are probably scum. And YKZ wants Koshi more dead than Release.
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On June 27 2014 08:57 Release wrote:
Address sloOsh's ealier comment: why not convincing him of my scumminess instead of vice-versa?
SlOosh is a retard based on his comments. I did my best but it wasn't enough.
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GG town. Snickers you are just really dumb. Please sheep YKZ from now on. There is 0% chance that he is scum.
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On June 27 2014 08:59 Snickers wrote:
Wow lazer calling someone a name when he may be scum that is harsh. You probably are town at this point. Or just too into this game
12 points goes to Snickers!
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GG.
I think town had this one in the bag after N2. Sadly, we threw it hard after that. I do think I played okay this game. My reads were pretty good looking back at the game with the exception of D2. Had I not been so inactive during that time, I strongly doubt that I would've been lynched. So in some sense I have myself to blame for getting lynched.
One interesting aspect of my own play which I may need to evaluate is the fact that I can be quite a dick at times. Being a dick isn't something that really should be alignment indicative though I do think that town are more inclined to be dicks than scum. It does apear to me though that alot of the suspicion against me was based somewhat on the fact that I was a dick. Like, noone ever said "Lazermonkey is a dick therefore he is scum" but it seemed to me that alot of townies were a bit to buthurt to see my actions from an objective standpoint. And I don't really blame them because I know emotion can have a very strong effect on reads even though they shouldn't. Maybe I should try to be less of a dick in the future though. It just might increase my chances of winning.
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Some shoutouts as well:
Bunnies: You didn't deserve to get lynched. You weren't shining town but there were far far scummier players during D1.
YKZ: You played well overall. Without you town would've been completely lost. With that being said, your read on Bunnies was very off. I think you have way to much faith in the Kenpachi rule. Kenpachi rule should be regarded as a slight scum tell and not something you base your entire read around.
Snickers: I appologize for being rude to you. Your reads were actually quite good. But having good reads is just 50% of the game. The other 50% is being able to convince other of your opinions by making apealing arguments.
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